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Hi, I have a TMobile MDA Pro and i have purchased an in car charger so that I can use it with TomTom satnav unit, slight problem, unit does not charge when in the car. Bizarre, as when I use the standard USB Charge & Sync cable with PC happily syncs and charges with no issues. Anyone any ideas, does there have to be a specific setting on the unit to enable it to accept charge via the cigarette socket in car?
Many thanks
I found that to charge the universal, pins 4 and 5 in the mini USB plug need to get joined together - by default pin 5 is not connected to anything (well, wasn't in the cable I had). I've made that modification, and am powering a couple of devices of of a 2 port hub in the car.
Cheers,
Steve
Hi, sounds like a problem I am having and meaning to ask about.
I've got a USB cigy lighter adapter and tried plugging in the sync lead to provide power when it's in the car. So if I have my Exec in standby the charge light will come on (I think it charges sitting on the today screen, but not to sure) but as soon as I fire up tomtom the charging light goes off....
Does this sound like your problem, or are you not charging at all?
I'm interested in finding out what I need to charge the Exec while it's running tomtom? Anyone have any ideas?
Cheers
Matt
I'm pretty certain that I didn't get a charge light at all with my cable until I modified it, then it works, as expected, including in TomTom.
To confirm what I've got is:
- A Ciggy to USB socket adapter
- A two port hub plugged into the adapter
- Modified cable into the hub (along with an unmodified cable connected to my BT-77 GPS unit).
Plugging the cable (prior to modification) directly into the adapter, rather than the hub, didn't work either. The Brodit all-in-one adapter/cable worked fine (and I still have it intact, but not in use), but if memory serve, pins 4 & 5 appear to be connected. I used a multi-meter to try and find out why that one worked, and my combination didn't.
All of this stuff is wired in behind the centre console, so I've not got any unsightly wires, or anything.
Cheers,
Steve.
I think you need a car charger that can output 1000mA to charge the Universal. Same requirement also for an AC charger. 1000mA is what's important. Cheers
Hi, We have had quite a few customers with this issue, we advised and they have opted for the brodit active mounts which have the inbuilt cig chargers and it has cured the problem, or for the neater solution they went for the Molex hardwired versions to stash the cables behind the dash area,
The codes are: 968649 for the cig charger version or 971649 for the Molex hardwired version, http://www.dsldevelopments.com/brodit/holder/T-Mobile+MDA Pro-Brodit-Holder.asp
Hope that helps, drop me a line if you need any advice,
Thanks again
Bryson
Found 1A 5V car adapter
this is the only place I found off ebay that has a 1A car adapter
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/CAR-CIGAR-CIG...4QQihZ006QQcategoryZ15329QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
It works fine on my MDA Pro, just need to plug it in while it is off for it to start charging.. if turned on, then pluged in, then it won't start charging.
I even have an 800mA adapter, but that doesn't help the MDA Pro, it needs more power!
bryson said:
Hi, We have had quite a few customers with this issue, we advised and they have opted for the brodit active mounts which have the inbuilt cig chargers and it has cured the problem, or for the neater solution they went for the Molex hardwired versions to stash the cables behind the dash area,
The codes are: 968649 for the cig charger version or 971649 for the Molex hardwired version, http://www.dsldevelopments.com/brodit/holder/T-Mobile+MDA Pro-Brodit-Holder.asp
Hope that helps, drop me a line if you need any advice,
Thanks again
Bryson
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Hi there Bryson
The items you quoted are actually the charger and the holder for the PDA. I also notice from the link you provided that there are 2 cig chargers (items codes 942625 and 942650). Can I know what are the differences between these 2 models and would either of this chargers charge the Universal while it is running a navigation software such as TomTom or Garmin Que?
Also, do you ship to Singapore?
i got an OEM car charger for the O2 Exec and it does not seem to functiona as expected. here's why:
- when the o2 exec is turned on (either running a navigation program or not) and the car charger is plugged in, the o2 exec would not charge.
- when the o2 exec is turned off and the car charger is plugged in, the o2 exec can finally charge. however when i start a navigation program, it would show that it is charging but the battery capacity does not increase and after a while, the unit will automatically switch off after a while. while on battery the unit does not turn off automatically after some time.
is there a problem with my car charger or is this normal for all car chargers? is there any way to solve it?
all help rendered is much appreciated.
I've had very mixed results with twelve different models of aftermarket car and mains chargers for the Exec.
The models that list their output at about 550mA seem to exhibit the troubles you mention - you need to switch on the Exec after the charger is working and even then with a high drain their output is not enough to power and charge the Exec at the same time.
The models rated as 1A output seem able to power the Exec and charge it at the same time. The o2 supplied mains charger is rated at 1A.
I've seen similar things with computer USB ports, especially laptops.
Thanks astage for your input.
The thing with the car charger that I have is that it is actually rated at 1000mA or 1A and thus I thought it should not pose such a problem. But apparently it does. Is there any way for me to check what is the exact output for the car charger? I am kinda alien to electronics and circuits board.
The thing is that You ll have to get special charging USB cable. I was trying 4 cables and finally 5th was working - it was cable for xda-2. Try it for Yourself.
It have something to do with wiring 5th line - normall usb cable have 4 lines connected.
Aha - one more thing - Your original Universal cable wont work ...
best regards,
Piotr E
Could you tell me where you bought it? Was it an online shop or a physical shop?
I would like to get a car charger that works with the O2 Exec when I am running navigational programs such as Garmin Que and TomTom. I have tried more than 5 chargers but no luck thus far.
If anyone has any to recommend, do let me know. I am located in Singapore.
i use my car charger from my gps that is the Holux 236, the only think i have to do so that it starts charging is turn it off on the button and the led will change to orange, i have tried one other charger that has a usb plug and it worked fine ! So has long as it has a usb plug you'll be alright and if you do not find one look for the Motorola car plugs that it will probably work on Uni since it has a mini usb plug
The charger from M3000 works fine with my Uni
And the Motorola Mini-USB chargers doesn't work...
Hi, I found that this issue is connected with proper usb cable not with charger itself (usb mini have 5 connector but in some cables only 4 are connected and in some other cables all 5 are connected and so are the difference). I was also trying many chargers and no luck. But I ve tryied charger with other cable and suddenly all chargers start charging my jasjar.
Anyway, the bad thing is it stops whitout any reason so now charging jasjar in my car is a real mystery for me.
regards,
Piotr
Be careful if buying one with a double USB output - I bought a few different models hoping to power both Exec and the Holux GPSlim-236, but all failed. They would power the Exec, but as soon as the Holux was connected, it would always cause the Exec to continually reboot - fortunately "soft". Make sure the supplier will take them back if it doesn't work.
Try a car charger with a USB socket on the end that takes a separate Sync/Charge cable.
The problem is, the exec is very power hungry, especially when the batt is dead !! you need a high current charger at least 1A (1 amp) the charger used with the blackberry (I forget which model) is suitable as is the genuine exec charger obviously.
use O2 Atom car charge
O2 Atom car charge will work with O2 Exec as well as A/C charger from Atom
Exec/SPV car charger...
Got an o2 branded one today for the Exec/Mini - works like a charm (Charges my SPV and runs Tt at the same time) but cost me £14.99 for the privelage!
could you post a link to the website? I would love to purchase one but am currently located in Singapore and so far all the charges don't seem to work for me.
vapor said:
I would like to get a car charger that works with the O2 Exec when I am running navigational programs such as Garmin Que and TomTom. I have tried more than 5 chargers but no luck thus far.
If anyone has any to recommend, do let me know. I am located in Singapore.
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I have one brand new that Imate sent me for a delayed process when i got my JASJAR repaired.Never used it either.Let me know if you are interested.Regards
southernint3l said:
I have one brand new that Imate sent me for a delayed process when i got my JASJAR repaired.Never used it either.Let me know if you are interested.Regards
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I would love it but can you confirm that it would charge the phone while running navigational programs?
You can email me at [email protected] to discuss the price and shipping.
vapor said:
I would love it but can you confirm that it would charge the phone while running navigational programs?
You can email me at [email protected] to discuss the price and shipping.
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Yes it does.I have TOM TOM navigation and IGO that i use.I have a 3800 Li-Ion battery.I plugged it in to see if it worked and it does.Has a green light and all.I will email you tmw.As i have just got done with a long day of data entry for work.FYI
Whatever you are doing with the phone,it charges while its plugged in.
southernint3l said:
Yes it does.I have TOM TOM navigation and IGO that i use.I have a 3800 Li-Ion battery.I plugged it in to see if it worked and it does.Has a green light and all.I will email you tmw.As i have just got done with a long day of data entry for work.FYI
Whatever you are doing with the phone,it charges while its plugged in.
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sounds great. I have gotten your email and replied. Hope we can come to a decision soon and I can get my hands on the charger.
if anyone else has any for sale, do let me know as well.
Car Charger for UNI - how to make working
Hi All!
I've also tryed 2 diferent car chargers and 1 USB Pluggable Car Charger (some noname chineese 3-rd party) with 3 diferent cables, and one 3-rd party AC Power Charger. They ALL worked strange.
I can confirm that to make them all work I should:
1. Switch off the Universal;
2. Plug in the chgrer in to Universal;
3. Wait until the Red Light on.
Now I may turn the Universal On, and see the "Charging" battery status.
The reason and how to fix:
As you may see I used different adapters. All they have from 0.5 to 1.0A output circuit. But, the USB ports I used with my laptops have only 0.5A output and always start charging the Universal.
So, I dont think the output power is the reason.
The most likely - it is the "5-th pin" issue, which is mentioned above here. Can somebody provide information about power connection for the Universal?
It seems the solution is about to interconnect/short circuit 2 wires in the car adapter' cable to make the Universal charging in a usual way with any of my (your) "non-working" car adapters.
Also, I've noticed, that in a case the battery level around 30% and I plug in the "non working adapter" and no red light and system not is in the "Charging" state -- the battery is charging anyway!
Also, let me remind you about another issue that the Universal have: Active Sync (older versions) would not sync (USB Device not recognized error) if you plug in the Universal if the power is On.
To workaround that you have to switch off the Universal, plug the cable and after that you could successfully sync. The same symptoms? May be the same reason?
I would advice anybody not to mess with interconnections in USB, I mean stop soldering and checking because its shortest road to bricking Your precious jasjar. It can be done with proper cable and you have to find the right one ;-)
Secondly - I found that jasjar Rom is also responsible for charging issues. As I stated earlier I finally found good usb cable but later on I lost an ability to charge Uni. in the car. After upgrading to the Aku3.2 rom it start to charge immidiatelly. Same charger and cable - one time it charge, second time it dont. So additionally to cable theres something with soft with preventing Uni. from charging.
man why is it such a complicated issue to get the universal to charge? and it seems that this charging problem only happens to the universal and not any other device, am i right?
nabuhonodozor said:
I would advice anybody not to mess with interconnections in USB, I mean stop soldering and checking because its shortest road to bricking Your precious jasjar. It can be done with proper cable and you have to find the right one ;-)
Secondly - I found that jasjar Rom is also responsible for charging issues. As I stated earlier I finally found good usb cable but later on I lost an ability to charge Uni. in the car. After upgrading to the Aku3.2 rom it start to charge immidiatelly. Same charger and cable - one time it charge, second time it dont. So additionally to cable theres something with soft with preventing Uni. from charging.
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YESSS! I Have upgraded to on of that Aku3.2 recently! May be it is the reason! But, my original Power adapter still charges my Uni so does the USB conndction to the laptop...
To ALL: Could you please confirm that you can use third-party adapters with the older ROMs?
hopefully we can get some updates soon.
Are all chargers alike?
Are all chargers the same? I would think that the USB power rating would be the same. So, I should be able to charge the Jasjar using a charger for a Motorola RAZR (if I weren't so afraid of blowing up the Jasjar)
I have look at the Motorola Chargers and it is the same USB b mini as the HTC can you use this charger for the HTC as I an not sore of the Volts
Thanks
Chris
it will work fine with that charger cable, same (5V) - Mike
It will work (my Orbit is plugged into the charger from my Motorola L2 as I type), but it's not just down to the voltage.
Both HTC and Motorola wire the mini USB in non standard ways - hence the HTC Artemis (and Hermes) also uses the mini USB for headphones, and the Motorola has a peculiarity that it will not charge from a cable plugged in to a laptop's USB port, but only from a mains powered adaptor. One of the pins (can't remember which one) is used to indicate whether the cable is being used for "charging" or "syncing".
So just because 2 devices both use mini USB at 5V does not necessarily mean that they can be charged from each other's chargers. I was originally thrilled to think that I could just bring a single charger on business trips to recharge my Artemis, L2 and BlackBerry. Then I found out that it's not quite so simple :-(
My big interest is the Energizer come out with Energi To Go with Mini USB instant cell phone charger this is good for emergences so if it works Motorola I hob it can work for my HTC
http://www.officedepot.com/ddSKU.do?level=SK&id=581663&N=200281&An=browse
Thanks all for the input
Chris
cttransnb said:
I have look at the Motorola Chargers and it is the same USB b mini as the HTC can you use this charger for the HTC as I an not sore of the Volts
Thanks
Chris
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This is my experience based on the years of practice and not on the theoretical "brainwork".
I have HTC P3300 and I even never unpack the wall charger and USB sync cable. I used to have Motorola MPx200 years ago (think it was 2003), since than I changed a couple of devices (Motorola MPx200->BlueAngel->Magician->Motorola A780->HTC P3300), but what stay unchanged is my wall charger. Yes it is charger of my old MPX200, it was plugged once to the mains plug in 2003 and never have been taken out, and all devices what I had after MPx200 were charged by this charger.
The same I can say about my car charger. It's traced back to 2003 and it's original Motorola MPx200 car charger(I think it's standard Motorola car charger for all miniUSB phones). Works flawlessly. I was recently in trip from Amsterdam to Milan and back and from Amsterdam to Malmo and back using the TomTom on P3300 and of course it was permanently charged by my "old" Motorola car charger. No problem at all.
In my business trips I use the Universal World charger which has usb port and I use USB-miniUSB absolutely unbranded cable to charge my all "mini USB" devices including P3300 and Motorola BT stereo headset.
Concerning the sync cable, it's even more dramatic because I use USB cable of my Sony CyberShot camera. And again, all devices what I used to have and what I have now, synchronize and charge with no problem with this cable.
Ok, it's my experience Maybe I'm just a lucky dog , but I certainly prefer to stay like this
Motorola Charger rocks
I have been charging my Artemis with my V3 charger and my V3 with the Artemis data cable for sometime now.
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I have been charging my Artemis with my V3 charger and my V3 with the Artemis data cable for sometime now.
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PLUS + I have also been able to sync using the V3 data cable too
i never experienced any problems using motorola charger or data cable with PDA (Universal & Artemis) and vice versa. Btw i use charger from moto bt HT820 for artemis as well.
only one prob. is moto charger has only 0.5A, so pda charges longer, or not(universal - higher power consum.) no prob with arte. HTC charger is 2A instead of 0.5A. BTW no prob to use 2A charger instead of 0.5A device "eats" only what it needs and is capable of, and maybe charges more quickly
Only Atom refused to charge with other chargers
So far only XDA Atom by Quanta has been a problem when it comes to charging it with other chargers However the activesync works with all mini usb cables. I also use my Canon camera cable for syncing sometimes
RalphLauren said:
This is my experience based on the years of practice and not on the theoretical "brainwork".
I have HTC P3300 and I even never unpack the wall charger and USB sync cable. I used to have Motorola MPx200 years ago (think it was 2003), since than I changed a couple of devices (Motorola MPx200->BlueAngel->Magician->Motorola A780->HTC P3300), but what stay unchanged is my wall charger. Yes it is charger of my old MPX200, it was plugged once to the mains plug in 2003 and never have been taken out, and all devices what I had after MPx200 were charged by this charger.
The same I can say about my car charger. It's traced back to 2003 and it's original Motorola MPx200 car charger(I think it's standard Motorola car charger for all miniUSB phones). Works flawlessly. I was recently in trip from Amsterdam to Milan and back and from Amsterdam to Malmo and back using the TomTom on P3300 and of course it was permanently charged by my "old" Motorola car charger. No problem at all.
In my business trips I use the Universal World charger which has usb port and I use USB-miniUSB absolutely unbranded cable to charge my all "mini USB" devices including P3300 and Motorola BT stereo headset.
Concerning the sync cable, it's even more dramatic because I use USB cable of my Sony CyberShot camera. And again, all devices what I used to have and what I have now, synchronize and charge with no problem with this cable.
Ok, it's my experience Maybe I'm just a lucky dog , but I certainly prefer to stay like this
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Confirmed
Motorola V3i charger - Motorola genuine car charger - Sony Mini DV usb cable - All O.K.
On the same theme, does anyoine know if the Orbit mains charger will work happily with an iPod? I have the Orbit, kid has the iPod, and we're about to go away. I'd like to just take the Orbit lead to charge both and save on buying an iPod charge lead. They're both mini USB. Thoughts?
I use HTC & Motorola Charger for following: Artemis, Universal, MPx200, Motorola Btooth Stereo - which one is the nearest, I use moto for Artemis and vice versa.
Actually mini USB chargers are mostly compatible with different devices. With the notable exception of the Blackberry devices. They seem to wire the connector in a different way and a Blackberry won't charge with a generic mini USB charger This is the only exception I've seen so far (MPX200, Qtek S110, Qtej 9100, Holux GPS, Artemis and Blackberry 8700v tested). I still use my Motorola car charger for my Artemis btw
TheOnly1 said:
Actually mini USB chargers are mostly compatible with different devices. With the notable exception of the Blackberry devices. They seem to wire the connector in a different way and a Blackberry won't charge with a generic mini USB charger This is the only exception I've seen so far (MPX200, Qtek S110, Qtej 9100, Holux GPS, Artemis and Blackberry 8700v tested). I still use my Motorola car charger for my Artemis btw
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From my experience, T-Mobile SDA also would not charge from Motorola mains charge, but Mororola MPx200 did it very good from SDA charger.
But it's already history I would surprise very much if I see the person with the first T-Mobile SDA in his hands ;-)
Simple solution
Cut open your USB lead, and connect just the red and black wires, they're the 5v+ (red) and - (black) lines - if the rest aren't conencted, all the devices will assume it's just plugged into a charger (of course yo can't use it for syncing or anything...)
This is also useful for car use - but any cheapo phone charger (5v) and connect a mini usb cable using the red and black...
krazr,and orbit charge fine with each other
even took the p**s and used a m8s tom tom charger to charge my orbit hehehe. worked a treat.
Hi,
I recently bought a car charger (actually, it's a 3-in-1 kit, with USB-2-miniUSB cable, plug-in car charger, and travel charger). This set seems not to work with my TyTn, but work perfectly with other HTC pda's - Touch, Cruise etc. However, that cable works nicely when plugged to PC.
Anyone have a clue? Maybe, I should change some power management settings in the TyTN?
Thanx
Hi,
I have the same problem.
Sometimes is charging O.K. (when the screen is off and Hermes is in Standby). But if I have a Phone Call, or if I use the car navigation, charging won´t work.
(Everythink was O.K. with WM5, I think, but WM6 and WM6.1 has this problem on my Hermes - I tried many ROMs, now I use CRCs PHKv12r9, Radio 1.47.30.10)
Get an inverter from Maplins http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=48723&criteria=inverter&doy=3m4 for £19.99 you can then use your home charger...
Ah OK scratch that idea I didn't look at the flags before posting...
I have one, but the question is, why car charger won´t work.
I use the inverter with everything up to 300W without any problems.
I dont understand WHY people have this problem.... I bought a CHEAP little car charger that allows me to use a usb cable. I plug in, leave for a minute or so and it starts charging. Make/ recieve calls, use GPS software and never have a problem. I would say that the charger was made good BUT its a generic "made in china" charger.... Must've been BLOODY LUCKY to find it...
I had this problem with mine, sometimes it would charge, other times it would need to be restarted before picking up the charger? This was using the same sort of charger that plugged into the lighter socket, then the USB-to-MiniUSB plugged into the charger.
I started using a spare charger for a TomTom One which worked perfectly.
In fact, I have 2 car chargers to which I plug USB-mini cable, both not working. I just wonder why... Can it be hardware or software problem? I suspect you all use WM6.... OK with WM5?
I can't find the post now, but there have been a couple of discussions about the charging issues with the TyTN. My TyTN is very picky about the charging cable. It has something to do with a requirement that the data pin in the USB cable either be connected to something live(like a computer) or that the data pin be jumpered to the ground pin.
I have tried a number of charging solutions and keep going back to the AT&T store for a charger that works. I have an external battery for my laptop from Battery Geek, Inc that has both a USB port on it and a mini USB charging cable. Both don't work with my TyTN but work with my wife's Wizard. Actually they work with my TyTN about 2% of the time, just enough to make me think it is going to work.
Someplace back in the archives I've seen a description of how to modify a USB charging cable to work with the TyTN, but I can't find it right now.
Rick
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