i've had my orbit for around a month and a half now, and it's brilliant other than a few problems.
firstly the only additional programs i've installed are:
SPB Diary
SPB Pocket Plus
I do have tomtom but i haven't re-installed that since my last hard reset.
so the problems are as follows:
every now and then when i try to unlock my phone, it seems to hang, with the screen staying bright but no response no matter what i try - the obvious solution is to soft reset which works 9/10 times
however, occasionally, i get a problem where the soft reset does not work correctly. The O2 screen appears (as expected) but about 1 second after the windows mobile screen appears, the screen goes completely dark and will not come on....
This has happened many times (sometimes on a daily basis) and the only solutaion i had worked out was to hard reset and take it back to factory settings - very annoying having to go through everything altering my settings so frequently following a hrd reset.
This problem also occured just a minute ago. i decided to do a hard reset and plugged the phone into my laptop so i could synchronise all my contacts back on. However i plugged it in before a hard reset was performed. Magically the screen lit back up! i was overjoyed, thinking i'd found a solution! so i unplugged it happily. thinking i wouldn't have to hard reset but the screen goes black as soon as i unplug it from the laptop...
i have since changed the brightness settings so that it's always on full brightness. this seems to have worked and avoided me the hassle of a hard reset. However i fear this is only a temporary solution
So my questions are:
is it common for the Orbit to hang regularly, causing me to perform around 1 soft reset per day??
Are the programs i have listed known to cause such problems?
Also has anyone else had such problems?
I've considered sending the phone back for an exchange for a new orbit? is this a good idea or may i expect the same with another, newer orbit (i've neverr really had a pda/phone before so i'm a little bit of a noob in this area!)
THANKS for any help, will be much appreciated!
CHEERS!
It sounds like a faulty Orbit to me. Although I did run SPB Pocket Plus on my Orbit I found it so sluggish with the Orbits slow processor that I removed it and haven't used it for months.
What happens if you:
1) Hard reset
2) Remove Active sync from your computer by the usual PC "add/remove" programs, and then go into the appropriate PC directory and manually remove what's left
3) Re-boot PC
4) Reinstall Active sync (which version are you using? I found AS 4.2 stable in a Win XP Home environment, syncing with Outlook 2002, then more latterly with Outlook 2007
5) Just synchronise your Outlook basics i.e. Contacts, Calendar, Tasks and nothing else.
6) If you use a Micro SD card install the HTC SD Card patch (see links elswhere in the forum for the patch)
If this setup is stable for a day or two, then try adding sometheng else back on, avoiding Pocket Plus for the moment.
If the basic setup is unstable, I suggest your Orbit is faulty. Mine runs quite stably, and currently running in a Vista Ultimate environment without problem.
It sounds like a faulty Orbit to me. Although I did run SPB Pocket Plus on my Orbit I found it so sluggish with the Orbits slow processor that I removed it and haven't used it for months...........
Can a Moderator please remove this duplicate, I've no idea why it happened!
i have good news (kind of)! after upping the backlight in system settings the screen does not appear to go blank anymore.
i tested this by turning the brightness down - the screen (almost) instantly went blank and would not come back on after a soft reset.. however i took it home, plugged it in (my settings are for full brightness when attatched to a power source, in the test i only changed the brightness when not connected to a power source) re-adjusted the brightness and it works fine again now - in the past, this would have called for a hard reset due to the screen refusing to come on!
I've since found another thread on the forum from another user who seemed to have the screen going blank problem, he/she also cited turning up the brightness (even though that sounds obvious!) as the solution - which is strange as the screen doesn't go dimmer as such, it goes completely black, i cannot see anything at all!
however i have had a crash still...
to answer the above, i am running:
AS 4.2, as mentioned
XP media centre edition
AMD Turion 64 X2
and i have installed the SD corruption fix , even when i first got the phone and hadn't installed it SD never corrupted though (newer build maybe??)
I don't really use outlook to sync emails anyway - the only things i sync are the basics that u mentioned (including notes as well, sorry). i don't think there is much point in doing a hard reset as i think i only cleared everything around 2/3 days ago.
i will however remove spb pocket plus for the mean while, do u think i should also remove spb diary whilst i'm at it to ensure the device is completely clean?
i would like to point out however pocket plus is not running all that slow at all... the reason i installed pocket plus was for the closing of a program when the "x" is clicked, rather than minimising them (as is standard!).
Anybody know any registry fixes for this so i need not install any additional programs to access this feature? or at a push, a smaller program that offers only a minimal set of features including this specific one?
One thing i have noticed, is that the more programs i install the more likely it is to crash, this seems trend seems to occur irregardless of which particular software i have installed (which is why, for the moment, i havent even reinstalled tomtom - i'm just leaving all the installation and maps on my SD card for when i need them!)
The problem is, as of yet, i have not worked out whether previously i had to hard reset simply because the screen didn't come and i had not resolved this issue yet, on or due to something else - however, each time i had to hard reset the screen would go dark and unresponsive! As i said though, the stalls and soft resets continue for the time being!
thanks for the continued help
D'OH!
screen just went blank, and no response from device, guess my solution of upping the brightness settings has only improved the problem, not resolved it!
ARGH!
These Instructions are out of date, and may not work anymore.
-CarComp
EDIT POST ON 5-5-2010
INSTRUCTIONS ARE IN BOLD!!!!!!!
EDITS AND MY OPINIONS ARE IN ITALICS
Want google and not winmo but can't wade through all of the confusion offered up by the supergeeks of android linux? Well just do these steps. It took me an evening to figure out these steps, and could whip it up instantly now.
BTW - it REALLY helps to have a computer with an SDcard slot adapter that handles the micro-sd cards. I don't really recommend trying all this with a USB cable, b/c once you get to linux only, you will kinda be screwed cause it doesn't quite work the same like windows CE. Also that and you can't format through the phone, so just get an adapter ok? Stop right here if you don't have one and just order one or go to walmart and spend 10 bucks and get one. BTW, your micro sd card should have come with one when you bought it, so go look for it.
Ok how to get the super Eclair android into NAND and live a happy life....
1, CHARGE YOUR PHONE UP ALL THE WAY BEFORE ANYTHING. When done charging, unplug whatever is in your USB port for the rest of this procedure. Having phone plugged in while flashing = BAD
2, get hard spl on your phone.
3, Install Hyperdragon IOlite on your phone to get the radio(1.65.24.36) that I recommend, which will improve battery life and possibly other things that I don't know about. Get it here -> http://sakajati.com/blogs/2009/02/hyperdragon-iv-iolite-based-on-htc-iolite/
4, format your 1+ GB sdcard using fat32 only.
5, download polyrhythmics dark / light build for nand and sdcard.
put that SINGLE FILE (androidinstall.tgz) into a folder in the root of the SD-CARD called "andboot" - Get it here -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=600154
6, go to http://sourceforge.net/projects/androidhtc/files/ and download KAISIMG-PANEL2-320-TILT.NBH if you have an ATT tilt. If you have something else, download that NBH.
7, Rename that NBH file to "KAISimg.nbh". Put it in the root of your storage card.
8. Now you are ready to install to nand. Get out your stylus, hold down the camera and power button and press the reset button with the stylus. It should go to an updating screen. If you don't get a white screen with a progress bar, but instead it still shows tri color and says "serial" then you did something wrong. Start over from step 1. Once you get to 100%, wait 20 seconds or something (just for shihtz and giggles) and then pull out the battery.
9. Now, put it back in, press power and wait for android to start booting. You will know cause all this random looking text will go by. You have to be quick to do it, but press the middle button on the d-pad when it says 'press the middle button to enter setup' or soemthing like that. (EDIT: I've been told that you have to just hold the d-pad center button down. Either way, just get that button pushed when it says to push it).
You will be presented with some options. Make sure the little asterisk is on the "NAND" option.
10. Go to the install (first option) and tell it to overwrite everything. It may ask you twice.
Now it should go into a fix of text and waiting and hanging, but be patient. You should eventually see a colorful "X" for about 10 minutes. Go to eat, have a beer, leave the house for awhile. Go mow the yard. Just don't use the phone. When you come back, go through the inital setup (touch the android, and skip everything else. Don't set up anything.) Now go mow the yard again. After about 5-10 minutes goes by, come back and pull out the battery. Put it back in and push power.
Crap your pants at the speed NAND offers. Install some live desktops (I like the starfield warp drive one from the google market.)
BTW: If you mess up your phone doing this, blah blah its not my fault blah blah you probably shouldn't be on these forums etc. Just make sure you have HardSPL and you will be fine. I've flashed hundreds of roms hundreds of times. Just that one little step will make your life easier.
EDIT:
RADIO DETAILS:
I've heard a LOT about using the latest radio or whatever version 1.71 or soemthing. I run radio 1.65 just fine. I never upgraded it through out all of the android builds. I operate like this.. If you weren't having cell quality issues, GPS lock issues, or any other radio issues in WINMO, then android will be fine too. I've added a step to the process to install a specific winMO rom that has the radio that I use. If you don't like the fact that I'm telling people to use an older radio, so be it. I'm just spreading the word for what works REALLY well for me.
EDIT: (My thoughts on the panel 1 2 3 and the 320 or 428 or whatever...) Picking the right panel is like playing the 'cups and ball' game. if you know which one the ball is under, you will win. Well for you TILT users, the ball is under #2. I don't know why, but it is. If 2 doesn't work, use 1. Doesn't get simpler than that. As for the resolutions, just use the 320. Ya, some apps fit better on the higher res, but our screens don't support them really well, and its all blurry. Think of it like this..... using 4xx instead of 320 is like asking 3 pixels to display as 1, vs. one pixel displaying as one pixel very clearly. Polyrhymic has done a great job supporting our screen's native 320 size, so just use it.
EDIT: (An issue i've noticed with booting and having your phone plugged in). Android just won't do it on nand. You can charge your phone from a dead point for say 20 mins, unplug it, then turn it on, boot android then plug it back in. You can't plug it in, and turn it on. It gets stuck in some sort of USB status loop.
EDIT: (When your phone just sits there on the A N D R O I D text and won't boot). Seems like this has been happening a lot, for me too. I've found there are two ways to stop this, one is preventative... Don't let your phone go totally dead. The second, when you reboot your phone, press and hold dpad center, then just count to 10 and go to the QUIT option. 9 times out of 10 it will boot right up.
IF YOU HAVE ANY PROBLEMS, JUST REPEAT THE PROCESS.. Don't skip the full charge and installation of Hyperdragon first.
for may people on here, the fear of flashing isn't the problem. it's the missing features such as bluetooth, speakerphone and in some builds even camera.
I would LOVE to go nand. I hate not knowing if the problem is with the build or with the sucky sdcard.
but I need to revert back to winmo for bluetooth headset. once that or speakerphone works I am ON IT.
Nice, couldn't have said it better myself, a few small points, press and HOLD the centre button on Dpad, a quick press will not do it, I'd mention the radio version too, but those are not major issues, and can be sorted easily enough
Good advice about the card reader and adaptor, those two saved my ass a few times in the early days of Nand flashing, I keep a good stock winmo kaisimg.nbh on a spare SD card, you only need a 128Mb one for a stock rom.
Yes there are install instructions on the build posts, but a lot of the info is now spread though some 2000+ posts, so having it all in easy terms helps a load.
I have a question. What is the different those PANEL1, PANEL2 and PANEL3? And the following number 320 - 428 - 480?
And one more silly question, is Tilt the one without 3G camera?
Thx for the instruction, it is easy to understand and so helpful!
added info about panel stuff to the instructions
It is not a fear of flashing in NAND It is just the issue that not all the features works...CAMERA,Bluetooth, voicesearch, so when the features will work than probably everybody will change I know i will ))
my problem is, that i cant get to boot the android for the second time. it just hangs in first screen after booting and thats it...
tried to pull out the battery for 10minutes and still nothing...
Disturbed21 said:
It is not a fear of flashing in NAND It is just the issue that not all the features works...CAMERA,Bluetooth, voicesearch, so when the features will work than probably everybody will change I know i will ))
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agreed, currently no gps working map that can be rely such as garmin that can work on winmo.. 1 disadvantage of android.. need to be online to get route..
Kurt Cobain said:
I have a question. What is the different those PANEL1, PANEL2 and PANEL3? And the following number 320 - 428 - 480?
And one more silly question, is Tilt the one without 3G camera?
Thx for the instruction, it is easy to understand and so helpful!
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320-428-480 là chỉ độ phân giải đó bạn.
320 is a resolution of 240X320 and the 480 is a resolution of 320X480
Mình biết được chừng đó thôi
Created another edit to the 1st post.
I'm not saying that android doesn't have its shortcomings, I'm just offering a quick means to get to NAND without trying to comprehend the whole thing in the traditional sense of reading 200 threads.
BTW my radio is 1.65.24.36
Maranevin, try flashing Hyperdragon IOlite first. Maybe a radio switch will prod your phone into the correct direction.
Errr, for newbs who don't know how to properly unlock their device isn't this dangerous? There IS a possibility of bricking your phone if you don't know what you're doing -- right?
Anyway, I would also mention that if you or your phone can't do 3G don't flash to NAND yet. The radio can't be instructed to use GSM only with the current poly build (and any other I have tried so far)
I totally agree with mnjm9b, the problem is not flash the phone, the problem is that there are many things that do not. In particular I am very happy with the performance of 2.1g polymod to date is the best I've worked.
carcomp thanks for the help, very good summary.
aikeru, if someone is flashing a phone, they probably know the risks. Its not my fault if they do something stupid. Is it autozone's fault if I buy specialty tools and ruin my engine changing a timing chain?
Anyways, I don't get the 3g thing. We have hardly any 2g or whatever is below 3g here in Mulberry Indiana and my android works fine.
Like I said, maybe i've found that magic mix of things that works really darn good.
BTW: major argument for using android.....
First of all, i'm not borg. I have yet to really get into bluetooth. I own two earpieces and the only good thing i've found is you can talk on the phone in freezing weather with you hands in your pockets. Bluetooth to mute car radios is cool, but I have a 20 year old car. I don't need bluetooth for file transfer cause i've got wifi, and SD CARD.
Second, as for the speakerphone, it never really was that loud anyways. I came from a hermes, which has a speaker like the voice of god, so i've never been impressed with the kaiser speakerphone.
Third, the camera... I have a nikon D60 with a speedlight for taking stills and lowlights, and a Kodak Z612 in my wife's purse most all the time for the past 3 years for video and spot shooting. All this data easily goes onto the micro sd card and into the phone.....
carcomp said:
10. Go to the install (first option) and tell it to overwrite everything. It may ask you twice.
Now it should go into a fix of text and waiting and hanging, but be patient. You should eventually see a colorful "X" for about 10 minutes. Go to eat, have a beer, leave the house for awhile. Go mow the yard. Just don't use the phone. When you come back, go through the inital setup (touch the android, and skip everything else. Don't set up anything.) Now go mow the yard again. After about 5-10 minutes goes by, come back and pull out the battery. Put it back in and push power.[/B]
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I've done all step above, just when i did this After about 5-10 minutes goes by, come back and pull out the battery. Put it back in and push power. it started back to Step 9 when i had to 'press the middle button to enter setup'.
So, i skipped that step, and then later everytime i tried to press reset button, the phone is freeze, then i had to started over again...
In some cases, my OK button became to POWER button...
And at first time, WIFI was OK, then it showed Unable to start Wi-Fi
Any suggestion for my troubles?
Thank you!!
Great!!
Hi all, Great!! I am now running Android on my kaiser and I love it!!!
Just a couple of questions for people who can answer them:
- How to change phisycal keyboard layout? I mean, some keys that I have in blue aren't the same I have on my keyboard...
- Is there any means to connect to a pc to transfer contacts and files?
Thank you all!!
Gnatto
Maranevim said:
my problem is, that i cant get to boot the android for the second time. it just hangs in first screen after booting and thats it...
tried to pull out the battery for 10minutes and still nothing...
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Same problem here. Someone please help. My device is now a worthless brick!!!!
Ok when this happens (its happened to me), first of all don't panick. If you've installed hardspl you are protected, and besides, just cause your phone won't boot android doesn't mean its bricked, it just means its not booting android.
There can be a multitude of things causing this, but the #1 reason I think is "Just because thats how it is"
First of all, don't boot your phone with it plugged in. Ever. Charge it first, then boot it, or charge it enough to make it through boot then plug it in when it reaches android.
Second, sometimes during boot, it just hangs where it says A N D R O I D, or some other text. You can get around this by resetting with stylus, then pressing the center dpad button, then just counting to 10 or 20 or some random number that makes you happy, then select quit. It should boot.
Thanks. Fortunately I unbricked it by putting the KAISDIAG.NBH file onto the SD card, then booted it. This unbricked it. I also put the the KAISIMG.NBH for the Android on here and it booted into the installer. My problem now is that when I click install to NAND, it says it has an error extracting from the SD card for the android installer. It then quits back to the main install screen. I think it is a permissions error since it says on the screen something about being read only. If anyone could help me, I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks.
Oh and btw, I never had usb plugged in since mine is broken.
Ok well you are on the right track. Before you do anything else though, flash a copy of windows Mobile. Either take your pick, or use hyperdragon. Its very complete ... radio / ext rom etc. Next, try reformatting your SD card using windows. Do a complete format, not a quick one. That might help. Now reflash using the link to kaisnbh that i posted.
Remember, installing windows mobile is your NAND reset. Its lot like an sdcard where you can just erase everything. You have to put something else there that is radically different. I may be wrong about this, but it seems to be the case more often than not.
You may be one of the special case people who have a weird phone that takes one of the other KAISimg.nbh files too, so don't discount that. Also since you have hardspl, and you are flashing from the sdcard, you phone is probably NOT going to brick, and even if it does screw up royally, if you can still get to tri color, you can fix it.
Ok. That's great to know. I'll try what you stated. Do I need to partition my SD card? Thanks again. I really appreciate the help.
This is the third time I have had this problem. Randomly my phone slows down to a halt, the data connection does not work, most setting icons take 10 minutes to load if they do at all yet my texts still work.
There are NO apps running in the task manager.
I have removed most of my programs.
My mods are just removing the TF3D crap, nothing serious.
My stock task manager icon is missing from the top right.
and when I rebooted the phone I would get two errors, one with opera and the other with ~pcom-something.exe"
The other times I reset to unit to "factory out of the box" but I am sick of resetting up the phone with my apps, mods and such.
Has anyone seen this before?
What rom do you have on your phone ? What do you mean by removing all the tf3d crap? And have you flashed different roms without using task29 in between? It sounds like its time to task29 and reflash.
Sorry, I removed the TF3D stuff with mostly registry edits. I am still on a stock 6.1 rom.
Well, it could be pretty work-intensive to try and track down exactly whats causing your slowdowns and freezes, and since you have had to keep on hard resetting it, I would think that you dont really have much to lose by flashing a new rom. If you like the stock 6.1, you could just download it from the Windows Mobile Rom Developement subforum. Alls you would have to do is hard spl your phone and then flash it, it should take less than an hour start to finish, including downloading the rom.
Also:
My stock task manager icon is also missing from the top right.
and when I rebooted the phone I would get two errors, one with opera and the other with ~pcom-something.exe"
I can set this back to a stock ROM with the phone itself and I have all my apps on my card. Doing all the registry things is a pain only because I did not memorize them... YET, haha.
Is there a better task manager to see whats eating up resources?
If you're running the ROM that actually came stock on the Tilt II, then the hot fixes for the issues you are describing can be found here on HTC's website.
http://www.htc.com/us/support/tilt-2-att/downloads/
I'm on verizon, will it matter?
Mother F-er.
Just rebooted to try and get the errors again and instead got this:
"The device is unable to boot because either you have turned off the device incorrectly or tired to install an application from untrusted source.
Press Volume Up to reset your device or press any other button to cancel.
The operation will delete all of your personal data and restore the device to it's factory default settings."
I guess my decision is made, but wow I am not happy. This phone may go into a lake.
... edit:
Volume up does not do anything. AWEsome.
Yeah it matters, here are some Hot fixes for you're touch pro II. Don't know if they will help ya though: http://www.htc.com/www/supportdownloadlist.aspx?p_id=250&act=sd&cat=all
I took the battery out again and put it back in. Same message and the volume up did not work again.
So I pressed volume up about 100 times then held down the power button. Nothing changed.
Then.... I slide open the keyboard and closed it. Put the unit down and about 45 seconds later I heard all 100 volume up presses in a row. The stock WM volume menu was over the windows boot screen, and then the task bar showed up. Then the unit shut off and rebooted but took forever. It looked normal , but SLOW.
Now:
"A problem has occurred with Opera9.exe"
then:
"A problem has occurred with cprog.exe"
WTF is going on. I have not installed/uninstalled ANYthing for weeks.
set the phone to factory defaults last night and changed everything back. Meh.
Thanks for the ideas guys and I will be doing those "hotfixes" very soon!
Cheers,
Dan
Well, this phone is doing it yet again.
It barely works.
everytime I press something it takes between 5 seconds and 1 minute to do it.
i have no signal
most programs do not even try to start
resets change nothing (done this about 100 times today)
What the hell is going on with this phone? This was just as random. Was working as normal until around noon and then it just slowed way down and I could not make calls or answer them.
Grr.
so:
when I reboot the phone, I have the green start up screen for ~5 minutes.
the phone does not work after it fully starts up.
I can not open "remove programs"
I do not have the task manager in the top task bar, but when I go into settings and open task manager, there is nothing running.
I run "cleanRAM" on level 3 and there is no change.
It is still very slow I have not installed anything new at all, so this sudden change reasoning is unknown. This may be my last windows phone as I am growing tired of these random major failures.
Well verizon sent me a new phone.
*PHUCK*, its WM6.5 and I hate it.
Just a quick note to say to anyone thinking of buying the Nut Pro to use in Europe: It definitely works in the UK. I am on the PlusNet (EE) network, living in the UK and the 'phone works very well. I am getting 4G (when available) and had no problems getting the phone to register on the network, just put the SIM in, switched on and was connected straight away.
Almost everything on the 'phone appears to work correctly. The weather app looks lovely but struggles to locate me (it thinks I'm in a city 60+ miles away) but I can live with that. Many of the apps I transferred from my old 'phone that were then installed from the Smartisan app store didn't work correctly so I ended up deleting them and re-installing them from the Google Play Store which was very easy to install. They then worked without problems. The Smartisan browser has a home page that is full of Chinese news and/or links to Chinese web pages, which I can't seem to change, although it works well in all other respects. I have a preference for Opera on my 'phone so I use this in preference to the Smartisan installed one meaning this isn't a problem anyway.
Everything else? It all works really. I haven't found anything that doesn't work properly that I can recall. The music player app forgets what it was playing after a Bluetooth device has been disconnected from it which means I have to open the music player to re-start the music, again not a huge issue anyway.
If you were thinking of buying the Nuts Pro I can't recommend it more. It is one of the most wonderful 'phones I've ever had. The modifications made to the Android OS make everything more beautiful to do and add so much style to the operation of the whole 'phone. This is a wonderful device, I absolutely love it. Don't let the fact that it isn't officially supported in Europe put you off. Assuming you can speak English (no other European languages are installed) you should have no problems, network support not withstanding.
What's the camera quality like... I've heard good things about it. Is it rooted?
Sorry, as you probably can tell, I don't visit often enough to respond to questions in a timely fashion.
Regarding the camera question (probably long forgotten by the poster) the quality is good. Every 'phone I get I take some comparison shots of local landmarks to compare them too.
If I was to rate it against 'phones that you might have experienced, and score them out of ten:
Blackberry Priv. 10
Huawei P9. 9
SmartisanNut Pro. 8
Sincere apologies for not responding until six months after your question, sorry.
Since the most recent update to the software (V 6.0.0.1) my 'phone battery has been draining itself overnight, from 70% or more at bedtime to 0% by breakfast.
I have been trying for two days to downgrade the software to a previous one, with little success. I've actually today ordered an inexpensive 'phone to reluctantly replace the Smartisan (I still absolutely love the 'phone). Not an hour after I placed my order, you guessed it, I finally managed the magic combination of key presses required to enter recovery mode.
In a few steps, here's how I did it:
1. Download a full copy of the Smartisan OS, I used V 4.1.0.2 as I had a copy of this saved on my iMac already. According to the (Chinese) Smartisan Forum, 3.7.9 is favoured, but I didn't have a copy of that. File size for this file is around 1.8Gb
2. Copy the downloaded .Zip file to the root drive of the Smartisan internal storage.
3. Turn off the 'phone screen by pressing and holding the 'Home' button. [Not sure if turning off the screen using the 'Home' button is important, if it is you might have to enable this option in the button shortcuts settings]
4. Press and hold: Volume+, Volume-, Power and Home. Ignore any prompts on the screen to power down. Keep all four buttons pressed in until the 'phone switches off.
5. As soon as the boot logo (Hammer icon) appears on the screen, release all buttons.
6. Use the Volume +/- buttons to select 'Update System from SD' then press the power button.
7. Use the Volume +/- buttons to navigate to the location that you saved the update file to. [This is why it is recommended to save it in the root directory of the 'phone storage]
8. Press the Power button to start the update.
The whole time to update took about 5 minutes or so, then I had to select 'Reboot'. The boot time took a little longer than normal but once rebooted all my apps were in place, almost everything worked normally, immediately.
Some of the Google apps (including the Smartisan Mail and Calendar apps which I have linked to a Google Account) failed to sync which concerned me for a while. I simply deleted my Google account from the 'phone and then set up the account again and my Email, Contacts and Calendar all returned.
I did not wipe the cache, return to factory settings or anything else as I was hoping not to have to re-install all my apps and accounts one by one again if I could help it. As the underlying "Android" OS is still V7 between the V4 and V6 Smartisan OS versions, I hoped this wouldn't be needed. Perhaps other people won't be so lucky.
I'd already ordered a replacement 'phone so if I'd bricked the Smartisan, I'd be upset, but not I wouldn't be without a 'phone.
I would suggest you back up everything important to you, before trying this downgrade as it is possible you will be left with a totally non-working 'phone.
I do still really like the 'phone. If reinstalling a previous operating system fails to cure the problem of the excessive battery consumption I shall be really sorry.
One of the previous updates to the system added a very effective Face Unlock feature. It is possible that this isn't very secure, I have no way to tell, but it works reliably (unless the light is coming from behind me) and I've not found a way of fooling using pictures, photographs or other people.
First of all thanx to mkstevo for opening this topic. I own three Nut Pro phones and they really are wonderful devices. My story is a bit more complicated so maybe it will help someone. I gave a red Nut Pro 4/64 to my girlfirend. It was updated to the latest Smartisan OS OTA (6.X). After only a few days the phone restarted by itself and displayed only Smartisan logo. If you connected it to pc, red notification blinked for a few times (never a good sign).
With my experience with flashing i sensed the phone didn't have a hardware error but it was connected with sw. And also the thought you could never actually brick Snapdragon phones to the point of no return kept me optimistic.
I could get into recovery but couldn't load a rom onto my internal storage. The sd card and OTG usb drive were not recognized (no matter how i formatted them). I could only use adb sideload which was working but the end result was always 0. SO no progress.
It is really hard to find any info or rom about this phone, but unbrick guides are virtually non existent. After hours of Google translate I found a link on a russian site to this rom which should be QFIL flashable (pass: 5pn2) After downloading it for 2 days a lot of captchas and jdownloader sessions i got the rom from baidu.
Next challenge was to put the Nut Pro into EDL (i already had a edl cable prepared). It turns out you should press volume+, volume- and edl button when starting the device and when Smartisan logo appears - you should let them all go. The device starts blinking red constantly and you have Qualcomm Qloader 9008 in the device manager.
After that i loaded the firehouse and xml files and the flashing actually proceeded to the end with success. But the phone still didn't boot up but rather went straight into Smartisan recovery. Something told me to try and "adb sideload" one last time. Not really expecting anything I took the oldest rom i could find (3.6) and sideloaded it and this time adb sideload said success and 1. And to my surprise the device booted up normally.
I do not know what caused the crash. Maybe it was an incompatibility with some app or just a bug in the latest version of Smartisan OS. After 2 weeks of use we couldn't recreate the problem. Other 2 devices are also running fine. EDL flashing obviously reached the partitions that were messed up and couldn't be repaired otherwise.
SO if you ever run into a problem, this is probably the only source you can find about this phone. And it's a great phone, a joy to use and something totally different software wise. There are newer and better Smartisans out, but this one is fairly cheap, has a great screen, great battery, solid camera and is build like nothing on the market.
p.s.
if anybody has a hard time finding roms on bbs.smartisan or on their official site, here is a collection of Nut Pro roms.
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The link is broken, smartisan nut pro firmware