O2 Xda IIs "wakes up" by itself!!! - MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General

Ok, I am getting increasingly frustrated trying to resolve an issue... my Xda O2 IIs keeps "waking itself up" ....aaaargh!!!
I hit the power button on the top to shut off the display (it saves power and enables me to lock the other keys from being accidentally pushed) but after a very short time, the screen comes on by itself, and I can't figure out WHY!!!!
While just sitting on my desk or out on the road, not in the cradle, I noticed, from time-to-time, that the "G" Icon at the top is often replaced by an "x" and the 'left/right sync arrows' ...so I naturally thought it was trying to connect to something.
I thought it might be trying to connect to GPRS, so I removed the connection. It didn't fix the issue.
I thought it was a Bluetooth File Transfer issue, so I deleted that connection also... still no resolve.
I checked my ActiveSync settings, and it all looks ok.
PLEASE HELP, it's killing the length of life in my battery on a daily basis!!!

i had the same problem when i was on the o2 rom, i sorted it by getting shut of the o2 rom and installing the imate 1.40 rom.... it runs faster,better and never needs soft reseting, with the added bonus of wm10.
but i kinda came to the conclusion that when the fone itself talks to the network every so often, ( ya know when u get interferance when its next to a radio or ur desktop speakers.) as it did it at those times, maybe u should stick it next to something and see if u get the radio interference, and see if it does this in flight mode......
also maybe think about removing the o2 active if u have that, and as a last resort, if no-one else can halp with a fix, maybe think about upgrading to imate 1.40 rom...

Mine did this for a while. I can't remamber the EXACT setting, but it was activesync trying to sync on a schedule (like every 5 minutes) over WAP.
If its the same problem, a bit of rummaging around the activesync settings should sort it out.
-Mike

Thanks joey jojo. Thanks mike freegan.
Joey, where can I get iMate 1.40 ??? Although, I really don't want to use the iMate rom. Ideally, I'd like to find and fix the problem I'm having with this O2 rom.
Mike, I checked my ActiveSync settings on the device... everything looks ok to me. Under ActiveSync/Tools/Options/PC Synchronization: 'Use this PC' is set to ZEUS (which is my computer name) and the other two boxes are UNchecked for 'Use mobile schedule to sync with this PC' and 'Sync with this PC during manual sync' ...then when I click on the Options button, the 'When cradled' dialogue appears, the checkbox for 'Enable PC sync using this connection:' is CHECKED and the connection to use is set for 'USB' . Then, under the 'Mobile Schedule' tab, everything is set to 'Manually'.
BTW, when I put the device in 'Flight Mode' ...it doesn't mysteriously 'wake-up' by itself.
I agree, it appears to be trying to use GPRS to 'connect' or 'sync' with something... I just can't seem to find what or where the cause is located. Aaaargh!!! Any other ideas guys?? Anyone else?

XDA III IIs IIi Waking UP
I've found that if I leave my bluetooth switched on it does this I'd love to have my bluetooth on all the time but as it does this I have it off unless I'm using my GPS.
Can this be fixed ?

Thanks Carl n Adele,
I tried your suggestion, shutting off BlueTooth, but after doing so, and then pressing the power button, the device STILL wakes-up after about 20-30 seconds. So, that wasn't the problem.
Is there any O2 subscribers that can call O2 Tech Support and ask some questions? I'd even call myself if I could pretend to be someone else. Just a thought, if there was anyone willing to help out.

i will try to get u xda support number, i work at o2 so i might be able to ask someone too... tho i guess they wont know, cos there idiots.... lol

I had this problem too. Found that Activesync was still running in the background and was using "mobile schedule" to sync via GPRS (even when set to manual), check that ActiveSync does not appear in the Running program list...

Thanks joey jojo, I really would appreciate the help!
m4ttyw, you are correct, ActiveSync was running in the background. But I had set everything in ActiveSync to MANUALLY SYNC. Nevertheless, I STOPPED ActiveSync in the Running Programs List, then pressed the Power Button again, and with fingers crossed and holding my breath, I waited to see if the device would 'wake itself up' again... and... sure enough, it did. Same thing as always! DAMN! Nice try though, thanks.
This is really frustrating me. The manual shows NOTHING about that Icon at the top if the screen (see earlier message in this thread) and what it is doing, so I can only think that is is still trying to connect or sync something... AAAAAAAARGH!!!!!!
Hmmmm, I wonder if it might have something to do with the GSM Band setting? It's currently set to Automatic, I am not sure what it SHOULD be set to for Rogers in Canada???

Darn think waking up
checked all my settings and its def the bluetooth causing my problems

Not mine, Carl... I have BlueTooth SHUT OFF and the device still wakes up by itself!!!

NEW Observation: When the device wakes-up, it takes about 5 seconds before the "G" icon changes to the 'sync' icon with the 'x' (see pics earlier in this message thread) but, I've noticed that signal strength drops off to nothing except a few dots "..." as if it were searching for a signal. And then, immediately comes back to normal signal strength.

sol
This is sometimes caused by a conflict between ur current radio stack and the frequency ur network is using.
What i mean is, the 'G' icons only represents the availability of gprs in ur current coverage area.By default, ur phone syncs with ur provider every x interval
in seconds, by which the state of gprs availability is changed (Hence,its icon) in ur case, ur pda wakes up whenever ur pda syncs with ur network. A temporary solution would be to choose a network configuration (under settings - connections) which doesnt have a gprs connection. This might, or might not cure it. The best thing to do in my opinion is to change ur current Rom ( or atleast ur radio Rom) that would definately cure the problem.
Try both solutions and post.

Sorry for my worse english.
I met this problem for several times, and it seem to cause by active sync inside the PPC.
I have to connect it to PC and have a Sync Operation,then solve it .
My Device :
Simpified Chinese Dopod 696
The Version Number is fogotten Because I had upgraded it .

Thanks gz_lgz,
I think you are CORRECT!!!! I started to think about what you said in your message, and decided to INSTALL the NEW VERSION of ActveSync 4 on my desktop pc.
After installing ActiveSync 4, I did a sync, removed device from cradle, pressed the power button on the device and waited... and waited... and waited... and waited... and waited... and waited... AND it did NOT WAKE ITSELF UP!!!
It seems there was something happening with the ActiveSync installed on the device that was not working properly and therefore kept trying to sync itself again & again, but since installing the new version of ActiveSync, it corrected the problem.
NOTE: I suppose that uninstalling and reinstalling the OLD version of ActiveSync may have done the same thing... but I never tried to do that.
Nevertheless, I am very happy that it is working properly now!!!
Thanks EVERYONE for your time and patience and WILLINGNESS to help!

Gentlemen,
After upgrading to the latest Dangaard ROM I've got a problem that seems to have the same root cause although the symptoms are slightly different.
If Bluetooth is switched on and my hands-free Logitech is paired with the Blueangel, it wakes up every minute. Once the hands-free is switched off, the device sleeps normally. Another lame thing is if the phone call is long enough for the device to go to the sleep mode (longer then 1 minute in my case), the Bluetooth connection is dropped and the sound is transferred to internal speaker.
There is no need to mention that Activesync is stopped. I'm quite sure that all these problems have something to do with the power management of the device. That's why I'd like to ask if somebody uses any additional software for the power management and if you've got any recommendation on the subject.
Hope it could help us to get rid of the problem. Any help is greatly appreciated. My device details are mentioned in the signature.
PS. Thanks to all the contributors to this wonderful forum. I must admit that the idea of BlueAngel was as great as the implementation sucks...
Update: Check this out: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=21235
I think this workaround is good enough.

just a thought, but open active sync on your xda, and make sure that on the PC tab, the box marked 'use mobile schedule to sync with this pc' is not ticked and the other marked 'sync with this pc durin manual sync' IS ticked
also on mobile schedule tab, all selections are set to manually, and the box marked 'sync outgoing items as they are sent' is not ticked.
dunno if that will help, but its a thought anyway!!!
joey 8)

Guinness said:
Thanks gz_lgz,
I think you are CORRECT!!!! I started to think about what you said in your message, and decided to INSTALL the NEW VERSION of ActveSync 4 on my desktop pc.
After installing ActiveSync 4, I did a sync, removed device from cradle, pressed the power button on the device and waited... and waited... and waited... and waited... and waited... and waited... AND it did NOT WAKE ITSELF UP!!!
It seems there was something happening with the ActiveSync installed on the device that was not working properly and therefore kept trying to sync itself again & again, but since installing the new version of ActiveSync, it corrected the problem.
NOTE: I suppose that uninstalling and reinstalling the OLD version of ActiveSync may have done the same thing... but I never tried to do that.
Nevertheless, I am very happy that it is working properly now!!!
Thanks EVERYONE for your time and patience and WILLINGNESS to help!
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ah, i didnt read that before my last post, ok, glad to hear you sorted your problem out tho!!!
joey 8)

i get the same problem with mine - ever since i turned my active sync onto manual it started with the problem so i turned it back to automatic.. just seeing if that fixed the problem i've been having..
also Downloading the lastet Active sync 3.8 and see if that helps..

I've figured out that its Sprite Backup Software v3.0 thats causing my XDAIIs switch on all the time. Disabling the Scheduled Backup seems to resolve the problem.
However, I've upgraded to SBSv3.14 which works even without turning off Scheduled backup.
Hope this helps

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TMobile WM2003 Upgrade Issues

I was wondering if anyone else was having the following issues with the new T-Mobile upgrade, and if anyone had any ideas on how to resolve them:
* The phone turns on sporadically when it is in my pocket. I think this normally happens when it tries to connect to GPRS
* The phone doesn't give me notification of my voice mail all the time
Thanks,
Dan
http://envoisolutions.com/people/dan
I'm seeing #1. In my case it looks like it's every time that the Inbox checks the email. Beta Version 4.00.16 didn't do this (so I might go back).
I had #2 occasionally even with PPC2002. Do you go in and out of coverage areas? This can cause problems, I think.
tmo never fails....
the ghost affect was an issue with the previous tmo betas...but it was not a prblm with att's latest rom
I have a different issue with my newly upgraded rom from tmo:
everything works fine
...except :shock:
wen i press the power button to turn the xda back on, it wont do anything at all
the button works to turn back light off, and to turn the unit off, but not back on
Im about to try with sum other Roms, but has any one eperienced this issue, or might know what might be causing it? (additional soft)?
Memory Leak
I have a memory leak that I can not trace. I have a cooked TMO .16 release radditionally running MS Voice, SharpDeck Sharp Vault, Pocket Streets, Cadenza mNotes.
I slowly but steadilt lose memory unitl I have none left and now have none left.
I am going back to the ATT version (but cooked)
Macudc
Upgrade
Says no connection w/ USB and won't go any further. Any suggestions?
Re: Upgrade
scottyjchef said:
Says no connection w/ USB and won't go any further. Any suggestions?
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I had to restart my computer to solve this... Sometimes, you need to restart the XDA also.
MrDollyMaker
Upgraded Driver
If you allow the TMOBILE upgrade to install the new updates for you, it also installs a new driver in to your XDA that illiminates ALL upgrade problems from what I have seen.
MrDollyMaker
Upgrade
I have done a hard reset on the phone and I run into the problem when I first start the upgrade. It goes through an initial setup of "unpacking" and after that is when I get the error on the pc. The device connects fine with ActiveSync.
I'm having the turn back on issue, and also some times my text messages don't seem to come through.
I was thinking that maybe when it turns itself on, it's a text message trying to come through or something.
My texts end up coming through in a group!
yep, same here on the sms and missed calls...
i got voice mail, from 3 days ago, show up today!
and.. sms from midnight lastnight, came today at 5pm
although, i DID make fone calls this morning, so... the out of range thingie dont apply here..
also... i cant print to IR anymore!
I just upgraded with T-Mobile.16 ROM and Radio. The only bug im experiencing is when I receive a new sms, and I read it already, the notification of "1 unread SMS" on the Today panel won't go away.
I'm also having a hard time setting up my connection settings (MMS and GRPS) for the advanced section of the connection won;t show the proxy settings. Any1 who has a solution for this? I'm usign the mobile in the Philippines that's why I need to setup the proxy per connection and not per connection group.
Upgrade
Nevermind! I hate when it's something simple like disabling the antivirus on the pc. DUH!! :roll: I have yet to get any sms. Will keep watching :shock:
ntabikha said:
yep, same here on the sms and missed calls...
i got voice mail, from 3 days ago, show up today!
and.. sms from midnight lastnight, came today at 5pm
although, i DID make fone calls this morning, so... the out of range thingie dont apply here..
also... i cant print to IR anymore!
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I am yet to received any errors like this. The only time I seem to have the XDA turn on is when the reception fringes and it hunts down better reception. It only takes a moment of poor reception to interfear with how it receives a message and than the system waits several hours sometimes to send it.
T-Mobile as with many other carriers like Verison and AT&T state to excpet up to 24 hours for SMS messages to get through to your phone.
MrDollyMaker
Re: tmo never fails....
JUICEe said:
the ghost affect was an issue with the previous tmo betas...but it was not a prblm with att's latest rom
I have a different issue with my newly upgraded rom from tmo:
everything works fine
...except :shock:
wen i press the power button to turn the xda back on, it wont do anything at all
the button works to turn back light off, and to turn the unit off, but not back on
Im about to try with sum other Roms, but has any one eperienced this issue, or might know what might be causing it? (additional soft)?
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Yes, I had this issue today and I then unistalled the KSE TrueFax Trial (which I installed yesterday) and now the power button is working correctly again. The only way to power up the XDA was to do a soft-reset.
HTH...
i didnt think xda 1 had fax capabilities! atleast I couldnt get them to work, could u?
ntabikha said:
i got voice mail, from 3 days ago, show up today!
and.. sms from midnight lastnight, came today at 5pm
(
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FYI, I had the same problems with the XDA-developers Special Edition ROM. I go into many building where I get no signal at all. My guess is that, if the SMS message fails, the T-Mobile network will retry it, but sometimes not for quite a long time.
Re: tmo never fails....
JUICEe said:
the ghost affect was an issue with the previous tmo betas...but it was not a prblm with att's latest rom
I have a different issue with my newly upgraded rom from tmo:
everything works fine
...except :shock:
wen i press the power button to turn the xda back on, it wont do anything at all
the button works to turn back light off, and to turn the unit off, but not back on
Im about to try with sum other Roms, but has any one eperienced this issue, or might know what might be causing it? (additional soft)?
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I have a similar problem. When the device powers off automatically (after about 3min) I can't get it to come back on. Doing a soft reset actually makes it do a hard reset. Also, while it's in this "coma" state, I can receive a call and hear the person on the other end, but they only hear a ring and can't hear me.
T-mobile had no clue what to do... as usual.

WiFi won't turn on until soft-reset

Hi,
I tried searching for this, but couldn't find anything, so I'm hoping someone here would be able to help out. I currently have a Siemens SX66 ROM v1.40.00 WWE, Radio v1.13.00 ExtROM v1.40.125 WWE
Now, it's strange, but, if I don't have WiFi activated for an extended period of time, and I try to turn it on from the WiFi Manager but what happens is, I'll get that rotating "wait" icon with the colors, and then the WiFi will NOT turn on. However, if I perform a soft-reset (which I don't like having to do, cuz then the "phone" is out of commission until it's back up and running), the WiFi'll be automatically on when it finally loads up fully from the soft-reset.
I don't suppose anyone knows what causes this, and if there's any way to fix this? I'd be forever obliged!!
Thanks,
Quordandis
Hi quordandis,
That sounds like a faulty ROM version. Have you tried a newer or a different ROM version?
Does WiFi work again normally after a hard reset?
I've seen similar behavior on my SX66 with sysrom 1.40. It only started about a week ago, when I was running radio rom 1.12 and extrom 1.40.124 (both of which I'd been running for months). Last weekend, I upgraded to radio rom 1.13 and extrom 1.40.125 -- WiFi works a little better, but it still gets into a mode where it won't connect, and requires one or more soft resets.
The fact that it started only recently suggests a hardware issue -- if it were software, updating the radio & ext roms (each of which involves a hard reset) should have fixed it.
Well, if it is a faulty ROM, then would reflashing the radio rom do the trick? I'm guessing by your question that i may not have the correct radio rom installed. How would i go about discerning which is the correct one?
I don't think it's a faulty ROM. I'd been running the same ROM for months when the problem started, and updating the radio & ext ROM didn't improve things too much.
If you want to get new roms, the SX66 Standardization Project is the place to get them.
I have this problem too on my pda2K. Using the latest ROM build from imate.
My experience and that of others on the forum suggests to me that this is indeed a software/firmware issue.. Most likely a conflict between the radio, bluetooth and wi fi components for the various ROMS in use on the BA. personal experience is that wi fi was just horrible on my original O2 1.31 ROM with 3500 Bluetooth stack, better on the 1.40.176 i-mate ROM, and better still on my current 1.40.923 O2 Asia ROM. So unless I have some kind of self healing hardware built into my device, my money is on the ROM as being at the heart of this particular issue
Regards
Chris
well,to me xda phone r good in reset thats all.
I have the same problem too..
Did a flash of the ROM from the seeo2.com website..
Still happening.. I'll almost bald due to this problem..
Currently waiting for the WM5 to be stable.. before I get myself into more hair loosing project or attempts.
So,
I still don't know what I should do. I originally updated the radio rom from the blue angel standardization site. I don't know what to do at this point. I HATE having to soft-reset every time I want to get WiFi up and running.
The wierd part is, sometimes after it being on for an extended period of time, it'll work fine, and sometimes, it won't...I don't know what to do at this point...
Thanks,
Quordandis
Hi quordandis
How are you turning the wifi on and off? With the green wi fi manager button, or via the wifi/gprs connection Icon thats at the top of the screen next to the signal strenth indicator. Also, are you turning it on and off frequently or just leaving it on all the time?
Regards
chris
Yes, I'm using the WiFi manager, the little antenna icon on the bottom of the screen, when I tap it, loads up 3 options to connect to the internet each with it's own button GPRS, Bluetooth, and WiFi. I would normally tap the WiFi button (the last of the 3) which normally turns on the WiFi antenna, and it begins searching for available wifi networks, but sometimes, i'll tap it, and it'll just stay orange (instead of green when it's turned on). I won't even get an error message or something (which happens sometimes when I try to turn on bluetooth - something about insufficient memory or whatnot - anyone have a solution to THAT too?)
I don't leave my wifi on all the time, as I don't always have a wifi network readily available...
Any suggestions?
Hi quordandis
Give this a try....
1. Move the BTTRey file out of the start folder and into the start menu folder.
2. Go into start/settings/menus and select this file so that it shows up when you drop down the start menu. This will allow you to easily launch bluetooth when you need it
3. Softrest the device. It should restart without the bluettooth icon appearing at the bottom right of the screen.
4. launch the wireless icon at the bottom right of screen and then turn wireless on if it is not already on.
5. From this point only use the GPRS/WIFI icon next to the signal strength indicator to switch between GPRS and WIFI
I believe that there is some kind of conflict occuring between the bluetooth, GPRS and WIFI that is causing this problem.
Give that a try and see if it helps
Regards
Chris
Hi,
I don't understand something. Why should moving the BT tray icon have any effect on my wifi. Would you mind explaining how this would "fix" my wifi refusing to turn on?
The only time I activate gprs, is from the taskbar icon on the top of the screen that's a little "G" otherwise, BT is usually turned on from the BT icon, and WiFi from the little antenna, which really loads up the wirless lan manager that shows me the status (whether wifi is off, or searching, or connected) as well as the connection details like SSID, Tx Rate, MAC address, IP, etc etc
Thanks,
Quordandis
Hi Quordandis
Moving the BTTRay file from the start folder will prevent bluetooth from loading on startup. My personal belief, that I can only validate from annecdotal evidence, is that the combination of bluetooth, wifi and gprs all running at the same time causes some kind of conflicts that inhibit switching between communication channels. By stopping bluetooth, you eliminate one source of possible problems. Now I have no idea if this can be explained in a more technical way, but all I can tell you is that when I operate in this mode, my GPRS/WIFI switching is pretty stable. I have not really looked into why. Just thankful that it is!!
regards
Chris
I had the same problem having BTTray in startup folder and PDA2K unidirectional patch installed.
The way I get back WIFI connecting is :
Start - Settings - Connections
Connections
Configure Proxy server
Check "This network connect to Internet"
Leave "This network connect to internet through Proxy server" unchecked.
This made me the trick to get back my WIFI connection.
I can now play with WIFI again !
I still have BTTray running from start folder.
The PDA2K Unidirectional patch correct the "nosound" problem when calling.
Also, and I forgot to mention, turn on/off bluetooth.
Even worse wifi...
Hi all,
My wifi is even worse than that of quordandis!
The following is the case:
1. I launch wifi manager with the little antenna in the bottom right corner.
2. In the upcoming window (where all th einformation on wifi networks such as SSID, signal strength etc. are shown) I check the checkbox in the upper left corner and hit OK.
3. The little "wait" circle with the colors comes up and rotates, and then just disappears both the wifi manager and the colored circle.
4. The wifi LED (left greenish) starts to blink.
5. However absolutely NO network is found! The little antenna in the bottom right corner has the red line accross it again (wifi off). So I hit the little antenna again, wifi manager comes up and the checkbox in the upper-left corner is UNchecked and it says: "Wireless is off". But the green wifi LED is blinking!
6. I check the box again, hit OK, colored wheel, and then the same happens.
7. I give it a soft reset, it boots up. Green wifi LED is blinking, but no networks are found and the little antenna has the red line across it. I hit the antenna, wifi manager comes up, checkbox is unchecked, "Wireless is off". But the green wifi LED blinks!
8. I can give it as many soft resets as I want, the green LED keeps blinking (until I hard reset the device!!!), but wifi never ever turnes on.
I tried this whole procedure with:
a) 1.22 GER ROM, 1.06 Radio
b) 1.42 WWE (T-Mobile UK) ROM, 1.13 Radio
c) 1.42 GER ROM, 1.13 Radio
and the same (above written) happens. Anybody any ideas?
I bought the device used and wifi has never ever worked for me. Maybe the seller broke it and didn't tell me, but I cannot ask him anymore.
Thanks for any suggestions (I will try disabling BTTray, maybe that will help...)
Cheers,
tomiki
I've had this problem on my XDAiis from the day I bought it - it seems to me that some drivers may not be too well behaved and possibly leave bits loaded, and the useable memory for Wi-Fi and BT drivers diminishes to a point where they cannot load.
I have had the same problem on occasion with BT too.
This only seems to happen after the thing has been running for a while (several days in my case) and I then try and use wi-fi. I haven't been able to fugure how to free up any memory - the supplied memory manager only seems to let you kill applications. On my 9210i, I had a memory manager that would 'compress' the memory and free up all those bits that were left resident from rougue apps and drivers. Need something similar on the BA really....
Since problem is there since i bought my BA last year and this problem is only related to WM2003SE. This problem happens because of lack of ram memory. So when you try to start Bluetooth or Wifi it wont run because of not enough memory. Stopping programs wont help and in most cases you need a soft reset. And i think that problem happens in all Roms.
For this reason i have switched to WM5 even though it is not stable. In WM5 you can switch on/off the bluetooth or wifi without any problems.
Hope this helps.

I Need A Solution For The Wifi,nothing Worked!!

I NEED A SOLUTION FOR THE WIFI ,NOTHING WORKED!!it works sometimes,,,the problem is the famous problem of starting it,,,the lamp flashes but the tower doesnt show,,,!
i used every known rom and 2003se and wm5 nothing helped it works sometimes and someother times not,,,,,
it needs soft reset sometimes,,,and some times very resistant
my radio version now is 1.15 and 3.5.2 R5 wm5 and still sometimes i can start it and someother times i cant.....is there any fix for that?
i will sell my BA if i cant find one!
lotfytronics said:
I NEED A SOLUTION FOR THE WIFI ,NOTHING WORKED!!it works sometimes,,,the problem is the famous problem of starting it,,,the lamp flashes but the tower doesnt show,,,!
i used every known rom and 2003se and wm5 nothing helped it works sometimes and someother times not,,,,,
it needs soft reset sometimes,,,and some times very resistant
my radio version now is 1.15 and 3.5.2 R5 wm5 and still sometimes i can start it and someother times i cant.....is there any fix for that?
i will sell my BA if i cant find one!
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I know excatlh the problem you mean as mine has done that for a long time. however, since I flashed Helmi's Wm6 rom mine hasn't done it again. it maybe the fix you need then again it may not depending on your device.
Mine is originally and Orange M2000 and prior to trying Orange's last official rom and t-mobile's latest rom as well it was still doing exactly as you described. make sure your moel is listed in helmi's description of compatable devices. and remember to do pim backup and backup you Storage arear before flashing as it combines internal storage to main memory in the wm6 rom
hope that helps
I just got my BA a few days ago. Did the WM6 upgrade today, and the wlan was doing this.
I noticed that it was happening after I'd sync'd it and the wifi connection was disabled by ActiveSync. I went into the Connection Settings on ActiveSync on my computer (ver. 4.5) and checked the "Allow wireless connection on device when connected to the desktop"
So far, this has worked. I've been able to sync my BA, disconnect, and reconnect to my wireless connection without having to do a reset first.
Nita
wheatfree said:
I noticed that it was happening after I'd sync'd it and the wifi connection was disabled by ActiveSync. I went into the Connection Settings on ActiveSync on my computer (ver. 4.5) and checked the "Allow wireless connection on device when connected to the desktop"
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This appears to be a bug in the ROM. Activesync on the phone doesn't always realize that the connection is gone and gets 'stuck' in a loop trying to sync to a now-missing computer. Closing activesync on the phone will also clear it and allow the wifi to work after syncing.
i flashed it with wm6 but the wifi probelm still exists,,,only the lamp flashes but no tower is showing,,,,,,,,,,and i tried the wlan manager,,,and the com manager nothing helped
I have exactly the same problem, i think its an hardware error.
the problem started half a year ago with wm2003, yesterday i flashed wm6 but the bug still exists
after multiple switch on-and-off sometimes the wireless works, sometimes it takes just a while 5-10 minutes.
if theres somewhere a solution, please let me know
after a soft reset open CommManager, Setup, Wireless LAN an Select "TURN ON WLAN".
This dont conect.
But, after you do that, you can use te On/Off button of Wifi on te CommMannager with any problem...
You need to do this, only one time after a Soft Reset.
Can this be done via a script, reg key or even a Visual Basic App that opens the Comm Manager and the Wireless Manager and selects these in sequence? I have a profile switching software (PhoneAlarm) and it works a treat all for the activatation of WLAN. Sometimes it works fine, others, it doesn't.
As I am running WM6 and it's lovely undocumented feature (bug) of the time and password both being in volitile memory, each time I take my battery out, I have to rebuild the 'ken device as I cannot unlock the screen. I have resorted to using SPB backup nightly and a reboot after backup (as the device seems to work better with a daily reset (hey, it ain't stable yet - we are still waiting Billy)). This is where the Wireless issue comes into play.
Do I settle for Profile switching with wireless powering on correctly or do I backup my device and ensure that I am not re-imaging the stupid thing every day when I take out the battery! Mobile device - bulldust! Not very mobile when you have to keep it plugged in to ensure the battery doen't run out! My Laptop is more mobile!
jriquelme said:
after a soft reset open CommManager, Setup, Wireless LAN an Select "TURN ON WLAN".
This dont conect.
But, after you do that, you can use te On/Off button of Wifi on te CommMannager with any problem...
You need to do this, only one time after a Soft Reset.
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no, that doesnt work with my BA

Upgrade with a few problems....

Hi Folks
My Hermes/Tytn is an Orange M3100. Recently it has begun dropping calls, or rather, ignoring them. The caller could hear a ringing tone but the phone wouldn't switch on, show me an incomming call or anything. A short while later, usually after I'd switched it on (I mean, the screen, "off" is that it's on standby) I'd get the notification of a missed call. More often than not it would come through after I had made a call.
This reached a "point" on the weekend where I missed about 17 calls from the Agency to get work for me as I was the only one available
So. I upgraded as reccomended on here. Up to HardSPL 2.10, Radio version 1.41 and then upgraded to Schaps 4.22 WM6 Rom.
Now, I made sure that ActiveSync has connected and synchronised, and all my contacts and PIM info is in Outlook. However, A/S won't transmit the information to the PDA, even though it tells me it's synchronising.
The only way I have managed to get my PIM data/address book back onto the PDA was by running a custom SPB backup file to restore the calender, sms and phonebook.
This is where the fun starts. My PIM and Tasks then go "read only" merely by having a warning telling me I have no memory and to go and close other programs down. But there isn't anything else running!
Fine. Right. Ok. Obviously I've done something wrong. I did a hard reset this evening. It wiped all the data internally and reset it. I changed the details to match the username that was already stored in A/S and plugged it in.
It tells me "Connecting" and the green thing swirls around but doesn't actually do anything.
I have heard mention of the MTTY software, so I've got that here. But it won't allow me to connect on USB, only Com1, 2 or 3.
So I've a pretty useless phone at the moment. It's got none of my files on there, the satnav is rendered useless merely because I can't install the sod and all the other problems to go with it.
Short of screaming abuse at it and throwing it across the room I'm a bit stuffed. And I can't spend anymore time on it as I've got to be getting up for work at 4am (only finished tonight at 8pm ) for another full day
I've read the wiki, I've gone through the pages and pages and, er, pages of posts but I'm hitting a brick wall somewhere. I'm not as bright as you guys, but I get by.
TIA. Elwyn
Welcome to the world of HTC!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=352413
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=352413
Try disabling the enhanced feature in your usb to pc settings on the device. Also try removing and reinstalling activesync, I have to do mine roughly once every fortnight or so and I'm on the latest build of AS4.5
Elwyn M3100 said:
Hi Folks
My Hermes/Tytn is an Orange M3100. Recently it has begun dropping calls, or rather, ignoring them. The caller could hear a ringing tone but the phone wouldn't switch on, show me an incomming call or anything. A short while later, usually after I'd switched it on (I mean, the screen, "off" is that it's on standby) I'd get the notification of a missed call. More often than not it would come through after I had made a call.
This reached a "point" on the weekend where I missed about 17 calls from the Agency to get work for me as I was the only one available
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This has now improved, with most calls going through. Possibly only the Radio upgrade was necessary, but, hey, I've done it now
Elwyn M3100 said:
So. I upgraded as reccomended on here. Up to HardSPL 2.10, Radio version 1.41 and then upgraded to Schaps 4.22 WM6 Rom.
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This had actually been fully backed up. Apparently.
Elwyn M3100 said:
Now, I made sure that ActiveSync has connected and synchronised, and all my contacts and PIM info is in Outlook. However, A/S won't transmit the information to the PDA, even though it tells me it's synchronising.
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The drawback I had was A/S wasn't telling me it was done, or that it was doing anything. I still don't know how to fix that if it happens again
Elwyn M3100 said:
The only way I have managed to get my PIM data/address book back onto the PDA was by running a custom SPB backup file to restore the calender, sms and phonebook.
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At the time it seemed like a good idea
Elwyn M3100 said:
This is where the fun starts. My PIM and Tasks then go "read only" merely by having a warning telling me I have no memory and to go and close other programs down. But there isn't anything else running!
Fine. Right. Ok. Obviously I've done something wrong. I did a hard reset this evening. It wiped all the data internally and reset it. I changed the details to match the username that was already stored in A/S and plugged it in.
It tells me "Connecting" and the green thing swirls around but doesn't actually do anything.
I have heard mention of the MTTY software, so I've got that here. But it won't allow me to connect on USB, only Com1, 2 or 3.
So I've a pretty useless phone at the moment. It's got none of my files on there, the satnav is rendered useless merely because I can't install the sod and all the other problems to go with it.
Short of screaming abuse at it and throwing it across the room I'm a bit stuffed. And I can't spend anymore time on it as I've got to be getting up for work at 4am.....
I've read the wiki, I've gone through the pages and pages and, er, pages of posts but I'm hitting a brick wall somewhere. I'm not as bright as you guys, but I get by.
TIA. Elwyn
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Ok, as the first reply said, YES. The USB advanced thingy was checked. Once that was sorted then it sync'd. I still couldn't write to the PIM/Messaging/Phonebook but I could get it backed up. Once that was done I did a hard reset, then before I plugged the "fresh" install into the computer I set up the variety of settings (machine name, usb advanced, name etc) THEN plugged it in. System recognised it, and then proceeeded to "restore" the relevant details of my PIM/Addressbook/Messages.
I think the restore from SPB was being written to a part of the memory that it wasn't supposed to. Either way, I've stopped using SPB Backup now.
The phone works well. I've even got all the SatNav software installed and working on it. The installation from the memory card didn't take that long, once it was working propperly. Which was good as I did all of that "out on the road" away from the computer (I was in the passsenger seat then).
The only issue I have noticed now is that the battery seems to go quick...
Anyway, thank you for your help. I can now go and have some xmas shopping to relax with....
Cheers
Elwyn
Glad to hear you got it working, for backing up your contacts, messages etc I'd recommend PPCPimBackup, if you do a google you should be able to find it easy enough.
Have a good Christmas.

GPRS problem unsolved

Hi,
Im using unlocked T-mobile MDA pro 64mb phone with WM 6.1 (build 19960.1.1.8 TML)
The problem is that when I connect to GPRS, Internet explorer, outlook and most of the internet softwares (opera browser, google maps etc...) don't work. Internet explorer stops at loading. outlook says synchronization error. But, a few softwares like IM messenger, some trading software work fine. The problem occurs only when on GPRS. Everything works fine on wifi.
I have been facing this problem since I have unlocked the phone and flashed it for the first time. I have flashed for several times with various roms. initially it works but soon problem reappears. hmm.. Problem did not appear in WM 6.5 (but phone is hell slow. So, im forced to remove it). Further the problem is not network specific as I tried on various networks.
Guys please help me.. I searched a lot on internet and it seems like no one is facing this type of problem in the whole world except me
(Except this: social.microsoft.com/forums/en-US/windowsmobilephonesandaccessories/thread/64977e4f-c8ba-482a-9845-c1d80f88fd71/)
Hi,
Have you tryed using Tomal;s V10...
am using it now and i havent had a GPRS problem,
and phone runs very smooth with no lag.
Simon_WM said:
Hi,
Have you tryed using Tomal;s V10...
am using it now and i havent had a GPRS problem,
and phone runs very smooth with no lag.
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Hi,
Thanks for ur reply..
I dint remember trying it..so, wanna try..
the download links given by tomal (forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=573739) dint work...
can you provide a link for me to download tomal's V10..?
naveensakhamuri said:
Hi,
Thanks for ur reply..
I dint remember trying it..so, wanna try..
the download links given by tomal (forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=573739) dint work...
can you provide a link for me to download tomal's V10..?
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http://www.filebox.com/alhaque/3o6u8gdlfy6j
Also if you want to chnage the radio:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=600933&highlight=Challenge
thanks
Hi!
thnx for ur reply... I'm desperately waiting for it...
Any how I tried this... as usually it worked fine at the beginning and problem repeated again. The new development is that the application which I said to be working previously (IM messenger etc...) are also now working now...
Very much frustrated about this issue as I'm unable to find the background reason for it . Even the XDA forums cant help it....And the worst part is that warranty is not going to apply as I unlocked it..
Yet no solution...
info?
Which network?
Prepaid/postpaid?
Did you add a new connection manually yet it won't work?
You are doing something wrong because this is weird.
Go to start>settings>connection>connections>tasks>add new connection>
name...anything, access point.....airtelgprs.com / internet (for idea ) / aircelgprs etc.
Done.
Launch browser , it should connect if you have data plan / enough credit.
kalya said:
Which network?
Prepaid/postpaid?
Did you add a new connection manually yet it won't work?
You are doing something wrong because this is weird.
Go to start>settings>connection>connections>tasks>add new connection>
name...anything, access point.....airtelgprs.com / internet (for idea ) / aircelgprs etc.
Done.
Launch browser , it should connect if you have data plan / enough credit.
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Hi
Thanks for your suggestions.
Im using airtel network. and all those settings are already set on my phone.
Yes. I accept that my problem is weird. Thats the reason why I'm unable to find a solution for it.
Yet... I'm testing by changing various roms and still no success.
every time the problem repeats on 2-3 usages of gprs.
When I use opera browser it says that "I have some problem in settings". What to do I've checked those settings for hundreds of times and further if there is a problem in connection settings then why the heck it worked for the first few times?
Some stupid suggestions
Try same sim in another handset,
Try another sim or another network in THE Uni,
Try another cell tower area,
Because I have tried every single ROM ...shipped or cooked and this has nothing to do with GPRS getting disconnected.
As you said "I am the only one in the world with this problem" , means it cannot be a real problem , have faith , keep trying.
And for the warranty...Just flash the Original ROM and you are good again!
kalya said:
Try same sim in another handset,
Try another sim or another network in THE Uni,
Try another cell tower area,
Because I have tried every single ROM ...shipped or cooked and this has nothing to do with GPRS getting disconnected.
As you said "I am the only one in the world with this problem" , means it cannot be a real problem , have faith , keep trying.
And for the warranty...Just flash the Original ROM and you are good again!
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Hi
I did every experiment I can think of.... Including testing this sim on other phone or testing the other sim on this phone.
I even tried flashing the original T-mobile rom.
I also tried to find if the programs I install has something to do with the problem...but found none of it affects.
As you said it may not be a rom problem.
If it fails to work completely then I can guss some thing about the origin of the problem like rom or hardware or whatever...
As it is working well initially, I don't understand where exactly the problem lies...
have you done a doc-format? sometimes that can get rid of very peculiar problems.
-Jonny- said:
have you done a doc-format? sometimes that can get rid of very peculiar problems.
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Hi
Is the process of using mtty and task 28 55aa command what you call doc-format (sorry for ignorance)?
Then I've already did it...
anyway thanks for your suggestion...
I think the real culprit is activesync. anyway I have to do some tests and confirm.
To clear my doubt I decided to conduct a small test. I factory reset my system for three times to check the gprs connectivity...
First reset:
1. GPRS worked flawlessly.
2. On connecting to pc + pairing up + synchronizing problem reappeared.
second reset:
1. GPRS worked flawlessly.
2. On connecting to pc by pairing up problem reappeared.
First reset:
1. GPRS worked flawlessly.
2. On connecting to pc without pairing up problem reappeared.
So, this strengthened my assumption that the problem is with active sync.
I cannot confirm so easily...
Further I would use my phone with out connecting to PC for 3-4 days and check if problem reappears.
Then I would check it by connecting to a different PC. Then I can confirm whether the problem is with active sync of my system or the phone...
By the way, today is the second day of my testing without connecting to pc and no issues detected till now
folks,
Today on the fourth day of my test, I conclude that connecting to my pc creates the gprs problem. No Idea how and why...
suggestions any one?
anyhow I would connect my phone to a different pc and check out if the problem is with my pc or with the phone...
no suggestions?
How much space have you got on the phone after sync? The computer may be trying to sync to uni even though you are not aware of it.
How confident are you with dealing with your computer registry, I mean, if you are using a Windows PC that is. You should try to clear any traces of old pairings from the PC before connecting the Uni to it again and allowing it to do a fresh start. It may be loading all sorts of corrupted or duplicated data that are messing up with your system. Backup your registry first, just in case you mess it up by mistake, to be on the safe side. Then, get stuck in and search for the word activesync (or words to that effect in your language) on the registry and where it shows the pairing settings delete only the keys related to pairing with the Uni, then try connecting again. Hope this helps.
wovens said:
How much space have you got on the phone after sync? The computer may be trying to sync to uni even though you are not aware of it.
How confident are you with dealing with your computer registry, I mean, if you are using a Windows PC that is. You should try to clear any traces of old pairings from the PC before connecting the Uni to it again and allowing it to do a fresh start. It may be loading all sorts of corrupted or duplicated data that are messing up with your system. Backup your registry first, just in case you mess it up by mistake, to be on the safe side. Then, get stuck in and search for the word activesync (or words to that effect in your language) on the registry and where it shows the pairing settings delete only the keys related to pairing with the Uni, then try connecting again. Hope this helps.
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Hmm..Im sure that I deleted all the older files.. anyway let me I'll try this registry procedure... thanks for your suggestion

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