Mini usb with on/off switch - JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Accessories

I really don't like the fact the mini usb charges the JJ everytime I do a sync etc. My experience with lots of devices (other Smartphones and BT headsets) is that when the batteries are new you really don't want to charge the batteries for 5/10 min at a time (I know the theory around Lithium Ion batteries but theory and practice do vary and my experiments with two Nokia batteries in my Nok 9500 have proved me right). So is there a mini USB cable that allow one to switch off the charging or does WM5 allow this in s/w?

Hi
This is not my expirience, never had problems with my batteries on any of my pocket pc'es and they have been in the cradle when ever possible.
however if you want to avoid it, you might consider running activesync over bluetooth or bluetooth?

Bluetooth or wireless lan that was

Bluetooth or wireless lan that was

abp
Yeh, got the BT working after a while. This is my best choice (no WiFi sync with AS 4/4.1)
My Treo 650 gives three days from the battery (my Nokia 9500 gives me over 2 days and it has wifi & BT) and it is on 24hrs a day and BT is on 10 hours a day. This is because I am very careful about how I look after my batteries in the first week or two.

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Where can I buy a working car charger for the Exec?

I would like to get a car charger that works with the O2 Exec when I am running navigational programs such as Garmin Que and TomTom. I have tried more than 5 chargers but no luck thus far.
If anyone has any to recommend, do let me know. I am located in Singapore.
i use my car charger from my gps that is the Holux 236, the only think i have to do so that it starts charging is turn it off on the button and the led will change to orange, i have tried one other charger that has a usb plug and it worked fine ! So has long as it has a usb plug you'll be alright and if you do not find one look for the Motorola car plugs that it will probably work on Uni since it has a mini usb plug
The charger from M3000 works fine with my Uni
And the Motorola Mini-USB chargers doesn't work...
Hi, I found that this issue is connected with proper usb cable not with charger itself (usb mini have 5 connector but in some cables only 4 are connected and in some other cables all 5 are connected and so are the difference). I was also trying many chargers and no luck. But I ve tryied charger with other cable and suddenly all chargers start charging my jasjar.
Anyway, the bad thing is it stops whitout any reason so now charging jasjar in my car is a real mystery for me.
regards,
Piotr
Be careful if buying one with a double USB output - I bought a few different models hoping to power both Exec and the Holux GPSlim-236, but all failed. They would power the Exec, but as soon as the Holux was connected, it would always cause the Exec to continually reboot - fortunately "soft". Make sure the supplier will take them back if it doesn't work.
Try a car charger with a USB socket on the end that takes a separate Sync/Charge cable.
The problem is, the exec is very power hungry, especially when the batt is dead !! you need a high current charger at least 1A (1 amp) the charger used with the blackberry (I forget which model) is suitable as is the genuine exec charger obviously.
use O2 Atom car charge
O2 Atom car charge will work with O2 Exec as well as A/C charger from Atom
Exec/SPV car charger...
Got an o2 branded one today for the Exec/Mini - works like a charm (Charges my SPV and runs Tt at the same time) but cost me £14.99 for the privelage!
could you post a link to the website? I would love to purchase one but am currently located in Singapore and so far all the charges don't seem to work for me.
vapor said:
I would like to get a car charger that works with the O2 Exec when I am running navigational programs such as Garmin Que and TomTom. I have tried more than 5 chargers but no luck thus far.
If anyone has any to recommend, do let me know. I am located in Singapore.
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I have one brand new that Imate sent me for a delayed process when i got my JASJAR repaired.Never used it either.Let me know if you are interested.Regards
southernint3l said:
I have one brand new that Imate sent me for a delayed process when i got my JASJAR repaired.Never used it either.Let me know if you are interested.Regards
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I would love it but can you confirm that it would charge the phone while running navigational programs?
You can email me at [email protected] to discuss the price and shipping.
vapor said:
I would love it but can you confirm that it would charge the phone while running navigational programs?
You can email me at [email protected] to discuss the price and shipping.
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Yes it does.I have TOM TOM navigation and IGO that i use.I have a 3800 Li-Ion battery.I plugged it in to see if it worked and it does.Has a green light and all.I will email you tmw.As i have just got done with a long day of data entry for work.FYI
Whatever you are doing with the phone,it charges while its plugged in.
southernint3l said:
Yes it does.I have TOM TOM navigation and IGO that i use.I have a 3800 Li-Ion battery.I plugged it in to see if it worked and it does.Has a green light and all.I will email you tmw.As i have just got done with a long day of data entry for work.FYI
Whatever you are doing with the phone,it charges while its plugged in.
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sounds great. I have gotten your email and replied. Hope we can come to a decision soon and I can get my hands on the charger.
if anyone else has any for sale, do let me know as well.
Car Charger for UNI - how to make working
Hi All!
I've also tryed 2 diferent car chargers and 1 USB Pluggable Car Charger (some noname chineese 3-rd party) with 3 diferent cables, and one 3-rd party AC Power Charger. They ALL worked strange.
I can confirm that to make them all work I should:
1. Switch off the Universal;
2. Plug in the chgrer in to Universal;
3. Wait until the Red Light on.
Now I may turn the Universal On, and see the "Charging" battery status.
The reason and how to fix:
As you may see I used different adapters. All they have from 0.5 to 1.0A output circuit. But, the USB ports I used with my laptops have only 0.5A output and always start charging the Universal.
So, I dont think the output power is the reason.
The most likely - it is the "5-th pin" issue, which is mentioned above here. Can somebody provide information about power connection for the Universal?
It seems the solution is about to interconnect/short circuit 2 wires in the car adapter' cable to make the Universal charging in a usual way with any of my (your) "non-working" car adapters.
Also, I've noticed, that in a case the battery level around 30% and I plug in the "non working adapter" and no red light and system not is in the "Charging" state -- the battery is charging anyway!
Also, let me remind you about another issue that the Universal have: Active Sync (older versions) would not sync (USB Device not recognized error) if you plug in the Universal if the power is On.
To workaround that you have to switch off the Universal, plug the cable and after that you could successfully sync. The same symptoms? May be the same reason?
I would advice anybody not to mess with interconnections in USB, I mean stop soldering and checking because its shortest road to bricking Your precious jasjar. It can be done with proper cable and you have to find the right one ;-)
Secondly - I found that jasjar Rom is also responsible for charging issues. As I stated earlier I finally found good usb cable but later on I lost an ability to charge Uni. in the car. After upgrading to the Aku3.2 rom it start to charge immidiatelly. Same charger and cable - one time it charge, second time it dont. So additionally to cable theres something with soft with preventing Uni. from charging.
man why is it such a complicated issue to get the universal to charge? and it seems that this charging problem only happens to the universal and not any other device, am i right?
nabuhonodozor said:
I would advice anybody not to mess with interconnections in USB, I mean stop soldering and checking because its shortest road to bricking Your precious jasjar. It can be done with proper cable and you have to find the right one ;-)
Secondly - I found that jasjar Rom is also responsible for charging issues. As I stated earlier I finally found good usb cable but later on I lost an ability to charge Uni. in the car. After upgrading to the Aku3.2 rom it start to charge immidiatelly. Same charger and cable - one time it charge, second time it dont. So additionally to cable theres something with soft with preventing Uni. from charging.
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YESSS! I Have upgraded to on of that Aku3.2 recently! May be it is the reason! But, my original Power adapter still charges my Uni so does the USB conndction to the laptop...
To ALL: Could you please confirm that you can use third-party adapters with the older ROMs?
hopefully we can get some updates soon.
Are all chargers alike?
Are all chargers the same? I would think that the USB power rating would be the same. So, I should be able to charge the Jasjar using a charger for a Motorola RAZR (if I weren't so afraid of blowing up the Jasjar)

Motorola Charger

I have look at the Motorola Chargers and it is the same USB b mini as the HTC can you use this charger for the HTC as I an not sore of the Volts
Thanks
Chris
it will work fine with that charger cable, same (5V) - Mike
It will work (my Orbit is plugged into the charger from my Motorola L2 as I type), but it's not just down to the voltage.
Both HTC and Motorola wire the mini USB in non standard ways - hence the HTC Artemis (and Hermes) also uses the mini USB for headphones, and the Motorola has a peculiarity that it will not charge from a cable plugged in to a laptop's USB port, but only from a mains powered adaptor. One of the pins (can't remember which one) is used to indicate whether the cable is being used for "charging" or "syncing".
So just because 2 devices both use mini USB at 5V does not necessarily mean that they can be charged from each other's chargers. I was originally thrilled to think that I could just bring a single charger on business trips to recharge my Artemis, L2 and BlackBerry. Then I found out that it's not quite so simple :-(
My big interest is the Energizer come out with Energi To Go with Mini USB instant cell phone charger this is good for emergences so if it works Motorola I hob it can work for my HTC
http://www.officedepot.com/ddSKU.do?level=SK&id=581663&N=200281&An=browse
Thanks all for the input
Chris
cttransnb said:
I have look at the Motorola Chargers and it is the same USB b mini as the HTC can you use this charger for the HTC as I an not sore of the Volts
Thanks
Chris
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This is my experience based on the years of practice and not on the theoretical "brainwork".
I have HTC P3300 and I even never unpack the wall charger and USB sync cable. I used to have Motorola MPx200 years ago (think it was 2003), since than I changed a couple of devices (Motorola MPx200->BlueAngel->Magician->Motorola A780->HTC P3300), but what stay unchanged is my wall charger. Yes it is charger of my old MPX200, it was plugged once to the mains plug in 2003 and never have been taken out, and all devices what I had after MPx200 were charged by this charger.
The same I can say about my car charger. It's traced back to 2003 and it's original Motorola MPx200 car charger(I think it's standard Motorola car charger for all miniUSB phones). Works flawlessly. I was recently in trip from Amsterdam to Milan and back and from Amsterdam to Malmo and back using the TomTom on P3300 and of course it was permanently charged by my "old" Motorola car charger. No problem at all.
In my business trips I use the Universal World charger which has usb port and I use USB-miniUSB absolutely unbranded cable to charge my all "mini USB" devices including P3300 and Motorola BT stereo headset.
Concerning the sync cable, it's even more dramatic because I use USB cable of my Sony CyberShot camera. And again, all devices what I used to have and what I have now, synchronize and charge with no problem with this cable.
Ok, it's my experience Maybe I'm just a lucky dog , but I certainly prefer to stay like this
Motorola Charger rocks
I have been charging my Artemis with my V3 charger and my V3 with the Artemis data cable for sometime now.
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I have been charging my Artemis with my V3 charger and my V3 with the Artemis data cable for sometime now.
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PLUS + I have also been able to sync using the V3 data cable too
i never experienced any problems using motorola charger or data cable with PDA (Universal & Artemis) and vice versa. Btw i use charger from moto bt HT820 for artemis as well.
only one prob. is moto charger has only 0.5A, so pda charges longer, or not(universal - higher power consum.) no prob with arte. HTC charger is 2A instead of 0.5A. BTW no prob to use 2A charger instead of 0.5A device "eats" only what it needs and is capable of, and maybe charges more quickly
Only Atom refused to charge with other chargers
So far only XDA Atom by Quanta has been a problem when it comes to charging it with other chargers However the activesync works with all mini usb cables. I also use my Canon camera cable for syncing sometimes
RalphLauren said:
This is my experience based on the years of practice and not on the theoretical "brainwork".
I have HTC P3300 and I even never unpack the wall charger and USB sync cable. I used to have Motorola MPx200 years ago (think it was 2003), since than I changed a couple of devices (Motorola MPx200->BlueAngel->Magician->Motorola A780->HTC P3300), but what stay unchanged is my wall charger. Yes it is charger of my old MPX200, it was plugged once to the mains plug in 2003 and never have been taken out, and all devices what I had after MPx200 were charged by this charger.
The same I can say about my car charger. It's traced back to 2003 and it's original Motorola MPx200 car charger(I think it's standard Motorola car charger for all miniUSB phones). Works flawlessly. I was recently in trip from Amsterdam to Milan and back and from Amsterdam to Malmo and back using the TomTom on P3300 and of course it was permanently charged by my "old" Motorola car charger. No problem at all.
In my business trips I use the Universal World charger which has usb port and I use USB-miniUSB absolutely unbranded cable to charge my all "mini USB" devices including P3300 and Motorola BT stereo headset.
Concerning the sync cable, it's even more dramatic because I use USB cable of my Sony CyberShot camera. And again, all devices what I used to have and what I have now, synchronize and charge with no problem with this cable.
Ok, it's my experience Maybe I'm just a lucky dog , but I certainly prefer to stay like this
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Confirmed
Motorola V3i charger - Motorola genuine car charger - Sony Mini DV usb cable - All O.K.
On the same theme, does anyoine know if the Orbit mains charger will work happily with an iPod? I have the Orbit, kid has the iPod, and we're about to go away. I'd like to just take the Orbit lead to charge both and save on buying an iPod charge lead. They're both mini USB. Thoughts?
I use HTC & Motorola Charger for following: Artemis, Universal, MPx200, Motorola Btooth Stereo - which one is the nearest, I use moto for Artemis and vice versa.
Actually mini USB chargers are mostly compatible with different devices. With the notable exception of the Blackberry devices. They seem to wire the connector in a different way and a Blackberry won't charge with a generic mini USB charger This is the only exception I've seen so far (MPX200, Qtek S110, Qtej 9100, Holux GPS, Artemis and Blackberry 8700v tested). I still use my Motorola car charger for my Artemis btw
TheOnly1 said:
Actually mini USB chargers are mostly compatible with different devices. With the notable exception of the Blackberry devices. They seem to wire the connector in a different way and a Blackberry won't charge with a generic mini USB charger This is the only exception I've seen so far (MPX200, Qtek S110, Qtej 9100, Holux GPS, Artemis and Blackberry 8700v tested). I still use my Motorola car charger for my Artemis btw
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From my experience, T-Mobile SDA also would not charge from Motorola mains charge, but Mororola MPx200 did it very good from SDA charger.
But it's already history I would surprise very much if I see the person with the first T-Mobile SDA in his hands ;-)
Simple solution
Cut open your USB lead, and connect just the red and black wires, they're the 5v+ (red) and - (black) lines - if the rest aren't conencted, all the devices will assume it's just plugged into a charger (of course yo can't use it for syncing or anything...)
This is also useful for car use - but any cheapo phone charger (5v) and connect a mini usb cable using the red and black...
krazr,and orbit charge fine with each other
even took the p**s and used a m8s tom tom charger to charge my orbit hehehe. worked a treat.

Car charging issues

I have found that when charging my HTC phone (Kaiser now, used to be a Blue Angel) in my car, if I use a cigarette lighter splitter (So that I can charge another device too) that even if nothing else is plugged into the splitter, the phone will not charge properly. It seems to get enough power to maintain charge, but if I am low on batt, then charge the phone and use it for satnav while I drive, when I finish the journey, the phone has not charged.
This does not seem to be the case if I plug the phone charger directly into the cigarette lighter socket instead of via the splitter.
Knowing a little about electricity, I guess the splitter is running the sockets in parallel or something and dividing the power between the sockets?
Any ideas on what I could do? I would imagine a car battery has plenty of power, maybe it just isn't being distributed properly. I guess the splitter is possibly limited such that it can't pass too much power if only one device is connected?
All the devices I want to use can power from USB, so I am guessing that the solution is maybe a USB hub designed for car use. I have 3 items typically that I want to be able to charge, so a 4 port hub would be nice. Anyone know where to get one in the UK?
I've got the same issue with my car charger (HTC Mogul phone), although for me it doesn't matter whether I use a splitter. Where did you get your charger? Maybe it just isn't supplying enough power.
While it's true that having two devices in parallel causes half the current to flow to one and half to the other (assuming they have the same resistance), the power supplies should be more than capable of pushing enough current for each device, especially when the car is running (and you're getting your electricity off the alternator).
well I thought it could be a dodgy cable but I just got an official HTC car charger for my kaiser and am observing the same thing.
It could have been the cigarette lighter->USB converter or the retractible sync cable I used to use, I will do some more tests and see if I can work out which bit is causing the problem - it wasn't until just recently that I had an official end-to-end solution (ie one HTC car lighter to miniusb cable) so I will try connecting it up various ways, but it isn't exactly quick to test if it is good or not as you need your phone low on batt and to be driving around for an hour or two to see if it is charging properly.
Flat Batteries
Seems XDA has software to prevent charging batteries which are too flat. (Perhaps to protect internal circuitry).
I recommend this thread which has a solution:
http://www.htcwizardweb.net/node/2013#comment-3808
I made it work OK but it is a fiddly job. An external charger for these batteries would be great but I can't find one.
Good luck !
I have the same issue. The battery has refused to charge when its below 40% or so. I now carry a spare in the car, especially as I often depend on Sat nav working!
yeah I had that low batt thing happen with my BA once or twice.
Actually, now I have kept an eye on it, it doesn't seem that bad with my kaiser. I no longer use my car lighter usb adapter though - I use the HTC car charger into a 3-in-1 splitter (usb, extusb, 3.5mm audio) and from that into my Kaiser and it seems to charge the kaiser ok (albeit a little slowly) even when I have a cigarette lighter splitter also powering an RF transmitter.
So I think maybe the weak link was the car lighter to usb adapter, maybe it was outputting too little power on the USB rails.
Car Charger died
I'll jump on an old thread...
My HTC branded car charger (that I got from sending in the post card) worked fine for my Cingular 8525 until a few weeks ago. Then it got flakey and now it doesn't want to work at all.
My 8525 will still charge on my laptop connected cradle and the AC charger.
Has anyone seen any failures in these chargers?
Any recommendations on chargers that are reliable?
Dave.

TyTN won't charge with car charger??

Hi,
I recently bought a car charger (actually, it's a 3-in-1 kit, with USB-2-miniUSB cable, plug-in car charger, and travel charger). This set seems not to work with my TyTn, but work perfectly with other HTC pda's - Touch, Cruise etc. However, that cable works nicely when plugged to PC.
Anyone have a clue? Maybe, I should change some power management settings in the TyTN?
Thanx
Hi,
I have the same problem.
Sometimes is charging O.K. (when the screen is off and Hermes is in Standby). But if I have a Phone Call, or if I use the car navigation, charging won´t work.
(Everythink was O.K. with WM5, I think, but WM6 and WM6.1 has this problem on my Hermes - I tried many ROMs, now I use CRCs PHKv12r9, Radio 1.47.30.10)
Get an inverter from Maplins http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=48723&criteria=inverter&doy=3m4 for £19.99 you can then use your home charger...
Ah OK scratch that idea I didn't look at the flags before posting...
I have one, but the question is, why car charger won´t work.
I use the inverter with everything up to 300W without any problems.
I dont understand WHY people have this problem.... I bought a CHEAP little car charger that allows me to use a usb cable. I plug in, leave for a minute or so and it starts charging. Make/ recieve calls, use GPS software and never have a problem. I would say that the charger was made good BUT its a generic "made in china" charger.... Must've been BLOODY LUCKY to find it...
I had this problem with mine, sometimes it would charge, other times it would need to be restarted before picking up the charger? This was using the same sort of charger that plugged into the lighter socket, then the USB-to-MiniUSB plugged into the charger.
I started using a spare charger for a TomTom One which worked perfectly.
In fact, I have 2 car chargers to which I plug USB-mini cable, both not working. I just wonder why... Can it be hardware or software problem? I suspect you all use WM6.... OK with WM5?
I can't find the post now, but there have been a couple of discussions about the charging issues with the TyTN. My TyTN is very picky about the charging cable. It has something to do with a requirement that the data pin in the USB cable either be connected to something live(like a computer) or that the data pin be jumpered to the ground pin.
I have tried a number of charging solutions and keep going back to the AT&T store for a charger that works. I have an external battery for my laptop from Battery Geek, Inc that has both a USB port on it and a mini USB charging cable. Both don't work with my TyTN but work with my wife's Wizard. Actually they work with my TyTN about 2% of the time, just enough to make me think it is going to work.
Someplace back in the archives I've seen a description of how to modify a USB charging cable to work with the TyTN, but I can't find it right now.
Rick
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Callpod Accessories

I like Callpod (have been able to abuse one of their Dragon bluetooth headsets while enjoying the extended range) and their accessories, but... I think one of their accessories is what killed my Excalibur, my Asus P600 PND, and my Athena (all of them had their charging circuits fried somehow...).
None of the three devices will take a charge or be recognized as even being plugged in on a USB port on either side.
The only common thread between all three of these devices is that they were in my car (which I have a 4 way 12volt splitter in place) and they were all plugged in to the callpod chargepod Adapter (not the chargepod itself, mind you, but the car adapter *for* the chargepod) at various points, and the Callpod was the last charger it was plugged in to. I should know better... much better, but when I was out of town and needed a Mini-USB car charger, I grabbed it as it was the only Mini-USB charger that was on their shelf (and with a dead phone in the middle of a conference call, you can imagine the rush).
Chalk it up to experience but don't use their charger directly with your devices. All I can find for technical specs is that it is 6VDC from 12VDC, no info on the mA or A that it provides. Heads up.
Now I have a nice Diamond Touch on the way and a few weeks on the couch due to an upset wife and the Callpod adapter is being dismantled systematically to make me feel better.
-Will
PS. I know Li-ion batteries have circuits to manage the charging etc. But this is honestly the only thing I can figure is that somehow it was sending small surges down the line that eventually popped something in the circuit... feel free to pose other hypothesis to me if you have one.
Yes mate it can be done i have fixed a tomtom same plug you can order them online ,you need a very small tipped soldering iron (low wattage) search these forums for strip down guides for your phone good luck

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