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Hello everyone,
I have got a mountain of questions that arised from reading the forum and a lot of different topics.
I'll have numbers on them, so if you can/want to only answer a few of them you can refer to the number.
1. I've read about this ARB quite a lot, what's the deal with that if I want to go to a custom rom?
2. I understood that it matters where to buy the device in terms of an unlocked bootloader (TradingShenzen seems like a good place to start). But if I can't get my hands on a phone with unlocked bootloader, can I unlock it myself?
3. I'd like to go with the xiaomi.eu rom, any advice on how to get there? What I mean is, should I choose a CN model or is a Global model better, does it matter? What steps to take regarding TWRP and avoiding ARB, etc.
4. What does GSI stand for? I haven't found any thread explaining what that means, and I'm quite new to xiaomi devices (would be my first one).
5. I've also seen that there are quite a few different variants of this device, do the roms for it just work on all of them or do I need to check if the model is supported? (That seems to be a bit different to other phone vendors)
That's it for now, please don't kill me if some of the things have been answered before, I haven't found an answer to the questions so far (the infos that I got so far were insufficient)
Cheers,
Zacki
1 Google introduced ARB, a safeguard to not create an older version of the system from the currently released. If you install the official older version of the system for a new one, you will wall your phone.
Does not apply to Custom ROM
2 You can unblock the bootloader yourself on the official xiaomi website. It takes about 300 hours
3 unlock the bootloader, install recovery, install xiaomi.eu. Global rom is more stable, but xiaomi.eu has more personalization options. Recently, xiaomi.eu does not cause problems on Mi Max3, but it causes problems on other models.
4 GSI https://source.android.com/setup/build/gsi
5 Mi Max3 Global 4gb RAM 64gb internal memory,
Mi Max China 6gb RAM 128gb internal memory
You can install the Global ROM on the china version if you have unlocked the boootloader, and remember about the ARB. Otherwise, you will wall your phone
The Global version is popular.
Bartos81 said:
1 Google introduced ARB, a safeguard to not create an older version of the system from the currently released. If you install the official older version of the system for a new one, you will wall your phone.
Does not apply to Custom ROM
2 You can unblock the bootloader yourself on the official xiaomi website. It takes about 300 hours
3 unlock the bootloader, install recovery, install xiaomi.eu. Global rom is more stable, but xiaomi.eu has more personalization options. Recently, xiaomi.eu does not cause problems on Mi Max3, but it causes problems on other models.
4 GSI https://source.android.com/setup/build/gsi
5 Mi Max3 Global 4gb RAM 64gb internal memory,
Mi Max China 6gb RAM 128gb internal memory
You can install the Global ROM on the china version if you have unlocked the boootloader, and remember about the ARB. Otherwise, you will wall your phone
The Global version is popular.
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Thanks for your reply.
@1. Interesting to see what Google is up to with things like this...why would they want this?
@2. Thanks, but whoa that's quite some time...and I guess I can only trigger the 300h AFTER I bought the phone, right? (Why so many hours actually...?)
@3. I've read about the changes they made to the rom and I like that. But what do you mean with being "less stable" than the global rom? In what way? I'd like to use that as my daily driver if I get it (not the weekly builds of course).
@4. Will have a look, thanks :good:
@5. I was actually looking at the 6GB/128GB version of the phone, if I can convince my wife to allow me to spend ~260€ on a phone (I'm currently a student ).
In this case, I'd already have an unlocked bootloader and if I want to install the rom from xiaomi.eu, there should be no problem, right? Also regarding ARB, this should be fine, right?
And in what ways are the CN and the Global versions different other than the rom? Are there differences for the supported bands or radios? I live in Austria, can I use the CN model here without any downside?
Edit: I'm having a look at this particular model, it would be available with CN firmware or with Global firmware. Would that still account as CN model in this case?
TradingShenzhen - Mi Max 3 - 6gb-ram-128gb-rom-snapdragon-636
Cheers
Google thinks people should use the latest system because it provides better security.
Xiaomi introduced a long wait time to unlock the bootloader, because dishonest sellers offered CN versions outside of China and India by installing the Global system on it. The CN version is only for China and India.
Xiaomi.eu provides its system every week. Contains various patches and additions. Sometimes something does not work, payments, BT paired in the car, notifications etc. In my phone, the last two versions do not work Gmail notifications. In today's version, people write that OK Google is not working.
If you unlock the bootloader, you can install xiaomi.eu. The ARB will be kept at the level of the official system you had.
The CN system contains only Chinese and English. It does not offer Google Play, it also contains full Chinese software.
Version 6/128 is only a CN model. If the seller offers with the Global system, it means that he has unlocked the bootloader and installed the Global system. You naturally lose the Xiaomi warranty.
Bartos81 said:
Google thinks people should use the latest system because it provides better security.
Xiaomi introduced a long wait time to unlock the bootloader, because dishonest sellers offered CN versions outside of China and India by installing the Global system on it. The CN version is only for China and India.
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Ok got that, seems like people are trying everything to make a few bucks extra... Then it would have to be so (waiting).
Bartos81 said:
Xiaomi.eu provides its system every week. Contains various patches and additions. Sometimes something does not work, payments, BT paired in the car, notifications etc. In my phone, the last two versions do not work Gmail notifications. In today's version, people write that OK Google is not working.
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Ok that's not such a big issue, as I said. I'd stay on the "stable" builds, not the weekly ones.
Bartos81 said:
If you unlock the bootloader, you can install xiaomi.eu. The ARB will be kept at the level of the official system you had.
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So the xiaomi.eu roms don't have any of that ARB stuff, good to know. Could I technically install an older version of that custom rom without triggering the ARB or is that not possible? Just so I understand that.
And how is that with other custom roms? I've read in some threads that you have to make sure you have the correct ARB if you want to flash that particular rom, why that?
Bartos81 said:
The CN system contains only Chinese and English. It does not offer Google Play, it also contains full Chinese software.
Version 6/128 is only a CN model. If the seller offers with the Global system, it means that he has unlocked the bootloader and installed the Global system. You naturally lose the Xiaomi warranty.
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I'm not worried about the warranty but more about the specifics of the device. Is the CN model different in any way that it may not work properly with the providers in europe? Or things like that?
And sadly that vendor does not seem to have that version in stock at the moment, so I was thinking of getting the regular CN version of the device, that's why I'm asking
As for xiaomi.eu it does not contain ARB, but there are exceptions. If the phone gets an update to android 9 - xiaomi.eu must use the full original xiaomi firmware from ARB. The next versions on the same adroid no longer have files responsible for ARB.
Current level of ARB = 4 from Oreo to Pie. What you can not do:
to install MIUI9,
to install Miui Global on a CN version phone with a locked bootloader
block in the bootloader if you have Miui Global on your CN
install Miui China on a Global phone and block the bootloader.
Custom GSI roms do not have an ARB, you can install anything.
Mi Max 3 in the CN version in addition to the system and memory does not differ from the specification from Global. Will work in Austria.
Bartos81 said:
As for xiaomi.eu it does not contain ARB, but there are exceptions. If the phone gets an update to android 9 - xiaomi.eu must use the full original xiaomi firmware from ARB. The next versions on the same adroid no longer have files responsible for ARB.
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So if I get the phone with Android 8.1 and I want to get MIUI 10 (Android 9) I need to update with the official rom and then flash the xiaomi.eu rom?
And while we are at that, if I buy the CN variant, do I have to upgrade to PIE with the CN official rom or can I also do this with the Global rom to get ARB to 4?
And what't the deal with the developer versions of the original roms? I've read something about them but would that help me in any way?
Found that website in another thread: Link
Bartos81 said:
Current level of ARB = 4 from Oreo to Pie. What you can not do:
to install MIUI9,
to install Miui Global on a CN version phone with a locked bootloader
block in the bootloader if you have Miui Global on your CN
install Miui China on a Global phone and block the bootloader.
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Ok but once the bootloader is open, why relock it anyway?^^ And I've read that on the xiaomi.eu roms you can not accidentaly relock the bootloader.
Bartos81 said:
Custom GSI roms do not have an ARB, you can install anything.
Mi Max 3 in the CN version in addition to the system and memory does not differ from the specification from Global. Will work in Austria.
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Working in Austria sounds good, but what exactly do you mean with "in addition to system and memory". The system and memory are different in the two versions and the rest is the same? Is there anything I should be aware of while using the phone?
Oh and by the way, thank you for answering all my questions
So if I get the phone with Android 8.1 and I want to get MIUI 10 (Android 9) I need to update with the official rom and then flash the xiaomi.eu rom?
And while we are at that, if I buy the CN variant, do I have to upgrade to PIE with the CN official rom or can I also do this with the Global rom to get ARB to 4?
And what't the deal with the developer versions of the original roms? I've read something about them but would that help me in any way?
Found that website in another thread: Link
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it's not like that. You do not need to update the system. Xiaomi.eu is built with miui china developer extended to additional language translations, optimizations of softu for Europeans and a few additions that occur only in the Chinese version of the miui.
The whole system, firmware and kernel is miui china. If you install xiaomi.eu then you install the entire system, with the firmware and kernel. They are suitable for the android version.
You can have miui global Oreo and install xiaomi.eu Pie. Everything will be updated.
Miui Global is available in Stable and Dev versions. Dev-Beta is a development version released every week, contains the latest security, system fixes and errors detected in the Stable version, as well as new additions that are tested and do not always have to work correctly (like the development version of xiaomi.eu). As developers will correct detected errors, the stable version is created.
I just installed myself Global dev. I like it more than xiaomi.eu. Everything works so far. I usually use Global dev, and xiaomi.eu tests once in a while.
Ok but once the bootloader is open, why relock it anyway?^^ And I've read that on the xiaomi.eu roms you can not accidentaly relock the bootloader.
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Some block the bootloader from ignorance or inadvertently.
When installing a new ROM by MiFlash, you have the following options:
install and block the bootloader (by default selected)
clean everything and install
save data and install
Working in Austria sounds good, but what exactly do you mean with "in addition to system and memory". The system and memory are different in the two versions and the rest is the same? Is there anything I should be aware of while using the phone?
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the parameters of the telephone accessories and the frequency ranges of the network are the same. The difference is 6gb RAM, 128gb Internal memory and MIUI china.
Bartos81 said:
it's not like that. You do not need to update the system. Xiaomi.eu is built with miui china developer extended to additional language translations, optimizations of softu for Europeans and a few additions that occur only in the Chinese version of the miui.
The whole system, firmware and kernel is miui china. If you install xiaomi.eu then you install the entire system, with the firmware and kernel. They are suitable for the android version.
You can have miui global Oreo and install xiaomi.eu Pie. Everything will be updated.
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Ok sounds good, so if I want to go for the xiaomi.eu rom, I can just go ahead an flash that thing and I'm good, that's what I understood. Is that correct?
Bartos81 said:
Miui Global is available in Stable and Dev versions. Dev-Beta is a development version released every week, contains the latest security, system fixes and errors detected in the Stable version, as well as new additions that are tested and do not always have to work correctly (like the development version of xiaomi.eu). As developers will correct detected errors, the stable version is created.
I just installed myself Global dev. I like it more than xiaomi.eu. Everything works so far. I usually use Global dev, and xiaomi.eu tests once in a while..
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Interesting, because I've read somewhere that the normal and the dev version are more or less the same, just that you have to use the dev version in certain situations to "unbrick" because of something with the bootloader (but I don't actually remember the details).
Bartos81 said:
Some block the bootloader from ignorance or inadvertently.
When installing a new ROM by MiFlash, you have the following options:
install and block the bootloader (by default selected)
clean everything and install
save data and install
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I've also read about that tool, is it required to flash roms or can I do that via TWRP? And why would such an option be selected by default...? I've already seen someone brick his device because of that
Bartos81 said:
the parameters of the telephone accessories and the frequency ranges of the network are the same. The difference is 6gb RAM, 128gb Internal memory and MIUI china.
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Ok got that, and the MIUI china doesn't really matter once I'm on the xiaomi.eu rom.
Good, I think I might actually see that I can get the cash together and order the phone Getting excited now.
Any resources I should read before I might do something stupid?
If you have an unlocked bootloader then you install twrp and flash xiaomi.eu
Interesting, because I've read somewhere that the normal and the dev version are more or less the same, just that you have to use the dev version in certain situations to "unbrick" because of something with the bootloader (but I don't actually remember the details).
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Using dev to unlock the bootloader affected old phones. Currently, it does not matter. Rom useful as well as Stable.
I've also read about that tool, is it required to flash roms or can I do that via TWRP? And why would such an option be selected by default...? I've already seen someone brick his device because of that
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Miflash is used to install only official miui Rom, you use the rom .Tgz package
It installs through Miflash with the cleaning option. It does not leave garbage in the old system.
Ok got that, and the MIUI china doesn't really matter once I'm on the xiaomi.eu rom.
Good, I think I might actually see that I can get the cash together and order the phone Getting excited now.
Any resources I should read before I might do something stupid?
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If you have xiaomi.eu then china rom does not matter.
You can look for a seller who offers a phone with downloaded xiaomi.eu or miui global - to choose from
in the past, the sellers offered the china version.
Bartos81 said:
If you have an unlocked bootloader then you install twrp and flash xiaomi.eu
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So last question for now (I hope ), if I decide to get the EU version instead, can I still unlock the bootloader or is that only possible on the CN versions?
you can in any xiaomi
Bartos81 said:
You can unblock the bootloader yourself on the official xiaomi website. It takes about 300 hours
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I've just read in another thread that it is 720 hours that's full 30 days... I hope it's more the 300 hours you said but I fear I might have to wait a full month for that...
Can anyone confirm this number of hours?
Cheers
Usually it is 720 hours, but I checked it every now and then, after 4 days, this time has decreased by half.
It's 100% not decreased or changed it 720 hours. Unless you had a mi account before an unlocked a phone
techdeisel said:
It's 100% not decreased or changed it 720 hours. Unless you had a mi account before an unlocked a phone
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That is an interesting note. I created an account a few days ago, when I ordered the phone. Does this already count as "having an account before trying to unlock"?
Could please someone let me know if I can install Indian rom on global version phone, and please share the way to install.
Yes, You can Install it.
The Process are
- Unlock Bootloader using Mi Unlock Tool.
- Download Fastboot Rom of Indian Version.
- Download MiFlash Tool and while flashing, Don't Select "Clean all and lock" option. Just select only "Clean all" option to avoid brick issue.
*Note: Unlocking Bootloader will erase user data. If device got brick, only option to fix it is to take it to service center.
I'm gonna do this tonight, been waiting 7 days to unlock bootloader, just for this.
The only reason I'm doing this is to get stock MIUI Dialer and messaging app, with default call recording built-in.
Can someone confirm this?
crni_vatreni said:
I'm gonna do this tonight, been waiting 7 days to unlock bootloader, just for this.
The only reason I'm doing this is to get stock MIUI Dialer and messaging app, with default call recording built-in.
Can someone confirm this?
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Yas miui dialer and message apps are available in Indian rom
But there is no NFC on Indian rom, right?
polfrank said:
But there is no NFC on Indian rom, right?
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No NFC hardware in device itself. So, No NFC in Indian Rom.
So have you done it and did it Work? I don't wanna brick my phone while doing this.
crni_vatreni said:
I'm gonna do this tonight, been waiting 7 days to unlock bootloader, just for this.
The only reason I'm doing this is to get stock MIUI Dialer and messaging app, with default call recording built-in.
Can someone confirm this?
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Have you installed indian rom . Am looking for call recorder aswell . Share your experience
Zillkhan said:
Have you installed indian rom . Am looking for call recorder aswell . Share your experience
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Just installed the Indian Rom via MiFlash and it works. Got Xiaomi Dialer and Messanger instead of Google's.
What about alexa ?is is working?and do check nfc aswell as it's available in global phones unlike the indian variants
maanni said:
What about alexa ?is is working?and do check nfc aswell as it's available in global phones unlike the indian variants
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Alexa does work but make sure to turn off Alexa hands-free in the notification toggle. My device couldn't play audio, auto-brightness didn't work and videos were sped up. After turning it off everything worked again.
NFC is nowhere available, not as a toggle and not in the settings.
DerTorbenNexus4 said:
Alexa does work but make sure to turn off Alexa hands-free in the notification toggle. My device couldn't play audio, auto-brightness didn't work and videos were sped up. After turning it off everything worked again.
NFC is nowhere available, not as a toggle and not in the settings.
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How is yoyr experience going on with indian rom ?
maanni said:
How is yoyr experience going on with indian rom ?
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Actually way more boring than I thought. Flashed the China Rom after that and that also sucked. I'm now back on EEA
Can you also tell how to install the Android 10 rom on Indian device? I've been waiting for so long but the Indian Rom is still stuck on 11.0.4
DerTorbenNexus4 said:
Actually way more boring than I thought. Flashed the China Rom after that and that also sucked. I'm now back on EEA
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Same here.installed the indian variant but it looked a bit laggy
Now i am back on the Indonesian one and it's quite good and looks better than the EEA and Global rom.
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nitsinc said:
Can you also tell how to install the Android 10 rom on Indian device? I've been waiting for so long but the Indian Rom is still stuck on 11.0.4
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Android 10 hasn't been launched yet in india or on global rom but might come in a week or 2 since china already received it.
Hello. My miui version is Global 11.0.4. Can I install Indian Rom with version 11.0.2?
javad2656 said:
Hello. My miui version is Global 11.0.4. Can I install Indian Rom with version 11.0.2?
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If your bootloader is unlocked and you flash the whole Rom using fastboot, it should not be a problem.
I've read about some anti-rollback 'feature' on some roms, but that would be from Android 10 I think.
Both the versions you mentioned being Android 9 they should not have it.
PS: If you flash IN Rom you are going to loose NFC.
Having the preloader and lk already installed as the megathread intrudes, just need to follow the same steps indicated here?
Do I need to reinstall it after the flash of the Indian version?
Thanks.
Hey guys,
Indonesian or Malaysian rom does have the mi dialer with call recorder and NFC support?
I have a global device with the indian rom because the call recorder but I need the NFC too.
joaquimferreira said:
Hey guys,
Indonesian or Malaysian rom does have the mi dialer with call recorder and NFC support?
I have a global device with the indian rom because the call recorder but I need the NFC too.
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no it doesn't only global devices rom get nfc hardware so is software support , conclusion is any device sold officially outside india is global rom and have nfc , i tried indian rom but problem is to make something like that you need to make a custom rom with these features which is nearly impossible because mediatek doesn't care about its' customers and its' restrictions are beyond insane , that's why xiaomi.eu ended support for mediatek phones because of bad platform and crazy restrictions that blocks developers from having freedom that they get on snapdragon platform , it's not xiaomi's fault.
my note 8t just had an ota update u.k 11.0.2.0 stable, has everyone else had this update.
Yea I got the update too, two weeks ago when I bought it in Germany (had MIUI 10 installed before but upgraded immediately).
But I guess the official miui download site has already a newer version: MIUI 11.0.3.0.
Checkout for the Redmi Note 8T EEA (PCXEUXM) as you got the EU version as well as me. The page says MIUI 10 but it is definitely MIUI 11. This version has a newer Android Security Patch level (December 19) and official theme support. I'm using it right now.
But there is also this page which got 11.0.5.0. I haven't tried this version yet. Maybe someone could give some feedback on this.
I also saw 11.0.4.0 floating somewhere on this Forum.
in settings on my note 8t it says miui global and not eea, iv heard eea version has less adds inside apps ? on my global you have to turn off adds in each app one by one, is it the same in eea, if not id rather have eea.
bluefender said:
in settings on my note 8t it says miui global and not eea, iv heard eea version has less adds inside apps ? on my global you have to turn off adds in each app one by one, is it the same in eea, if not id rather have eea.
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Better try xiaomi.eu rom and forget about stock roms.... Debloated,cutomized,tweaked,deodexed amd optimized
the_weird_aquarian said:
Better try xiaomi.eu rom and forget about stock roms.... Debloated,cutomized,tweaked,deodexed amd optimized
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i dont see a rom for the 8t willow only the 8 ginko, could you
Today is pushed OTA update to random users cause it is beta stable...
11.0.2.0 - for Global MI version
11.0.5.0 - for Global EEA version
It is only new security patch 01/2020. Bugs are not fixed.
bluefender said:
i dont see a rom for the 8t willow only the 8 ginko, could you
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There you go :
Android file host server
Sourceforge server
I got ota update miui_WILLOWEEAGlobal_V11.0.5.0.PCXEUXM_96688d238d_9.0 can I flash it in twrp recovery?
cyberra2n said:
I got ota update miui_WILLOWEEAGlobal_V11.0.5.0.PCXEUXM_96688d238d_9.0 can I flash it in twrp recovery?
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I think with twrp not, but with orangefox yes...
Thx worked for me...
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There you go :
Android file host server
Sourceforge server
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Hi. Can you relock the bootloader after installing Xiaomi.eu? I'm asking because i don't want to keep it open, will not experiment too much. Am mainly interested in default MIUI experience with all MI apps (dialler and messsages)...
Thanks.
axlgothika said:
Hi. Can you relock the bootloader after installing Xiaomi.eu? I'm asking because i don't want to keep it open, will not experiment too much. Am mainly interested in default MIUI experience with all MI apps (dialler and messsages)...
Thanks.
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nope
Well, i recently bought this phone, already applied to unlock bootloader but i have to wait a week, so in the meantime i'm learning about roms based on xiaomi and custom roms...
My main concern is, i'm running MIUI Global 11.0.3 | Stable | 11.0.3(PCOIDXM) with security patch from 2020-01-01. I saw other guys with newers MIUI versions than mine, so i found about Xiaomi.EU, i read it is the best MIUI rom but i would like to get some recommendations...
Also, my main objective is to get an stable rom with good battery usage, having root and maybe install xposed with magisk but this last is not that important.
I 'm also confused about if when i charge Xiaomi EU to my phone will it keep receiving OTA? or what should i do in case i want to go back and be able to receive OTA?
Las question is, i found this site https://xiaomi.eu/community/threads/20-3-19.54975/ and the last version is xiaomi.eu_multi_HMNote8_20.3.19_v11-9.zip, is it compatible with all variants of Xiaomi RN8?, i found that there are 2 RN8 versions, a Global Version and an Indonesian version, comparing MIUI version i think i have and indonesian version, does the variant is important in case i want to use xiaomi eu?
Ohh, i see a did a lot of question but i post this in the hope that you guys can help this newbie to tweak his RN8
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Well, i recently bought this phone, already applied to unlock bootloader but i have to wait a week, so in the meantime i'm learning about roms based on xiaomi and custom roms...
My main concern is, i'm running MIUI Global 11.0.3 | Stable | 11.0.3(PCOIDXM) with security patch from 2020-01-01. I saw other guys with newers MIUI versions than mine, so i found about Xiaomi.EU, i read it is the best MIUI rom but i would like to get some recommendations...
Also, my main objective is to get an stable rom with good battery usage, having root and maybe install xposed with magisk but this last is not that important.
I 'm also confused about if when i charge Xiaomi EU to my phone will it keep receiving OTA? or what should i do in case i want to go back and be able to receive OTA?
Las question is, i found this site https://xiaomi.eu/community/threads/20-3-19.54975/ and the last version is xiaomi.eu_multi_HMNote8_20.3.19_v11-9.zip, is it compatible with all variants of Xiaomi RN8?, i found that there are 2 RN8 versions, a Global Version and an Indonesian version, comparing MIUI version i think i have and indonesian version, does the variant is important in case i want to use xiaomi eu?
Ohh, i see a did a lot of question but i post this in the hope that you guys can help this newbie to tweak his RN8
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Actually RN8 has not 2 but 4 versions; Global, Chinese, Indonesian and Indian.
You can use it on any RN8 unlocked version no matter regions, it's set to global.
Since years I'm using Xiaomi.eu ROMs and over other MIUI based ROMs it's way better, great battery performance.
This ROM ever has the latest security patch updates cause is built over the Chinese version.
And regarding OTA updates; Xiaomi.eu ROMs have weekly updates.
What about the Dialer and Messaging apps? Is it the stock MIUI one or the Google ones?
SubwayChamp said:
Actually RN8 has not 2 but 4 versions; Global, Chinese, Indonesian and Indian.
You can use it on any RN8 unlocked version no matter regions, it's set to global.
Since years I'm using Xiaomi.eu ROMs and over other MIUI based ROMs it's way better, great battery performance.
This ROM ever has the latest security patch updates cause is built over the Chinese version.
And regarding OTA updates; Xiaomi.eu ROMs have weekly updates.
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honestly it doesn't have the latest security patch versions....they use old ones and advertise newest....latest beta version for example use security patches from September and they change it in build.prop so that in phone settings it says latest march/april whatever security patch...following are the two lines :
Code:
ro.build.version.security_patch=
ro.build.version.security_patch_real=
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ElIT3ShOOT3R said:
What about the Dialer and Messaging apps? Is it the stock MIUI one or the Google ones?
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It has miui stock ones..except willow(redmi note 8T) as it doesn't have china builds....hence 8t has google ones
the_weird_aquarian said:
honestly it doesn't have the latest security patch versions....they use old ones and advertise newest....latest beta version for example use security patches from September and they change it in build.prop so that in phone settings it says latest march/april whatever security patch...following are the two lines :
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I didn't mind that they do that, I would expect from other non reliable site to do such bad practice, many people trust in their. I didn't check from the other ROMs that are based on their too, eg., Mi Globe, etc. Let me ask you how do you know or you have some source regarding to share with us?
SubwayChamp said:
I didn't mind that they do that, I would expect from other non reliable site to do such bad practice, many people trust in their. I didn't check from the other ROMs that are based on their too, eg., Mi Globe, etc. Let me ask you how do you know or you have some source regarding to share with us?
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I know because I'm using EU beta myself..so my source which is me..is never wrong..I don't trust other websites etc too...other miui roms like miui mix,minovo,mi room etc are all built on EU so they have the same thing..old security patch..advertised as new one.
the_weird_aquarian said:
It has miui stock ones..except willow(redmi note 8T) as it doesn't have china builds....hence 8t has google ones
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Apart from the weekly securtiy patches, is it any better than the indian rom (11.0.3) for the note 8?
Secondly, is the Indian version really behind in software updates from the global version (in terms of changes and security patches) or is it just the numbering of the versions different?
ElIT3ShOOT3R said:
Apart from the weekly securtiy patches, is it any better than the indian rom (11.0.3) for the note 8?
Secondly, is the Indian version really behind in software updates from the global version (in terms of changes and security patches) or is it just the numbering of the versions different?
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Well like I mentioned in my previous replies, you won't get any weekly patches or monthly patches for that matter...EU uses september security patch and changes build.prop so that it appears latest in phone settings...among other things it is better than stock rom (indian,global,etc etc) as it's debloated,optimized,deodexed and tweaked a lil bit..also it has all features included in china roms every week so that is cool...it also has all ads removed...although I debloat more..sure you can debloat and do everything else on your indian rom too but you have to wait for stable builds for long and you gotta repeat the debloating all over again everytime you update...
regarding difference between indian and global...mainly it is the miui apps on indian rom and google apps on global..also a bit of themes and stuff on indian and wifi calling on global...rest it's all same....don't go on the numbering of versions too much...it's all the same with a bit of this and that difference like I said.
the_weird_aquarian said:
Well like I mentioned in my previous replies, you won't get any weekly patches or monthly patches for that matter...EU uses september security patch and changes build.prop so that it appears latest in phone settings...among other things it is better than stock rom (indian,global,etc etc) as it's debloated,optimized,deodexed and tweaked a lil bit..also it has all features included in china roms every week so that is cool...it also has all ads removed...although I debloat more..sure you can debloat and do everything else on your indian rom too but you have to wait for stable builds for long and you gotta repeat the debloating all over again everytime you update...
regarding difference between indian and global...mainly it is the miui apps on indian rom and google apps on global..also a bit of themes and stuff on indian and wifi calling on global...rest it's all same....don't go on the numbering of versions too much...it's all the same with a bit of this and that difference like I said.
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Thanks for the detailed explanation man!
Wow, thanks you all for replying!
the_weird_aquarian said:
Well like I mentioned in my previous replies, you won't get any weekly patches or monthly patches for that matter...EU uses september security patch and changes build.prop so that it appears latest in phone settings...among other things it is better than stock rom (indian,global,etc etc) as it's debloated,optimized,deodexed and tweaked a lil bit..also it has all features included in china roms every week so that is cool...it also has all ads removed...although I debloat more..sure you can debloat and do everything else on your indian rom too but you have to wait for stable builds for long and you gotta repeat the debloating all over again everytime you update...
regarding difference between indian and global...mainly it is the miui apps on indian rom and google apps on global..also a bit of themes and stuff on indian and wifi calling on global...rest it's all same....don't go on the numbering of versions too much...it's all the same with a bit of this and that difference like I said.
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Apart xiaomi.eu are there other ROMs that are a way better than global and have really updated security patches?
Sent with Redmi Note 8t
TapaSte said:
Apart xiaomi.eu are there other ROMs that are a way better than global and have really updated security patches?
Sent with Redmi Note 8t
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Here's the thing..Most miui custom roms like miui mix,minovo,miroom etc etc are all based on eu so they don't have updated security patches....try aosp based roms or stick to stock roms if you really want updated security patches..
i like miui eu
the_weird_aquarian said:
Here's the thing..Most miui custom roms like miui mix,minovo,miroom etc etc are all based on eu so they don't have updated security patches....try aosp based roms or stick to stock roms if you really want updated security patches..
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Thanks... So, all considered, which is for You the best tom option for redmi note 8/8t ?
Maybe a aosp based one ?
rn8t
what about GLOBE ROM ?
mauecky said:
what about GLOBE ROM ?
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Global rom (stock) is... not so good.
rn8t
You guys should go for miglobe.com rom. Based in miui.eu with cuztomizations to be baked in the rom that you can choose by yourself. Really cool!
TapaSte said:
Global rom (stock) is... not so good.
rn8t
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im talking about
https://mi-globe.com/miui-firmware-rom-builder/
shortiz69 said:
You guys should go for miglobe.com rom. Based in miui.eu with cuztomizations to be baked in the rom that you can choose by yourself. Really cool!
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Do you refer to global mi instead global eea (that is stock in EU)?
rn8t
mauecky said:
im talking about
https://mi-globe.com/miui-firmware-rom-builder/
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Can confirm this ROM is better than the stock. But don't build it with magisk, it bootlooped for me, just flash it after. The beta seems to have new features to, such as when installing apps, you get options to clear cache or delete the APK file if it's sideloaded. You also need orangefox recovery, didn't work with twrp when I tried.
Hello, is it possible to flash the China rom to a global rom device without rooting?
If yes, where I can get this China rom?
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Will the China rom work with the EU Providers? (In my case its Germany)
Thanks for your answers.
Best Regards
Dennis
gelittbenberg said:
Hello, is it possible to flash the China rom to a global rom device without rooting?
If yes, where I can get this China rom?
And:
Will the China rom work with the EU Providers? (In my case its Germany)
Thanks for your answers.
Best Regards
Dennis
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Just download the cn rom from nubia. Why you want to is beyond me? Stay with global
VZTech said:
Just download the cn rom from nubia. Why you want to is beyond me? Stay with global
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Because I heared on the cn rom are more software features implemented.
Because face unlock and root without breaking fingerprint reader with the China ROM. I just tried installing Black Magic 5G on my global 12/256, and it's currently stuck in TWRP, won't flash anything correctly, won't boot, I'm assuming it's a global ROM issue, I'm trying to figure out how to flash the China ROM so I can start over and try Black Magic 5G again to see if that improves my results, so far I can't even get it to flash.
But if anyone wants it, I found a mega link to the latest China ROM that's suppose to be flashable through the factory recovery or TWRP. I haven't been able to get it working in TWRP, but if anyone wants to upload a TWRP backup of stock 12/256 global ROM so I can revert back to factory recovery and try flashing the China ROM that way, would be appreciated.
bANONYMOUS said:
Because face unlock and root without breaking fingerprint reader with the China ROM. I just tried installing Black Magic 5G on my global 12/256, and it's currently stuck in TWRP, won't flash anything correctly, won't boot, I'm assuming it's a global ROM issue, I'm trying to figure out how to flash the China ROM so I can start over and try Black Magic 5G again to see if that improves my results, so far I can't even get it to flash.
But if anyone wants it, I found a mega link to the latest China ROM that's suppose to be flashable through the factory recovery or TWRP. I haven't been able to get it working in TWRP, but if anyone wants to upload a TWRP backup of stock 12/256 global ROM so I can revert back to factory recovery and try flashing the China ROM that way, would be appreciated.
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I would love to try a link to the china rom.
dispatcher2412 said:
I would love to try a link to the china rom.
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I didn't upload this file, I just found the link.
https://mega.nz/file/vc0DiabR#npahTop-JXZ9Mwv-lA7G6DxTG2qqOOAf6AwW8NdEEKw
rom global
Hello need rom global eu nubia redmagic 5g NX659j please
gti57 said:
Hello need rom global eu nubia redmagic 5g NX659j please
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Global ROM has not been released yet!
dispatcher2412 said:
I would love to try a link to the china rom.
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Have you tried flashing CN ROM from Global?
VZTech said:
Just download the cn rom from nubia. Why you want to is beyond me? Stay with global
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#,bloated
china rom will work on any region device.
Android 11 version of all 5G/S roms are universally able to flash.
you need to flash through system / local update, and you need to use the full rom zip.
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features of China rom.
--China rom is bloated heavily with chinese apps that wont work in other regions due to needing a Nubia account ( which can only be made using a Chinese registered Phone number)
--these apps can be frozen / disabled.
there is no gapps / playstore. you need to install playstore seperately and then install the various google apps you use.
--stock rom you cannot change the launcher without doing some little tweaks.
-- NFC does NOT function in China rom, if you use NFC or want to use NFC, you will have to return to Global.
you do not need to root, or unlocked your device to change regions. just make sure you're locally updated to android 11, and install the region rom you wish through the system menu.