I connected the XDA to LAN and WAN without a PC - Windows Mobile Software Development

Soon after buying the T-Mobile MDA, it became painfully obvious that the performance of GPRS connectivity – at least in my area – is plain horrible! My guess is that I’m not alone, since a common question posted in XDA-related sites is how to WiFi with the XDA.
Well, there is no SDIO slot in the XDA that will support the SD WiFi cards, so the only way of getting connected to a LAN or WAN without schlepping your PC to act as a proxy server for pass-through would be to use a LAN/WAN-to-RS232 converter that could be plugged to the serial port socket on the XDA. I have tried a few RS232 I/O adapters with the XDA. and my results are available at:
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/prutchi/xda_connectivity.doc
(you can also try http://mywebpages.comcast.net/prutchi/xda_connectivity.htm, but I'm having some trouble with the figures)
You'll notice that I manage to communicate with resources on the net via a terminal, but haven't been able to trick IE into accepting my RS232 feed. If you try any of these interfaces and manage to open a socket, please let all of us know how.
Cheers,
David

Excellent work David,
I was able to replilcate your setup well! I am playing with a USB WAP and working on the DLLs to make it recognizable in Pocket IE. Working on understanding the connections and interface methods.
Used a GPS protocol as source and am doing some tweaks. I will post any updates or success! The only issue I am finding with this solutions is the size of the devices, but once we figure out the connection details we can port it over to smaller, power efficient devices.
Take care

Hi Ronin!
Any progress?
My intention was to use a RS232 wireless “wire” (two wireless RS232 dongles that transparently simulate an RS232 cable) to establish a wireless sync passthrough on the mean time.
Today I tried connecting via RS232 900MHz “Ticks” by Data Hunter ( The "Tick" is a complete data radio that parasitically draws all of its operating power from the RS232 data interface). However, I wasn't able to make it work
I'm pretty sure that I'm using the correct pinout configuration, but the XDA doesn't actively turn on COM1. Instead, it passively listens for activity from the PC. This leaves the Tick without power, and the PC sees no response. I'll try tickling the data ready lines to see if I can get it to establish the wireless link before actually establishing a sync connection.
Cheers,
David

Anyone tried to use the HW of a wireless Mouse?
I do not have one, so I don't know if there is only one Chip for movements and W-connections.
Maybe its possible to rewrite the mouse driver to access the data stream or just use the HW to build up a receiver.
And: The mouse-HW is LOW-POWER and small

Seems to be a real good idea Hopefully it will work

What about a USB-WLAN-Stick?
There're lots of USB-WLAN-Sticks on the market and a Driver should not be impossible to write!
I just opend the XDA-Connector (charging adapter) and found out that is every pin available! A USB-Adapter is easy to build!
Does anyone have some exp. with drivers? Can someone write a USB-devicedriver for WLAN?
Any Ideas?

ok, forget about it.
I'm still collecting information and I forgot about USB-Slave....
Well, I would like to see more results and solutions for this topic!
McNugget

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I am going to build USB port,need help.

Well guys,i am going (me and other guys who have good experience in e-circuits)to try build a USB port to the Himalaya..
Now I understand by the http://wiki.xda-developers.com/wiki/Connectors link that only the large connector have the pins for USB..
During this time,any help,new informations about himalaya's USB will be appreciated.
In fact the project "USB port" is actually at level zero. (really busy previous week)
I am trying to make this to connect especially a Mouse to XDA2
So,I really need a help from you,MattM and others..
Can someone build or convert a generic windows mouse driver to pocket pc?
Or maybe is more easy to make a serial connector for mouse?
Then does we need a pointer?
-Is this factible? or just a dream?
(Laucher Prog based on Flash like PocketWin has a Pointer add-on)
Waiting for your replyes!
Regards,Ser
i read something about it in this forum, try searching for home made keyboard or mouse & you might find some answers to the basic questions
Come on guys!
I will use the DC adapter connector and USB female connector.(You can see the photos attached)
-But first explain me closely about UDC- and UDC+ does they are for data transmission or power?
Also USB_VDD is for?
-If I connect a USB device to the XDA2 does it will give power to it?(for mouse,etc..) or do I need to connect an external power alimentation? If yes,6V?
-If I build a Serial port can you explain more about:
RS232_DCD
RS232_CTS
RS232_TXD
RS232_RTS
RS232_RXD
RS232_DTR
Maybe is simply make the serial cable like on the "Connector's Page" (http://wiki.xda-developers.com/wiki/Connectors) and attach a serial Female-Female to connect Mouses and others?
Please post your comments,suggestions,ideas.
Regards,Ser.
UDC- and UDC+ are data
USB_VDD is for power
I don't think anyone yet knows if the XDAII can work as a USB host anyway.
For rs232 you will normally only need RS232_RXD, RS232_TXD and ground.
I'm sure someone did a serial mouse program before....
Jamie
RS232_RXD, RS232_TXD are for data?
I hope someone did the program but i've searched over i-net and didn't find anything about it!
I've also read about the built-in USB port of Toshiba,some people connected their HDD and all went perfectly.
So,I hope connect a mouse will not be so hard..
Regards
Have a look here for a mouse driver http://www.windowsfordevices.com/articles/AT3401319437.html
Yeah,i've seen it before but don't sure if it will function properly,but let's take it for that moment.
Thanx!
After a short search over i-net I found the prog. that uses Toshiba for its serial devices like mouse,keyboards: Click n'type and Point n'type..let's figure more about.
OK,now I will connect the female usb to the connector like:
RED (USB_VDD +5V) to Pin 13
GREEN (UDC+) to pin 14
GOLD (UDC-) to pin 15
BLUE (GROUND) to pin 16
Correct me if it isn't.
But I can't find a scheme of the connector that I will use,I can't understand which is the pin 1..2..
Can someone give me help about?
Thanx to RUDEGAR that provided me the link,http://www.deje.gmxhome.de/software.html
I have the USB drivers and pointer for Mouse,also support for Mass storage.
i have disambled this connector 2 times
let me look it up for you
[UPSIDE]
[1] [5] [9] [13] [17] [21]
[3] [7] [11] [15] [19]
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[4] [8] [12] [16] [20]
[2] [6] [10] [14] [18] [22]
[DOWNSIDE]
now the upside is when you hold the connector flat and you see the 2 cutout lines in the plastic wich goes into the xda
topleft from that is pin 1
Well,the cable doesn't work! :x
-XDA2 does not give power to the usb device (tryed with a optical mouse)
(N:we verified with a VoltMeter and all cables seems to be ok)
-Also the DeJe Drivers (originally built to Toshiba) don't work. But the driver's are compatible with all WM2003 OS..
-I verified that on my pc(Win XP) when I connect the Optical mouse,it will no give power to the device once it load the drivers,so I guess maybe the same on Pocket Pc?
What do you think about?
-Probably I will build a Serial Cable for the Mouse
Regards, Ser
have you tryed a usb pen yet.. I see you mentioned storage before
yes,in fact I have't installed the Mass storage drivers for a Pen Drive,etc..
But I verified that no led (on pen drive) and no optical light was lightening so is easy to understand that XDA2 don't gives power to the USB devices... :?:
would they light anyway ? do they only light when the correct drivers are used and its told to light. I think it would be a awesome idea to add usb to the xda.. you could then use it for loads of other things..
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Well,the cable doesn't work! :x
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It cannot work. Never will.
There are two different types of USB devices: hosts and clients. You can only ever connect a client to a host. Connecting client to client does not work. It's a bit like two people picking up the phone, none of them dialing a number, but still hoping they'd get connected. Not going to happen.
All USB mice are USB clients. The XDA II also is a USB client. The USB chip in the XDA II can only handle being a client. It does not support host mode, so no software in the world can change the XDA II to a USB host.
So, connecting a USB client to an XDA II will never work.
For serial communication (RS232), there is no such problem, so it may be possible to connect a serial mouse to the XDA II. The first thing you have to make sure is that the voltage is correct. "Normal" RS232 uses +12V/-12V, whereas most small devices (and quite likely also the XDA II) uses 0V/5V. You may have to add a MAX232 (or compatible) level shifter chip to your cable.
I strongly suggest you search the 'net for RS232 and read as much as you can find. If you just experiment with cables without really understanding the implications, you might damage your XDA II.
Once you sorted that out, make sure you connect all the handshake lines your mouse uses. I would imagine that some mice may need at least the DTR line assigned before they will start doing anything.
After that, the rest is software. Your driver will have to a) pick the correct baud rate, b) drive the handshake lines correctly, and then c) it can start receiving data.
Good luck!
Daniel
well there are CF cards which have usb master support
and with the backpack the xda2 can use CF cards
of cause the driver issue could be troublesome and i'm
not sure about the speed dec going that interface to interface way
but i would not rule out that it could work
with the right drivers mind you
How about connecting a serial to USB convertor to the serial port on the XDA II?, surely that would leave you with a USB host port that you could plug a mouse into?
In this case is more simple to connect serial mouse to the serial port.
Dunno if how u tell the usb will work.. :?:
http://www.expansys-usa.com/product.asp?code=113389
Would this do the trick?
It says host ports, can the XDA2 handle it?

Bluetooth enabled IDE peripherals... possible?

Hi guys! I don't know if this thing belongs here, but since I'm an owner of a Blue Angel device, I'll put it here anyway. Is it possible to create a simple device which has the following components:
- An IDE adaptor (don't know if this is the right term, but what I mean is a cable which can be connected to standard HDDs', CDROMs', etc.)
- A power input to provide external power to the HDD or CDROM connected to it.
- A bluetooth radio allowing a device (PDA, cellphone, laptop) which is bluetooth enabled (like my Blue Angel) to connect to it via bluetooth. I think the directory bowsing profile, or network profile should be supported.
The purpose of such a device is to allow my Blue Angel to read CDs' and copy data from hard drives. I know it would mean carrying an extra device, but considering the advantages it would give me (reading CD's and HDD's without the need for a PC) I would surely consider adding it to my gadget bag.
Does such a device exist? If not, is it possible to make something like this?
Sorry, but it can't be done. The Blue Angel's USB port is only a USB Slave port, meaning it only works if plugged into a computer.
I dont think a bluetooth drive adapter exists, but maybe something wireless could be used??
e.g.
http://uk.asus.com/products/communication/wireless/wl-hdd25/overview.htm
Alan
I would also suggest WIFI. Bluetooth is way too slow
Toshiba used to sell a Bluetooth hard drive called the "HopBit". I don't think it was ever sold in the US but Dynamism imported it for a while. It seems to be discontinued though.

Does the Samsung LAN/USB Hub ET-UP900 work?

Hi @ all
Does anyone knows, if the original Samsung LAN/USB Hub ET-UP900 will work with this tablet? Unfortunately, I'm not allowed to post a link.
I'd like to fit the tablet into my car, use the two usb-ports for sound-out and external hard-disk, use the micro-usb for charging the tablet while using the usb-ports at the same time. LAN port not needed.
Does this work?
Greetings from Switzerland
Patrick
I've been wondering that my self??
Anyone?
I have just checked on the Samsung German site and when you select our model of tablet it comes up and says not compatible. Although I personally would take that with a pinch of salt. Shame it was not a little cheaper then I would just buy it and try it lol.
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Also looking at the specs closer it is for use on the Note Pro so there is absolutely no reason why it would not work.
Assuming that too, but too risky to buy the tablet and the hub if something won't work after all...
So I'm hoping that anyone is able to check it out.
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Assuming that too, but too risky to buy the tablet and the hub if something won't work after all...
So I'm hoping that anyone is able to check it out.
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So, guys, after a few tries with other devices like Multimedia Dock......cause i can't believe, that its not possible to use usb and charge at the same time, and ALL other devices definitely Don't work, I buy this at conrad electronic in munich, cause there I know, I can bring it back, and get money back, if it doesn't fit......and, I wonder very very much.....it works.....but I only tested usb and charge....and device check it as a usb connector....thats important.....I dont know why, but multimedia dock won't work, it doesn't be shown as a dock, no charging. ....but it works with note 3.....strange.....but now im looking for a way to connect it to LAN. If I connect it, nothing happens, no internet connection.....how it will work on pro? An app needed? Cause in settings are no options to configure a Lan Connection......I think, you will need ipv4 settings for.....or it is done very simple and there is a simple script in the firmware of pro devices? Anyone knows? Im searching the internet, but found nothing about......
Ah....and the reason for searching this device is: if you want to use a bluetooth keyboard, you'll have problema with bluetooth connection all the time....I figure out, pairing it new every time is better.....but at this device, wlan an bluetooth must be going over the same modem or hardware, cause if you use both, wlan and bluetooth for keyboard, you got massive trouble with internet connection and sometimes you cant connect to your access point.....really ****.....I try an usb keyboard , wireless from Microsoft with pad....and this works perfect. ...but then, you can't charge anymore.....with any hubs or something, no chance, and all older devices wont work.....damned.....does anyone have a solution for the bluetooth trouble? I try the bluetooth fix apps also,they help a but for bluetooth problems but not for the wlan disaster....whats the reason for ? The radio?......wil be happy for any answers.....
you running kit kat or?
After seen the spec and it probably wont work. ET-UP900 need USB 3.0 port and Note 2014 only have USB 2.0 port. Maybe some kind of USB 3 to USB 2 adapter might work.
The USB 3.0 Port is just for charging, for example with a wall plug...
sent from htc one...
I'm thinking it's more of an issue with drivers or kernel ....
That's why I'd love to hear from someone with KK installed
Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) should work!
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Does anyone knows, if the original Samsung LAN/USB Hub ET-UP900 will work with this tablet [Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition)]?
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Does it work on the Note 10.1 2014? Yes!
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Answer at http://www.amazon.com/Does-work-Not...m_cd_ql_tlc_al?_encoding=UTF8&asin=B00J2N0GB4
thanks mate!
Really hope the info is legit
considering on ordering one now
Will let you know form firsthand exp when I get it
D
Just got my brand new official Samsung USB lan/Hub. And..... it doesn't work. The usb part of it seems to wok ok, but it doesn't detect ethernet. The user manual wants me to go into the settings --> more networks-- Ethernet connections... BUT I have no such setting
planing on playing around for a little while longer, but sorry to say lads, it doesn't seem to work.
suggestions?
Seems that I atleast have hit a wall with regards to getting this to work. Anyone have any bright ideas? or dark ideas for that mater??
Anyone actually managed to get this to work?
Ok, guys.....i think, you mean the adapter for Note pro? I got it, and it works. .... first, i bought this, cause it was the only USB adapter, that charge and using usb at the same time with p600........... and then i try to get Ethernet work. ...... the thing is, you have to know some things about ip4 connections, this is a kind different to wifi connections. ...... but i can offer you good news, the adapter works. The thing is, the firmware of p600/605 isn't modified to say the apps, they can connect to Internet with ethernet. ..
With the Adapter, the connection works, if you look to your router, you will find your device in Lan network. ......
What you need, are two things. ..... first, the app "ethernet" from play store (need root), that gives your device the right ip address, subnet mask and the gateway. .... (you don't have to do anything, just start the app, and press "enable")...... and the second one ist xposed framework and the module "hack connectivity", this little tool will say all apps to listen also to Ethernet Routing, not only wifi....... for me, this ,works like a charm, if i come to office, i plug the adapter in, with a wireless keyboard usb plug, Lan connected and also a cable to charge my note 3........ than i just enable the ethernet app, and change keyboard to my own for external keys (external keyboard helper), and that's all, so i have Lan Internet (4 times faster than wifi), have connection to my pc, and a external keyboard and mouse. ..... that's perfect. ....
If I'm finished, i plug the adapter off, and disable ethernet app, it changes automatically to wifi. ........
For generally information : Android already have ethernet drivers enabled from source, also in Samsung firmware, eth0 is working, the thing is, the apps are just programmed to listen to Wifi only. ....... don't know why, cause it's just one simple parser line to get this working.....
OK, on a mobile, it's not so interesting to havea Lan connection, but on a tablet, this will really good and fast. ....
Try this and habe fun. ... but i don't understand, why Samsung have the pins of the 10.1 204 so stupid organized, that all docking stations and usb adapters don't work with charging and usb at same time. .... the note 3 Multimedia Dock will not be detected as a dock. ....... that's so stupid. ....... shame on Samsung. ... if this was my company, i will fire the engineers at the same day if they make such a ****..........
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atonal said:
Ok, guys.....i think, you mean the adapter for Note pro? I got it, and it works. .... first, i bought this, cause it was the only USB adapter, that charge and using usb at the same time with p600........... and then i try to get Ethernet work. ...... the thing is, you have to know some things about ip4 connections, this is a kind different to wifi connections. ...... but i can offer you good news, the adapter works. The thing is, the firmware of p600/605 isn't modified to say the apps, they can connect to Internet with ethernet. ..
With the Adapter, the connection works, if you look to your router, you will find your device in Lan network. ......
What you need, are two things. ..... first, the app "ethernet" from play store (need root), that gives your device the right ip address, subnet mask and the gateway. .... (you don't have to do anything, just start the app, and press "enable")...... and the second one ist xposed framework and the module "hack connectivity", this little tool will say all apps to listen also to Ethernet Routing, not only wifi....... for me, this ,works like a charm, if i come to office, i plug the adapter in, with a wireless keyboard usb plug, Lan connected and also a cable to charge my note 3........ than i just enable the ethernet app, and change keyboard to my own for external keys (external keyboard helper), and that's all, so i have Lan Internet (4 times faster than wifi), have connection to my pc, and a external keyboard and mouse. ..... that's perfect. ....
If I'm finished, i plug the adapter off, and disable ethernet app, it changes automatically to wifi. ........
For generally information : Android already have ethernet drivers enabled from source, also in Samsung firmware, eth0 is working, the thing is, the apps are just programmed to listen to Wifi only. ....... don't know why, cause it's just one simple parser line to get this working.....
OK, on a mobile, it's not so interesting to havea Lan connection, but on a tablet, this will really good and fast. ....
Try this and habe fun. ... but i don't understand, why Samsung have the pins of the 10.1 204 so stupid organized, that all docking stations and usb adapters don't work with charging and usb at same time. .... the note 3 Multimedia Dock will not be detected as a dock. ....... that's so stupid. ....... shame on Samsung. ... if this was my company, i will fire the engineers at the same day if they make such a ****..........
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Could you post a model number for the Note Pro adapter? I have been looking through Google and went to the Samsung site. I can not find it.
Sent from my SM-N900V
It is calles LAN/USB Hub ET-UP900.....
where can I find the module: hack connectivity?
Hallo Jaytronics
What you need, are two things. ..... first, the app "ethernet" from play store (need root), that gives your device the right ip address, subnet mask and the gateway. .... (you don't have to do anything, just start the app, and press "enable")...... and the second one ist xposed framework and the module "hack connectivity", this little tool will say all apps to listen also to Ethernet Routing, not only wifi.......
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I was wondering, where I can find the modul: hack connectivity? I was locking on the modules... I did not found it.... Can you tell me where it is...? and its exact name?
Thanks
I got this ET-UP900 adapter working with a SM-C115 by compiling a custom kernel. If you add the right drivers you can probably run use it with most devices.
During the build process of the kernel you run "make menuconfig". Here you select "Device Drivers" > "Network Device Support" > "USB Network Adapters". Include the "Multi-purpose USB Networking Framework" and "SMSC LAN95XX base USB 2.0 10/100 ethernet devices". If you add those as module you got to load them with "insmod mii.ko; insmod usbnet.ko; insmod smsc95xx.ko" in this order.
My current problem with this is that the device is not carging through the adapater. I guess there is another driver or option missing but I am still looking into this.
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Ok, guys.....i think, you mean the adapter for Note pro? I got it, and it works. .... first, i bought this, cause it was the only USB adapter, that charge and using usb at the same time with p600........... and then i try to get Ethernet work. ...... the thing is, you have to know some things about ip4 connections, this is a kind different to wifi connections. ...... but i can offer you good news, the adapter works. The thing is, the firmware of p600/605 isn't modified to say the apps, they can connect to Internet with ethernet. ..
With the Adapter, the connection works, if you look to your router, you will find your device in Lan network. ......
What you need, are two things. ..... first, the app "ethernet" from play store (need root), that gives your device the right ip address, subnet mask and the gateway. .... (you don't have to do anything, just start the app, and press "enable")...... and the second one ist xposed framework and the module "hack connectivity", this little tool will say all apps to listen also to Ethernet Routing, not only wifi....... for me, this ,works like a charm, if i come to office, i plug the adapter in, with a wireless keyboard usb plug, Lan connected and also a cable to charge my note 3........ than i just enable the ethernet app, and change keyboard to my own for external keys (external keyboard helper), and that's all, so i have Lan Internet (4 times faster than wifi), have connection to my pc, and a external keyboard and mouse. ..... that's perfect. ....
If I'm finished, i plug the adapter off, and disable ethernet app, it changes automatically to wifi. ........
For generally information : Android already have ethernet drivers enabled from source, also in Samsung firmware, eth0 is working, the thing is, the apps are just programmed to listen to Wifi only. ....... don't know why, cause it's just one simple parser line to get this working.....
OK, on a mobile, it's not so interesting to havea Lan connection, but on a tablet, this will really good and fast. ....
Try this and habe fun. ... but i don't understand, why Samsung have the pins of the 10.1 204 so stupid organized, that all docking stations and usb adapters don't work with charging and usb at same time. .... the note 3 Multimedia Dock will not be detected as a dock. ....... that's so stupid. ....... shame on Samsung. ... if this was my company, i will fire the engineers at the same day if they make such a ****..........
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I have a Samsung Galaxy Tab 3 10" P5200. I don't want to go buying this adapter and its not compatible with it so do you think it can work?
Hi atonal
Thanks for you information!!!
I have some Questions:
I tried all of this buttons, but... nothing... Perhabs I have the false Module???
Can you send me an Link, where I could download the-you-mentioned-Modul???
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first, the app "ethernet" from play store (need root), that gives your device the right ip address, subnet mask and the gateway. .... (you don't have to do anything, just start the app, and press "enable")
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a) Ethernet app is funcioning! Super
atonal said:
...... and the second one ist xposed framework and the module "hack connectivity", this little tool will say all apps to listen also to Ethernet Routing, not only wifi....... for me, this ,works like a charm...
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b) hack connectivity ("Service, 1.4"? I gues?)
The modul showes me three categories:
Refresh-> Refresh-button
Hack-> Wifi, Mobile and Desactivate-Button
traces->Activatea and Desactivate-Button
atonal said:
For generally information : Android already have ethernet drivers enabled from source, also in Samsung firmware, eth0 is working, the thing is, the apps are just programmed to listen to Wifi only. ....... don't know why, cause it's just one simple parser line to get this working.....
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Perhabs you know somebody who could know how to change the source or direct in the app the connetcion-way??
Once more Thank you!

RAVPower FileHub (RP-WD02)

The RAVPower FileHub (RP-WD02) seems to pitch 3 major features: WiFI Router, Media Sharing and Power Bank. I tested these main features, and as you can see below the device seems to do what it advertises.
- Media Sharing
I loaded a few different MP4 movies on my FileHub (microSD card) and started to stream from other devices, adding one at a time but keeping the prior device still running. I also chose a different video for each device. As a side note, I was able to copy a file directly from a USB thumb drive to the microSD card and the transfer was handled by the FileHub itself.
Devices:
NOTE: FileHub was connected (via wireless) to my home router for internet access.
1) Xbox 360 connected directly to my Linksys router and access the FileHub (via DLNA).
2) Laptop connected to the FileHub via wireless..
3) Nexus 7 connected to the FileHub via wireless.
4) Moto X connected to the FileHub via wireless.
The only time devices 2,3 and 4 had any sort of hiccup was when another devices was first starting to load a movie but it would smooth out quickly. Once the movies were all playing, the 3 devices (#2, #3 and #4 all connected directly to the FileHub via wireless) had no problem streaming 3 different videos at the same time. Device #1 had the most issues but it wasn’t directly connected to the FileHub via wireless -- it was going through another device (older Linksys router) which is likely part of the reason it had issues. Once I stopped devices 2-4, the Xbox (device #1) played the movie with no problem again.
I consider the above a “stress” test, normal use (one or two devices) shouldn’t be a problem at all especially if you connect via wireless directly to the FileHub. I didn't test MP3s or anything else -- if it can handle multiple movie streams, I am sure music / other files aren't an issue.
- WiFi Router / AP / Bridge
I connected the FileHub device directly (via ethernet cable) to my home wifi (Linksys router). Next, I used the Ookla Speedtest.net application on my Nexus 7 tablet and did 3 tests on my home wifi, and 3 test on the filehub. The download speeds, upload speeds and ping time were all within the same variance so the FileHub had no noticeable impact.
In addition to connecting to an Ethernet network, the FileHub can connect to a wireless network that way any devices connected to the FileHub via wireless can still have a connection to the Internet. If you travel this could be a useful way to setup your own wireless network in a hotel.
One thing I did notice, there isn’t really an option to set this up as a true wireless access point where it simply acts as a media converter so that you can connect your wireless device to a wired network. This device always acts as a router/AP combo, so your wireless clients are on an internal (10.10.10.X by default) network. If this device truly could act just as an access point, your wireless client would pick up an IP address from whatever network was on the other side (for my Linksys it would be a 192.168.1.X address). While this may not matter for the average user, I figure I would point it out. I contacted RAVPower support to see if maybe I am missing something.
- PowerBank
Not much to test here, it acts as a 6000 mAh powerbank. Once interesting feature that I didn’t find in the manual, if the device was off and I gave the power button a short press the battery light would turn on and the device would act as a PowerBank without the other capabilities. This could be useful if you want to charge your phone without the device itself being on (which I would assume reduces the power consumption).
Overall I am impressed so far, but am still playing with the device. If you have any questions, or can think of any tests I should consider, please let me know.
Hello.
Thanks for your review.
It's not mentioned ,but it's compatible with microSDXC , it work with my SanDisk Ultra 64 Go UHS-I SDSDQUA-064G-U46A :good:
Hi, nice review
I have a question :
What transfer speeds do you get when copying from a sd-card to a USB connected device? My wd02 takes about 10 min to copy 1 Gb...
Thanks for answering
dope649 said:
Hi, nice review
I have a question :
What transfer speeds do you get when copying from a sd-card to a USB connected device? My wd02 takes about 10 min to copy 1 Gb...
Thanks for answering
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I am no longer using a standard firmware (don't ask lol) so it really wouldn't be good for me to compare times. Are you doing the internal microSD to USB? Should be quick (in theory) since it is all on the same device.
cookiemonster79 said:
I am no longer using a standard firmware (don't ask lol)
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As the latest (2.000.014) fw seems to have broken some things (compared to 2.000.002 which was preinstalled), I'm asking... Want to share something mouth-watering?
steve8x8 said:
As the latest (2.000.014) fw seems to have broken some things (compared to 2.000.002 which was preinstalled), I'm asking... Want to share something mouth-watering?
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Ah nothing too interesting, I think I had a copy of the 2.000.014 before it was released. What broke on it for you?
2.000.014 apparently preserved passwords set on 2.000.002 but I had to hard reset the device. After that, I found that the "passwd" command would modify /etc/shadow while the "telnetd" would continue using /etc/passwd contents. Bad busybox?
Trying to get my hands on the GPL release now (if such a thing exists).
Shouldn't there be a .030 (for the WD01 there was a .014 too before)? How to get older fw versions?
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2.000.014 apparently preserved passwords set on 2.000.002 but I had to hard reset the device. After that, I found that the "passwd" command would modify /etc/shadow while the "telnetd" would continue using /etc/passwd contents. Bad busybox?
Trying to get my hands on the GPL release now (if such a thing exists).
Shouldn't there be a .030 (for the WD01 there was a .014 too before)? How to get older fw versions?
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I wish they did a changelog for updates, I will see if I have an older copy somewhere on one of my drives but other than that I don't know how to get them.
cookiemonster79 said:
I wish they did a changelog for updates, I will see if I have an older copy somewhere on one of my drives but other than that I don't know how to get them.
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I'll try to get in touch with them (Twitter? E-mail?) to get access to older FW and GPL sources. Over-optimistic, perhaps.
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I'll try to get in touch with them (Twitter? E-mail?) to get access to older FW and GPL sources. Over-optimistic, perhaps.
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What are you trying to get from the old one? Just curious. I haven't tested the new one much is it broken?
As setting the root password did work with the old FW, and I first took it over to the new one successfully (only to lose it to a factory reset), there clearly must be a difference. I know I cannot easily replace the new busybox with the old one while keeping the rest of the FW, but having the option to downgrade (for science) is somewhat appealing.
Whoa! This thing is super neat! Thanks for the heads up and review!
Few Questions...
I just got one of these and am trying to bend it to my whims. Running into a few problems, though...
1) I can't change the device's IP address to something in the 192.168.0.xxx range. If it could be done, this would ease the issue you mentioned of it not acting as a 'true' router, since it would at least be issuing IP Addresses on the right subnet as the rest of my network. I tried changing the DHCP settings, but that resulted in a hard reset since it wouldn't let me also change the IP address.
2) I'm not sure if this is specific to Xperia devices or not, but in the Storage settings, there's a feature for 'Remote Share' that basically mounts a network share as a folder in the Android file system, so it can be treated as 'local'. I've not had any luck setting the FileHub to play nice with this as of yet. It'd be great to be able to shift my music collection to the FileHub and still have it playable in the usual music players.
3) Most of the time I'm using this on-the-go. How can I maintain my LTE data connection while simultaneously connecting to the FileHub via WiFi?
4) You mentioned not using stock firmware... Where can I find other options? The built-in stuff is servicable, but limited. Might even remedy the IP Address config issue.
While I probably cannot answer your questions, I have another one myself: is there a way to add a USB 3G stick to make the device aware of mobile data networks? (I haven't found any confirmation it could, only a single hint that the WD01 wasn't able - with an older fw.)
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While I probably cannot answer your questions, I have another one myself: is there a way to add a USB 3G stick to make the device aware of mobile data networks? (I haven't found any confirmation it could, only a single hint that the WD01 wasn't able - with an older fw.)
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I just tried a 3G/4G stick on my Filehub, and while it powered up and appared to obtain a signal, there's really no way for the FileHub to know it's there or what to do with it. Good Idea, though... That'd be a great feature for them to add in the future!
Before connecting, run "lsusb" and "lsmod" as root. Repeat after having connected the USB device. The USB id may give us an idea about what will be needed; I'd not expect support for 3G devices in the kernel, and we might need GPL code from RAV before we can modify the system accordingly.
I vaguely remember a report of attempts to run OpenWRT on the device, but cannot find it anymore. (Was it real at all?)
Nice review. I just purchased this handy little device and put it through some heavy usage for testing and it works great. Only thing I cannot figure out is how to update the firmware or if there even is an update for the firmware. I am currently running on ver 2.000.002. Could anyone else confirm if this is the latest and if not how to update it? TIA
I have 2.000.014 on my WD02 (installed from a FW file d/l'd from RAV), but haven't seen any advantage. If I had access to a flashable 2.000.002 firmware I'd certainly go back!
Note that in the WD01 thread, someone reported a .030 (?) FW that even broke telnet access. RAV is trying to close holes that have been used to improve the device, it seems.
TesseractE said:
I just got one of these and am trying to bend it to my whims. Running into a few problems, though...
1) I can't change the device's IP address to something in the 192.168.0.xxx range. If it could be done, this would ease the issue you mentioned of it not acting as a 'true' router, since it would at least be issuing IP Addresses on the right subnet as the rest of my network. I tried changing the DHCP settings, but that resulted in a hard reset since it wouldn't let me also change the IP address.
2) I'm not sure if this is specific to Xperia devices or not, but in the Storage settings, there's a feature for 'Remote Share' that basically mounts a network share as a folder in the Android file system, so it can be treated as 'local'. I've not had any luck setting the FileHub to play nice with this as of yet. It'd be great to be able to shift my music collection to the FileHub and still have it playable in the usual music players.
3) Most of the time I'm using this on-the-go. How can I maintain my LTE data connection while simultaneously connecting to the FileHub via WiFi?
4) You mentioned not using stock firmware... Where can I find other options? The built-in stuff is servicable, but limited. Might even remedy the IP Address config issue.
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1) If the wifi network you are connecting the filehub to is on the 192.168.0.xx range then your internal network probably can't be the same because basically the filehub would have two networks on two interfaces.
2) I think that is an Xperia setting I don't recall seeing it on my devices.
3) As far as I know you can't since putting it on wifi makes it use that for network connectivity.
4) Best you can do is try to find the older firmware which you can actually telnet to and make config changes on if you know how.
Re older FW: Can someone try and get RAV to publish all of their FW releases, *plus* the overdue GPL pack they have to provide?

Need help with reverse tethering

I have a Pumpkin model KD-C0109-US-A single DIN RK3188 800x600. I would like to use my cell phone to provide a network connection to my HU through USB reverse tethering. The cell phone connects and shows itself as tethered but the HU does not show any network connection. Pumpkin customer service says that reverse tethering is not supported. They suggest using wi-fi hotspot from the cell. I would prefer hard wire through USB so that the phone would be powered while using it as an internet source. The reverse tethering apps have not worked. Is there a firmware upgrade or other work around that will un-cripple the HU and make reverse tethering possbile? Has anyone had success with this? I would also be interested in learning about tried-but-failed approaches to avoid repeating mistakes.
I am really perplexed. The following is the "explanation" I received from the reseller of my unit:
"Thank you for your message/email!
Sorry for replying you late due to different timezone and working time!
Actually as you can see, this is the car radio player, not cellphone, so the Android system was deep modified by the factory, which is already do not have the USB tethering function, cause the USB on the radio is only for USB reading and 3G USB dongle to plug. It is not support that any more. I hope you can understand. If you need to charge your phone, could you mind use your original car USB port to charge it?
Best Regards!"
Does this make sense? Reverse tethering seems to be a common thing in android as in
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2287494
Help!!
Good luck with this..
Not as easy as you may think, and as that thread points out, there are many that can't get it going on multiple units..
I think you are up against an Android coding layering problem in general.. As I have used reverse tethering alot on windows based machines, as in laptops to throw internet out to rooms that have been to far out of range of signal.. And or hotel rooms so I can use a tablet.. But those setups are using dedicated software that is adding another set of drivers into the windows operation system and setting up a new communication set..
So as been pointed out by your supplier..they don't have the necessary "modules" loaded into thier Android base to service this want..
Not saying that it wouldn't be impossible to implement via scripts.... But there will be a bit of work that needs to be done..
i wouldn't mind do this aswell i have the same headunit (well mine is eonon but yeah)

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