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4gb sd card?

Will it work on the xda IIs?

It may. A user on another forum just reported succesfully using a Tanscend 4gb card in his XV6600 even though he was told it would only support 2gb...http://www.pdaphonehome.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=61612

Have tested with 2GB SData SD card myself, works fine. Didn't have 4gb but it should work as well.
The SX66 supported SD list was created back when the highest SD card was like 512meg or 1gig, that's why the supported lists are different

hi, thanks for the replies. i see it everything should be fine using a 4gb sd card.

due to the nature of the BA, and as far as i kno all other fairly recent PDAs they will support all current and future SD cards as they don't suffer the limited memory addressing of smaller less complex devices such as normal mobile phones like nokias and digital cameras
i've read somewhere the SD card standard will theoretically go up to 16gb, lets hope they arn't too far away, and that the BA will support it.
Still hoping some random company will develop and release an SDIO USB host though. Damn the BA not having Compact Flash.

http://www.everythingusb.com/news/index/5929.htm

http://sandisk.com/Products/Item(1239)-SDSDPH-1024-SanDisk_Ultra_II_SD_Plus_USB_1GB.aspx
Much cheaper, and from SanDisk...
1 GB SD which doubles as a USB thimbdrive w/o need for adapter. MSRP $134.99

8GB SD card debuts!!!

From PRETEC, here:-
http://www.geekzone.co.nz/content.asp?contentid=6609
:lol: :lol: :lol:

I found one on eBay for £96.00 + £4.00 p&p.
150X 8GB OEM SAMSUNG SECURE DIGITAL SD CARD 8 GB G NEW
Looks good.

Gonna test that on Universalinux too?

wonder if it will work in a prophet (JAMin)

RE
If your PDA do not have a SDHC slot then PRETEC card is not backward compatible
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"SDHC cards are recognized by new SDHC host devices differently than standard SD cards and are not backward compatible with legacy SD format host devices. "
Bad luck!!

What IS SDHC compatible?

I was gonna ask that one, so i will ask it anyway!
What is SDHC?
Never mind, i found this information:
http://www.sandisk.com/Assets/File/pdf/retail/SDHC1.pdf#search="sdhc compatible"
But now we need to know whether our Universal is SDHC compatible or not. Has anyone managed to find out if these new cards work with our PDA's?

Maximum capacity for this device: May support up to 2GB
But we know that's already true. So...

This quote is right from the article linked to by the first post here...
The maximum capacity of SD card is 2GB under SD 1.1 of Secure Digital Alliance (SDA) specification; however, by using file format of FAT32, many SD 1.1 host devices can use a 4GB SD card. SD 1.0/1.1 uses traditional "Byte Addressing" scheme which limits the maximum capacity to 4GB while SD 2.0 adopts "Sector Addressing" scheme which can reach the maximum capacity of 2TB (2048GB).
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In other words, they 'cheat' to get the Universal and other SD 1.1 devices to see 4G, but that won't work with the 8G cards.
Brett

Would the Universal still not work with an 8GB SD card if that card was partitioned into 2x 4GB's? It certainly would be helpful if someone could try this? You just never know!

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I guess no one will know for sure until someone tries it. BTW how do you partition a SD card anyways? Do you really think that could work?

hello
if SD 2.0 is the later version then would not all new 4 GB SD cards support "sector addressing" which would limit the ma. capacity to 2 GB

I have a 4gb that works in uni
I keep reading that people aren't able to use anything above a 2gb SD but I have been using a 4gb that I purchased on eBay for pver 6 months now. I used in with the original Jasjar ROM and also with JWrite's, Indra, and currently Helmi's. (not with the WM6's yet though)
It is interesting to note however that it won't work in any of my desktop or laptop systems without the included dongle. Not even the built in SD slot in my TC1100 tablet.
It says it's made by a company called "TopRam" if that helps anyone.
I also purchased an 8gb that SUPPOSEDLY supports SD 1.1 and 2.0 according to the documentation. It took a great deal of hunting to find one that didn't say it was HC and I'm still skeptical as to whether or not it will actually work, but as soon as it comes in and I have a chance to try it I will post the results here if anyone is interested.
I know there are one or two people here who make claims of such things, but if there are any doubters I will take some screenshots of the storage card memory screen if I need to.

SDHC uses a different software for the controller. The hardware is exactly the same. The point I'm trying to make, is that the SD people went to very radical lengths to ensure that there is no compatibility betweens SD and SDHC. They also have two different kinds of memory addressing. Bottom line, you can't use SDHC. Your device must say SDHC, and AFAIK, no PDA is SDHC compatible. With all of that said, I'm a Scoter owner, and we have valid reports of being able to access SDHC cards from a PC, through my device. It may be possible to create drivers for the SD controller, or create some kind of emulator, but that is a long way off. I've seen similar threads about those asking about 4 GB and 8 GB. Unfortunetly most don't understand the difference between SD and SDHC. SD is capable of 4 GB. SDHC starts at 2 GB and has potential in the terrabyte range. In addition, many of the real cheap 4 GB SD cards don't strictly adhere to SD standards, and may work on some reader designs, and not on others. A perfect example is that I bought a 4 GB SD card, that only works on one card reader, but not my PC reader or PDA.
Regards,
Jason

SDHC Patch
I just read on a forum for Palm Treo that they have a working patch for the Treo which forms compatibility of SDHC on the Treo.
Now perhaps we can take a lesson from them and see what changes where needed to make it work. Besides, you can't tell me that there are more people working of patches for the PalmOS than WM.

well , the sdhc 8gb does not work on my xda exec-universal. so I just bought a 4gbcard "MyMemory 4GB 133X SD" from ebay that is stated as being compatible 21.94 pounds.
I'll just use my sdhc 8gb as an expensive mem stick in my sweex sdhc reader .

got it
So I received my 8gb (supposedly NON SDHC) and as expected, it won't read in my Jasjar. I am going to try and reformat it into 2 or 4gb partitions to see if that will work but I am going guess and say no. It is already in fat32 but it doesn't recognize the card at all in the PDA. Just to make sure it was in fact a full 8gb (7.6gb actually) I copied a handfull of movies (7gb) to it and then ran them on another laptop and it is in fact a good card.
I can't repartition it in XP since it sees it as a removable disk, so as soon as I get my Linux laptop back up and running, I will repartition it there and see what happens. I don't expect much though.

TBOMB said:
So I received my 8gb (supposedly NON SDHC) and as expected, it won't read in my Jasjar.
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Could you, please, try AKU 3.5 ROM (Helmi 1.3.1 or Ivan B2)?
Because this ROM comes from device which support SDHC.
There were reports also, that Triniti with last Dopod ROM (AKU 3.5)
support Mini SDHC 4GB (maximum for mini SD now).
BTW tell us which ROM you are tryinng.

why not
If someone will send me the link to the rom files, I'll be glad to. I just don't have a lot of time right now to search the ftp site.
Two questions about Helmi's 1.3.1, first, will it support my bluetooth stereo headset like the pdaviet 207 I'm using now does? and second, I don't suppose any of these new roms has the new timechange fix already applied do they? I just don't want to keep reflashing my Jasjar and still having to apply all the reg fixes etc to correct for the new timezone/dst changes.

Guess nobody was in a hurry for me to test using the other ROMs as I have had no PM's with info as to where I can find the ROMS now that they are no longer on the ftp server here.
I find my copy of Helmi's aku3.5 1.3 and tried it with the 8gb (non-sdhc) card with no luck. I assumed as much. Not quite sure where you heard that it had SDHC support but I guess it doesn't.
I had the PDAVIET 2.0.0.0.7 or whatever the latest incarnation was and that didn't work either. I now have Helmi's WM6 1.1 that I put on last night and that one also doesn't work.
I'm sure we have some developers out there who know palm and ppc hardware who can take a look at the "fix" that was created for the Treo which allows SDHC use. I can "open" the prc file but I don't know enough about what I'm looking at to be helpful.
Not sure why this fix is so slow coming. Perhaps not enough people see the need for 8gb cards. I have a 4gb but I have to continue taking off stuff in order to put anything else on because it's always full.

SD Card and headphones

I have few questions about BA. First: what is the biggest memory card that can be used in this model? Second: can i use normal (not original) microjack headphones with BA?
P.S. Sorry, should be in accessories, by bad.

To my knowledge, any SD-card will work. That means any real SD up to 2 GB.
Larger cards are either outside the SD-card specs or SDHC, both won't work in a Blue Angel.
Dirk

when i got my universal, there was a 4gb sd (non-hc) with it and i also tried it with the BA for compatibility. it actually worked. so, maybe if you try before you buy, you have the chance to purchase a 4gb sd card, that is compatible with the BA. but with 2gb card(s) you can't go wrong as to my knowledge there are no 2gb sdhc cards or by any other means incompatible cards.
about the headphones there are some threads in the accessories section, that explain, why it won't work, like -=this=- for instance.

thanks for help
EDIT: i've asked some BA users and they said that they are using 4GB non HC cards ... and i found that model but it was rly hard... hope it will work...

I also have a 4gb card for the last two years and it works fine

I am using a regular SD with capacity of 4gb and an adaptor so I can use a regular earphone
cheers mate!

What make are your 4GB sd cards?

Best microSDHC card

Hello!
I want to buy new microSDHC card to my phone and I'm wondering which one is the best.
There are three priorities for me:
- SDHC
- 4GB
- minimum class 6
I found TRANSCEND microSDHC 4GB Class 6 and SILICON POWER 4GB microSDHC CLASS 6. Which one is better? Or maybe you advice something else?

THere is a lot of disscussion about this in this forum. Please search

Sometimes it's hard to find sth when does not speak the native english. Can you please give me the link to this discussion or just post the answer?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=553412&highlight=sdhc
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=416866&highlight=sdhc
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=493247&highlight=sdhc

Thanks! I've already studied thread nr 1 and 3 and nothing special there. Number 2 is 16GB and 32GB - I need just 4GB and not for WM but for Linux (ext4 and maybe one fat32 partition on it).

well if it's a pda device then it's interface cant keep up with even the normal card speeds
so high speed cards only really matter when you have it connected to a card reader connected to a computer

Rudegar said:
well if it's a pda device then it's interface cant keep up with even the normal card speeds
so high speed cards only really matter when you have it connected to a card reader connected to a computer
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So it's better to buy class 4 but 8GB that 4GB class 6?

i have not seen any difference personally between 4 & 6. so go for highest capacity.
i have used quite a few brands and all my cards now are sandisk. None of them have given me a problem.
most important thimg regarding performance is to make sure that its genunine. more than 85% of cards sold these days are duplicate.

michal_banszel said:
Thanks! I've already studied thread nr 1 and 3 and nothing special there. Number 2 is 16GB and 32GB - I need just 4GB and not for WM but for Linux (ext4 and maybe one fat32 partition on it).
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I don't know jack about linux or 'rooting' onto an sd card, but if I were going to do it, I would make sure that I got the highest quality card available. I've corrupted my 16 G card too many times (mostly my fault, lol) to trust it for running linux off of it. Get something hardy that won't become corrupted, like if the device freezes and you need to reset it. My guess is that you're better off with a smaller card (like the 4 GB one). I'd stay away from a big one if you don't need it.
Basically, it's a huge PITA when your card becomes hopelessly corrupted and you need to back it up and re-format it. I imagine it's a nightmare when your operating system is running off of said card when it becomes corrupted.

Farmer Ted said:
I don't know jack about linux or 'rooting' onto an sd card, but if I were going to do it, I would make sure that I got the highest quality card available. I've corrupted my 16 G card too many times (mostly my fault, lol) to trust it for running linux off of it. Get something hardy that won't become corrupted, like if the device freezes and you need to reset it. My guess is that you're better off with a smaller card (like the 4 GB one). I'd stay away from a big one if you don't need it.
Basically, it's a huge PITA when your card becomes hopelessly corrupted and you need to back it up and re-format it. I imagine it's a nightmare when your operating system is running off of said card when it becomes corrupted.
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That's right!
"most important thimg regarding performance is to make sure that its genunine. more than 85% of cards sold these days are duplicate."
what do you mean? TRANSCEND and SILICON POWER are genuine?

on my purpose,there ARE differences between class 4 and class 6 ,but there are to small differences in speed to pay the double price...I just using class2 Devices (on 3 PDA Phones,2 NDS and an PSP),i never felt there are to slow,yeah on PSP you really fell the difference between an MemoryStick Pro MkII and an Class2 Toshiba MicroSDHC,but for me personally it does not matter -the most of People buy Great Capacity Drives for Media Files right ? ....and Media Files like Movies,Mp3´s etc. running well on Class2 Cards!

Excuse me to say that...but SanDisk Sucks!
a lot of the Sandisk card have Chips from China
(i Don´t know on Class 4 or 6 Cards,but Class2 Card from Sandisk always have Chinese Chips....and there bullsh...)
Japanese Chips (like Cards from Kingston and Toshiba) are a lot better on speed and are a lot more reliable than Chinese Chips
I made my Experiences ,never by SanDisk....
just every Media Market have SanDisk- but that doesn´t mean there are really good..
I have Cards from Siemens,SanDisk,Kingston,Nokia,Toshiba and Motorola (Nokia,Siemens and Motorola are OEM- so i don´t know who produced them)) I have over 20! Cards between 64mb and 16gb---yeah and San Disk are the worst ..dood!
and there IS a Difference between Class4 and 6 Cards,but i think personally there are to less to pay the double Price for it
I have 3 PDA ,2 NDS and an PSP,all of them has Class 2 Cards and i never felt that there are to slow...most of the Devices on the market are to slow to feel the REAL Power of an Class6 Card!

Micro SD Card Questions

I recently pre-ordered the Sony Xperia Z2 which only comes in 16gb so I am forced to get extra storage, but I have a few question regarding micro SD cards. While reading my post please keep in mind I am still a noob. :angel:
1) Is 32gb enough or is it recommended to get 64gb? I will probably watch movies and TV shows but will not be putting music on the phone since I am not a fan for personal reasons. I have also heard that bigger SD cards can slow your phone down and some people tend to have problems with them, is this true?
2) What brand shall I get? SanDisk or Samsung? I have read that even though two micro SD cards are the same size and same class there is still a difference due to the brands.
3) Apart from the storage size and the class of the card is there anything else I should be looking out for?
Thanks

Fadeless said:
I recently pre-ordered the Sony Xperia Z2 which only comes in 16gb so I am forced to get extra storage, but I have a few question regarding micro SD cards. While reading my post please keep in mind I am still a noob. :angel:
1) Is 32gb enough or is it recommended to get 64gb? I will probably watch movies and TV shows but will not be putting music on the phone since I am not a fan for personal reasons. I have also heard that bigger SD cards can slow your phone down and some people tend to have problems with them, is this true?
2) What brand shall I get? SanDisk or Samsung? I have read that even though two micro SD cards are the same size and same class there is still a difference due to the brands.
3) Apart from the storage size and the class of the card is there anything else I should be looking out for?
Thanks
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Hm....the xperia z2......it has up to 128 gb memory expansion according to gsm arena. If you want to save movies and tv shows to your phone, I suggest you buy a 64 gb memory stick, so you can save more stuff. As for the brand, there's no actual difference to me, and as for the bigger size that makes the phone slower, that's not true, unless you have your memory stick full of stuff like music, videos/movies/tv shows, images and such stuff (note that I have mine with such stuff loaded and I have no problems). Apart from the storage size and the card class, no, I think you're going to be alright. Hope I helped...

if you are a Movie TV fans,i suggest you add a 64gb extra storage,then u could smoothly enjoy the show and u can save more tv show you like

I agree, i fill up a 32 gb like its nothing. and thats just pictures and videos. if you use instagram it fills up allot faster.

Alright, I'll go for the 64gb one and Samsung seems like the reasonable choice to make.

suggest you to get a 64GB extra storage.
and maybe kingston is ok.

Fadeless said:
Is 32gb enough or is it recommended to get 64gb? I will probably watch movies and TV shows but will not be putting music on the phone since I am not a fan for personal reasons.
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We can't really answer that. If you don't re-encode movies you'll likely quickly fill up 32GB. On the other hand, bigger cards get cheaper, faster and more reliable (ok, not always) over time. I'd decide by price, you can always easily replace it later.

go for sandisk ....class 10 ultra ...64 gb . actually you have video recording @ [email protected] will going to take more speed as well as memory than expected .

i have got Samsung micro SD class 10 48mb/s 32 gb huhuhuh! it's cool and works fine!

128 gb micro sd card
Tryn to figure out where to sell my new unopened 128gb micro sd card.
I just sold my vzw note 2 and 2 days ago had Ordered the sd card at best buy will sell for $105 shipped it is new unopened in pack
Here is link to best buy,..
http://m.bestbuy.com/m/e/product/de...cf0-a561-6149-a31a-00002dd127e5&pid=121909834

64
64 GB is the way to go, bigger the better !!
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