Sending 2 Text messages when under 160 chars! - MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General

I have noticed a problem with my Blueangel, when writing a text message it tell me in the bottom left corner that it will be two messages, even when the counter is less than the 160 character limit.. I didn't think anything of it, and presumed it was just a bug in the counter, but I've now recieved my bill from O2, and the phone has indeed been sending 2 messages!
Anyone know a solution to this?
I'm using Rom 1.40 with Radio 1.10
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messaging>tools>options>accounts>text message>uncheck unicode when necessary...

Yup
Yup mine did/does it too. No idea why. It happens when you leave a ' (and other characters too but i forget which one's) character out of a word. So for example if you typed "youre" it would replce it with "you're" but the added ' reduces the max characters to 70.
I think it is something to do with the encoding microsoft is using for the character set. Obviously the autocorrect is using a character with longer encoding than it should be. (I'm studying character encoding for an exam as we speak! )
Anyway you can stop it doing it by going to Start -> Settings -> Input -> Word Completion and un-chcking the box "Replace text as you type".
Lewis

Actually guys,
This happens because of some character foreign character codes e.g. sometimes when doing an 'o' i get a 'oe' (but squashed together) ... those will cause the message to shorter. The same is also for using ` instead of '
Everytime I've encountered this I've just retyped it ... in actual fact, I'm using block recognizer because I'm an ex-Palm user and am now more familar with that so I rarely have these problems now.
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Vicer, I think you've got it bang on there!
messaging>tools>options>accounts>text message>uncheck unicode when necessary...
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Now I can't even reproduce it! Sweet as

JUST SEARCH, Just a few days ago i answered the same question!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=115656&highlight=#115656

Thanks Vicer, that seems to have done the trick!

its much better to turn off autocorrect found in your input module than turn off the Unicode in sms ..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=104479#104479
the bug is already been fix in WM5.0 but not in WM2003SE

Sorry to go off topic but since it's to do with different character sets, then I thought of asking my question here.
Does anybody know how to tweak pocket word (maybe registry) so that it can read a different character set i.e. Hebrew character set?

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SMS Problem with apostrophe ( ' )

Hey all,
I'm having a problem where when I am typing out a text message, it autocorrects certian words by adding a apostrophe between it. For example, when I type dont and then press space it autocorrects it to don't and from 160 character limit goes to 70 characters immediately (which means I have a limited amount of words allowed in the text message due to this). :x SO then I have to go between the word and delete the apostrophe between the words. :evil:
Has anyone encountered this problem? and/or Is there a work around to solve this problem :?:
Thanks in advance,
Sunny
You gotta turn the unicode off.....
Go to text msgs.
Then Tools
Then Options
Then the Accounts Tab
Then select Text msgs
Then un-tick 'Use Unicode where necessary'
Good luck
Thanks HPJ,
I'll give that a try, ok done!! & working brilliantly!!!! If anyone else has this problem do the above^^^^^! :wink:
Thanks again,
Sunny
no probs.....
took me ages before someone showed me how to do that.....the amount of money I wasted on texts......!

How to modify the registry in order to send more than 160 characters in SMS

Does anyone know what to add or remove or change in the registry to allow more than 160 characters on sending SMS ?
Thanks
this is a standard sms thing... you cant change how many characters to send in one message.. now you can type over 160 and your phone should display like 168/2 where the first number is characters and the 2nd number is how many sms' its going to send... and when it sends most newer phones will combine the 2 messages on the recieving device and it will display as 1
My O2 Xda Stealth shows as you described, however, it also gives me an error "Your Text Message cannot be sent". It works perfectly within 160 characteres (1/160) but as soon as you start with (2/320) shows the error when you hit SEND.
Any ideas ? Could you provide the Registry ?
Thanks
Maybe some restriction from your provider, I have O2 XDA Stealth too and I am sending longer messages without any problems...
Ok, thanks, let me go back an ask my Network provider to see if I have restriction.
shogunmark said:
this is a standard sms thing... you cant change how many characters to send in one message.. now you can type over 160 and your phone should display like 168/2 where the first number is characters and the 2nd number is how many sms' its going to send... and when it sends most newer phones will combine the 2 messages on the recieving device and it will display as 1
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This issue was a nightmare for me until I realized how to overcome with continuous efforts. In my case I use the arabizer and thus, I can send 160 char. in one shot (english) but when I change to arabic, the number of char. turns to 1/70 (i.e. max of 70 char. per shot).
Now, that wasn't the case always, I upgraded to one of the latest arabizer versions and surprisingly, everytime I wanted to send english sms it only allowed 70 char! I had no time to dig and find out why is this happening, though I crossed check between older cab files and new ones and found that among the difference was that the new one had two fonts files those are "tahoma" and when installed, voila the problem was solved.
The moral is it is not a standard SMS thing, it is something with localization characters. May be
This is not the case. The question if you can send full 160 characters or only 70 characters depends on the fact wheather you use ASCII or UNICODE. In case of use Arabizer or some special national characters (same for us here in CZ), you can send only 70 characters per one message, but then you can continue and you can see i.e. 75/2 and the longer message will be sent by 2 parts. But he cannot send more than one message at all...
In my case was the Network. For some reason there was a limitation on sending SMS. Network customer service did not resolve my case, I surfed in Internet and found some tricks for GSM networks.
Bottom line I just write down the following ##004#[SEND] and then I received a message from the network "Success" or something like this (don't recall). But it was enough to be able to send more than 160 characters (obviously the system splitted it in "n" numbers of SMS when you submit it)
Hope it could also work with other peoples

WM5-WM6 - Sending Text - predictive in To:

In WM5 when I wrote a text message to someone I could start to write the name of the person I was sending it to in the "To" field and then it would give me a list of people in my phone book which matched what I had typed so far.
I have now put on WM6 and it has XT9 on it. If I do the same now it does not present me with the list of people from the phone book, instead tries to do predictive text on it. I love all the rest of the place XT9 is active but this is one where I liked the way WM5 worked.
Is there a way to disable it for name entries into the To: field?
put a space after one or two letters
If you press space after a couple letters then it just puts a space in and waits for you to type the next word in, it does not then list a number of users who match those first few letters
on mine propose at least a name, you're right, not a list, but a namen yes
Hmm strange - I wonder if there is a XT9 setting somewhere which is causing this.

Quick Question.... about TXT messaging

WHy are text messages capped at 160 Characters?
whats the reasoning behind it? is it the maximum size that can be sent via a special radio signal? ive been wondering this ever since I had my blackberry storm... many moons ago
yep, cdma limitation
Came across this in another thread:
"Transmission of the short messages between SMSC and phone can be done through different protocols such as SS7 within the standard GSM MAP framework or TCP/IP within the same standard. Messages are sent with the additional MAP operation forward_short_message, whose payload length is limited by the constraints of the signalling protocol to precisely 140 bytes (140 bytes = 140 * 8 bits = 1120 bits). In practice, this translates to either 160 7-bit characters, 140 8-bit characters, or 70 16-bit characters. Characters in languages such as Arabic, Chinese, Korean, Japanese or Slavonic languages (e.g. Russian) must be encoded using the 16-bit UCS-2 character encoding (see Unicode). Routing data and other metadata is additional to the payload size."
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/technology/2009/05/invented-text-messaging.html
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bwcorvus said:
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/technology/2009/05/invented-text-messaging.html
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I was looking for this article a few days ago - someone at work had the same question and I knew I had read it straight from the inventor's mouth somewhere. Thanks!
thanks
yea.. i wonder if theres going to be a day when you can send more characters than just 160.. cmon.. all the technology that we have and only 160 Character Text??
Why are you writing a book and txting it..
I can barely read a sentence when I get txts, any larger than that and Im annoyed..
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upperkingjr said:
Why are you writing a book and txting it..
I can barely read a sentence when I get txts, any larger than that and Im annoyed..
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I find it less of an interruption to send SMS. Many people don't like it, especially older people. Probably because they don't understand how to use it. Email, SMS and phone call all have their place.
There are times and places that I can't answer the phone. A text is sending the information or question that can be answered sometimes at the recipient's leisure or calling them to ask one question is a waste of effort. Also, going through the trouble of calling voicemail or listening to is can be too distracting depending on where you are. SMS is great if you're in a place that you have to have the phone completely silent, yet can still communicate.
Many times people are busy and can't talk on the phone. Okay, so I just called you and you said you couldn't talk. I have to call again to leave a voicemail. I just disturbed you twice just to ask or tell you something.
Email is good too for long ones but most people check it on a computer and there's no telling when that might be. SMS goes right through.

Limited number of SMS characters when typing in another language - issue!!!

Ok, this is so weird. Had this problem on Android 4.0.2 and it's still here in 4.0.4.
As soon as I start typing in my language (I'm Roumanian), using any 3-rd party keyboard, I get a limited number of SMS characters.
When I type in English I find no problem. I get the 167 characters normal for a SMS message.
I attached two screenshots to show you what I'm talking about.
Does anyone have an answer? What should I do?
I cant see your attached image (the server is blocked here) but I have this same problem writing in portuguese. It is because of the encoding of the accents. As soon as you include an accent the encoding of the entire message changes and the message limit is reduced.
juliano_q said:
I cant see your attached image (the server is blocked here) but I have this same problem writing in portuguese. It is because of the encoding of the accents. As soon as you include an accent the encoding of the entire message changes and the message limit is reduced.
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Thanks for taking the time to answer. I even tried 3-rd party SMS apps and still I get only 70 characters out of the normal 167. Is this an issue that Google overlooked?
Edit: It seems that Apple users are experiencing the same issue.
"This is only an issue for non-English speaking countries... That's why this is not a big deal for the North-Americans that (comprehensively) sometimes simply don't understand what are we talking about...
In any mobile Phone (iPhone included), when you write a SMS using special characters like "ç","á","é","í","ó","ú","ñ","ä", etc, the SMS are limited to only 70 characters instead of 160 characters because a extended encoding is necessary! So, you pay 3x the price of an SMS if you write 160 characters (it will send 3 SMS: 70+70+20). Besides that, the risk of the SMS not being delivered is higher because it is actually sending 3 SMS at once and sometimes it gets broken in the way.
So, to solve this issue, there is a feature in any Nokia mobile phone almost for 10 YEARS (!!!) called: "SMS Extended Character Set": ON/OFF
If turned ON, it uses extended character set with 70 characters per SMS and the destination Phone gets all the special characters: "ç","á","é","í","ó","ú","ñ","ä"
If it is turned OFF: the phone allows to write special characters, with 160 characters per SMS, but automatically converts the special characters to their basic equivalents "c","a","e","i","o","u","n","a" when sending the SMS.
... It is amazing how Apple is 10 years behind other mobile manufacturers in this matter... Maybe because Nokia is originally from Finland (where they use special characters and experienced the issue) while Apple is from the USA, where they naturally (and sadly) don't recognize this as a issue.
Imagine if you send 1000 SMS in a week and you have to pay them (many people pay them)... You have to be very careful not to introduce any special character otherwise you pay 3x the money!"

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