SMS is received by recipients mutiple times - Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking

Hi all,
Since I upgraded my T-Mobile ppc to 4.01.16 ENG Rom and 6.25.02 Radio, I have had bad experience on SMS sending. The sms I send is received by the recipients twice or trice and I am sure that I am charged with the extra sms. I have been thinking that my new radio version is not compatible to where I am (I am currently in Asia-Pacific/Philipines which uses GSM900/1800 but I am going to and from the US and Phil so I also need my device to be compatible with US network). I have been researching this forum and found out that radio downgrade is not possible and very dangerous for my device.
But now, I think I have found the real culprit. I always send messages through the 'mail' software (today panel and tap on 'no unread messages' part), of course through SMS. When I send the SMS and close the 'mail' software before before the message is sent (that is before the message sent icon on top appears), SMS is sent mutiple times. But when I wait the message sent icon to appear before I close the 'mail' software, the SMS is only sent once. I am very sure of this for I have observed this for quite some time already.
Is there an app or something to correct this? I need help for I am charged at least twice or trice for the SMS I send. Thanks a lot.

Try this method: Open Contacts, select the name and tap & hold on the name and select "Send SMS". Sometimes the s/w doesn't get the aknowledgement from the GSM network so it attempts to send it again.

Thanks Biso. Can you recommend a better software other than the 'mail' default program? Or can I make the mail program 'unclosable' so that it will on be minimized. I'm using SPB Pocket Plus so the 'x' button is closing the apps. I just want hte mail program to be also minimized ang the rest are closed. Thanks

Hi,
I don't prefer any other mail program than the standard one especially if you are connected to MS Exchange server. It's fully integrated with it, but for POP3 mail I heard that nPOPw is very good http://www.pocketpcfreewares.com/en/index.php?soft=839
As for minimizing the mail s/w, even tho I don't see any difference between closing and minimizing (except for on line s/w like MSN messenger), but with each task manager (I use Magic Button) you should find an option to assign the current window to "Keep Alive" flag. Then the x button will only minimize it (switch to the next window or Today if all off).

Thanks Biso. Just found out that SPB Pocket Plus has a 'minimize by gesture' feature which you can add to list the program you just want to minimize. And it works, when I just minimize the 'mail' software the sms I send is only sent once (recipient only receive it once). Thanks a lot. Guess this is a bug on T-Mobile WM2003 Rom?

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Text Messages in Windows Mobile 6

Hi guys,
I have a question about the text messages (SMS). When you receive an SMS, it will show you the date when the SMS was received but it DOES NOT show you what time the SMS was received. Is there ANY way to turn this on?
So besides the date, I also want to know on what time I receive my SMS messages.
denizg said:
Hi guys,
I have a question about the text messages (SMS). When you receive an SMS, it will show you the date when the SMS was received but it DOES NOT show you what time the SMS was received. Is there ANY way to turn this on?
So besides the date, I also want to know on what time I receive my SMS messages.
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It shows me the date AND the time on mine, I don't know why it doesn't on your device.
Where does it show the time then? All I see is:
- Name
- Text itself
- Date
- Size of message in Kb
Perhaps my version on WM6 is a bit messed up. You prolly have to Official WM6?
On the list view the time is not displayed, but when you open the individual messages it is.
(Official WM6 ROM)
noticed the side bar? it has extra space going up, when you push the dpad upward it shows the details. maybe they thought it would save some space, because no everybody wants to see the full detail. But I agree with you, its nice to see the date and time, so just scroll upward and you'll see it.
nato said:
noticed the side bar? it has extra space going up, when you push the dpad upward it shows the details. maybe they thought it would save some space, because no everybody wants to see the full detail. But I agree with you, its nice to see the date and time, so just scroll upward and you'll see it.
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Dear God, thank you guys. I feel SO stupid now... how could I not have seen this? Damn noob mistake. Thanks again
Hi there,i'm looking for a solution about an sms bug i have noticed on my P3600(udk 3.0 ITA WM6 FE)
When i receive an sms and i go to my sms list i see that the system orders them according the time/date of the sender and not the time/date of my p3600.
That means that if i receive an sms now from my girlfriend who lives in Australia(8hours time difference from Italy where i live)and then i receive other sms from my contacts from Italy, the list shows first the "australian" sms and then the "italian" ones!
Is there any solution to fix this bug or it's just that my P3600 gives priority to my girlfriend's sms???
Another issue: does somebody knows who to see the photo of the contact when you receive a sms?
In palm os there is a new app called picturesms but I don't know an app with this functionality for wm.
rodalfa said:
Another issue: does somebody knows who to see the photo of the contact when you receive a sms?
In palm os there is a new app called picturesms but I don't know an app with this functionality for wm.
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If the person who sends you a sms is in your contact list and if you have assigned a photo to that contact, when you open that sms, you should see his photo. It works automatically on my device, no more app needed.
rodalfa said:
Another issue: does somebody knows who to see the photo of the contact when you receive a sms?
In palm os there is a new app called picturesms but I don't know an app with this functionality for wm.
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When your using outlook, you assign pictures for every contact, when you sync it to your pocketpc it automatically shows the pictures, no extra software needed, saves a lot of space. of course you need to open the sms in order for you to see the picture, same goes with email etc.
but if you really want a 3rd party software try googling photo contacts.

SMS problem: Can't send sms larger than 160 chars.

Hi all
I have come across the problem that I can't send SMS larger than 160 chars after I upgraded to the "official" WM6. I am using the Swedish version on a HTC TyTN. When I try and send a message that is larger than the 160 chars i get a message saying (loosely translated from Swedish) Can't send SMS. After I click ok I also get notification on the bottom left part of the sms window saying synchronization error.
Has anyone else got the same problem and if so have anyone found a solution.
/Nicklas
Just to clarify...
I take it to mean that you could sent sms that were over 160 characters before you upgraded?
Because most of the providers that I know don't allow that.
Found something on the forums about this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293505
Hope it helps.
Yes I could since the SMS program automatically sends the large SMS in smaller parts.
Say I make an SMS with 203 chars then it would send it as 2 sms, one with the first 160 chars and then a second sms with 43 chars and when the SMS arrive to the recieving phone it will be put together if that phone is capable of that. Now days I think all phones can do this. Or at least should be able to do this but after the upgrade to WM6 this fails on my TyTN.
i guess the previous version of the SMS application was allowing what is called multiparts message, meaning it send as many SMS of 160 car regarding your text lengh but with no guarantee that the reviever will have them in the proper order
usually SMS is limited to 160 car
larsuck: Thanx for the link but nothing in that helped.
So if anyone else have any idea I would much appreciate it because it is a bit frustrating that it worked with wm5 and not with wm6 so far
Have you tried to take a look at DiStefano's Cab Collection? There is an Palm SMS application. You can try it with this application if it is possible on you're device. Its a small test!
Good luck
Well I found out how to fix it.
I did this:
Once upgraded settings need to be changed to ensure desired operation, on the device go to start>settings>connections(tab)>USB to PC, untick the box (Enable advanced network functionality) then exit back to the today screen.
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??? Why would this have an effect on SMS limitations?
I don't know exactly why but what I did was that I hard reseted the unit and after that multipart sms worked as it should. Then I connected the usb cable and ActivSync wanted to reconfigure the settings so I went through the wizard. One of the questions I get is if I want to let internet calls and mms to be sent when the unit is connected and I choose that. Then I let the unit sync with my PC.
After that I couldn't send multipart sms again until I unticked the Enable advanced network functionality box
If anyone knows why this is please enlighten me

Threaded SMS app that works properly?

I have tried the Palm ripped threader for wm6 which I love because of its integration in and just appealing user interface but it seems to have some severe problems. Sometimes after closing the program after sending a message the CommManager or other programs will also pop up behind the palm app and I will have to close them too. The worst part though is that it almost always sends duplicate previous messages. Currently I am using PocketCM for my contacts and sms messaging but it has drawbacks like trying to send a message to someone that isnt a contact.
So yeah, I would really like to find a text message threading app like the palm one but that doesnt send duplicate messages over and over again, any suggestions or am I SOL?
My vote - stick with Palm Messaging
I've been using the WM6 "Palm" messaging since I first converted to WM6 (and the previous version on WM5 too) and it's always worked flawlessly.
The duplicate messages problem is a known one with ANY of the text messaging systems on the phone. It occurs when the application is closed shortly after a message is sent, the phone thinks it didn't go so sends it again. To fix it, either add the palm messaging as an exception to your X-button task manager, or (as I do) simply press the OK button on the phone to minimise it rather than close it. That should also avoid your CommManager popping up too.
Never used PocketCM, so don't know if/how that might be interfering with it though.
Good luck.
Extreme Text
This is not a Freeware, but it works very well, and uses the Messaging Inbox. There is an update due out in about to weeks where he is planning to implement a lot of the request made in the forum. Below is the link to the authors website.
http://www.birdsoft.biz/extremetext.htm
Confused Stu said:
I've been using the WM6 "Palm" messaging since I first converted to WM6 (and the previous version on WM5 too) and it's always worked flawlessly.
The duplicate messages problem is a known one with ANY of the text messaging systems on the phone. It occurs when the application is closed shortly after a message is sent, the phone thinks it didn't go so sends it again. To fix it, either add the palm messaging as an exception to your X-button task manager, or (as I do) simply press the OK button on the phone to minimise it rather than close it. That should also avoid your CommManager popping up too.
Never used PocketCM, so don't know if/how that might be interfering with it though.
Good luck.
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I found what you were talking about, it is the same application but a different [newer?] version. I have been using it about half the day so far and no reports yet of duplicate messages. I think you answered my question!!!

TP 2 - Bugs & Fixes Thread

Hi
I thought it would be a good idea to start this thread to report bugs in the TP 2 official ROM so that we may collectively be able to find solutions, and if not, at least bring to attention of HTC to fix in newer builds of their ROMs.
So I request you all to put down bugs you have discovered as also fixes in this thread. I will try my best to collate all into the first post....
Here are the ones I have discovered so far:
ALARM BUG
I set the alarm one day and turned it off the next. But it continues to ring every day at the same time even though the alarm settings show it as off.
EXCESS RAM USAGE
With TF3d 2, messaging, notes and contacts running, the TP 2 shows RAM usage at 81%. Wonder whats taking up so much memory.
DIALER BUG
At times when I am calling, the call status screen does not appear and it continues to show the dialer screen even after the call button has been pressed for a contact.
I am having an issue with downloading emails on my TP2.
Using exactly the same settings as I had on my kaiser (which still works), when I try to send and receive I get "Error synchronising" Cannot connect with current connection settings.
I have ensured my email account is set up identically, and the connection settings to T-Mobile are identical. Anyone else had this issue?
Bluetooth:
When using bluetooth (activesync and headset profile) the pda crashes sometimes. If the screen is on it won't shut down and no interaction with the phone is possible. When it's off it stays off. Funny thing is that the pda keeps working. Phone is runnig when I am called etc.
Ramsfan_Jim said:
I am having an issue with downloading emails on my TP2.
Using exactly the same settings as I had on my kaiser (which still works), when I try to send and receive I get "Error synchronising" Cannot connect with current connection settings.
I have ensured my email account is set up identically, and the connection settings to T-Mobile are identical. Anyone else had this issue?
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To answer my own question, this :-
[email protected]; said:
its something to do with their web proxy and only happens when you are connected to certain "bits" of tmobile.
To fix it, go to settings->all settings ->connections->connections->setup my proxy server-> and UNCHECK this network uses a proxy server to connect to the internet.
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seems to have fixed it....
Sometimes the + caracter of a phonenumber is removed by touchflo3d when sending a textmessage as descriped here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=522535
i have a problem with the alert tones. my tp2 either don't play or plays very softly the first second of any alert, reminder, or ringtones. anyone with the same problem?
I'm finding that when I send texts 1 out of every 3 doesn't get sent.
I get an 'Text cannot be sent' message. It's not my Sim card cause it was fine when I had it in the X1.
@home said:
I'm finding that when I send texts 1 out of every 3 doesn't get sent.
I get an 'Text cannot be sent' message. It's not my Sim card cause it was fine when I had it in the X1.
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mine fails most of the time if i reply through the messages tab but if i select all messages and reply from there it always works.
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jjturner said:
mine fails most of the time if i reply through the messages tab but if i select all messages and reply from there it always works.
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So does mine, so perhaps it's a touch flow bug rather than a phone fault.
these have nothing to do with htc touch pro2 itself dude!
it's about the rom you installed in it,so pls return to your technician to get a good rom!
it's like you have super good pc,but the windows xp you installed is crap,then your pc will always get this problem and that......
FYI: rom means: OS(wm 6.5 for example)+Radio(GSM etc)+Extrom(touchflo 3d etc)
SMS Status Report Bug
Hi,
I have a German (O2) htc touch pro 2 with the current original O2 ROM (WM6.1 CE OS 5.2.21048 (Build 21048.1.6.3), ROM: 1.19.207.1 (51489) GER)
My problem is that the phone will not receive or display the SMS status report sent by the provider when the recipient receives the sms.
When writing an SMS, I ensure that under message Options, there is a tick next to: "Request message delivery notification".
I wrote an SMS message to my own number on the TP2 and sent it off. The message promptly arrives, yet no status report from the provider arrives. I have tried this several times to various numbers.
The same SIM card in my XDA Orbit always displays a delivery notification from O2 when the recipient receives an sms. It is not a network problem.
As I have a multicard (more than one SIM card on the same number), I have been able to narrow down the problem as follows.
Messages sent from the phone do generate a status report. I set SMS delivery to my Orbit, and then sent an sms to my own number from the TP2. Both the message and the delivery report arrived on the Orbit.
When I set the network to send SMS messages to my TP2, and then send a message from my orbit, the message itself was delivered to the TP2, but not the status report!
This establishes that the German O2 network is OK, the TP2 can correctly send an SMS and request a Status report from the network. It can also receive normal SMS messages, but not the status report. No sign of it receiving anything, appears to ignore such status reports entirely.
Does anyone have a fix for this, short of flashing a different ROM on it.
I know that a new official WM 6.5 ROM is due to be released for the TP2 (but not so far). I am hoping someone here was a quick fix (missing registry entry, etc.) which can be applied to the current system as I write a lot of text messages and it is useful to know when they have arrived.
Regards
Peter
request delivery notification
i upgraded to the original WM6.5.. when replying to a text message through the new TouchFlo's threaded message look (not the one you get when going in from 'all messages' but the one you get when "clicking" on the message itfelf from the messages tab.), you can go to [Menu] - [Message Option] and there you have the option [reuest delivery notification].
i tick that and say done, send the message and i DO get the delivery notification. however when going back to this same message screen to reply to another message, that option will be unticked again.. i have to tick that option for EVERY single message that i reply to.. as i said sending a message from anywhere else has its own option and is saved correctly and always works..
i googled as much as i could but couldnt find anyone with the same problem :/

Niggly Problems - SMS and Contacts

I have had my TP2 on Orange UK for a while, recently upgraded to WM6.5, and have a couple of really frustrating problems:-
1. If an SMS message cannot be sent it goes into drafts and doesn't resend automatically. This is bad enough, but when I open it to try to resend it has my own mobile number as the recipient, so cannot simply press "send". The only way I can resend it is by selecting "menu" then "forward" and then re-entering the recipient. Unbelieveably frustrating!! Can anyone help please?
2. I'm a long time HTC WM user, and well used to the challenge of Phone contacts being difficult to navigate (however careful you may be when swiping the list, accidentally touching a contact for too long opens it, and when you press "Back" it takes you to the top of the list... this is rubbish!! I have about 300 contacts on my phone. On upgrading to 6.5 I now have a new "Contacts" icon in the start menu, which is obviously a different app. Its far more user friendly, better layout for my 50 yr old eyes and doesn't have the same issue of going "back", as pressing the "X" takes you back to where you were in the list. Is there any way you can use this as the default app for contacts in the phone menu?

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