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~~ AGAIN. For all who always gets errors during ROMupdate ~~

Ok. I decided to write a short tutorial (because it is very very SIMPLE!!! ), how to upgrade any of the ROMs to any of Universal (jasjar, exec, qtek...), because I found 70% of the Universal upgrading etc forum posts are something like: "I can't upgrdae...", "I get an error message..." "coutry ID error..", etc.
1. Download the ROM you want to install
2. Best way to use winRAR to unpack it to a folder
3. There are 3 ROMs in the package: ms_.nbf (ExtendedROM), nk.nbf (CE ROM), radio_.nbf (Radio ROM)
4. Select those (from between this 3 ROMs) which you don't want to install
5. Delete these
6. Copy to the folder my attached file (MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe). This is the file which makes the install workable for all models of Universal.
7. Make your Universal in bootloader mode. (Push Light button + Power button + resetbutton at the same time) A lot of people get error message at the first time if they were not in bootloader mode. Those people can install the ROM the second time. If you are in bootloader mode you won't get error message.
8. Doubleclick to MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe. A window come up with the old ROMs and the new ROMs which will be upgraded. When this windows comes up, it is very important to wait a few seconds (5sec is enough) before you push the upgrade button.
9. Upgrade.
10. Wait until the installation program says in a window: Congratulations. Push OK button.
11. Pull out the USB cable from the Universal.
12. Do a cold reset (push the two menu buttons ("-") on the keyboard + the reset button at the same time (all of this three)
13. Everything should be fine from this time. You have to calibrate the screen and do some tutorial...
(14. If you want your Universal not to install ExtendedROM, make a softreset after setup is complete. (a popup window pops up you have 3 seconds before it installs ExtendedROM))
That's it.
It woked for me anytime in any case with any of Universals.
I hope this will help for lots of people.
Cheers

Cool! 8)
This way I see it is that there are many people out there with these (and many other) basic questions that want answering and indeed the same questions keep cropping up. A post like this is great BUT it's visibility only lasts a couple of days untill it gets swamped by more recent threads - I don't see the mod's stickying anything!!!!!
Hence: this forum could be SO much better if each section had a GUIDES area where people can submit threads like this!
>>>> ANYONE ?? <<<<
Andy

I'm totally agree!
HEY MODERATORS!

underwurlde, I have an alternative suggestion. If moderators don't push this to a special place, we have to write here something like "..." twice a day. :lol: :wink:

Why don't you put it in this forum's wiki resource? I'm sure a lot of users would be very grateful for this information!
wiki.xda-developers.com

Damm it!
How do I go to bootloader mode? and how do I know if I am at it?
Do I have to be with my activesync connected by usb to Qtek9000?
I start the maupgradeut_noid_637 and nothing happens...
Txs

Damm it!
How do I go to bootloader mode? and how do I know if I am at it?
Do I have to be with my activesync connected by usb to Qtek9000?
I start the maupgradeut_noid_637 and nothing happens...
Txs
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GOD I HATE BEING RIGHT :lol: :lol:
@Tuningszocske - ever watch 'Shawshank Redemption'? - I wonder if a daily 'bump' will piss them off into action as you suggest.
Andy 8)

Deiota said:
Damm it!
How do I go to bootloader mode? and how do I know if I am at it?
Do I have to be with my activesync connected by usb to Qtek9000?
I start the maupgradeut_noid_637 and nothing happens...
Txs
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Okay. It seems you did not read my first post.
To put your Universal into bootloader mode, read 7th point.
And how do you know you are in bootloader mode?
You can see just a blank screen with the title serial or USB on the top and something like v1.00 on the bottom. You will recognize it.
I hope :?

underwurlde said:
GOD I HATE BEING RIGHT :lol: :lol:
@Tuningszocske - ever watch 'Shawshank Redemption'? - I wonder if a daily 'bump' will piss them off into action as you suggest.
Andy 8)
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Ever watch??? This is one of my favorite films. But I cannot draw any parallel between this film and your post, but I'm sure it is because I'm hungarian and my english is something that your german So, sleng is standing above my english knowledge.

I just posted some instructions on Wiki - I hope they help
Per the suggestion, I just posted some instructions on Wiki. Take a look an see what you think. Hopefully more can be added and these can be refined to be more understandable. At least it's a start.
Here is the Wiki Universal page http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Universal
This is the three I added, under How to upgrade to the latest ROM (currently 1.30.68)
Detailed Instruction On How To Upgrade with Bootloader method http://wiki.xda-developers.com/inde...tion On How To Upgrade with Bootloader method
Instructions for those stuck on Boot Screen http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Instructions for those stuck on Boot Screen
Instructions for those with Country Code error http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Instructions for those with Country Code error

Cool!
olliesshop, if you want you can use my tutorial to add more things to the wiki site. I think mixing of your and mine tutorial would be enough for the most helpless people too. I missed from mine removeing SD and SIM card, and not to use USB hub.
I hope, one day people will understand this very very "sofisticated" method.

To Deiota It looks like when you are in bootloader mode without things in the center. (But there are when you completed the upgrade.)

Hello!
Thanks you all for your help!
I've already did the upgrade! But I have a "stupid" (maybe) question.
When I was upgrading my Qtek 9000 with JASJAR_WWE_13076_164_10900_wwe_ship.exe, it appeard a photo of a I-mate PDA, but not Jasjar. Is it OK? Is this ROM for my Qtek 9000 (or Jasjar)?
I realized that the package software that comes with I-mate is best, at least more complete then Qtek! Another thing, why or how is it possible that the same device, comes with WM5 (both) and some features included in I-mate and not in Qtek. I'm talking about the "Device unlocked" that happears in the Today Screen.
I just want to confirm that this ROM is right for me, and that It is best than my Qtek Original one!

Should be ok
From what I understand this imate ROM upgrade should work for all the HTC Universal phones, including; Universal Dopod 900 / Qtek 9000 / MDA Pro / I-mate JASJAR / O2 Xda Exec / SPV M5000 / Qtek v1640. What's amusing is when I did the upgrade to my imate Jasjar it got locked on the blue splash screen (the one with the imate logo) and now I had to ship it in for Warranty service ... time since failure 5 days and counting. I expect it back end of next week at the earliest.
I'm glad it worked for you !!!

Deiota said:
Hello!
Thanks you all for your help!
I've already did the upgrade! But I have a "stupid" (maybe) question.
When I was upgrading my Qtek 9000 with JASJAR_WWE_13076_164_10900_wwe_ship.exe, it appeard a photo of a I-mate PDA, but not Jasjar. Is it OK? Is this ROM for my Qtek 9000 (or Jasjar)?
I realized that the package software that comes with I-mate is best, at least more complete then Qtek! Another thing, why or how is it possible that the same device, comes with WM5 (both) and some features included in I-mate and not in Qtek. I'm talking about the "Device unlocked" that happears in the Today Screen.
I just want to confirm that this ROM is right for me, and that It is best than my Qtek Original one!
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All the models have just different names but totally the same hardware (with just different paintings) because there are different service providers who want to sell it. Each service provider has a fantasy-name like O2 service provider sells it as Exec, Qtek sells it as 9000, i-mate sells it as Jasjar...
Clear?

off topic, sorry
Yo!
@Tuningszocske,
yeah there is a scene in Shawshank where Andy is trying to get money to build a library so he asks the Governor if he can write a letter - to which he agrees 'write as many as you want':
So he does: One a day. Every day. Unitl he actually gets a response, which effectively says: 'Here's $200, now go away' - So he writes TWO letters every day!!!!! Guess what? He eventually gets what he wants. :lol: This is the parallel I was making re: continually 'bumping' this thread.
The squeaky wheel always gets the grease!
Andy

Not really!
well, first I want to be sure that the Rom JASJAR_WWE_13076_164_10900_wwe_ship.exe is the right for me, since the screen that appear while upgrading has a I-mate K-Jam or something!
Second, I understand that the Software that come with one can be different from another, has it happens here!
But the MAIN Windows Mobile 5, I don't understand how...
The main thing I noticed is the "device unlocked" on today screen...
My usband has a Mio A210 that has WM5 and has the same Today item, "device unlocked". My question is why the Wtek version of Rom doesn't have uit? New version of WM5? Old one? Just different?
Txs,
Deiota
Tuningszocske said:
Deiota said:
Hello!
Thanks you all for your help!
I've already did the upgrade! But I have a "stupid" (maybe) question.
When I was upgrading my Qtek 9000 with JASJAR_WWE_13076_164_10900_wwe_ship.exe, it appeard a photo of a I-mate PDA, but not Jasjar. Is it OK? Is this ROM for my Qtek 9000 (or Jasjar)?
I realized that the package software that comes with I-mate is best, at least more complete then Qtek! Another thing, why or how is it possible that the same device, comes with WM5 (both) and some features included in I-mate and not in Qtek. I'm talking about the "Device unlocked" that happears in the Today Screen.
I just want to confirm that this ROM is right for me, and that It is best than my Qtek Original one!
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All the models have just different names but totally the same hardware (with just different paintings) because there are different service providers who want to sell it. Each service provider has a fantasy-name like O2 service provider sells it as Exec, Qtek sells it as 9000, i-mate sells it as Jasjar...
Clear?
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Wiki revised
Tuningszocske said:
Cool!
olliesshop, if you want you can use my tutorial to add more things to the wiki site. I think mixing of your and mine tutorial would be enough for the most helpless people too. I missed from mine removeing SD and SIM card, and not to use USB hub.
I hope, one day people will understand this very very "sofisticated" method.
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Take a look http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Universal . I updated the "Detailed Instruction On How To Upgrade with Bootloader method" instructions, by merging both. Also, your instructions are shown "as written" in the "Instructions for those with Country Code error". I hope this helps folks.

Re: off topic, sorry
underwurlde said:
Yo!
@Tuningszocske,
yeah there is a scene in Shawshank where Andy is trying to get money to build a library so he asks the Governor if he can write a letter - to which he agrees 'write as many as you want':
So he does: One a day. Every day. Unitl he actually gets a response, which effectively says: 'Here's $200, now go away' - So he writes TWO letters every day!!!!! Guess what? He eventually gets what he wants. :lol: This is the parallel I was making re: continually 'bumping' this thread.
The squeaky wheel always gets the grease!
Andy
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Hey Under!
I understand now I saw this film a long time ago. I can remember a little bit more now.

Deiota said:
Not really!
well, first I want to be sure that the Rom JASJAR_WWE_13076_164_10900_wwe_ship.exe is the right for me, since the screen that appear while upgrading has a I-mate K-Jam or something!
Second, I understand that the Software that come with one can be different from another, has it happens here!
But the MAIN Windows Mobile 5, I don't understand how...
The main thing I noticed is the "device unlocked" on today screen...
My usband has a Mio A210 that has WM5 and has the same Today item, "device unlocked". My question is why the Wtek version of Rom doesn't have uit? New version of WM5? Old one? Just different?
Txs,
Deiota
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Deiota!
For your first question: YES IT IS A RIGHT ROM FOR YOUR DEVICE. JUST COME FROM ANOTHER SERVICE PROVIDERS. DON'T BE AFRAID YOU WON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH IT!
For second: yes, it might be that your husband has a different version of wm5. It is something like there are many types of laptops, and there are many types of windows, and you can choose which windows you install on which laptop, but you cannot install windows on a macintosh (apple) hardware or a TabletPC, which is something similar than a normal laptop, but with a few specialities. Qtek9000/O2Exec/i-mate Jasjar... has the same hadrware like a Dell/Toshiba/HP laptops with totally the same hardware inside (same RAM size, same videocard type and capacity, same harddisk...)
So, do it.
I wouldn't injure you not for the soul of me, but if after these tutorial you don't understand the procedure, you should ask somebody to do it before you make an irreversible error during upgrading!!!! IT IS DANGEROUS,YOU CAN MAKE YOUR DEVICE TOTALLY UNUSEABLE!

WM6 Installation Success poll

Hello all,
I recently purchased a Cingular 8525 and I'm really considering upgrading the phone's OS to WM6. I've successfully used the unlocker to unlock the SIM and made it SuperCID.
I did a search on this topic but really couldn't find anything that was in one spot....
I'm creating this poll for all those newbies (like myself who want to upgrade).
This poll is for any flavor of WM6....
Cheers to all...

Wow!!!!
It's pretty amazing that no one has bricked their phone while upgrading to WM6. As a newbie, I feel pretty confident upgrading this weekend...
I've printed up the guides and downloaded all the software...
I've decided to use the LVSW version.
Thank you to all for all your input and advice.

There are several threads with people bricking their phones (at least temporarily). Maybe after their experience they are too scared to come back here and answer the poll

mfabre said:
There are several threads with people bricking their phones (at least temporarily). Maybe after their experience they are too scared to come back here and answer the poll
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That's exactly why I read the wikis and read the threads for 3 weeks before I even THOUGHT about upgrading. And even then I had to ask questions and sound like an idiot and sweat during the whole upgrade.
I originally went with LVSW and then with Black v1.2....I just couldn't resist.
Jim

I brick and can unbrick my tytn
Yes i try to upgrade my softbank with a dopod rom, for winmobil6 LVSW, and my phone brick after a 17% but reading all wiki, i can recover so is beautiful mobile 6, i'm happy with black edition 1.1 cyu

I know exactly what you're saying I've been reading the Wiki's and guides non stop in the evenings. My wife hates me at this point because I'm spending more time reading about the upgrade and asking questions than spending "Quality Time" with her
I guess, my fear is (like many of us newbies wanting to upgrade) bricking my $500 Cing 8525 and being out of warranty. I don't know about the rest of the gang here but 1/2 a grand is a lot of duckets
Quick question for you.... may I know why you decided to go from the LVSW flavor to the Black v1.2 flavor? Was the installation process the same?
Just curious....
Thanks
Newb-Tech-Realtor said:
That's exactly why I read the wikis and read the threads for 3 weeks before I even THOUGHT about upgrading. And even then I had to ask questions and sound like an idiot and sweat during the whole upgrade.
I originally went with LVSW and then with Black v1.2....I just couldn't resist.
Jim
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I can upgrade successfully without any major problem.
The only problem is while I am trying to restore the GPRS/MMS Setting, although I am using cab file for this network wizard but only can be done for 3G/GPRS but not for MMS...

Guys i want upgrade to WM6 but when i read the bricked section of ht WM6 upgrade i am holding back, i am unsing Dopod 838 Pro which is Hermes (HTC) and i have the following ROM upgrader (plpease look at the attached Photo). can some one please advice me if they have used this ROM for the upgrade of Hermes???
i will not want my oda to be a brick as its 3 cmonth old and still under warranty...

Hi truffle1234,
You may want to create a new thread asking your question. The intent of this thread is to find out the installation success rate for people who have already tried to upgrade to WM6.
truffle1234 said:
Guys i want upgrade to WM6 but when i read the bricked section of ht WM6 upgrade i am holding back, i am unsing Dopod 838 Pro which is Hermes (HTC) and i have the following ROM upgrader (plpease look at the attached Photo). can some one please advice me if they have used this ROM for the upgrade of Hermes???
i will not want my oda to be a brick as its 3 cmonth old and still under warranty...
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joel32137 said:
I know exactly what you're saying I've been reading the Wiki's and guides non stop in the evenings. My wife hates me at this point because I'm spending more time reading about the upgrade and asking questions than spending "Quality Time" with her
I guess, my fear is (like many of us newbies wanting to upgrade) bricking my $500 Cing 8525 and being out of warranty. I don't know about the rest of the gang here but 1/2 a grand is a lot of duckets
Quick question for you.... may I know why you decided to go from the LVSW flavor to the Black v1.2 flavor? Was the installation process the same?
Just curious....
Thanks
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Well...I guess after I successfully flashed LVSW without bricking my (almost) new 8525 I thought what the hell and flashed Black v1.2 on the spur of the moment...my wife says I have impulse control issues. But I'm glad I did. It seems to run smoother, quicker response and better handling of some of my 3rd part apps.
I've done ALOT of trial and error. I have hard reset my phone (of my own volition) 5 times over the past week. I'm a bit OCD and after trying out programs to see how I run it seemed like the memory went back up all the way. So I hard reset to start over again.
I finally have it working the way I like and the Black, from my low-level of experience, seems stable and more functional than the Palm I used t carry.
I have the following installed:
Weather to Go (working construction/realty I need accurate Wx)
BattMemory (I'm anal about checking program memory and its a small plug in)
O2Plus (great for hitting a button and seeing what apps are open)
Palm threated SMS (I hate the native SMS program on the 8525)
MORTGAGECalc (REALTOR, nuff said)
GoogleMaps (REALTOR, nuff said)
Batti (I like the top bar that shows charging status and level no matter what app I'm in
ClearTemp (cleans out settings and temp filed quickly)
VibraSwitch (allows me to switch between vib and sound a la Treo 650)
PTTFix (allows me to remap the PTT button)
I've tried some other apps that did not go so well...SPB, Mobile Shell worked well a few days then slowed everything down...I liked the tabs and the plug in but it kept slowing the system down...and a bunch of others.
I'm not a big media user so I don't need TCMP or any other cool multimedia gadgets so I kept it to what I need. I keep my laptop with me normally so I don't need to watch movies or do any of that stuff. Most of my business work is done on the laptop. I have avvenu (www.avvenu.com) on my desktop so I can pull any file from my desktop from my phone via IE, which is a nice feature.
I soft reset every morning when waking the system up and it runs alot smoother than my T650 did.
I've not missed a single call since getting the 8525, the Push email is alot better than 3rd party apps for Palm, the 3G rocks where I am, and I get better reception. On my T650 I would get 1-2 bars or no service sitting in my house but with the 8525 I get 2-3 3G bars as a rule.
JIm
Impatiently waiting for Black v2.0 to be released!

aatjitra said:
I can upgrade successfully without any major problem.
The only problem is while I am trying to restore the GPRS/MMS Setting, although I am using cab file for this network wizard but only can be done for 3G/GPRS but not for MMS...
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Check out the Hermes Section and look for "Palm SMS" thread or something like that. It goes over the MMS settings quite in depth.

just follow the guide and it should be fine. I am a beginner to this too but do some research and reading and follow the GUIDE! the guide is excellent!

Well everybody, just wanted to give a brief update that I was able to upgrade my Cingular 8525 to WM6 No problems on this end. Would definitely recommend the update to all.

Which flavour did you upgrade to??

Black is back in
I had no problems with either Black 1.1 or 1.2. Upgrades went like a charm. Not waiting for Black 2.0

Used Mr Vanx's guide to upgrade my HERM200 to the LVSW edition (25/3 version). I encountered no problems at all.
Device seems to work fine, though in Surinam we don't have all the advanced mobile phone features as in europe (like gprs etc).
First time upgrade

Backlight and tidy up artemis

Hi my backlight control's rubbish - whatever time I set it to it reverts to 10 secs all on its own ! Also, if I may, I bought this 2nd hand and there's a load of crap files on it especially in the windows folder anyone know of a good tidy-up / cleaner programme - and am I being tooooo anal if I want to get rid of all the silly smilies image files as well or are they too small to worry about. Thanks to anyone for taking the time to read this drivel. Regards Roger

rogertb said:
Hi my backlight control's rubbish - whatever time I set it to it reverts to 10 secs all on its own ! Also, if I may, I bought this 2nd hand and there's a load of crap files on it especially in the windows folder anyone know of a good tidy-up / cleaner programme - and am I being tooooo anal if I want to get rid of all the silly smilies image files as well or are they too small to worry about. Thanks to anyone for taking the time to read this drivel. Regards Roger
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I just got my second hand too and I just decided to upgrade the whole ROM. Check the posts in Artemis Mobile. Meschle made awesome ROM 4.1. I use the Vanilla version, probably fastest and not too much additional programs as in the Full or Lite version. Very fast, stable and neat looking. This way you get rid of all old files without wondering which to unistall, etc. Make sure you follow all the instructions on how to upgrade ROM. I was little confused at first, but it is actually pretty straightforward. Good luck.

backlight - mine did this
rogertb said:
Hi my backlight control's rubbish - whatever time I set it to it reverts to 10 secs all on its own ! Also, if I may, I bought this 2nd hand and there's a load of crap files on it especially in the windows folder anyone know of a good tidy-up / cleaner programme - and am I being tooooo anal if I want to get rid of all the silly smilies image files as well or are they too small to worry about. Thanks to anyone for taking the time to read this drivel. Regards Roger
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upgrade to meschle's artemis touch 4.01. you really, *really* will like it, and it'll fix your problem. honestly, it's twice the phone it was after the upgrade.

Thanks both - a few questions if you don't mind - now I am a real newbie at this - am only just about aware of what ROM is ! some kind of memory I guess. I'll keep looking but so far can't find instructions (those for an idiot anyway). There are also so many versions I am really confused - is this what I want ? ARTEMIS VANILLA 4.01 WWE ROM - WM 6.1 Final 5.2.19199 (SDHC). What's the reference to "Radio" - also I'm on a mac and have to plug up an old PC to use sync - very worrying I can see me bricking the whole thing ! Thanks so much for your time - Roger

Help with BSB latest Rom (6.5.1A/S)..Putting it out the the masses to help out!

Hey, I know this is already in a thread, but I wanted to get it out to the masses as there is alot more chance of someone being able to help me this way...and my problem is really buggin me!
Cheers guys!
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Originally Posted by bmanashe View Post
Anyone else notice how slow the keyboard is on the new updated kernal rom (6.5.1 a)...also, cant double tap to zoom in opera!! Great great GREAT rom, but annoying problems that make me wanna revert back to 6.5q!! any fixes anyone? anyone kno an ezinput version I can change to to solve this problem? or an opera registry fix to allow double tap to zoom??
Cheers guys....
You change the repeat rate from registry
\HKCU\ControlPanel\Keybd\RepeatRate default 8->4 (or less)
Had no probl. w. double tap to zoom in Opera. You can check the Opera setup with about:config from your browser
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Hey, thanks for your speedy reply!! if it were not for people like yourself my diamond would be a very dull device indeed!!
Right, I changed the repeat rate and tried from 4 to 3 to 2 right down to 0 and it seems to have no affect on my problem...for example, on my older builds, if i repeatedly pressed '.....' it would input the dots for however many times I pressed the button into my text, even if it did take a few seconds to catch up...now wen I write a text or somethin, i have to wait until the last letter I have pressed is on screen before I can enter a new letter...if I type too quickly, it misses out loads of letters until it feels ready to recieve a new one...before I could just type away and I always knew it would catch up with itself and remember what I had pressed a few milliseconds ago!! now I can repeatedly hit '.......' and only 1 dot will appear on screen! i have to wait a second before I press '.' again! same with backspace....i used to be able to hit backspace repeatedly very quickly and delete a whole load of text, even if it took a second to catch up, now I press it several times and only 1 letter deletes!! I have to wait a few milliseconds to press backspace again before I can delete another letter! very very tedious!! any ideas??! its really buggin me, its ruining the way I text and email. its not just the dots or backspace...every letter is the same, so its basically impossible to type quickly... I've tried another keyboard 2! 'fingerkeyboard' which is really nice and looks great, but it does the same thing!! last build (6.5q) worked fine and the same way as my original 6.1 rom.
Also with opera, I had alook at the config options, but could not see an option to enable double tap to zoom! I dont suppose you know a registry tweak for that aswel do ya??
Looking forward to your reply!
Kind regards
Ben
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Can any1 help??! is no-one else that upgraded to Bsb 6.5.1 A/S finding that texting is slower??! its not just the keyboard tho...I notice even when I'm scrolling in Opera or through my list of programmes, I flick my finger quite fast (Like I used to on the other roms) yet the screen does not keep up like it used to!! It gives me the vibration feedback on every finger stroke, but only scrolls if I move my finger abit slower!! someone who upgraded must have the same problem??! plz help..there must be a registry tweek out there sumwhere to increase the reaction speed of the screen..??

Why the double topic???
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=562469

i think it was a problem of that build so you wont be able to fix it until i update the rom... but you know... my diamond is at SAT so be patient

Cheers
Sorry about double post!!! tried to change title but accidently just made it as a new post! I'm going to try and delete it now if I can!!
Makeveral- Thanks for your reply!!! As long as I know I'm not the only one experiencing this issue and at least I know that nothing can be done at the moment!! Like I said before, I think your Roms are really great and I love this new version so much that I dont even want to revert back to the un-finger friendly versions, so I think I will just wait for your diamond to get fixed and for a new update to come out!! I think I can handle it until then!! Have they said your diamond can be fixed then??? your not upgrading and abandoning your precious diamond quite yet??!
Anyways, cant wait to see what new tricks you have up your sleave! keep up the good work and thanks again for your reply and putting my mind at ease!!
Cheers
Ben

bmanashe said:
Sorry about double post!!! tried to change title but accidently just made it as a new post! I'm going to try and delete it now if I can!!
Makeveral- Thanks for your reply!!! As long as I know I'm not the only one experiencing this issue and at least I know that nothing can be done at the moment!! Like I said before, I think your Roms are really great and I love this new version so much that I dont even want to revert back to the un-finger friendly versions, so I think I will just wait for your diamond to get fixed and for a new update to come out!! I think I can handle it until then!! Have they said your diamond can be fixed then??? your not upgrading and abandoning your precious diamond quite yet??!
Anyways, cant wait to see what new tricks you have up your sleave! keep up the good work and thanks again for your reply and putting my mind at ease!!
Cheers
Ben
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i dunno they just took it at the shop and said that they would send it to SAT.. ofc if they find out that im using custom roms they wont fix it but my diamond was really DEAD (i hope )

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makeveral said:
i dunno they just took it at the shop and said that they would send it to SAT.. ofc if they find out that im using custom roms they wont fix it but my diamond was really DEAD (i hope )
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Well, for your sake, I hope they cant so u can get the upgrade! I love the feeling of a fresh new gadget to mess around with!! for all of us who rely on and love our diamonds to bits, I hope u get it back so u can carry on making that great rom!
in the meanwhile, can u suggest a version of your rom that doesnt have the screen problem I mentioned, yet still have those nice finger friendly menu's? or maybe another rom by another developer that u can suggest?? I would really appreciate ur advise...u seem like u kno what ur talkin about! lol
Cheers
Ben

My T7373 Is Here !!! YAY !!

I haven't figured out how to do anything except insert the battery and sim but WOW .. My totally honest first impression is maybe I like it as well or better than my iphone .. That is saying A LOT !!!

If you like it already, just wait until you figure out how to turn it on!
And of course when you start flashing ROMS and so forth...
It is better than the iPhone yes, but it is an entirely different beast. Don't expect it to run perfectly stock. If you spend a little time hacking it you can get it to run almost exactly how you'd like it to.
And really, isn't hacking half the fun of owning a WinMo phone? I think so. Even after I have my phone set up perfectly on one ROM, the urge to reflash is so strong that I can only hold out for a month, maybe two at most, until I start all over again. Yay.

congrats! Once you start figuring your way around the phone be sure to visit this thread full of great apps:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550973
If you have any questions you know who to call ghostbusters!
enjoy your new phone

That thread that burton gave you is definitely the best place to start, to learn about all sorts of things you can do with and to your new fav gadget.
Installing apps and tweaks to your phone is usually a simple matter of obtaining a .cab file for whatever you want to install, copy the .cab to your phone (to a file on the SD card is best, so you can leave them there for future re-use), and clicking on the .cab to run it. Once you're comfortable doing that, I would highly recommend running the two cabs I've attached here, they're a good idea for any new TP2 owner; they improve the native memory management in the phone, and free up memory much better once apps are done using it, and they'll go a long way towards making your whole experience better (without them, your memory use will keep creeping up on you until you reset).

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And really, isn't hacking half the fun of owning a WinMo phone?
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You are so right. I have the HTC Shift pretty much since it came to the USA .. I bought one - unleashed FULL WinMo .. sold it .. then missed it and bought another. I have Full WinMo and Phone on it .. I think all I need is blue-tooth on the WinMo side and for WinMo to recognize a memory card. Pretty sure neither of those hacks have been worked out. I can wait!!

PS .. thanks for the link and the files as well .. First thing I am going to do is sync my contacts .. then PLAY ..

Well the Shift is an even more different beast. That thing really is a mini-computer. Not sure how great of a phone it would make.
Anyone know if HTC is planning on coming out with a successor to the Shift?

The shift is for sure a computer. I have Win7 on it and WinMo 6 I think .. There is no bluetooth on the phone side so voice comes out of the speaker. If you held it up to your head it would look ridiculous.
Still ... it is nice to have a phone in it, only because you can

Miss my iphone desktop - Home Screen
I think I have been using my iphone too long because I am having a horrible time figuring out a design I like. I miss my iphone desktop.

If you haven't already, try out SPB mobile shell. It gives a very customizable interface w/ widgets.

I think I have that App .. I will first look on my computer for it . thanks. The thing that I find annoying that I haven't figured out is when I click on the phone to make a call. It opens half keypad half contacts. No "hard" buttons to scroll up and down through the contact list. .. correct ??

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I think I have that App .. I will first look on my computer for it . thanks. The thing that I find annoying that I haven't figured out is when I click on the phone to make a call. It opens half keypad half contacts. No "hard" buttons to scroll up and down through the contact list. .. correct ??
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That is partialy correct. It actually brings up your call log. To pull up a number from your contacts just start typing on the keypads (either the number i.e 818 555 1234 or the name ie. Dad = 323). You can also click the all contacts button and go to a pure list of contacts, which you can then scroll through with the touch screen.