Ok, this is so weird. Had this problem on Android 4.0.2 and it's still here in 4.0.4.
As soon as I start typing in my language (I'm Roumanian), using any 3-rd party keyboard, I get a limited number of SMS characters.
When I type in English I find no problem. I get the 167 characters normal for a SMS message.
I attached two screenshots to show you what I'm talking about.
Does anyone have an answer? What should I do?
I cant see your attached image (the server is blocked here) but I have this same problem writing in portuguese. It is because of the encoding of the accents. As soon as you include an accent the encoding of the entire message changes and the message limit is reduced.
juliano_q said:
I cant see your attached image (the server is blocked here) but I have this same problem writing in portuguese. It is because of the encoding of the accents. As soon as you include an accent the encoding of the entire message changes and the message limit is reduced.
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Thanks for taking the time to answer. I even tried 3-rd party SMS apps and still I get only 70 characters out of the normal 167. Is this an issue that Google overlooked?
Edit: It seems that Apple users are experiencing the same issue.
"This is only an issue for non-English speaking countries... That's why this is not a big deal for the North-Americans that (comprehensively) sometimes simply don't understand what are we talking about...
In any mobile Phone (iPhone included), when you write a SMS using special characters like "ç","á","é","í","ó","ú","ñ","ä", etc, the SMS are limited to only 70 characters instead of 160 characters because a extended encoding is necessary! So, you pay 3x the price of an SMS if you write 160 characters (it will send 3 SMS: 70+70+20). Besides that, the risk of the SMS not being delivered is higher because it is actually sending 3 SMS at once and sometimes it gets broken in the way.
So, to solve this issue, there is a feature in any Nokia mobile phone almost for 10 YEARS (!!!) called: "SMS Extended Character Set": ON/OFF
If turned ON, it uses extended character set with 70 characters per SMS and the destination Phone gets all the special characters: "ç","á","é","í","ó","ú","ñ","ä"
If it is turned OFF: the phone allows to write special characters, with 160 characters per SMS, but automatically converts the special characters to their basic equivalents "c","a","e","i","o","u","n","a" when sending the SMS.
... It is amazing how Apple is 10 years behind other mobile manufacturers in this matter... Maybe because Nokia is originally from Finland (where they use special characters and experienced the issue) while Apple is from the USA, where they naturally (and sadly) don't recognize this as a issue.
Imagine if you send 1000 SMS in a week and you have to pay them (many people pay them)... You have to be very careful not to introduce any special character otherwise you pay 3x the money!"
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just would like to ask if anyone has experienced receiving SMS messages received via XDA IIs is of different format from that of how it is received in nokia fons?
What happens is that a multi-lined SMS in a nokia screen, when received thru the XDA will appear as if the SMS was written in a single sentence without spaces in between the words.
could anybody direct me on how to fix this? or is there any software I need to install for this to be fixed?
cheers!
Never experienced that myself.
WHat I *have* found, though, is that any carriage returns (new line) you send from the XDA gets ignored by other phones
The problem I've found is that autocorrect uses a different apostrophe character. ` as opposed to ', and most phones show a 'no character' box in the word.
If you are thinking of ASCII arts, the problem is very simple..
They are made WITHOUT carriage return..
Nokia displays from the 51xx series and newer all had a maximum of 14 characters, and 4 rows of text.
The nokia scrolls through the message by showing lines 1-4, 5-8, 9-12 and so on..
Now, many of the people who made these ASCII arts didn't think of compability at all.. They could use X number of spaces to fill a line, instead of using carriage return, or simply use many characters..
These people are idiots!
So the text
8888888888888888888XXX88888888888XXX88888888888888888888
sendt to a Nokia phone would be displayed like this:
88888888888888
88888XXX888888
88888XXX888888
88888888888888
But on our beloved XDA devices, wich have a few more characters than 14 per line, you get
8888XXXXX88888888888X888888888888X888888888888XXXXX88888
On the other hand, if the message was made like this:
8888XXXXX88888[RETURN]888888X8888888[RETURN]88888X88888888[RETURN]8888XXXXX88888
You would get
8888XXXXX88888
888888X8888888
88888X88888888
8888XXXXX88888
On both Nokia and XDA..
Don't know if this is what you were thinking of, but it felt good to say that they are idiots!
thanks bonzo! that really explains it! i think since this is a compatibility issue between nokia and XDAs so it would just be an added problem if we have a third party software installed on this since we receive sms messages from different mobile phone manufacturers.
cheers!
I have noticed a problem with my Blueangel, when writing a text message it tell me in the bottom left corner that it will be two messages, even when the counter is less than the 160 character limit.. I didn't think anything of it, and presumed it was just a bug in the counter, but I've now recieved my bill from O2, and the phone has indeed been sending 2 messages!
Anyone know a solution to this?
I'm using Rom 1.40 with Radio 1.10
Cheers
messaging>tools>options>accounts>text message>uncheck unicode when necessary...
Yup
Yup mine did/does it too. No idea why. It happens when you leave a ' (and other characters too but i forget which one's) character out of a word. So for example if you typed "youre" it would replce it with "you're" but the added ' reduces the max characters to 70.
I think it is something to do with the encoding microsoft is using for the character set. Obviously the autocorrect is using a character with longer encoding than it should be. (I'm studying character encoding for an exam as we speak! )
Anyway you can stop it doing it by going to Start -> Settings -> Input -> Word Completion and un-chcking the box "Replace text as you type".
Lewis
Actually guys,
This happens because of some character foreign character codes e.g. sometimes when doing an 'o' i get a 'oe' (but squashed together) ... those will cause the message to shorter. The same is also for using ` instead of '
Everytime I've encountered this I've just retyped it ... in actual fact, I'm using block recognizer because I'm an ex-Palm user and am now more familar with that so I rarely have these problems now.
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Vicer, I think you've got it bang on there!
messaging>tools>options>accounts>text message>uncheck unicode when necessary...
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Now I can't even reproduce it! Sweet as
JUST SEARCH, Just a few days ago i answered the same question!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=115656&highlight=#115656
Thanks Vicer, that seems to have done the trick!
its much better to turn off autocorrect found in your input module than turn off the Unicode in sms ..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=104479#104479
the bug is already been fix in WM5.0 but not in WM2003SE
Sorry to go off topic but since it's to do with different character sets, then I thought of asking my question here.
Does anybody know how to tweak pocket word (maybe registry) so that it can read a different character set i.e. Hebrew character set?
Does anyone know what to add or remove or change in the registry to allow more than 160 characters on sending SMS ?
Thanks
this is a standard sms thing... you cant change how many characters to send in one message.. now you can type over 160 and your phone should display like 168/2 where the first number is characters and the 2nd number is how many sms' its going to send... and when it sends most newer phones will combine the 2 messages on the recieving device and it will display as 1
My O2 Xda Stealth shows as you described, however, it also gives me an error "Your Text Message cannot be sent". It works perfectly within 160 characteres (1/160) but as soon as you start with (2/320) shows the error when you hit SEND.
Any ideas ? Could you provide the Registry ?
Thanks
Maybe some restriction from your provider, I have O2 XDA Stealth too and I am sending longer messages without any problems...
Ok, thanks, let me go back an ask my Network provider to see if I have restriction.
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this is a standard sms thing... you cant change how many characters to send in one message.. now you can type over 160 and your phone should display like 168/2 where the first number is characters and the 2nd number is how many sms' its going to send... and when it sends most newer phones will combine the 2 messages on the recieving device and it will display as 1
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This issue was a nightmare for me until I realized how to overcome with continuous efforts. In my case I use the arabizer and thus, I can send 160 char. in one shot (english) but when I change to arabic, the number of char. turns to 1/70 (i.e. max of 70 char. per shot).
Now, that wasn't the case always, I upgraded to one of the latest arabizer versions and surprisingly, everytime I wanted to send english sms it only allowed 70 char! I had no time to dig and find out why is this happening, though I crossed check between older cab files and new ones and found that among the difference was that the new one had two fonts files those are "tahoma" and when installed, voila the problem was solved.
The moral is it is not a standard SMS thing, it is something with localization characters. May be
This is not the case. The question if you can send full 160 characters or only 70 characters depends on the fact wheather you use ASCII or UNICODE. In case of use Arabizer or some special national characters (same for us here in CZ), you can send only 70 characters per one message, but then you can continue and you can see i.e. 75/2 and the longer message will be sent by 2 parts. But he cannot send more than one message at all...
In my case was the Network. For some reason there was a limitation on sending SMS. Network customer service did not resolve my case, I surfed in Internet and found some tricks for GSM networks.
Bottom line I just write down the following ##004#[SEND] and then I received a message from the network "Success" or something like this (don't recall). But it was enough to be able to send more than 160 characters (obviously the system splitted it in "n" numbers of SMS when you submit it)
Hope it could also work with other peoples
WHy are text messages capped at 160 Characters?
whats the reasoning behind it? is it the maximum size that can be sent via a special radio signal? ive been wondering this ever since I had my blackberry storm... many moons ago
yep, cdma limitation
Came across this in another thread:
"Transmission of the short messages between SMSC and phone can be done through different protocols such as SS7 within the standard GSM MAP framework or TCP/IP within the same standard. Messages are sent with the additional MAP operation forward_short_message, whose payload length is limited by the constraints of the signalling protocol to precisely 140 bytes (140 bytes = 140 * 8 bits = 1120 bits). In practice, this translates to either 160 7-bit characters, 140 8-bit characters, or 70 16-bit characters. Characters in languages such as Arabic, Chinese, Korean, Japanese or Slavonic languages (e.g. Russian) must be encoded using the 16-bit UCS-2 character encoding (see Unicode). Routing data and other metadata is additional to the payload size."
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/technology/2009/05/invented-text-messaging.html
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http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/technology/2009/05/invented-text-messaging.html
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I was looking for this article a few days ago - someone at work had the same question and I knew I had read it straight from the inventor's mouth somewhere. Thanks!
thanks
yea.. i wonder if theres going to be a day when you can send more characters than just 160.. cmon.. all the technology that we have and only 160 Character Text??
Why are you writing a book and txting it..
I can barely read a sentence when I get txts, any larger than that and Im annoyed..
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upperkingjr said:
Why are you writing a book and txting it..
I can barely read a sentence when I get txts, any larger than that and Im annoyed..
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I find it less of an interruption to send SMS. Many people don't like it, especially older people. Probably because they don't understand how to use it. Email, SMS and phone call all have their place.
There are times and places that I can't answer the phone. A text is sending the information or question that can be answered sometimes at the recipient's leisure or calling them to ask one question is a waste of effort. Also, going through the trouble of calling voicemail or listening to is can be too distracting depending on where you are. SMS is great if you're in a place that you have to have the phone completely silent, yet can still communicate.
Many times people are busy and can't talk on the phone. Okay, so I just called you and you said you couldn't talk. I have to call again to leave a voicemail. I just disturbed you twice just to ask or tell you something.
Email is good too for long ones but most people check it on a computer and there's no telling when that might be. SMS goes right through.
I am on my 2nd phone and am still having this issue. My text messages split into multiple messages and not within the Sprint rules of 160 characters. Example...
Hey, I just wanted to say th
at i think you should try ano
ther phone.
That would be 3 different txt messages. Ive checked and unchecked the reassemble message box, replaced the phone, used the stock message app as well as GO, and still no luck. My gf has the same phone but hers doesn't do it.
Which language? English I assume? Try changing from US english to UK or something else.
Reason: I write in another language with special characters, and these seem to take up more 'characters' than standard ones. Has happened on 3+ different phones now.
I'm not sure if this applies to you, but if you use an emoji in the text, you get a limit of 60 (I think) characters per sms.