i dont know if anyone ahs noticed this before. I had a xda 1 and the o2 car kit. i fitted a switch on the radio mute, and wired the kit,s speaker jacks into my stereo,s aux input. this allowed me to listen to wmp, or any other app. Then i bought an xda2 and everything went wrong. so i decided to try sort it out.
My plan was to modify the car kit to accept the phone, and cut out a notch so that i could use the headset, and cut it up and wire it direct to my stereo,s aux input.
however, after i did the cradle mods, i had the phone sitting in, testing it. At this stage my kit was still wired as per my xda1. The phone works fine, including mute. Then, i tried wmp. As reported , there was no sound. I then plugged in my headset, whilst the xda was in the cradle, and IT WORKED!. Sound from the wmp went out via the car kit and into my aux input! I Bought a new2.5 jack, with no wires, and i just insert it, before cradling the phone and i have the exact same functionality as the xda1!...its really kool, as my Haicom gps works fine too. I havent tested Fonix, ie., does the mic work before u activate the phone, but im hopeful.
Now, my final problem is the charging issue, and id appreciate advice. My proposal is: to purchase an appropiate universal lapto car power adaptor,
To purchase a 9 pin lead, which will sit between the carkit and the cradle lead. Then all i have to do is patch the power adaptor into the 9 pin lead, deleting the original power. Will this work, and what size power adaptor will i need [v/curent], and whats the wiring mod?........id love to know if the headphone jack trick works on all kits/.....it may be posssible to buy and modify a jack plug so that it fits in wiyhout modifing the car kit....
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re the charging issue
ok..ive read all posts concerning this issue and there appears to be some confusion....can the original xda car kit supply enough current to satisfy an xda11 and wired haicom gps. Some posts imply that there is a wiring difference which makes the unit appear to be charging whilst there not, whilst some posts say its because the original unit can only supply 1 amp.......can someone please advise?
I gues you have to get the 2.5mm plug out when you leave the car in order to use the mic/speaker?
charging issue
ive just tried the unit in the car, both with and without the haicom connected. both times it said it was charging, but both times the battery level actually fell.....this indicates that there is a wiring difference between XDA2, in the charging cct. funny thing though is that the xda2 charged using a cheap cigarette lighter type charging lead....can anyone explain this?
must be the charging circuit. I found that even a 400mA charger is enough to charge the Himalaya.
My XDA II Car kit has a jack plug on the bottom, but if I use that no sound comes out. I'm assuming this takes audio out from the 22pin connector at the bottom of the XDA II.
When you say you've plugged a 2.5mm jack into your XDA you mean the socket on the actual XDA itself right? And that enables audio through the 22pin connector or does it just output audio through the jack?
My problem is now that I'm going to have to rip my (very expensive when I bought it) XDA II Car kit to pieces to put a 2.5mm jack into the bottom of the phone when it's in the car kit!
Is there nothing at all that anyone's got to force the XDA out of in-car mode or anything or is that completely hard-wired?
God this is annoying! Why is there always something wrong, even with the coolest gadget in the world!
I have the same problem.
It used to work with rom 1.03 (as I remember) but after an upgrade, the sound from MDA2 except phone call went through the build-in speaker.
HTC knows this problem, but dont do anything about it.
A conspiracy agains carkit mod'ing.
This issue is known since approx last april.
It MUST be the carkit:
XDA2/iMate carkit only supplies in-call phone audio via the carkit speaker
MDAII/Qtek2020/Yeti carkit supplies all audio via the carkit speaker (dis-advantage: It continuously mutes the radio when ie using TomTom, but that can be fixed by using an alternative radio-mute circuit/switch)
Both carkits only use the 22-pin bottom connector of the Himalaya to accomplish this.
Until now (afaik) no one has succeeded in finding a solution for this.
I wish I bought my carkit 2 month later, at that time the MDAII carkit was sold for approx 170 euros (compared to the 140 for the XDA2 carkit). The extra functionality is really worth the extra 30 euro.
Alternative radio-mute circuit/switch
@edsub
edsub said:
(dis-advantage: It continuously mutes the radio when ie using TomTom, but that can be fixed by using an alternative radio-mute circuit/switch)
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A few weeks ago I bought the MDAII-carkit and am still preparing to install it in my car. I will use it with Alturion navigation software, but expect that this will create the same proble as TomTom (constantly muting the radio).
Could you elaborate on the "alternative radio-mute circuit/switch". I.e. how to create it/where to buy it?
Thanks in advance, regards
Albondigas
You can buy an audio-mute box.
You place it between your car-speaker leads and connect the carkit audio out to it (mono or stereo).
As soon as the mute-box detects a signal on the carkit audio out, it switches the car-speaker from radio to carkit.
It seems to work quite well, but since it is based on detecting a signal an then switching, i can imaginge you lose frist 1 or 2 seconds of the carkit-out.
No idea how that works out with TomTom . . . .
XDA II Car Kit
eayuwna said:
Is there nothing at all that anyone's got to force the XDA out of in-car mode or anything or is that completely hard-wired?
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Check pin 19 of the plug wiring. This is the pin used to tell the XDA II it is in the car. When using the XDA II out of the car, in the Sync cradle etc... this pin is tied to ground.
I am about to experiment with making a car kit... If I have success with the audio, I will let you all know!
Recrem.
Audio mute with MDAII-Carkit
@edsub
Thanks, eDsuB, I get the principle and will look around where I could get the audio mute box.
And now I understand why Mocki in the german forum of ppc-welt inserted a one second 63 Hz tone at the beginning of the TomTom-audio files:
http://www.ppc-welt.info/community/showthread.php?t=40190&page=2&pp=50 (in german)
It would be embarrassing to miss the first three words of the message "in three kilometers turn right" :lol: .
How do you think about another solution on this forum and that is disconnecting pin 9 (orange/white) from the connector on the MDAII Carkit II. Apparantly that would also solve the problem with the permament mute of TomTom? See thread (it looks like you've been there also) http://www.ppc-welt.info/community/showthread.php?t=47131&page=1&pp=28 (in german).
Thanks very much,
Albondigas
I went in that forum a couple of times (especially when xda-developers was down), but since I have an XDAII/iMate carkit my problem is to get all audio thru the bottom connector . . . .
And even Mocki doenst have an answer . . .
Hi,
I'm after a loudspeaker device for my XDA II to use in the car whilst driving. I already have a cradle in the car (without a speaker) so my thoughts were that I could buy a bluetooth device. I have seen the Jabra P100 model (something like that) which is suppose to be quite good.
Has anybody got one of these or uses another device which will work.
Thanks.
xdaII dont support it
as in audio over bluetooth or A2DP as the profile is called
you can use a fm transmitter like belkin tunecast2
Handsfree speaker
Try www.jabra.com model SP100 Good luck
Hi, I have a Qtek S110 and a pre-installed phone car kit with bluetooth. The car kit is the usual one that comes with the new VW Passat. The craddle that came with the car for Nokia6100.
In the car manual says I that to activate bluetooth connection I first need to put mobile in the craddle and then press a couple of buttons. However, naturally QTEK doesn´t fit the craddle and I am not able to link the car kit with the phone.
Any suggestions? I´m getting desperate...
2W
Nokia CK7W?
Not much to go on here, but it sounds like you might have a Nokia CK7W car kit. In which case head on over to Nokia's web site and you can download the manual - it will walk you through pairing over Bluetooth.
bluetooth carkit
hi i f it is the nokia ck7w kit with the round wheel for control i too have experienced problems in the end i purchased a "parrot bluetooth kit" this works fine.
I am trying to work out the best way to set up the following in my car:
1 ) GPS on my Exec using bluetooth and TomTom 5.2
2 ) Bluetooth handsfree phone use using Motorola Razor
3 ) Car mount kit with charger.
I intend to have all of the above properly installed so no loose wires and mess.
From everything I have picked up from others the Brodit is the best solution for a mounting kit, so i will definately order that.
My dilema is I do not use the exec as a phone as it is just not pratical for that, so whilst i really like the idea of the Parrot CK 3300 I am not sure if it will pair with my Razor to use as a phone and the Exec for bluetooth GPS operation at the same time. If this is possible then it makes life easy. On the rare occaison that is use the Exec as a phone in the car it's own handsfree is pretty good any way. I also understand that the Parrot GPS uses the Exec speakers rather than the Car radio for the spoken directions so there is not need to have it access the car sound system.
The other alternative is to get the Parrot CK3100 for the handsfree car GSM bit , buy TT 5.2 then find a separate GPS receiver.
Does anyone either have experince of doing this or and idea of the best way.
Any suggestions here will be greatfully received.
Charlie
I've paired my CK3300 before with my XDA Exec and a Nokia 6600.
Used the XDA for GPS and the Nokia for handsfree.
When you pair the XDA with the CK3300 you get the list of devices on the Parrot and you get handsfree and serial port - You will only want to pair the serial port part of it. Just pair your RAZR as you would with a regular headset and it should all work.
Good luck!
numanoids
Thanks for the quick reply. That is very encouraging to hear. It really simplifies things if i can go down that route. I will order the bits on Monday, unless anyone has a better solution for this. Also can you confirm if the GPS spounds come throught he Exec speakers rather than the Car stereo?
Do you have any other advice about this?
Charlie
Yes the GPS sounds come through the exec and not the car kit.
Just trying to think if there is anything else you need to be aware of.......
It all should be pretty easy to be honest - just make sure when pairing the device that you use the advanced settings and choose pair with a windows ce device.
Just bought this car kit http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=109748 for my Qtek 2020i (Alpine)
Pretty comprehensive kit for the money. Comes with control box, speaker, mic, loom for connecting to car stereo system.
I was wondering if there was any way to put the audio of TOMTOM or media player through the car kit ?
I have read about the 10K resistor mod which i tried with another active holder i have but that didn't seem to work
I thought there may be a utility that could fool the PDA into thinking it is in a call and sending the audio through the car kit, but when in a call all other audio is muted.
Are there any other work arounds getting TOM TOM / media player to output through the car kit?
It has been suggested that upgrading the ROM may solve this problem but without knowing 100% I am reluctant to do this.
Inside the car kit the electronics are tiny surface mount stuff.
Is it possible to program a utility to do this???
Come of ye programmers, i'm sure plenty of people will pay for this.
I certainly would like to make a donation, when this site actually proves useful.
I was playing with the car kit again last night and found that one of the wires coming from the car kit chaged to 3.7V when switched on my a call!
I energised said wire and the relay clicked over in the car kit but still no sound from the 2020i, sound still coming out the PDA speaker!
AAARRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHH! :roll:
Anyone wanna buy a qtek 2020i, i gig stick, active cradle and tomtom europe installed, all you need is a bluetooth or RJ11 reciever and your away.
Unless someone can help with this little problem :?
At last sorted it! Yippee.
The 10K resistor worked a treat on this one, but not the last.
Once got the resister bit working just had to put a 3.7V feed down a certain green wire to switch the relay and have now got music blasting out the car kit.
Yeehaa
Nygie said:
At last sorted it! Yippee.
The 10K resistor worked a treat on this one, but not the last.
Once got the resister bit working just had to put a 3.7V feed down a certain green wire to switch the relay and have now got music blasting out the car kit.
Yeehaa
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What 10K resistor?? Any links, pictures how you did it would be much appreciated!
I have a Qtek 2020 who is only collecting dust since I got a new Qtek 9100.
Could be nice to at least use it as a MP3 player in my car.
Would the car kit fit on a Volvo S60? I think the car stereo have DIN connectors. I have 6 speakers. If your car have more than 2, do you hear music on all speakers, or only the front speakers?
The resistor thing is here http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Connectors
I don't have it wired in the car, it's still on the bench. It would be possible to put it to the car stereo through aux in if there is one.
I have come across a little snag tho, after 7 seconds approx the audio fades out to nothing! I am a little bamboozled.
I think something like this was mentioned in another thread!
A bit of digging to do, but i am loosing my patience with all this messing around with bodges.
Just tried again and it seems to work flawlessly!
We shall see, i'll get it installed and try it on a run!
The motorbike trials cometh!