~~ AGAIN. For all who always gets errors during ROMupdate ~~ - JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading

Ok. I decided to write a short tutorial (because it is very very SIMPLE!!! ), how to upgrade any of the ROMs to any of Universal (jasjar, exec, qtek...), because I found 70% of the Universal upgrading etc forum posts are something like: "I can't upgrdae...", "I get an error message..." "coutry ID error..", etc.
1. Download the ROM you want to install
2. Best way to use winRAR to unpack it to a folder
3. There are 3 ROMs in the package: ms_.nbf (ExtendedROM), nk.nbf (CE ROM), radio_.nbf (Radio ROM)
4. Select those (from between this 3 ROMs) which you don't want to install
5. Delete these
6. Copy to the folder my attached file (MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe). This is the file which makes the install workable for all models of Universal.
7. Make your Universal in bootloader mode. (Push Light button + Power button + resetbutton at the same time) A lot of people get error message at the first time if they were not in bootloader mode. Those people can install the ROM the second time. If you are in bootloader mode you won't get error message.
8. Doubleclick to MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe. A window come up with the old ROMs and the new ROMs which will be upgraded. When this windows comes up, it is very important to wait a few seconds (5sec is enough) before you push the upgrade button.
9. Upgrade.
10. Wait until the installation program says in a window: Congratulations. Push OK button.
11. Pull out the USB cable from the Universal.
12. Do a cold reset (push the two menu buttons ("-") on the keyboard + the reset button at the same time (all of this three)
13. Everything should be fine from this time. You have to calibrate the screen and do some tutorial...
(14. If you want your Universal not to install ExtendedROM, make a softreset after setup is complete. (a popup window pops up you have 3 seconds before it installs ExtendedROM))
That's it.
It woked for me anytime in any case with any of Universals.
I hope this will help for lots of people.
Cheers

Cool! 8)
This way I see it is that there are many people out there with these (and many other) basic questions that want answering and indeed the same questions keep cropping up. A post like this is great BUT it's visibility only lasts a couple of days untill it gets swamped by more recent threads - I don't see the mod's stickying anything!!!!!
Hence: this forum could be SO much better if each section had a GUIDES area where people can submit threads like this!
>>>> ANYONE ?? <<<<
Andy

I'm totally agree!
HEY MODERATORS!

underwurlde, I have an alternative suggestion. If moderators don't push this to a special place, we have to write here something like "..." twice a day. :lol: :wink:

Why don't you put it in this forum's wiki resource? I'm sure a lot of users would be very grateful for this information!
wiki.xda-developers.com

Damm it!
How do I go to bootloader mode? and how do I know if I am at it?
Do I have to be with my activesync connected by usb to Qtek9000?
I start the maupgradeut_noid_637 and nothing happens...
Txs

Damm it!
How do I go to bootloader mode? and how do I know if I am at it?
Do I have to be with my activesync connected by usb to Qtek9000?
I start the maupgradeut_noid_637 and nothing happens...
Txs
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GOD I HATE BEING RIGHT :lol: :lol:
@Tuningszocske - ever watch 'Shawshank Redemption'? - I wonder if a daily 'bump' will piss them off into action as you suggest.
Andy 8)

Deiota said:
Damm it!
How do I go to bootloader mode? and how do I know if I am at it?
Do I have to be with my activesync connected by usb to Qtek9000?
I start the maupgradeut_noid_637 and nothing happens...
Txs
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Okay. It seems you did not read my first post.
To put your Universal into bootloader mode, read 7th point.
And how do you know you are in bootloader mode?
You can see just a blank screen with the title serial or USB on the top and something like v1.00 on the bottom. You will recognize it.
I hope :?

underwurlde said:
GOD I HATE BEING RIGHT :lol: :lol:
@Tuningszocske - ever watch 'Shawshank Redemption'? - I wonder if a daily 'bump' will piss them off into action as you suggest.
Andy 8)
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Ever watch??? This is one of my favorite films. But I cannot draw any parallel between this film and your post, but I'm sure it is because I'm hungarian and my english is something that your german So, sleng is standing above my english knowledge.

I just posted some instructions on Wiki - I hope they help
Per the suggestion, I just posted some instructions on Wiki. Take a look an see what you think. Hopefully more can be added and these can be refined to be more understandable. At least it's a start.
Here is the Wiki Universal page http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Universal
This is the three I added, under How to upgrade to the latest ROM (currently 1.30.68)
Detailed Instruction On How To Upgrade with Bootloader method http://wiki.xda-developers.com/inde...tion On How To Upgrade with Bootloader method
Instructions for those stuck on Boot Screen http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Instructions for those stuck on Boot Screen
Instructions for those with Country Code error http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Instructions for those with Country Code error

Cool!
olliesshop, if you want you can use my tutorial to add more things to the wiki site. I think mixing of your and mine tutorial would be enough for the most helpless people too. I missed from mine removeing SD and SIM card, and not to use USB hub.
I hope, one day people will understand this very very "sofisticated" method.

To Deiota It looks like when you are in bootloader mode without things in the center. (But there are when you completed the upgrade.)

Hello!
Thanks you all for your help!
I've already did the upgrade! But I have a "stupid" (maybe) question.
When I was upgrading my Qtek 9000 with JASJAR_WWE_13076_164_10900_wwe_ship.exe, it appeard a photo of a I-mate PDA, but not Jasjar. Is it OK? Is this ROM for my Qtek 9000 (or Jasjar)?
I realized that the package software that comes with I-mate is best, at least more complete then Qtek! Another thing, why or how is it possible that the same device, comes with WM5 (both) and some features included in I-mate and not in Qtek. I'm talking about the "Device unlocked" that happears in the Today Screen.
I just want to confirm that this ROM is right for me, and that It is best than my Qtek Original one!

Should be ok
From what I understand this imate ROM upgrade should work for all the HTC Universal phones, including; Universal Dopod 900 / Qtek 9000 / MDA Pro / I-mate JASJAR / O2 Xda Exec / SPV M5000 / Qtek v1640. What's amusing is when I did the upgrade to my imate Jasjar it got locked on the blue splash screen (the one with the imate logo) and now I had to ship it in for Warranty service ... time since failure 5 days and counting. I expect it back end of next week at the earliest.
I'm glad it worked for you !!!

Deiota said:
Hello!
Thanks you all for your help!
I've already did the upgrade! But I have a "stupid" (maybe) question.
When I was upgrading my Qtek 9000 with JASJAR_WWE_13076_164_10900_wwe_ship.exe, it appeard a photo of a I-mate PDA, but not Jasjar. Is it OK? Is this ROM for my Qtek 9000 (or Jasjar)?
I realized that the package software that comes with I-mate is best, at least more complete then Qtek! Another thing, why or how is it possible that the same device, comes with WM5 (both) and some features included in I-mate and not in Qtek. I'm talking about the "Device unlocked" that happears in the Today Screen.
I just want to confirm that this ROM is right for me, and that It is best than my Qtek Original one!
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All the models have just different names but totally the same hardware (with just different paintings) because there are different service providers who want to sell it. Each service provider has a fantasy-name like O2 service provider sells it as Exec, Qtek sells it as 9000, i-mate sells it as Jasjar...
Clear?

off topic, sorry
Yo!
@Tuningszocske,
yeah there is a scene in Shawshank where Andy is trying to get money to build a library so he asks the Governor if he can write a letter - to which he agrees 'write as many as you want':
So he does: One a day. Every day. Unitl he actually gets a response, which effectively says: 'Here's $200, now go away' - So he writes TWO letters every day!!!!! Guess what? He eventually gets what he wants. :lol: This is the parallel I was making re: continually 'bumping' this thread.
The squeaky wheel always gets the grease!
Andy

Not really!
well, first I want to be sure that the Rom JASJAR_WWE_13076_164_10900_wwe_ship.exe is the right for me, since the screen that appear while upgrading has a I-mate K-Jam or something!
Second, I understand that the Software that come with one can be different from another, has it happens here!
But the MAIN Windows Mobile 5, I don't understand how...
The main thing I noticed is the "device unlocked" on today screen...
My usband has a Mio A210 that has WM5 and has the same Today item, "device unlocked". My question is why the Wtek version of Rom doesn't have uit? New version of WM5? Old one? Just different?
Txs,
Deiota
Tuningszocske said:
Deiota said:
Hello!
Thanks you all for your help!
I've already did the upgrade! But I have a "stupid" (maybe) question.
When I was upgrading my Qtek 9000 with JASJAR_WWE_13076_164_10900_wwe_ship.exe, it appeard a photo of a I-mate PDA, but not Jasjar. Is it OK? Is this ROM for my Qtek 9000 (or Jasjar)?
I realized that the package software that comes with I-mate is best, at least more complete then Qtek! Another thing, why or how is it possible that the same device, comes with WM5 (both) and some features included in I-mate and not in Qtek. I'm talking about the "Device unlocked" that happears in the Today Screen.
I just want to confirm that this ROM is right for me, and that It is best than my Qtek Original one!
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All the models have just different names but totally the same hardware (with just different paintings) because there are different service providers who want to sell it. Each service provider has a fantasy-name like O2 service provider sells it as Exec, Qtek sells it as 9000, i-mate sells it as Jasjar...
Clear?
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Wiki revised
Tuningszocske said:
Cool!
olliesshop, if you want you can use my tutorial to add more things to the wiki site. I think mixing of your and mine tutorial would be enough for the most helpless people too. I missed from mine removeing SD and SIM card, and not to use USB hub.
I hope, one day people will understand this very very "sofisticated" method.
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Take a look http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Universal . I updated the "Detailed Instruction On How To Upgrade with Bootloader method" instructions, by merging both. Also, your instructions are shown "as written" in the "Instructions for those with Country Code error". I hope this helps folks.

Re: off topic, sorry
underwurlde said:
Yo!
@Tuningszocske,
yeah there is a scene in Shawshank where Andy is trying to get money to build a library so he asks the Governor if he can write a letter - to which he agrees 'write as many as you want':
So he does: One a day. Every day. Unitl he actually gets a response, which effectively says: 'Here's $200, now go away' - So he writes TWO letters every day!!!!! Guess what? He eventually gets what he wants. :lol: This is the parallel I was making re: continually 'bumping' this thread.
The squeaky wheel always gets the grease!
Andy
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Hey Under!
I understand now I saw this film a long time ago. I can remember a little bit more now.

Deiota said:
Not really!
well, first I want to be sure that the Rom JASJAR_WWE_13076_164_10900_wwe_ship.exe is the right for me, since the screen that appear while upgrading has a I-mate K-Jam or something!
Second, I understand that the Software that come with one can be different from another, has it happens here!
But the MAIN Windows Mobile 5, I don't understand how...
The main thing I noticed is the "device unlocked" on today screen...
My usband has a Mio A210 that has WM5 and has the same Today item, "device unlocked". My question is why the Wtek version of Rom doesn't have uit? New version of WM5? Old one? Just different?
Txs,
Deiota
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Deiota!
For your first question: YES IT IS A RIGHT ROM FOR YOUR DEVICE. JUST COME FROM ANOTHER SERVICE PROVIDERS. DON'T BE AFRAID YOU WON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH IT!
For second: yes, it might be that your husband has a different version of wm5. It is something like there are many types of laptops, and there are many types of windows, and you can choose which windows you install on which laptop, but you cannot install windows on a macintosh (apple) hardware or a TabletPC, which is something similar than a normal laptop, but with a few specialities. Qtek9000/O2Exec/i-mate Jasjar... has the same hadrware like a Dell/Toshiba/HP laptops with totally the same hardware inside (same RAM size, same videocard type and capacity, same harddisk...)
So, do it.
I wouldn't injure you not for the soul of me, but if after these tutorial you don't understand the procedure, you should ask somebody to do it before you make an irreversible error during upgrading!!!! IT IS DANGEROUS,YOU CAN MAKE YOUR DEVICE TOTALLY UNUSEABLE!

Related

***READ: Windows Mobile 2005 and XDAIIs/MDAIII/PDA2K/etc ***

Please read this before asking questions!
As of this time, there is no Blue Angel-compatible CE ROM of Windows Mobile 5 to date, in beta or final form, in circulation nor available for examination or experimentation to us.
As of this time, there are no official or unofficial plans or announcements by any manufacturer, distributor, or wireless carrier.
Please do not create new threads or post off-topic in current threads that are in regards to this UNLESS you have witnessed firsthand that one does exist or that you are or can be in possession of a Blue Angel device that has actual Windows Mobile 5 code on it.
As soon as we can get our hands on a test ROM, we will let you know as soon as possible.
Thank you.
Thanks to BeyondtheTech for the idea and text.
Possible work around
Well its a thought
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=22111
If you have comments post to that thread
The Dream is OVER!!! The president of imate said it
Some dutch company interviewed the head of Imate (in English), He said it himself, that the reason was because of memory issues, and the he was afraid that everytime, the phone died or there was a hard reset, we would lose part of the operating system. heres the link to the dutch webite
Here is a link to the Web Site
Here is a Direct Link to the streaming Audio interview
i'm guessing u didn't see the thread about WM5 actually on a BA device did u? well it's true, WM5 CAN be put on a Blue Angel.
by the way, i listened to the podcast, and he was talking about the magician. now if it was the SuperJAM, then i think it would be ok. but devices with 64MB RAM, then you will have the problem. but since the BA has 128MB RAM it's ok.
Dale Coffing on his site mentions something interesting. At the end of his review on the Samsung i730, he posts a response to a reader in the comments section who was asking about WM5 on the Samsung. Here is his reply:
"I have been running Windows Mobile 5 as a development platform on a BlueAngel device (the MDA3) so it kind of spoiling me to not have some of the advanced features on the i730."
So, it seems that not only is WM5 for the BA possible, but it already exists.
Here is the link to his site: http://dalecoffing.typepad.com/my_weblog/2005/06/first_look_sams.html#more
Youre right, i also read this, but we all knew this before. We know that it exists and we were very very close to getting a hand on it, severel times.
Well if Dale was as big of a bible thumper as he claims he is, he would have shared the device with us by now, after all isn't that what Christians supposed to do, share with the needy? But I suspect that his bigger passion is wth MS so I am pretty sure he won't share with us.
I emailed Dale hes a putts and eveyone on the world who has a BA with 5 and doesnt share it. There all putt's
szamot said:
Well if Dale was as big of a bible thumper as he claims he is, he would have shared the device with us by now, after all isn't that what Christians supposed to do, share with the needy? But I suspect that his bigger passion is wth MS so I am pretty sure he won't share with us.
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If hes such a "bible thumper" as you say that's the very reason he wont give out what doesn't belong to him.
EFJAY--Please help...
I’m having the problem you’ve already solved on the PDA2K with the GPRS re-connection on T-mobile. I ran "The last ones" cab file for changing the ‘flags2’ file to 16. So far so good.
The other issue of course is the need to downgrade my caller id version to 1.20 build 17957. I have the cab file for that: IA_CallerID_1.20_WWE.CAB but when I copy it from my desktop to the device and double tap it I get the same error message: “The file “\windows\iacontacts.dll” is in use or is in ROM. If the file is not in ROM, please close the application using the file.”
So, the second part of the fix is a no go. This device is my goodlink and to be honest I desperately need a work around for this bug in the 1.40 ROM. I would be EXTEMELY grateful if you could stem me through the process of downgrading the caller id .dll file to 1.20 build 17957 and somehow getting around the fact that it’s in ROM.
Thanks very much for your help. I’m afraid I’m supposed to be leaving town tomorrow late afternoon and this IMATE PDA2K was supposed to be my lifeline. Now I’m ready to throw this brick out the window and buy a treo. I’m depressed. L
I would really be grateful for any assistance. Thanks so much.
Re: EFJAY--Please help...
rdaprix said:
I’m having the problem you’ve already solved on the PDA2K with the GPRS re-connection on T-mobile. I ran "The last ones" cab file for changing the ‘flags2’ file to 16. So far so good.
The other issue of course is the need to downgrade my caller id version to 1.20 build 17957. I have the cab file for that: IA_CallerID_1.20_WWE.CAB but when I copy it from my desktop to the device and double tap it I get the same error message: “The file “\windows\iacontacts.dll” is in use or is in ROM. If the file is not in ROM, please close the application using the file.”
So, the second part of the fix is a no go. This device is my goodlink and to be honest I desperately need a work around for this bug in the 1.40 ROM. I would be EXTEMELY grateful if you could stem me through the process of downgrading the caller id .dll file to 1.20 build 17957 and somehow getting around the fact that it’s in ROM.
Thanks very much for your help. I’m afraid I’m supposed to be leaving town tomorrow late afternoon and this IMATE PDA2K was supposed to be my lifeline. Now I’m ready to throw this brick out the window and buy a treo. I’m depressed. L
I would really be grateful for any assistance. Thanks so much.
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im assuming you meant to click new topic rather than reply at the top of the thread!!!, lol
Can we post in here now?
PLEASE!!??!?!?!
Or at least change the sticky to the one that says WM5 is up and running?

IMPORTANT: New O2 ROM 1.40 with good features...

I think no-one has picked it up yet as I can't find trace of it in the forum but O2 UK has released a new ROM for the BA, XdaIIs.
I installed it - seems to be all right. Big improvements:
O2 Active UI v3.6.024 -well, seems to be more stable than previous versions
Bluetooth build 3900
Radio build 1.12
Windows mobile CE version 1.40
BlackBerry Connect v2.0
Removal of Photo Contacts
AND AND AND.... are you ready?
WINDOWS MEDIA PLAYER 10! I am not joking. I've got it on my BA.
Strange O2 does not list WMP10 in the features of the new ROM.
Download it from http://www.my-xda.com/
You'll need your O2 number and IMEI to accessd the software upgarde section of the site.
Enjoy.
Posted
here http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=30593
and here http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=31244
thanks anyway
sorry sorry
err... sorry!
In another thread on here (I can't remember which one) someone who works for 02 said that they've stopped selling the XDA2s due to 'system problems'. Strange they'd do that just after releasing a new ROM :S
mike freegan said:
In another thread on here (I can't remember which one) someone who works for 02 said that they've stopped selling the XDA2s due to 'system problems'. Strange they'd do that just after releasing a new ROM :S
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chances are that they are clearing old stock for the new xda exec as they now have a new device, the upgarde is just an upgrade, even if they do carry on selling the 2s i dont think o2 have the brains to ship it with the new rom, they tend to leave customers to fend for themselves and if you know nothing about upgrading like us on here, you have no chance.
I have had my XDA IIs for nearly a year now and have been running the ROM version that came on it without too many problems, but i thought i would upgrade it to the newest version because of WM10, now that i have there is a problem with it that is REALLY bugging me; First, i have my brightness level low so as to conserve battery life, but when i use the camera it goes to full brightness which is not a problem, it is when i finish using the camera and close it down it stays on full brightness unless i go to the screen settings and change it back to how i had it originaly.
Does anyone know how to sort this? Thanks
If you look on the Wiki there is information as to how to obtain the camera.exe file from an alternate ROM which you can then copy over the new one.
I messed around with this when I tried upgrading to WM2005.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_WM5_Patches_ChangeLog
Look for section on camera
HuSkYbOb said:
If you look on the Wiki there is information as to how to obtain the camera.exe file from an alternate ROM which you can then copy over the new one.
I messed around with this when I tried upgrading to WM2005.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_WM5_Patches_ChangeLog
Look for section on camera
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Will this patch work for WM2003 SE?
Its just an exe not a patch
Try it, (keeping your new one) and if it doesn't work then you can revert to original.
Didn't do anything, still got the problem.
padlad said:
HuSkYbOb said:
If you look on the Wiki there is information as to how to obtain the camera.exe file from an alternate ROM which you can then copy over the new one.
I messed around with this when I tried upgrading to WM2005.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_WM5_Patches_ChangeLog
Look for section on camera
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Will this patch work for WM2003 SE?
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YEAH, its from a 1.40 wm2003se rom originaly. 8)
rofl i didn't even notice winmedia 10 as i've been using pocketmusic the whole time but thanks for that.
I was trying to do the same thing, but half way, the phone automatically stop and now it would not start. It will only show Serial on the top of the screen and v2.07 on the bottom. If I put it on the cradle, the Active Sync could not recognize it and the screen will show USB on top and v2.07 on the bottom. Soft reset, full reset, removal of battery just would start it gaian. I don't have the desk top screen back. I cannot use it at all. Can someone out there please help???!!
nforsans said:
I think no-one has picked it up yet as I can't find trace of it in the forum but O2 UK has released a new ROM for the BA, XdaIIs.
I installed it - seems to be all right. Big improvements:
O2 Active UI v3.6.024 -well, seems to be more stable than previous versions
Bluetooth build 3900
Radio build 1.12
Windows mobile CE version 1.40
BlackBerry Connect v2.0
Removal of Photo Contacts
AND AND AND.... are you ready?
WINDOWS MEDIA PLAYER 10! I am not joking. I've got it on my BA.
Strange O2 does not list WMP10 in the features of the new ROM.
Download it from http://www.my-xda.com/
You'll need your O2 number and IMEI to accessd the software upgarde section of the site.
Enjoy.
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ROM 1.40 crashed my Xda IIs
SAME HERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Can anyone help????????????????????????????????
Well i had this rom on my xda2s, i have now sacked it off and gone back to the launch rom and upgraded the radio stack and bluetooth myself. Got sick of having to reset the backlight manually everytime i used the camera! Not bothered about WM10, never use it, only use TCPMP for media. Wish i had done this in the first place!
Re: ROM 1.40 crashed my Xda IIs
paulclo said:
I was trying to do the same thing, but half way, the phone automatically stop and now it would not start. It will only show Serial on the top of the screen and v2.07 on the bottom. If I put it on the cradle, the Active Sync could not recognize it and the screen will show USB on top and v2.07 on the bottom. Soft reset, full reset, removal of battery just would start it gaian. I don't have the desk top screen back. I cannot use it at all. Can someone out there please help???!!
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Celts88 said:
SAME HERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Can anyone help????????????????????????????????
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Have you tried the guide on WIKI here? -> http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_1.42.00_Upgrade
Look under the heading "First Method (Quick/Easy) (TYPE II)".
This should help you restore your device!
Regards,
Dom
XDA 2s Downgrade
Hiya All,
Sorry to be a pain in the ass, but i upgraded my phone to WM2005 and then downgraded to 2003 again. I cant seem to use the new O2 upgrade. It looks as if all is ok but when i check the system info the ExtRom Version is blank.
Please help me !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Cheers Mike

WM6 Installation Success poll

Hello all,
I recently purchased a Cingular 8525 and I'm really considering upgrading the phone's OS to WM6. I've successfully used the unlocker to unlock the SIM and made it SuperCID.
I did a search on this topic but really couldn't find anything that was in one spot....
I'm creating this poll for all those newbies (like myself who want to upgrade).
This poll is for any flavor of WM6....
Cheers to all...
Wow!!!!
It's pretty amazing that no one has bricked their phone while upgrading to WM6. As a newbie, I feel pretty confident upgrading this weekend...
I've printed up the guides and downloaded all the software...
I've decided to use the LVSW version.
Thank you to all for all your input and advice.
There are several threads with people bricking their phones (at least temporarily). Maybe after their experience they are too scared to come back here and answer the poll
mfabre said:
There are several threads with people bricking their phones (at least temporarily). Maybe after their experience they are too scared to come back here and answer the poll
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That's exactly why I read the wikis and read the threads for 3 weeks before I even THOUGHT about upgrading. And even then I had to ask questions and sound like an idiot and sweat during the whole upgrade.
I originally went with LVSW and then with Black v1.2....I just couldn't resist.
Jim
I brick and can unbrick my tytn
Yes i try to upgrade my softbank with a dopod rom, for winmobil6 LVSW, and my phone brick after a 17% but reading all wiki, i can recover so is beautiful mobile 6, i'm happy with black edition 1.1 cyu
I know exactly what you're saying I've been reading the Wiki's and guides non stop in the evenings. My wife hates me at this point because I'm spending more time reading about the upgrade and asking questions than spending "Quality Time" with her
I guess, my fear is (like many of us newbies wanting to upgrade) bricking my $500 Cing 8525 and being out of warranty. I don't know about the rest of the gang here but 1/2 a grand is a lot of duckets
Quick question for you.... may I know why you decided to go from the LVSW flavor to the Black v1.2 flavor? Was the installation process the same?
Just curious....
Thanks
Newb-Tech-Realtor said:
That's exactly why I read the wikis and read the threads for 3 weeks before I even THOUGHT about upgrading. And even then I had to ask questions and sound like an idiot and sweat during the whole upgrade.
I originally went with LVSW and then with Black v1.2....I just couldn't resist.
Jim
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I can upgrade successfully without any major problem.
The only problem is while I am trying to restore the GPRS/MMS Setting, although I am using cab file for this network wizard but only can be done for 3G/GPRS but not for MMS...
Guys i want upgrade to WM6 but when i read the bricked section of ht WM6 upgrade i am holding back, i am unsing Dopod 838 Pro which is Hermes (HTC) and i have the following ROM upgrader (plpease look at the attached Photo). can some one please advice me if they have used this ROM for the upgrade of Hermes???
i will not want my oda to be a brick as its 3 cmonth old and still under warranty...
Hi truffle1234,
You may want to create a new thread asking your question. The intent of this thread is to find out the installation success rate for people who have already tried to upgrade to WM6.
truffle1234 said:
Guys i want upgrade to WM6 but when i read the bricked section of ht WM6 upgrade i am holding back, i am unsing Dopod 838 Pro which is Hermes (HTC) and i have the following ROM upgrader (plpease look at the attached Photo). can some one please advice me if they have used this ROM for the upgrade of Hermes???
i will not want my oda to be a brick as its 3 cmonth old and still under warranty...
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joel32137 said:
I know exactly what you're saying I've been reading the Wiki's and guides non stop in the evenings. My wife hates me at this point because I'm spending more time reading about the upgrade and asking questions than spending "Quality Time" with her
I guess, my fear is (like many of us newbies wanting to upgrade) bricking my $500 Cing 8525 and being out of warranty. I don't know about the rest of the gang here but 1/2 a grand is a lot of duckets
Quick question for you.... may I know why you decided to go from the LVSW flavor to the Black v1.2 flavor? Was the installation process the same?
Just curious....
Thanks
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Well...I guess after I successfully flashed LVSW without bricking my (almost) new 8525 I thought what the hell and flashed Black v1.2 on the spur of the moment...my wife says I have impulse control issues. But I'm glad I did. It seems to run smoother, quicker response and better handling of some of my 3rd part apps.
I've done ALOT of trial and error. I have hard reset my phone (of my own volition) 5 times over the past week. I'm a bit OCD and after trying out programs to see how I run it seemed like the memory went back up all the way. So I hard reset to start over again.
I finally have it working the way I like and the Black, from my low-level of experience, seems stable and more functional than the Palm I used t carry.
I have the following installed:
Weather to Go (working construction/realty I need accurate Wx)
BattMemory (I'm anal about checking program memory and its a small plug in)
O2Plus (great for hitting a button and seeing what apps are open)
Palm threated SMS (I hate the native SMS program on the 8525)
MORTGAGECalc (REALTOR, nuff said)
GoogleMaps (REALTOR, nuff said)
Batti (I like the top bar that shows charging status and level no matter what app I'm in
ClearTemp (cleans out settings and temp filed quickly)
VibraSwitch (allows me to switch between vib and sound a la Treo 650)
PTTFix (allows me to remap the PTT button)
I've tried some other apps that did not go so well...SPB, Mobile Shell worked well a few days then slowed everything down...I liked the tabs and the plug in but it kept slowing the system down...and a bunch of others.
I'm not a big media user so I don't need TCMP or any other cool multimedia gadgets so I kept it to what I need. I keep my laptop with me normally so I don't need to watch movies or do any of that stuff. Most of my business work is done on the laptop. I have avvenu (www.avvenu.com) on my desktop so I can pull any file from my desktop from my phone via IE, which is a nice feature.
I soft reset every morning when waking the system up and it runs alot smoother than my T650 did.
I've not missed a single call since getting the 8525, the Push email is alot better than 3rd party apps for Palm, the 3G rocks where I am, and I get better reception. On my T650 I would get 1-2 bars or no service sitting in my house but with the 8525 I get 2-3 3G bars as a rule.
JIm
Impatiently waiting for Black v2.0 to be released!
aatjitra said:
I can upgrade successfully without any major problem.
The only problem is while I am trying to restore the GPRS/MMS Setting, although I am using cab file for this network wizard but only can be done for 3G/GPRS but not for MMS...
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Check out the Hermes Section and look for "Palm SMS" thread or something like that. It goes over the MMS settings quite in depth.
just follow the guide and it should be fine. I am a beginner to this too but do some research and reading and follow the GUIDE! the guide is excellent!
Well everybody, just wanted to give a brief update that I was able to upgrade my Cingular 8525 to WM6 No problems on this end. Would definitely recommend the update to all.
Which flavour did you upgrade to??
Black is back in
I had no problems with either Black 1.1 or 1.2. Upgrades went like a charm. Not waiting for Black 2.0
Used Mr Vanx's guide to upgrade my HERM200 to the LVSW edition (25/3 version). I encountered no problems at all.
Device seems to work fine, though in Surinam we don't have all the advanced mobile phone features as in europe (like gprs etc).
First time upgrade

HTC TyTN WM6 Upgrade ... Need Help!

Dear all,
I contacted HTC for my device upgrading and ROM updates, and they direct me to this forum.
I have a TyTN unlocked device, and want to upgrade to WM6. I explored all what you posted here but couldn't decide which version and link is suitable for me. Any way, here down my device information, and I'm appreciating any help to upgrade my device to WM6.
Device Information:
Device Name: HTC TyTN (Unlocked)
Language: English
Processor: SC32442A - 400MHz
Memory: 49.05 MB
System: Windows Mobile 5.0 OS 5.1.195 (Build 14955.2.3.0)
That are all information I could get from my device
Need Help my friends.
After all, I beleive that HTC should have an upgrade area to support their devices.
Thank you in advance.
Hi there!
its good to know that HTC assistants sent you here on this forum !!
I can suggest you to go for the wm6 image black 2.5 as its been always the most stable for me, so read the wiki and all the documents to upgrade your hermes to that version.
http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=37&Itemid=26
and don't run in the upgrade, take your time to read everything and if you don't understand something, come back here.
redaatef said:
I have a TyTN unlocked device, and want to upgrade to WM6.
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It depends on your personal reasons for upgrading. If you want to upgrade because of more speed and more stability you should try Black 2.5. If you are doing it because of adventuresomeness you should give all of the great roms here a try.
But at least you should try Black 2.5, Duttys V2 and Custels 1.3 to find out which one is the best for you. You should also try different radios to see if theres a difference in your area.
And don't forget the most important object: read mrvanx upgrade guides very very carefully and follow every step exactly.
be aware that the ROMs here are *unofficial* and *unsupported* ROMs.
HTC will NOT help you out if you screw up your device.
if you are unsure about flashing, then stay with the stock ROM.
I have a UK unlocked Tytn and would very strongly recommend Black 2.5.
My first ever ROM upgrade was Black 1.2 and it was soo god. 2.0 was even better and 2.5 better still. Have had no problems, battery life is much better, doesn't lockup/freeze any more, loads more memory available.....i could go on.
Go for it - follow mrvanx's upgrade guide. he makes it very easy
Flashig roms is one way... be careful...
When I first flashed a WM6 Rom on to my HERMES I made sure I read all the preinstall instructions very carefully as I didn't have a clue about flashing. MR VANX's guide is excellent, follow it carefully and you can't go wrong.
I have now successfully flashed numerous ROMS on to my device.
No-one can tell you which is the best ROM as they are all excellent for their own different features and customisations. You will need to try a few and see which you like best.
Good Luck.
I highly doubt
That an HTC representative sent someone here for ROM updates to WM 6.0.
If they did and are caught, they will probably be terminated.
I deal with HTC regularly and they don't condone or encourage our methods of tuning and research.
Be careful out there.
Thank you
Thank you a lot for your replies guys. They helped me a lot. I'll do the upgrade and will back to you with the results. Thanks again.
silverfox0214 said:
I deal with HTC regularly and they don't condone or encourage our methods of tuning and research.
Be careful out there.
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It always amazes me how corporate structures can be so schizoid. I too have received- from in-the-trenches personel- a pointer to this site specifically for beta testing WM6 Push. Conversely, the moderators here made it clear that management at HTC was a major impetus behind MS's request that the ftp archives be pulled.
The kicker for me is that the Wiki on HTC's US site specifically points to this XDA-developers and those postings are all vetted by someone at HTC USA. I'm thankful for that because that's how I found this site in the first place.
My Upgrading Status
First of all, I would like to add my voice to (teambnet) that I'm thankful for them to made me know this website and forum in the first place.
OK, about my upgrading status guys, I did exactely as shown in mrvanx.org website and did install WM6 Black 2.5, everything is gone fine except one thing, that the button of contact voice tag is not working. When I push that button, it gives me a message "Error opening the shortcut or locating the target filename.", I tried then to assign the shortcut to a program by going to Start --> Settings --> Buttons, but I couldn't find the program that should be assigned. I don't know if my problem are clear or not but I tried to explain as much I could. Any suggestions to solve that?
Thanks all,
Reda,
teambnet said:
The kicker for me is that the Wiki on HTC's US site specifically points to this XDA-developers and those postings are all vetted by someone at HTC USA. I'm thankful for that because that's how I found this site in the first place.
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I always suspected that secretly HTC were using us as beta testing guinea pigs, now it looks like I was right! And half of the fixes for their bugs are created by developers on this site.
Seriously though, if your Hermes is no longer covered by the original HTC warranty (as mine was from the very first day I got it, since I bought it from an "unauthorized" distributor), then HTC have nothing to lose by pointing someone to this site. They might as well have said, "Flush it down the toilet for all we care..."
John
HTC's wiki is just like ours, anyone can edit it... So i doubt that HTC themselves put a link to XDA on their wiki, but someone else probably did..
You need to install the voice commander CAB located on the first page of BLACK2.5 Then remap the button.
You should read thru the numerous posted before asked already resolved issues. Congrats on the UPGRADE!!!
redaatef said:
First of all, I would like to add my voice to (teambnet) that I'm thankful for them to made me know this website and forum in the first place.
OK, about my upgrading status guys, I did exactely as shown in mrvanx.org website and did install WM6 Black 2.5, everything is gone fine except one thing, that the button of contact voice tag is not working. When I push that button, it gives me a message "Error opening the shortcut or locating the target filename.", I tried then to assign the shortcut to a program by going to Start --> Settings --> Buttons, but I couldn't find the program that should be assigned. I don't know if my problem are clear or not but I tried to explain as much I could. Any suggestions to solve that?
Thanks all,
Reda,
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Finally Finished
Hi all,
Thank you stuckes, I did as you told me and everything gone very nice. WM6 is a nice OS, not that much different from WM5 at least for me. But, it's nice. Thank you all for your help in that.
I got a question, when I would to upgrade, there are many versions of WM6, Black2.5 and other versions, where can I find a complete comparison with screenshots of them to decide if I'm gonna change to another one or stick to black 2.5?
Regards,
Arnie gets tough with the chefs.....
silverfox0214 said:
That an HTC representative sent someone here for ROM updates to WM 6.0.
If they did and are caught, they will probably be TERMINATED.
I deal with HTC regularly and they don't condone or encourage our methods of tuning and research.
Be careful out there.
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Asta la vista baby !
hi ... what about black 3.00 for may tytn
thanks
naxos said:
hi ... what about black 3.00 for may tytn
thanks
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Is there black 3.00? where can we find more details about it?
redaatef said:
Is there black 3.00? where can we find more details about it?
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There's a black 3.0.1.
Easily found along with a list of many other ROMs on the wiki page here: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Cooked_ROMs
And this is the link to the Black 3.0.1 thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=305940
HTH, Oggy.

What to do with boring PDA2K

Hello everyone,
I've used my PDA2K on & off for the past 5 years but have always felt it's pretty much not worth the effort using it for anything serious. The net is slow and the general Windows 2003 SE operating system fragile, I reckon I've soft reset a thousand times since owning the unit. What advice can anyone give on how to improve it's capabilities & make it less boring to use, what change should I try. I'm not worried about frying the ROM as I only use this to surf the net nowadays & thats about it, just feel it's too good to bin but want to get something more out of it than I'm getting now.
Thanks any advice on possible software changes would be appreciated.
i would say...try win 6.5..no doubt you like that
regard stef
The PDA2K is still the best device if you need a mobile log typing unit. It's beacuse of the built in keyboard and the big portrait format screen (wich is the best if you have to to type in lists, contact data a.s.o.). This unique feature is the reason why I can't change my PPC.
Win 6.5 for me is not so important, there are few drawbacks compared to WM2003SE (no build in Excel encryption, less usable screen area (because of hotkeys), no direct menus in office applications.
install wm5, when you get bored install SPB Mobile Shell, when you get bored again change the color of the menu
seriously its quite nice app, have nice launcher etc... try it...
Thanks
Don't get me wrong I love it but just feel I'm missing something as I'm sure it's capable of so much more.
I'll take the advice and have a play with upgrading, do current 2003 apps such as my TomTom run on the upgrades. Even if not I think I'll give it a go anyway.
Thanks again for the replies
Yes it works on new WM version
I think he becomes unconfortable of the buggy WMG.S (or 6.5 we use other names cause Mycrosooft hunts us) you need to taste first WM6... then 6.1 his manilla 2D is great... and then G.S is beta but fine... try it all but men
follow everything step by step at upgrading please if you have any question ask here please.
Not so Boring now
Well + Que PPC and others,
I took your advice and upgraded and its a lot less boring.
I can't sync though, it tries but the an error message appears on BA moaning about a USB port not being available.
When I now turn on the BA I get a white screeb with start and a few icons at the top and Phone + Contacts at the bottom, clicking start takes me to a black screen with icons. If I soft reset I get the red/green/blue/white stripes while it resets.
Is all this normal or am I still stuck in bootloader, I'm new to all this so what I mean is could this be something I've not finished off correctly that is stopping me syncing now.
I don't mind fixing all the other problems once I can sync OK.
tjpearson said:
Well + Que PPC and others,
I took your advice and upgraded and its a lot less boring.
I can't sync though, it tries but the an error message appears on BA moaning about a USB port not being available.
When I now turn on the BA I get a white screeb with start and a few icons at the top and Phone + Contacts at the bottom, clicking start takes me to a black screen with icons. If I soft reset I get the red/green/blue/white stripes while it resets.
Is all this normal or am I still stuck in bootloader, I'm new to all this so what I mean is could this be something I've not finished off correctly that is stopping me syncing now.
I don't mind fixing all the other problems once I can sync OK.
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Heh tjpearson, you was searching for new use cases. I suggested to use your device more professionally. You decided to have an OS update. This way you decided the best use case for you is trouble shouting.
Seriously, I can't understand why OS upgrading is such an important thing on the BA. The benefits of the device lies in the big screen and the built in keyboard. If you search for a nice GUI take a iPhone.
No idea
Hiya pdahunter,
I have no idea what you mean or what your advising.
All I want is to surf and keep important notes plus store my gadget PDF manuals plus photography bumph.
Hey ho going for a bath now and then bed, tomos night going to watch United win, I hope, so won't be able to look at this again til Thursday night.
Hope I've no fkd this Pocket PC up with what I've done.
come on guys!!!! why always this ends like this F***N S**T THINGS!!!
EGZTHUNDER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! come on men! make your job here please...
I will prepare the scene for you a little...
@pearson
First of all please tell us wich ROM did u upload... again... please full charge your batt before UPGRADE...
I can't sync though, it tries but the an error message appears on BA moaning about a USB port not being available.
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Men write exactly the error message please, Meaning it says this... I guess i need to do.... I think my problem is... are worthless words here please provide exact messages. (does you enable the checkbox advanced network on setting usb settings?)
When I now turn on the BA I get a white screeb with start and a few icons at the top and Phone + Contacts at the bottom, clicking start takes me to a black screen with icons.
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The white screen cant be posible men... I will xplain you the new OS built..
If I can guess what you've upgrade... I mean I nedd to know wich ROM are you upgrade please provide the name or the link where you find it...
FIRST: The OS 2003 didnt has the soft buttons PHONE at left bottom and right at right bottom cause the new OS are designed for PDA phones that has buttons on that place... thats all... ok.
SECOND: you said that when you tap on start it tooks you to a black screen with icons i gueeeeeeees you have WM6.5 cause since WM2003 we had start cascade menu like windows XP or VISTA or Whatever... Thats normal on WM6.5 if you want the older start menu? just... downgrade a WM6 or 6.1 it has the older start menu.
THIRD:
If I soft reset I get the red/green/blue/white stripes while it resets.
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Well the boot screen is hardcoded in roms so... is not an issue is normal we can only change the splashscreen...
known new features and pro's for a new ROM tooks its time men I mean new apps and programs are not supported with WM2003 so this is the very first pro of upgrading...
You are not stuck on bootloader or... are you on a black screen with Serial or USB upside and downside a version... it is BOOTLOADER not the RGB screen! ok?
if it cant boots and it cant pass trough the tricolor screen well seems you need to upgrade again maybe your batt was dead on middle process and it dont have enough batt to boot... but maybe you dont wait the time... or maybe you need reupgrade a rom...
Dont be so alarmed men your device is fine calm down you are not brick jejeje
@PDAHUNTER
Heh tjpearson, you was searching for new use cases. I suggested to use your device more professionally. You decided to have an OS update. This way you decided the best use case for you is trouble shouting.
Seriously, I can't understand why OS upgrading is such an important thing on the BA. The benefits of the device lies in the big screen and the built in keyboard. If you search for a nice GUI take a iPhone.
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Seriously You need to get an Iphone the phone for kiddos... thats all I can say cause you dont help here anything...
Im gettin so frustrated and angry with this kind of guys!
If I offense somebody
Im appologized but I will not delete my post!
I will defend my point if anybody wants me to be banned its ok for me...
+ Que PPC
+ Que PPC said:
@PDAHUNTER
Seriously You need to get an Iphone the phone for kiddos... thats all I can say cause you dont help here anything...
Im gettin so frustrated and angry with this kind of guys!
If I offense somebody
Im appologized but I will not delete my post!
I will defend my point if anybody wants me to be banned its ok for me...
+ Que PPC
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1. I did not change nor delete anything here.
2. Again, why change the OS to a Version the device is not made for. The only reason I can see is a better system GUI or new applications with a better GUI. That's why I suggest to take a iPhone if this is important.
3. I'm frustrated because I'm realy interested in the technical benefits of WM6.x. Better WLAN Connection? Stereo Bluetooth? Some unique apps that doesn't run on wm2003?
But as soon somebody speaks about WM6 on the BA the focus changes to trouble shouting.
4. Why it's not helpful to say "Don't change the OS version if you search for better use cases!" ?
Great!! you have your OWN ANSWER
I'm frustrated because I'm realy interested in the technical benefits of WM6.x. Better WLAN Connection? Stereo Bluetooth? Some unique apps that doesn't run on wm2003?
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EXACTLY! thats why OS upgrading imports... thats why this matters!
So does A2dp run on wm2003... noup!!!! it runs till wm5 aku version upgrade...
Congrats.. oh and the issues on boot and other things are almost non follow step by step processes...!
Congrats.. oh and the issues on boot and other things are almost non follow step by step processes...! [/QUOTE]
correct...did you do a HARD reset afhter flashing?
jejejejejejejeje
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Sorry, Sorry, Sorry
WOH I didn't mean to upset anyone here, I'm learning.
Have no idea of what I'm doing apart from trying to update my BA to surf the net faster, be better to use and so I don't have to soft reset every 2 minutes. This is my 1st attempt, if I've gone in too deep then tell me, I'll back grade to 2003 and start again with whatever you recommend.
You know your stuff so stay friendly, calm down and I can help you set up race suspension on a Yamaha R6 for the best cornering Or if you want advice on patching a Technomate Satellite box I'm your man.
I will go back to 2003 and you tell me what to update, cos you are the men that know, I defo don't, nice one !!
Oh jpearson you are not the one in troubles here...
Well... I can tell you every steps but men.... Im on my job...
So i havent enough time to post here the process... but if you accept i can add you via MSN just PM me dont post your email here...
If not you just need to be sure follow this steps exactly how is said if you have any question ask here please ok
let me search for the link.

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