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The subject heading pretty much says it all. I think about once a week I'm coming to my phone, pressing the power button to wake up the screen, and I'm finding that the phone was totally off.
Just the other day it happened twice. Never happened before, and it may be a one off.
But am I just accidentally taping power off (which I'm pretty sure I am) or am I going towards making sure my backups are current and getting a replacement (no doubt referbished) Desire?
Perhaps it's a 3rd party application causing the issue?
I'd suggest you do a hard reset and see if the problem comes back.
It's pretty difficult to accidentally power off your device. You still have to go through 2 screen taps to power off after you long-press the stand-by key.
Get it exchanged if you've ruled out any 3rd party applications.
This happened to me for the first time yesterday. Left my phone in the glove box of my car, came back and it was turned off. It would turn back on either, I tried for ages in a mild panic!
When I got home I removed the battery for a bit and then it suddenly worked.
All been OK since.
ohyeahar said:
Perhaps it's a 3rd party application causing the issue?
I'd suggest you do a hard reset and see if the problem comes back.
It's pretty difficult to accidentally power off your device. You still have to go through 2 screen taps to power off after you long-press the stand-by key.
Get it exchanged if you've ruled out any 3rd party applications.
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I was thinking about 3rd party applications, but haven't started investigating. Probably because of the frequency it occurs and the amount of apps I have. Though I think I only have pretty popular apps.
I did a post a while ago that I had dropped the phone in a very minor way that would not have broken a Jacobs Cream Cracker (if you don't live in UK, they are very fragile, brittle, biscuit type things). But on each of the two times, one of them being a very cushioned landing, when I picked up the phone, it was off. I was thinking that this must have been what happened. But I'm now thinking it was either a separate issue or coincidence because I don't drop the phone and it still is sometimes off. And I think this occured before even the minor falls.
Hmmmm.....
I just did a test and dropped it from exactly 3cm flat onto my desk and it was instant off. I should add that I have a silicone/gel tight case on my Desire.
Like I said before I don't think this is the main problem, I think this is a secondary issue. And as I've said before, I think the phone going off from this sort of a drop/shock is too sensitive and delicate. Maybe sometime is not quite as tight as it could be in other people's phones.
Perhaps the body of your device is a bit warped such that the battery is a bit loose. That would explain why your device would power off from shock. The battery contacts may have shifted.
Try this. Take off your battery cover. The battery contacts should be on the left (the side without the volume rocker). Try to leverage the right side (the side with the volume rocker) of the battery so that the battery remains in contact with the device. I would try to slip thin strips of paper on the right so that it pushes the battery to the left.
Then try your 3cm drop test again. See if it improves.
If it improves, you can choose to continue using this method (despite how ghetto it is). Or you can see if you can get it replaced under warranty. Don't mention that you dropped the device, of course!
Other issues (like the glovebox fellow) could be related to heat, too. If it's too warm, I wouldn't be surprised if it turns off and doesn't turn back on until it's cooled down.
The phone has never yet failed to turn on the instance I've pressed the power button.
Looking into said ghetto method....
Nope. Contacts on the phone are all sprunt and sticking out nicely to meet the contacts on the battery, which will then compress the sprung contacs. So I doubt pushing any of the contact out further will help.
Is there any sound meant to come from the phone when you shake it? I don't mean furiously shake it, but just a milding shaking by your ear.
I have always heard a small movement but had assumed it was the vibrating mechanism.
Cleargrey said:
Is there any sound meant to come from the phone when you shake it? I don't mean furiously shake it, but just a milding shaking by your ear.
I have always heard a small movement but had assumed it was the vibrating mechanism.
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Its the camera lens (internal focus part). Its like this on all HTC devices due to the lens they use.
(I posted this first in the Desire Z forum. I didn't realize there was a separate G2 forum. I even looked for it.)
I've had my G2 since the 9/29 and on several occasions I've noticed the trackpad triggering itself when my finger is no where near it.
Once, I was in the market looking at a list of apps. Normally, when you swipe on the trackpad in there it selects an application and highlights it orange. This randomly happened all by itself. If I touch the screen the selection goes away, but then it would suddenly appear again a few seconds later.
In Subsonic it even jumped around between a few controls.
Another time I was playing Wordfeud and it spontaneously highlighted the Pass button. This time I grabbed my old G1 to shoot video of it happening. I must have shot at least 10 minutes of video and it happened twice more, as I recall.
Update: Here's a video of it happening on the home screen: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9-Yu4DSimw
Anyone else have this problem? I can't reproduce it at will. It seems to happen randomly while I'm holding the phone.
naw, but i've noticed my trackpad will occasionally bring my display back to life when it's timed out - will not do it predictably, but 2-3 times out of 10 tries, it will
have no idea what's going on, but would love to be able to use it to wake the phone up - much easier than using the power button
Hmmm, I have my phone plugged in via USB right now. I have debugging turned on, and "keep screen on" enabled. So it sits there dimly lit after 2 minutes. I was going to leave it alone and see if the trackpad spontaneously moves when I'm not holding the phone.
So far it has not, but just now the screen lit back up to full brightness all by itself. This normally happens when you touch the screen, a button, or the trackpad.
In all previous cases of my bug, I was holding the phone. I heard that the trackpad is capacitive, just like the screen, so maybe holding the phone a certain way can mess with it, but sitting on a desk it won't. If I let the phone sit here long enough, maybe I can refute that idea. If a home screen icon suddenly becomes selected, I'll know that it can happen even when I'm not touching the phone.
In any case, I can't explain why my screen woke back up from being dim.
Yea the touch stuff is set off by heat so maybe it felt some heat from somewhere and thought that you touched it. Thats about all i can think of on that one.
I'm pretty sure it's triggered by electrical capacitance, not by heat. It's either optical or by capacitance (and I heard it's not optical). I don't think any sensors like this use a heat detection mechanism.
To test this, you should be able to hold something cold with a similar capacitance as your skin, like a cold hot dog, and operate the trackpad using it.
See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacitive_sensing
Yes , I noticed mine doing the same thing. If my finger were to hover anywhere near the trackpad it would flash and move around. It doesnt happen all the time but it has happened. I also have had some issues with the sim card and memory card not being read. The memory card I had to put it on my pc transfer all the data, re format and scan the card then reinstall my data to the card. Which has fixed the issue. I suspect a download from the market may have corrupted my memory card.
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As promised, here's a video of it happening: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9-Yu4DSimw
So, at first I thought the trackpad was optical, but someone on reddit assertively said, "no, it's capacitive." So I believed him. But now I think he's wrong.
I believe that if the trackpad is capacitive like the touchscreen, then anything that can interact with the trackpad can also interact with the touchscreen. I used a piece of cloth to interact with the touchpad and it did not interact with the touchscreen.
Here's a video I just made: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYaSzwZGlvY
(Shot with my G1) The cloth easily moves the trackpad around, but it's impossible to get it to register a touch on the screen.
Also, the trackpad is perfectly usable even when your finger is completely covering it. Try it with your thumb even. You can completely cover it then still move around your thumb and your selection will move around. I do not believe a capacitive device would detect the difference between full contact on one place on your thumb and full contact on a different part of your thumb, and especially not the direction of change as you move it. Capacitive touch screens rely on moving the point of skin contact, which never happens if you're touching the whole thing at once. An optical sensor on the other hand would be seeing your fingerprint move.
Thirdly, when you look at the trackpad in direct light, it looks like dark, transparent, purple plastic. I believe it's transparent yet purple because the wavelength of light it emits can go through the plastic, but is not visible light. Infrared maybe? Ultraviolet? I think it's very similar to the "black" CDs for the original Playsation gaming console. They were actually very, very dark purple but that was completely transparent to the CD player.
See a photo: http://i.imgur.com/SpIIZ.jpg
Fourth, I can't get this bug to happen if I hold the phone perfectly still. It only seems to happen when I move it around in my hand. I think the sensor is "seeing" movement when I do that.
And here's the proverbial nail in the coffin: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOQukQxwajg
Electrical tape doesn't stop a capacitive touch screen, but it renders the trackpad useless.
It's probably a simple IR LED and photodiode operating in much the same way an optical mouse operates. One way you could check is to point an old camcorder at the trackpad. Old camcorders tend to have weak or no IR filters.
jashsu said:
It's probably a simple IR LED and photodiode operating in much the same way an optical mouse operates. One way you could check is to point an old camcorder at the trackpad. Old camcorders tend to have weak or no IR filters.
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My old G1's camera has no problem seeing the IR from my TV's remote, but it detects nothing coming from the trackpad. However, the remote is designed to reach a lot further than the trackpad, so maybe the trackpad's LED is just very dim.
I don't have anything else to test it with.
yes, i have had this problem!!...it did it on my home screen, just starts switch home screens left and right...this was like two days ago...it hasn't done it since,still debating if i should get a new phone
The trackpad is optical/IR. It responds to infrared. If you go out on a sunny day, your trackpad will go wild. The new blackberrys have the same problem. I really do not think there is a fix, and it's pretty annoying. I've owned a Blackberry 9700 since January and I never could find a way around this, no matter what sensitivity setting I had it on or how much I updated the OS.
I've noticed the same thing with the G2.. in sunlight, the cursor goes crazy.
If there were ever any sun in Rochester, NY I would test this. I assume It's only a problem if the phone itself is in direct sunlight. Is the the case? So, if I shield it with my own shadow I'd be ok?
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I just noticed this with my G2, kind of annoying, ha. So I experimented and found that nothing happens while holding the phone still or while it sits on the desk, or with the room's light off. But, if I tilt it around with the light on, it acts up.
I think it's detecting the light behind me.
i think its kinda cool. doesnt bother me cuz it makes my phone feel.... alive in a sense. but it is very light sensitive. im freaking loving this phone. not a single complaint
I would like to have the screen power down, but leave the touchscreen active. Then I can tap/swipe the screen to return the display, instead of hitting the power button. [Note: This is only for a "docked" state.]
Also, since "Display" is always the battery killer, this could prove useful for battery savings. With the screen dimmed to 20, I'm drawing about ~500mA. With the display is off, the power draw is ~100mA. Pandora is playing away the whole time. [Note: I'm not checking the power draw often, so take these numbers with a grain of salt.]
I would really like the nitty gritty details on how the power is routed to all the components (i.e. what can be independently powered up/down, and what is on the same power bus).
Any kernel gurus out there?
To be honest, this just sounds like a not-so-good idea.
Why not just flash something that gives your optical button joystick thing an unlock function?
And if you are just using this for when it is docked, why not just leave the screen on?
So, flashing an unofficial rom is a good idea, but tweaking one is not? If people didn't try the "not-so-good" ideas, this site wouldn't exist.
I have CM7, so I have the feature... disabled. The OJ button pushes the phone "dock" across my desk, and unlocks my phone if I pull it out of my pocket the wrong way. Besides, this is only substituting one button for another.
At a minimum, it would be nice to get the backlight to <5 (out of 255, not %), but I assume a full power down is where the real power savings will come from. I just want to tap the screen to bring back the UI.
sealdog said:
And if you are just using this for when it is docked, why not just leave the screen on?
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Charging + screen on + CPU active = overheating battery. (i.e. It's not good for the battery.)
No need to get defensive but I see your point.
I think he just meant not optimal or efficient but it is your phone and actually sounded like an idea I thought of a while back. I'll be watching the thread.
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No need to get defensive but I see your point.
I think he just meant not optimal or efficient but it is your phone and actually sounded like an idea I thought of a while back. I'll be watching the thread.
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That was more after-work-commute mood than anything he said. I thought I caught the pissy bits (that isn't the original text), but apparently not.
So, sorry, SealDog. I didn't mean to be such an _____.
Anyways, here's another way to think about it, or just more info....
I just plugged in to AC, and the battery is at 23%. This means the charge current is at ~950mA.
With the screen off, it's putting ~800-850mA towards charging the battery (fast charge rate). With the screen on, it's only putting ~500mA towards charging (trickle charge rate), and burning up ~450mA.
Somewhere around 40-42 degrees C, the charge controller drops to ~500mA, because the battery is getting too hot. Yet, I'm still drawing ~450mA, leaving almost no current towards charging.
When it gets hotter (42-44 degrees C), the charger shuts off completely. Now, I'm just discharging the battery.
I have run into this too many times. 6+ hours on the charger, and the battery has only charged up 10-15%. Not cool. (In fact, the phone is freaking hot.)
BTW, I'm trying find every on/off setting I can (e.g. 1x/3G toggle). Mainly, I want to know what each unit's idle power is. I read about lots of battery saving things, but do they really help? Does 1x truly draw less idle current than 3G? Does shutting off wifi, gps, etc. actually save power when idle? Byrong did a nice backlight + CPU frequency examination. I'd just like to go further. I have an incomplete test built in Tasker (I have to fix the stinking task priorities, and remove all "sleeps").
My ultimate goal is to have a set of Tasker profiles that optimize power consumption for my purposes, without sacrificing functionality. For example, my mobile data choice is on or off, but off means C2DM can't reach the phone. I have plans for C2DM, so this isn't something I wish to sacrifice. But, if the screen is off and the network load is near zero, 1x is sufficient.
Try screen stand by root
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This is available on my S3 i9300 with Siyah kernel, but I don't use it for two reasons:
- Accidentally activating the screen and waking the phone
- The digitizer normally turns off, and leaving it on drains your battery.
I've had the phone for a few days now (ordered last week on Amazon), and thought I'd share my experience so far.
Edge Sense is buggy. Activating it sometimes activates the volume down button. Sometimes it's REALLY sensitive, and sometimes it just doesn't work. Doesn't really matter how I've calibrated the squeeze level.
These buttons... I understand the frustration that reviewers have, and not even from a defect perspective, but from a usability perspective. I find them too sensitive. I often accidentally press the power button as I handle my phone in different ways (e..g, trying to show a video to a friend on my phone in landscape mode; showing a friend how to use the camera), causing the screen to turn off.
Ghost presses on the volume down and power buttons happen sporadically, but enough times (in one day) to drive me nuts. When in my pocket and listening to music, the volume occasionally lowers (is it thinking I'm pressing the volume down button?). My phone has rebooted multiple times on its own (even into recovery mode on two occasions). It's as if it thinks I'm pressing and holding the volume down and/or power buttons. This happens maybe 2-3 times a day. It doesn't sound like a lot, but it's a HUGE pain, and a showstopping bug IMO.
I feel like when the phone gets hot, Edge Sense and the buttons go crazy with sensitivity and ghost presses.
The volume buttons don't work at all in battery saver mode!
For some reason, none of the buttons work when I have my phone in a car mount that squeezes onto the sides.
I really want to like this phone, because aside from these issues (for me, they're approaching to be dealbreakers), the phone is fantastic. The camera is truly phenomenal. I am really hoping that the upcoming firmware update arrives stateside ASAP, because I'm almost ready to hit the 'return' button on Amazon.
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I've had the phone for a few days now (ordered last week on Amazon), and thought I'd share my experience so far.
Edge Sense is buggy. Activating it sometimes activates the volume down button. Sometimes it's REALLY sensitive, and sometimes it just doesn't work. Doesn't really matter how I've calibrated the squeeze level.
These buttons... I understand the frustration that reviewers have, and not even from a defect perspective, but from a usability perspective. I find them too sensitive. I often accidentally press the power button as I handle my phone in different ways (e..g, trying to show a video to a friend on my phone in landscape mode; showing a friend how to use the camera), causing the screen to turn off.
Ghost presses on the volume down and power buttons happen sporadically, but enough times (in one day) to drive me nuts. When in my pocket and listening to music, the volume occasionally lowers (is it thinking I'm pressing the volume down button?). My phone has rebooted multiple times on its own (even into recovery mode on two occasions). It's as if it thinks I'm pressing and holding the volume down and/or power buttons. This happens maybe 2-3 times a day. It doesn't sound like a lot, but it's a HUGE pain, and a showstopping bug IMO.
I feel like when the phone gets hot, Edge Sense and the buttons go crazy with sensitivity and ghost presses.
The volume buttons don't work at all in battery saver mode!
For some reason, none of the buttons work when I have my phone in a car mount that squeezes onto the sides.
I really want to like this phone, because aside from these issues (for me, they're approaching to be dealbreakers), the phone is fantastic. The camera is truly phenomenal. I am really hoping that the upcoming firmware update arrives stateside ASAP, because I'm almost ready to hit the 'return' button on Amazon.
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It seems since you have older software, maybe the Amazon units are shipping with older software. I wouldn't know, just a guess. But I'm quite sure an update or two will get better for you.
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It seems since you have older software, maybe the Amazon units are shipping with older software. I wouldn't know, just a guess. But I'm quite sure an update or two will get better for you.
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Yeah, its not "amazon units" or software versions. I have one direct from HTC, 3 days old. WORST buttons ever. Response is so variable its disgusting. And no one here has even mentioned putting a case on this u12+... Do that and buttons work maybe 10% of the time. Absolutely unacceptable...
And if you thing its a great build.... Think again... Those buttons are held on with double-sided tape... LMFAO
And you can get the back cover off without tools, its just adhesive all the way around.... One fingernail and your're in! But on the bright side, you can replace the battery really easy yourself... So enjoy!
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Yeah, its not "amazon units" or software versions. I have one direct from HTC, 3 days old. WORST buttons ever. Response is so variable its disgusting. And no one here has even mentioned putting a case on this u12+... Do that and buttons work maybe 10% of the time. Absolutely unacceptable...
And if you thing its a great build.... Think again... Those buttons are held on with double-sided tape... LMFAO
And you can get the back cover off without tools, its just adhesive all the way around.... One fingernail and your're in! But on the bright side, you can replace the battery really easy yourself... So enjoy!
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There are many more here who disagree, of course I will find out for myself Thursday. So far I see only two of you pissing all over it, one who does have an older software version, 1.15 when there is a version that is 1.21 who is not having these issues.
About the stick on buttons, glad they are so easily replaceable. LMAO
hamdir said:
and yet i dont have any issue on my unit
looks like its quality control problem
keep in mind its running newer software than yours
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What software version are you on? I have 1.15.617.4.
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much newer 1.21.x
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SteelH said:
Yeah, its not "amazon units" or software versions. I have one direct from HTC, 3 days old. WORST buttons ever. Response is so variable its disgusting. And no one here has even mentioned putting a case on this u12+... Do that and buttons work maybe 10% of the time. Absolutely unacceptable...
And if you thing its a great build.... Think again... Those buttons are held on with double-sided tape... LMFAO
And you can get the back cover off without tools, its just adhesive all the way around.... One fingernail and your're in! But on the bright side, you can replace the battery really easy yourself... So enjoy!
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How bout you take a screenshot of your software version? Prove you even have the phone..
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There are many more here who disagree, of course I will find out for myself Thursday. So far I see only two of you pissing all over it, one who does have an older software version, 1.15 when there is a version that is 1.21 who is not having these issues.
About the stick on buttons, glad they are so easily replaceable. LMAO
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How bout you take a screenshot of your software version? Prove you even have the phone..
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Because the fanboys are the only ones left who buy HTC these days. ?
Also, I just noticed that the volume buttons do not work when the screen is off, not just in battery saver mode.
djbutter said:
Also, I just noticed that the volume buttons do not work when the screen is off, not just in battery saver mode.
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When I'm listing to music through bluetooth the volume buttons does work.
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Because the fanboys are the only ones left who buy HTC these days. ?
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Ive been using HTC for over a decade, love their phones. I bought the u12, and I returned it the next day. Yes, the buttons are that bad.
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There are many more here who disagree, of course I will find out for myself Thursday. So far I see only two of you pissing all over it, one who does have an older software version, 1.15 when there is a version that is 1.21 who is not having these issues.
About the stick on buttons, glad they are so easily replaceable. LMAO
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How bout you take a screenshot of your software version? Prove you even have the phone..
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Mom! He doesn't have the phone! Make him prove it!
djbutter said:
Also, I just noticed that the volume buttons do not work when the screen is off, not just in battery saver mode.
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Is this happening with Bluetooth? When using phone speaker it works here fine.
Also what's the setting you left your phone's squeeze sensitivity at while these volume slide and phantom power happened?
I read that you tried a few settings but what's the one you stayed with where this mostly happened.
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Because the fanboys are the only ones left who buy HTC these days. ?
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SteelH said:
Ive been using HTC for over a decade, love their phones. I bought the u12, and I returned it the next day. Yes, the buttons are that bad.
Mom! He doesn't have the phone! Make him prove it!
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I'm getting more of a laugh out of this than you all are. It seems I'm not the one hung up on HTC. I'm not the one whining about it and can't realize I can just move on if it's that bad. I don't hang in threads of phones I don't want or like just to rub it in on how bad they are LMAO
He claims he knows it's not the software version. I'd like to see what version he is on. Not just run his mouth.
tbalden said:
Is this happening with Bluetooth? When using phone speaker it works here fine.
Also what's the setting you left your phone's squeeze sensitivity at while these volume slide and phantom power happened?
I read that you tried a few settings but what's the one you stayed with where this mostly happened.
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It's really strange... The volume buttons work when the screen is off and you have something playing or paused. If there's nothing playing at all, they don't work.
At least this is happening with my phone. I wonder if anyone else experiences this. It certainly seems like it's by design.
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It's really strange... The volume buttons work when the screen is off and you have something playing or paused. If there's nothing playing at all, they don't work.
At least this is happening with my phone. I wonder if anyone else experiences this. It certainly seems like it's by design.
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Yep, I think it's by design. I have this on my op6 too.
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Is this happening with Bluetooth? When using phone speaker it works here fine.
Also what's the setting you left your phone's squeeze sensitivity at while these volume slide and phantom power happened?
I read that you tried a few settings but what's the one you stayed with where this mostly happened.
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I've set it just to the left of the middle.
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Yep, I think it's by design. I have this on my op6 too.
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Yes, this is described in the online manual.
SteelH said:
Yeah, its not "amazon units" or software versions. I have one direct from HTC, 3 days old. WORST buttons ever. Response is so variable its disgusting. And no one here has even mentioned putting a case on this u12+... Do that and buttons work maybe 10% of the time. Absolutely unacceptable...
And if you thing its a great build.... Think again... Those buttons are held on with double-sided tape... LMFAO
And you can get the back cover off without tools, its just adhesive all the way around.... One fingernail and your're in! But on the bright side, you can replace the battery really easy yourself... So enjoy!
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Personally I've never had them be unresponsive (except for in a car mount and when the screen is off with no audio playing/paused weirdly). They're pretty responsive for me. In fact, they're TOO responsive. They're too sensitive, which is prone to a lot of accidental presses. I'm actually trying to avoid touching the buttons.
It's the ghost presses and edge sense freakouts that drive me up the wall, as seldom as they happen.
no problems on my USA U12+ 128GB straight from HTC preorder hardware version 3 and i even dropped it once in the bathroom from the window ledge and it fell on the tile floor and not even a scratch also it was without the case so im glad its not shattered but my volume buttons have been very solid and works well with edge sense if u set it to sensitivity level 3 or higher for me
I have some problem on mine too, the volume down button is extremely sensitive and a slight touch will trigger it, the top one is harder but I like it better since it makes no problem. The power button is sensitive but less than volume down so it's not so bad.
Also when holding the phone normally by the side or when in my pocket the down button is triggered by pressing or slightly bending the top of the screen, it's really annoying when listening to music in the car or making a call.
Bought mine from HTC last week with the 1.15 version. If there is no update on this by the end of next week I'll have to send it back.
I hope it's gonna get corrected, I'm with htc since the hd2 and never was disappointed so I'd hate to switch brand when close to everything else about this phone is perfect.
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I have some problem on mine too, the volume down button is extremely sensitive and a slight touch will trigger it, the top one is harder but I like it better since it makes no problem. The power button is sensitive but less than volume down so it's not so bad.
Also when holding the phone normally by the side or when in my pocket the down button is triggered by pressing or slightly bending the top of the screen, it's really annoying when listening to music in the car or making a call.
Bought mine from HTC last week with the 1.15 version. If there is no update on this by the end of next week I'll have to send it back.
I hope it's gonna get corrected, I'm with htc since the hd2 and never was disappointed so I'd hate to switch brand when close to everything else about this phone is perfect.
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The Update is already near. I hope it'll roll out during the upcomming week. As far as I know it adresses Edge Sense and the button sensibility as well as battery life, and according to the tweet by LlabTooFeR it'll even bring the June 2018 security patches.
I for one have absolutely no issues with the buttons till now, however, seeing the number of people who are having problems makes me wonder if it's my settings or if I have not used my phone that much to experience any niggles.
I have kept the sensitivity to the third bar from the left.
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I for one have absolutely no issues with the buttons till now, however, seeing the number of people who are having problems makes me wonder if it's my settings or if I have not used my phone that much to experience any niggles.
I have kept the sensitivity to the third bar from the left.
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Yeah indeed seems as if not all units are affected.
Sent from my HTC U12+ using XDA Labs
Anyone run into this yet. https://www.androidpolice.com/google-pixel-6-and-6-pro-screen-flicker/
"Some Redditors speculate that the flickering might be related to static discharge that's released when hitting the button."
Yeah, nothing like the rocket scientists at Reddit to come up with sound answers
Static electricity would destroy the display.
FET's are very sensitive to over voltage on their gates.
Maybe what they were trying to say was unintentional temporary surge on the gates of the matrix TFT's.
If that's the cause long as that surge doesn't exceed the max specs for the FET's in the matrix it's not damaging. If it does, outlook not so good.
If it's not happening during normal operation once on, it's probably a harmless quirk.
Who knows maybe intentional to give it some character I sort of think it looks cool... but Google isn't cool so yeah, it's a fk up.
I have it on my P6P. Turn phone completely off, quickly tap power button and it'll flicker. I'm guessing it's trying to power up but since you only quickly pressed the button, not full power is given.
I'm not worried about it.
I've seen no noticeable flicker at all. Perhaps I just lucked out on this phone?
By design there is an inbuilt delay so you have to press and hold the power button, this helps prevents accidental power ups and also allows time for the user to press other combination of buttons (i.e. to get the bootloader screen), so on a quick press things are still happening behind the scenes like a pre-flight check, and the screen electronics are probably immediately powered up as part of this pre-flight check.
When the button is released without reaching the timeout period to trigger a full power on, the phone just goes back to being off again, now you have a falling voltage which doesn't always drop immediately due to stored charges in capacitors, and that can cause odd glitches sometimes as components see lower voltages than they are designed to work with. With sensitive chips (like flash memory) there will be brownout detection, so they immediately stop cleanly when they see a low voltage, and before that voltage has dropped so low it starts causing oddities or malfunctions. The glitching might also just be the effect of other devices stopping and magnetic fields collapsing causing some spurious data to get to the screen before the screen itself has powered off.
It certainly isn't a fault or anything to worry about, just a quirk of the design.
is it really an issue? Or just phone geeks looking for something to complain about? What effect does it actually have on the usage of the phone?
skimminstones said:
is it really an issue? Or just phone geeks looking for something to complain about? What effect does it actually have on the usage of the phone?
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Without knowing what's happening it's impossible to say it's harmless.
See my previous post.
At this price point I would send it back... or not and risk eating the repair latter. It could be mobo hardware related.
Google addressed this today saying to basically power your phone like you normally would, without pressing the power button in quick succession without powering the phone up, and that a fix will be out in the December patch/update.
It's not a hardware issue.
Link (Google community post): https://support.google.com/pixelphone/thread/133351387/pixel-6-pro-display-residual-light?hl=en
I had this happen once where the scrolling on the screen stuttered the entire time scrolling, then after closing the app and opening it again it was fine again, and haven't seen it since. My guess is that phone went into a deep sleep state, and took some time to wake
Ironically, I'm getting it using XDA website!