Included PDF Viewer in XDA-Live ROM? - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development

Hey all,
I love the work Kyphur has done and am using .10 of his Live ROM now with no problems. I see .20 is coming out, but he has put ClearVUE PDF back. Am I the only one that thinks this program sucks? On my HTC Hermes I went through everything I could do to get rid of it, and I am loving PocketXdf right now, but now it seems to be coming back! Lets vote on it and maybe change Kyphur's mind!

best pdf viewer
hi
i have a copy of PICSEL BROWSER... imho its the best..
if kyphur wants to embedd this one in the .2 version of the rom.. ill send it to him by PM

I dont think we should be picky, it is his ROM but I vote pcketxpdf, small and low resources. Pretty quick viewing, and free.

I have had problems opening some pdfs with both the clearvue and pocketx so my vote goes for adobe even though it has the most memory footprint. Cant have it all i guess....

I would vote for Adobe, as I also have had problems opening newer pdf's with PocketXpdf and ClearVue. and Adobe is also free...

Isn't Adobe also like 8MB?

Okay, I hear you. ClearVue got back in because I never removed it from my original Base Rom.
I want to Release v0.20 Wednesday Evening. So to be sure I have time to do as voted, this vote will be closed Tuesday Evening at 8:00Pm (US Central Std Time (-6.00 GMT).
This is a Rom for the people, by the people and of the people... err well maybe not that last one but you know what I mean...
Kyphur

I initially voted for PocketXPDF but I'd like to retract that vote and put it in for Adobe. Less than 5 minutes after voting, I quickly found the limitation of my selection as it couldn't open 2 different PDF's mailed to me. Adobe doesn't have an issue with these files on my friends 8525.

I don't understand why the WM5 version of Foxit Reader never makes it to these PDF viewer listings... it's the smallest memory footprint (1,350kB), fast like hell, works fine here since ages...

Sorry, I couldn't list them all, maybe vote for install your own!
szlevi said:
I don't understand why the WM5 version of Foxit Reader never makes it to these PDF viewer listings... it's the smallest memory footprint (1,350kB), fast like hell, works fine here since ages...
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One vote for PocketXPDF
I keep service documentation with me in PDF - files as big as 30MB. I have installed Adobe, ClearVue, PocketXPDF and Foxit Reader. I got less problems browsing big documents with PocketXPDF so it is associated with .pdf extension in my TyTN.

My vote goes to adobe.
I used ClearVue and I don't like it (does not open all pdf files), never used pocketXpdf but apparently it also has problems with some files.
So its better 8mb of reliable program than 1mb of problems.

ClearVue PDF is actually a commercial product, but I guess it's embedded in most HTC phones anyway, so not a big deal.

ibeqa said:
My vote goes to adobe.
I used ClearVue and I don't like it (does not open all pdf files), never used pocketXpdf but apparently it also has problems with some files.
So its better 8mb of reliable program than 1mb of problems.
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I think Adobe should be off the list since it is HUGE. I have not heard of problems with pocketxpdf, but if it is true then stick with clearvue. 8MB is ridiculous.

in terms of reliability, I would vote for Adobe.
If Adobe reader can be aqueezed into the ROM that will be great, even though it is 8mb, it wont take up any user ROM storage.
If it cannot be squeezed in then I would go for pocketxpdf.
Clearvue is ridicously slow and unusable when viewing multiple pages imho.

hmpf...
Pleeease,
not Adobe. Its a massive RAM eater.
I did install PocketX a couple of days ago and it works great.

I'm closing this discussion
If I have any hope of changing it for tomorrow's release I can't wait longer for the results. Looks like Adobe gets it.
Like anything embedded in the Rom if you don't like it simply don't use it and install what you prefer, it won't touch your RAM if you never launch it and deleting 1 shortcut from your Programs folder won't hurt anyone.
In the event that I can't get it in in time for this release then it will be in the next one.

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wm6 on t mobile dash pics!

check Re: wm6 for Tmobile dash?
------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I know the screen shots are a bit blurry so try to shrink it or photoshop if needed.
http://img02.picoodle.com/img/img02/...9m_77c6bf5.jpg
-Main screen... not much different but a few icon changes
http://img01.picoodle.com/img/img01/...9m_fe6ac41.jpg
-The new Mobile IE with a search bar
http://img01.picoodle.com/img/img01/...9m_7aff6d7.jpg
-Active Sync 4.5.. modeled for Vista... when used with AS4.5Beta... the sync is so much more stable compared to AS4.2 or AS4.1...
http://img02.picoodle.com/img/img02/...9m_f1cb263.jpg
-Internet Sharing eliminates the Wireless Modem application from prior versions. This is a major step up when tethering the phone to your laptop. it eliminates the need for the "HTC Modem" driver completely and the headache needed in "tricking" the device to work.
http://img01.picoodle.com/img/img01/...9m_915de71.jpg
-Windows Live Messenger... just a small step up... Havn't tested the stability yet.
so are you telling us you have WM6 on your dash?
I cant see any of your pic. Can you check your links? I would love to see pics.
Here is the link to pics from brighthand.
Main screen... not much different but a few icon changes
The new Mobile IE with a search bar
Active Sync 4.5.. modeled for Vista... when used with AS4.5Beta... the sync is so much more stable compared to AS4.2 or AS4.1...
Internet Sharing eliminates the Wireless Modem application from prior versions. This is a major step up when tethering the phone to your laptop. it eliminates the need for the "HTC Modem" driver completely and the headache needed in "tricking" the device to work.
Windows Live Messenger... just a small step up... Havn't tested the stability yet.
djdanska said:
I cant see any of your pic. Can you check your links? I would love to see pics.
Here is the link to pics from brighthand.
Main screen... not much different but a few icon changes
The new Mobile IE with a search bar
Active Sync 4.5.. modeled for Vista... when used with AS4.5Beta... the sync is so much more stable compared to AS4.2 or AS4.1...
Internet Sharing eliminates the Wireless Modem application from prior versions. This is a major step up when tethering the phone to your laptop. it eliminates the need for the "HTC Modem" driver completely and the headache needed in "tricking" the device to work.
Windows Live Messenger... just a small step up... Havn't tested the stability yet.
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Their photoshopping skills need some work
no i wish i hd the ruu wm6 for excalibur but the member who posted this on brighthand works for htc
leoiden said:
no i wish i hd the ruu wm6 for excalibur but the member who posted this on brighthand works for htc
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There are some things that throw me off:
1.he post says the pictures where taken with an 8525. I don't know of any canera phone that has that bright of flash.
secondly, why is there a glare from a flash on every part of the phone but the screen.
On one picture you can see what looks like a bad edge when editing.
jcjdoss said:
There are some things that throw me off:
1.he post says the pictures where taken with an 8525. I don't know of any canera phone that has that bright of flash.
secondly, why is there a glare from a flash on every part of the phone but the screen.
On one picture you can see what looks like a bad edge when editing.
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Conspiracy?
No, wait that's not a flash in the sky, it's a flourescent light fixture. These pictures must have been taken in an office. The glare is from the light overhead and in one picture due to the angle you can actually see the next light fixture over.
HTC GUY works for HTC, he is an engineer and I would trust any pictures that he posts.
mar11974 said:
Conspiracy?
No, wait that's not a flash in the sky, it's a flourescent light fixture. These pictures must have been taken in an office. The glare is from the light overhead and in one picture due to the angle you can actually see the next light fixture over.
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The only thing that throws that off is how the light concentrates to the left. Even our halogen lights at my office do not beam that direct. That is hitting the device like direct sunlight vs a flourescent light as they light more evenly.
But I dont care really, I just like the pics and how WM6 may/does look.
pink
Engadget just posted some WM6 pics:
http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/08/windows-mobile-6-standard-in-pictures/
A few of the screenshots reference "Excalibur" and "JOGGR"...
Really cool pics, hopes WM6 ROM for excalibur will coming soon...
BTW, look at the Radio Version...is the same one in the latest excalibur ROM...So...
http://www.pdafrance.com/articles/l...700/Windows-Mobile-6---Premieres-impressions/
Windows Mobile 6 review running on the Dash....(French)
excaliber wm6
okay... so now we've seen the screen shots...how do i get wm6 on my excaliber?
Yeah, how do we get WM6 on our Dash?? I want this so bad!
almost everyone wants wm6. you'll just have to wait.
Hmmm, check out Geek's coverage...
http://www.geek.com/news/geeknews/2007Feb/lab20070207002377.htm
... that device looks quite familiar don't ya think?! It is confirmed... WMP6 is on the Dash... now will it come to us?!
http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/11/windows-mobile-6-out-supports-new-resolutions-too/
Looks like we're officially going to see WM6 on the Dash in the upcoming months. Can't wait!
WM6 is released in the wild...
People...not sure if this thread is still active but those who read this and want wm6 (all be it a beta) on their phone real bad will love this...
Do a little searching for it on ... i'm not sure if the rules allow this but it's harmless really..search the major torrent search engines and ye shall find it. How do I know? Look who created it ;p (Hint: This major torrent search engine starts with a "D"...come on if you can't figure that one out your shouldn't be upgrading your phone in the first place -hehe)
Anyways...this is a UI Test build and it's pretty darn stable. It's been running on my dash for over a week now and no major bugs. Windows Live screen is a tad buggy (when attempting to log into Live the home screen gives error message and you have to change back to another screen...it works some times but it's far from perfect). Full HTML email (exchange 2007 only and some webmail..like hotmail and verizon dsl email... give you full HTML messages). The OZ chat client finally includes Messenger in the selection. My Bluetooth headest is a moto HS810 and it works...just a bit buggy...
What else...Oh yeah office mobile (editing capability) are back! Word, Excel, and Powerpoint and they work great so far. The new IE browser does have a search on the cool new "homepage"...though I haven't really found the quit/exit option...I have to kill it through the task manager...
Last thing which may just be because this is Beta still but I noticed that more application memory was being used on the average without any programs running. On a fresh boot there is more memory, but after loading a few and even after shutting them all down through task manager the memory doesn't seem to go back up past 10,000KB free...if you get it that high your lucky. Activesync works great even in Vista's mobile control center thing.
The only thing that isn't working is the Tmobile account WAP page when attempting to access via the NEW WINWAP app...it stated that this version isn't supported yet and if you are a tester you need to call them up and register in order to access via this version)
All in all a great release for those who just can't wait anymore for the stupid thing to get released. However it's 100% confirmed that the Tmobile Dash will be getting this upgrade to its current users for free...thus why I don't feel bad that you can find it in the wild...
I take no credit for this being released in any way! I found it on some lowly forum in which I don't even remember where. It wasn't very easy to find so I am helping people find it so they can test it.
gee i wonder where that was.
it was posted here first!
ppl.
gr33k said:
Last thing which may just be because this is Beta still but I noticed that more application memory was being used on the average without any programs running. On a fresh boot there is more memory, but after loading a few and even after shutting them all down through task manager the memory doesn't seem to go back up past 10,000KB free...if you get it that high your lucky. Activesync works great even in Vista's mobile control center thing.
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The reason that the memory usage is so high is primarily because of the additional T-Mobile apps that intercept SMS's (for IM's, e-mail, etc), as well as My-5, and some other T-Mobile stuff.
I'm guess that they also may have changed the way memory management is handled in this, because even when i get down to near zero free, i can still do everything just fine, without any extra lag or error messages. It could be something like how Vista caches things in RAM and actually has a goal of filling up as much as possible with cached items (which is a good thing).

No Deepfish? Try minimo instead...

Like many others, I was too late for the Deepfish beta (got the cab, couldn't activate)
Came across this little item on a news article and am about to install onto my shiny black ROM. Says for WM5, but will give it a shot anyway:
http://www.mozilla.org/projects/minimo/
Anyone else got this/ssen this?
Paul
Tried it, more like Mini-slow.
erm - you know what, you're right.
What a pile of poo - google wouldn't even load properly!
I used opera, but it wasn't too much better.
Now I've got PIE plus from www.reensoft.com. lets you do tabbed browsing and more.
I agree
I've tried every single browser out there. Minimo is by far the slowest with loading. I didn't even try out all of its functionality because I couldn't handle how slow it was going. One nice option is the beta version from Opera. Right now you can download it without any limitation on the time you can use for and it's free. Give it a shot. I guarantee that you will like it more than Minimo.
Try this overview of everything that can view a webpage for Windows Mobile.
The Opera 8.65 beta expires on June 1st.
I think the opera beta plays on for existing users.
picsel browser
I have just starting using Picsel Browser which has been extracted into a cab file from a samsung win mob 5 phone and is floating around on the internet (i had to brave howardforums to get it). I think its excellent, has the same graphical premise as deepfish, but with plenty of other features.
Also make sure you don't miss my UPDATED Web Browsing Bible ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=301009 ); now, it also contains a Picsel review!
Scrog said:
Tried it, more like Mini-slow.
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LOL... No ****.
memory eating
Is it just me or is minimo somewhat memory heavy?

So many roms...ARGHHHH

Guys,
Been testing the various roms available for some time now, XDALive, Black, Schaps etc but just can't find a single Rom that allows the phone to function as its supposed to, i.e. Fast, efficient and usable.
XDA Live and Black appeared to be great at first, until I installed TomTom and a few other minor apps, at which point they just slowed until the phone took 2/3 seconds to come out of standby, and when ringing the phone, it wouldn't even make a sound until the 2nd/3rd ring!?
Yesterday I flashed to Schaps and its even worse, before installing ANYTHING extra! 3/4 seconds from standby although it is a great looking rom.
Just seems a real shame, is the phone's hardware the limitation or is there a Rom out there that really does make a good job of enabling the best functionality from the Hermes??
ashleyhall said:
Guys,
Been testing the various roms available for some time now, XDALive, Black, Schaps etc but just can't find a single Rom that allows the phone to function as its supposed to, i.e. Fast, efficient and usable.
XDA Live and Black appeared to be great at first, until I installed TomTom and a few other minor apps, at which point they just slowed until the phone took 2/3 seconds to come out of standby, and when ringing the phone, it wouldn't even make a sound until the 2nd/3rd ring!?
Yesterday I flashed to Schaps and its even worse, before installing ANYTHING extra! 3/4 seconds from standby although it is a great looking rom.
Just seems a real shame, is the phone's hardware the limitation or is there a Rom out there that really does make a good job of enabling the best functionality from the Hermes??
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Same-same feeling here. Tried all, still can't get the reliability and responsiveness of original WM5 Jasjam ROM. It's not a rant and of course I can always go back, but it makes me wander never the less..
Edit 15:30,
Well after such a statement I guess I owe some specifics:
- Hermes 100 and 200
- SPL-2.10.Olipro
- IPL: 1.04
- Radio: v1.43.00.00
- Tried the various available RTM versions, much too slow responding, haven't resolved the SOD problem for me
- reverted to what I consider to be the most stable and comfortable release - LVSW 19/5 (elf edition), still experience SOD but apprx. once in 24 Hrs. Still makes the WM6 Hermes unreliable as a phone, since for those unfamiliar with SOD, it means that while actually frozen, the phone looks externaly to be OK and working, respective LEDs blinking. Tried all solutions known and yet some.. drafted to this some heavy dev colleagues but still there.
Frustrating isn't it, perhaps the Hermes just isn't ready for WM6, would be logical as they haven't launched the Hermes OEM with WM6 yet have they?
Cheers, Ash
If you have a bit, give my latest ROM a try and tell me what you think.
Sleuth255 said:
If you have a bit, give my latest ROM a try and tell me what you think.
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Can do, how do you believe its better than the rest? Where can I get it from?
Thanks mate!
Click the link on my sig.
My ROM is a graft and is not based on any one m$ hermes build. It has components from a number of different devices.
Sleuth255 said:
If you have a bit, give my latest ROM a try and tell me what you think.
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Sleuth255, you are counted with the serious in my book, so I should definitely do so. At the moment I kind of stabilized my devices (less than a SOD in every 24 Hrs. time frame), and I am pretty dependant on my phone.. but... at same time I've a XDA-dev soul, so I don't count on myself to withstand the temptation to try yours...
However Ash's quest remains. WTF happens with WM6 on the Hermes. No disrespect to those praising it, but if it doesn't work here, it most probably doesn't work elsewhere if you push it to same limits I do.. And where is HTC's RTM. I would expect it's core to be reasonably well, then use it in the kitchen for "our flavours", but apparently RTM is not there yet, or is it RTM ?
Sleuth255 said:
If you have a bit, give my latest ROM a try and tell me what you think.
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Sleuth255, you are counted with the honorable in my address book, so I should definitely try yours, thank you. At the moment I kind of stabilized my devices (less than a SOD in every 24 Hrs. time frame) with LVSW-Elf 2.1, and I am pretty dependant on my phones.. However... at same time I've a XDA-dev soul, so I don't count on myself to withstand the temptation to try yours...
In any case Ash's quest remains. WTF happens with WM6 on the Hermes. No disrespect to those praising it, but if it doesn't work here, it most probably doesn't work elsewhere. At least if you push the envelope to same limits I do.. And where is HTC's RTM. I would expect it's core to first be reasonably solid, then use it in the kitchen for cooking our flavours, but apparently RTM is not there yet, or is it RTM at all, and if it is how come it ain't published on HTC support site yet ?
Questions..questions... but it's fun, isn't it ?
HTC's core CE/XIP for hermes was RTM as of v5.2.1238 and is quite stable IMO. It's the IMGFS that's buggy.
Hermes has always had issues coming out of standby and this delay is what affects the time the call connects to the time you hear the first ring. I noticed this the very first time I tried my TyTN (coming from a Wizard).
I've always wanted to uncover the specific code that handles this because there's also a nagging bit that forces portrait mode as a workaround for the magnets in the case Because of this, I have to disable standby whenever I'm using my stowaway bt keyboard.
edit: SOD could be solved as well by dis-assembling this code...
Sleuth, I agree with you (again). And you are also very right on RTM (I happen to be somehow..remotely... connected to them people in Redmond, but I shouldn't exploit this subject too much here.....
Anyway it's pi__ing me off quite a lot and the "Israeli Team" has given SOD a good chunk of time to no result. What amazes me is that this is one Huge issue that doesn't ring an alarm at HTC's.. BTW assuming that under the hood Hermes 100 and Hermes 200 are one and the same (so says my favorite CTO), I can't understand how would my JasJam (original WM5 ROM) be bullet proof in respect to SOD, while my TyTn showed SOD and call delay on WM5 as well. Maybe all Hermesses weren't born equal (and I refer to the latest crop, post childhood issues).
I happened to work with HTC and I know them to take stuff like this seriously. What happens here ....
So can we conclude that the Hermes wasn't ever *supposed* to run WM6, hence why all the WM6 roms just simply don't really work very well once you install just a couple of apps? Some without even installing supplemental programs?
I can't conclude that. WM6 works wonderfully on my hermes. I can conclude at this point that the device has some powersave related ideosyncracies that may or may not be software related. This is why I'm interested in your XP with my ROM.
Sleuth255 said:
I can't conclude that. WM6 works wonderfully on my hermes. I can conclude at this point that the device has some powersave related ideosyncracies that may or may not be software related. This is why I'm interested in your XP with my ROM.
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I agree with Sleuth, WM6 works so much better on my TyTn than WM5... In every way.
Ok, the (slight) wakeup delay at phonecalls is there but certainly no more than with WM5. And Sleuth's new ROM is very stabile, pretty fast and with very little memory leaks.
At least it is in my case...
Ive been using WM6 releases for hermes since they first surfaced
my favourites are
Schap's WM6 Pro 3.30c
LVSW (latest June release)
Windows Mobile VI Pro - Black 2.5
I don't use Device for gaming at all
I use It strictly for work, this means:
Organizing my day with SBSH PocketBreeze
Chatting with Live messenger
see the weather news with weatherPanel (Schap's ROM replaced my choice of weatherpanel)
I work with/edit simple word documents on the road and e-mail them
Take many photos and record videos
and also watch big videos 22~50megs in both .wmv and .3gp format
Surely some ROM's were a real pain and unstable
with the above mentioned ROM's
My device Is stable and fast
Reading around thoughts and opinions surely will help many new to the PDA scene and surely will reward them with knowledge and make their WM experience more fun and useful rather than adventurous and experimenting
Definetely my TyTN is more useful fast and stable now with WM6
rather than when It was fueled with WM5
Just my 2 cents
sugardad said:
Definetely my TyTN is more useful fast and stable now with WM6
rather than when It was fueled with WM5
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Same here, I'm very pleased with WM6 (currently vp3G). I've installed some apps and its faster and more stable than before. I have no freezes, no sleeps of dead, no lock ups - with none of the Roms.
Programs in use:
Always running:
.) ILauncher
.) PhotoContactsPro
.) BatteryStatus
Installed:
.) Mobipocket Reader
.) SK Tools
.) Vijay's Brighter Screen
.) enAlarm
.) GS Finder
.) Total Commander
.) PocketIrked
My first WM6 ROM was the XDA Live.. then I started playing with the free storage.. created modified XDA Live ROM ( later called "WM6 Brick" because it wouldn't boot for ppl without MFG BL).. anyway.. a week later I bricked my Hermes completely trying to get it working with all BLs.. Then I was out for 2 months.. as my Hermes was being repaired..
When it came back I started flashing it with different WM6 roms.. (I guess I liked it much more when there had been only one wm6 rom available). They've all looked nice.. but none of them have been stable. I don't care so much about the speed.. but I hate when it freezes while I am scrolling the file list in the built-in Explorer.. and this happens with all WM6 roms I've tested.
I guess that at some point it will be stable enough for me to use it.. but as I don't need html-emails.. or sd-card encryption I guess I'll stick to WM5 for a while :/
I've tried:
Custel 2.5
ALL of the Blacks
Elf's 2.1
LVSW
Faria
I am with Custel 2.5 right now and I love it. No sleeps of death here.
I'm running:
SPB Pocket Plus
SPB Weather
SPB Phone Profile
IM+
Today Agenda
MobiReader
Google Maps (Latest Build)
MortgageCALC
After being "awake" for 12 hours, I still have 23.4 MB of memory avail. with normal usage.
I don't do any media on my phone; I don't even have the media net settings loaded to my connections. I use it strictly for business: direct push mail, text message between the contractors, phone calls, scheduling and looking up houses, google search quite a bit and the PIM software.
Perfect ROM for me:
4mb pagepool
HTweak 1.5
Windows Media Player (for ring tones only)
Office 2007
RedEdit
NO Task Manager
Java Manager
Internet Sharing
NO Streaming Media
NO Audio Manager
PocketRAR
The updated file explorer that's floating
NO Live
NO Messenger
Unfortunately I'm not a cook.
Jim
I have tried both the Elf V2.1 and the BlackShadow and both have worked very well for me so far. I have so far only added the following external apps:
1. Ateksoft Webcamera Plus
2. Adobe Flash Lite 2.1
3. Adobe Reader LE 2
I definitely love my phone now even more so than when I first bought it when it came with WM5.
ROM, Radios, Carriers, Phones each has its own benefits, if you put some together they dnt work, you can change one thing it could work.
i can honestly say that i have only had problems with the early blacks, shadow works fine for me, wheras others worship black 2.5.
personally i always use sleuths roms they definately the fastest & most stable (for me anyway!!)
One last tip
Unless you are in the UK dont use radio 1.43 it is designed for the UK and not too good elsewhere
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I've tried:
Custel 2.5
ALL of the Blacks
Elf's 2.1
LVSW
Faria
I am with Custel 2.5 right now and I love it. No sleeps of death here.
I'm running:
SPB Pocket Plus
SPB Weather
SPB Phone Profile
IM+
Today Agenda
MobiReader
Google Maps (Latest Build)
MortgageCALC
After being "awake" for 12 hours, I still have 23.4 MB of memory avail. with normal usage.
I don't do any media on my phone; I don't even have the media net settings loaded to my connections. I use it strictly for business: direct push mail, text message between the contractors, phone calls, scheduling and looking up houses, google search quite a bit and the PIM software.
Perfect ROM for me:
4mb pagepool
HTweak 1.5
Windows Media Player (for ring tones only)
Office 2007
RedEdit
NO Task Manager
Java Manager
Internet Sharing
NO Streaming Media
NO Audio Manager
PocketRAR
The updated file explorer that's floating
NO Live
NO Messenger
Unfortunately I'm not a cook.
Jim
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I think my v3.0 *almost* fits your "perfect rom"

SuperD-Lite! WM6 Optimal Base Rom

Welcome to Dopod Lite (now D-Lite!)
Latest version is SuperD-Lite! (Links at bottom) If you are new to my roms, I suggest you read through this first post and the rest of the thread so you understand where this is coming from.
There are lots of nice roms out there. So, why put out another? Well, everyone's different, and I think there are folks out there who may be looking for this.
Note: For V1.2 and V1.1 changes, see below! I am leaving the links for V1.0 and V1.2 because they work great, and avoids hassle for those who don't want to bother putting in their own Java VM, (V1.1 and 1.2), or want to use this as a base for further cooking. (Won't work in V1.2)
From my own testing and use, the latest stock WM6 Hermes Dopod rom has proven to be the fastest and most stable of the current official WM6 roms. This is supported by the fact that a number of the well known chefs are using it as their base. (Sleuth, Shaps, and some others) I've been running my own version for awhile now, and am very pleased with it: its ability to sleep and play music, its skip-free A2DP, and its speed.
However, it has a moderate amount of bloat, which can be removed to make it better.
I have stripped the following: Transcriber, Windows Live, VOIP, Voice Commander, Autoupdate, Catalog, Error Reporting (though it still shows in Settings), SQM, Ceipui, Calculator, ClearVue pdf reader, Zip, the less-used ring tones, and the standard movie clip. Probably some other things too. I have also compressed some files to gain free storage space.
The result is a fast, stable rom, with a minimum of clutter, which performs all the basic functions very well thank you: Phone, Internet, Java, Office 2007 (without OneNote), GPS, etc. etc. It is ripe for customizing in your own special way. If you want it to become a developer rom, add that stuff. Add custom themes? Go ahead. Add functionality? Ready and waiting. There's plenty of free memory and storage space: 30.06 meg, and 59.51 meg respectively (V1.0, 6mb page pool). I could have added a few meg to program memory by reducing the page pool from 6meg to 4meg, but I chose not to do that in the interest of maximizing stability and functionality.
I have altered the initial customization routine to do only the basics: set hspda, set acoustic parameters, and a few registry settings. It does not access the extended_rom, so you are free to do what you want with that.
You will have to choose your own radio (or leave the one you have). You will likely want a replacement calculator (there are lots of good ones). You may want a voice dial program (take your pick). You will have to add your own carrier settings. (Cabs are around for most of these.) The start up screens you currently have will stay there. This is an OS only flash.
If people have suggestions and links for additional functionality, feel free to post them!
If you have never flashed a rom before, take care to follow the excellent tutorials available before doing it for the first time. Your Hermes device can be ruined otherwise.
I will try to fix bugs, etc. but this rom is best suited for those who can troubleshoot things for themselves. This is a hobby, and I can't guarantee I'll be around everyday to help with issues. However, I really don't expect a lot of problems, and you can look on the Dopod release thread for some help with things as well. (Not to mention the rest of the site!)
See second post for more screen shots (5 pic limit/post), capture screen program NOT included in rom. Memory stats are as above, not as pictured, because I had that program and file explorer loaded and running.
Version 1.0 links, Includes Tao Java 10_1_7_575 built in, 6mb page pool. Time-tested stability and performance.
V1.0 Rapidshare Link
V1.0 Megaupload Link
Version 1.1: Offered with some trepidation, however since Schaps decided to package two alternative Java VM's I thought I'd give people a choice. In this version I have also decreased the page pool to 4mb, which makes me a bit nervous, but seems to be running ok for me. The final memory results are remarkable: Free storage memory is 61.03 mb, and Free program memory is 32.07 mb at cold boot after customizations! See post for further discussion. (Update: I have added a 6mb page pool version for those who have issues with the 4mb version.)
V1.1 4mb PagePool Rapidshare Link
V1.1 6mb PagePool Rapidshare Link
V1.2 Update: In this version I have gone even further, by removing all .rgu files from the V1.1 base. This eliminates about thirty-five file entries in the Windows directory, and frees up about 200K of additional storage memory. For some operations, this should increase rom speed even more than its already "blistering" pace. The downside to this is that it is unsuitable for those who want to use it as a base for their own cooking. (Except for the RomDonald kitchen, which should still work.)
V1.2 4mb Page Pool Rapidshare Link
V1.2 6mb Page Pool Rapidshare Link
SuperD-Lite: Based on V1.2, and incorporating bepe's new technology of melding extended_rom and storage rom, this version boosts available storage memory to 71mb. Be aware that this flash will wipe out your extended_rom partition. If you are coming from another chef's or stock rom, you will have to reload all your apps, etc. If you are upgrading from one of mine, that is still probably safest, but you can check my last post for an optional method.
SuperD-Lite 4mb Page Pool Rapidshare Link
SuperD-Lite 6mb Page Pool Rapidshare Link
SuperD-Lite 6mb Page Pool Sendspace Link
Also:
Direct ftp links (Thanks claymen!)
Have fun, and enjoy!
Links and fixes:
Functionality links:
Cingular 8525 keyboard fix
Cingular WAP settings
Tao Java 10_1_7_575 Cab
Cloudyfa's esmertec Jbed Java Cab
Lots of CABs
Lots more CABs
Lots of freeware
More screenshots of V1.0 version. (again, memory reduced for running programs, and Java included):
Solitaire & Bubble Breaker Question
Hello Edhaas,
Thanks so much for this lite version!!
I was wondering if you have the cabs for Solitaire and Bubble Breaker (when you extracted them I was wondering if you kept them). I have searched and am unable to find them. It seems like they should be readily available but I am unable to find complete versions of their cabs.
Thanks again for this version and your time,
vjgrace
thanks for the base.. i wanted one that i could customize according to my needs
Hi,
Thanks I also wanted a lite rom. Just wanted to ask, since u said it's based on the latest official dopod rom, is it exactly the same with just those apps removed? No special tweaking, interpollating of other devices' roms, other imgfs, etc? (like what the other chefs are doing).Just the official dopod rom itself?
Edhass, care to provide some screen shots?
Edhass, you just did what I was contemplating doing last night!
Kudos for removing that ugly calculator with the buttons I can barely hit with my fingers. I never understood why some chefs left in that calculator while they blinged up the today screen and added nice dialpad skins.
Games
vjgrace said:
Hello Edhaas,
Thanks so much for this lite version!!
I was wondering if you have the cabs for Solitaire and Bubble Breaker (when you extracted them I was wondering if you kept them). I have searched and am unable to find them. It seems like they should be readily available but I am unable to find complete versions of their cabs.
Thanks again for this version and your time,
vjgrace
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Sorry about the games. It was a tough decision. In the end I took them out because I'd already played them to death. The freeware site in the second post has lots of games, including solitaire. There used to be cabs floating around here for the games, but I'm guessing they were pulled for copywrite issues. If I'm in error, it would be great if someone could post links or update. If you want, I could cook up another version with the games, I think they're around 500k together. It may take a few days though. If anyone else wants them, please post your request.
Regards,
Feedback
drgopoos - you're welcome!
joecruz - It's all dopod. I played around with using another Java, and some other stuff, but for me the original works fine, and is much smaller. I changed some registry settings, and the initflashes, and removed stuff, but no mix and match in this version. Thanks for asking. Edit: I did change the version of mxip_notify.vol so that I could remove ceipui (phone home).
alancstan - I'll work on that. Basically its a standard WM6 looking rom. It boots into the Windows Default theme, but I've included the standard Guava Bubbles and Mobile Green themes. The difference is in the speed, stability, and available storage. You can make it look however you like!
rob.ocelot - Yeah, the calculator was always one of the first things I replaced when I ran a new rom. There's lots of better options out there.
Noticed that Remote Desktop is taken out as well. This actually works out better for me since you can install it to memory card -- more savings.
Any reason you left the sample pictures and dogbark.wav? (these are some of the first things to go when I start a new ROM)
Edit: Also no HTC X-button, which I almost always turn off. It never did mesh well with the way I use my PPC (closing/minimizing things to get to the today screen just to open the task manager).
I'm very impressed with how snappy everything seems to be!
rob.ocelot said:
Noticed that Remote Desktop is taken out as well. This actually works out better for me since you can install it to memory card -- more savings.
Any reason you left the sample pictures and dogbark.wav? (these are some of the first things to go when I start a new ROM)
Edit: Also no HTC X-button, which I almost always turn off. It never did mesh well with the way I use my PPC (closing/minimizing things to get to the today screen just to open the task manager).
I'm very impressed with how snappy everything seems to be!
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Thanks for the comments! I chose to leave in the pics because they were really small, and I felt like there was some comfort factor involved for those transitioning from a stock rom. (When opening Pictures and Videos, its nice to have something there so you know its working.) I also sometimes use the dogbark for my alarm. (and its also small)
Actually the version 1.0 of x-button is built-in. This version is small, and its only function is to close an app completely if the x (close) is held down for a few moments. There is no today screen option. (Look in system settings, near the bottom, I think its called taskmgr or something. I've overwritten mine with a later version.) I didn't update it because I know there are folks like you who prefer other task managers, and I didn't remove it because for those who like to close their apps and not hide them its a simple solution.
Best wishes,
Many thanks for the Lite Rom, will try and see if working fine with my x01ht with chinese input.
No problem about the games
edhaas said:
Sorry about the games. It was a tough decision. In the end I took them out because I'd already played them to death. The freeware site in the second post has lots of games, including solitaire. There used to be cabs floating around here for the games, but I'm guessing they were pulled for copywrite issues. If I'm in error, it would be great if someone could post links or update. If you want, I could cook up another version with the games, I think they're around 500k together. It may take a few days though. If anyone else wants them, please post your request.
Regards,
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Edhaas,
Thanks so much for your response, No problem about the games, I know you are probably busy. I just though I'd ask because my wife really loves the bubble breaker game.
Anyway, this lite version is awesome, so much memory it is unbelievable...thanks again for the memory space and the stability!!!
vjgrace
nice base rom, thanks for putting the work in so lazy people like myself dont have to I'll add my own meat and potatos and see how she runs in the next few days......
I like LITE versions, and I've been following this thread. This rom sound good and I might give it a try. thanks
vjgrace said:
Edhaas,
Thanks so much for your response, No problem about the games, I know you are probably busy. I just though I'd ask because my wife really loves the bubble breaker game.
Anyway, this lite version is awesome, so much memory it is unbelievable...thanks again for the memory space and the stability!!!
vjgrace
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I found the following freeware version of bubble breaker:
http://www.freewareppc.com/games/netbubbles.shtml
Wish your wife well for me.
Best wishes,
Thanks for the link to the freeware game
Edhaas,
Thanks for the link, my wife will appreciate that game.
Take care!!
vjgrace
Added screen shots
Well, per request I've added some screenshots to the first and second posts. Please note the screen capture app was added after the flash, and that available memory is larger than shown.
Also, we're around a hundred downloads, and I'm guessing the relative quiet here means everything is working great, and the rom is just boringly reliable and efficient!
Best wishes,
Found this rom very good.
On the subject of a2dp skipping, would brief pausing be called skipping? I have parrot mk6000 hands free carkit. It's bluetooth version is 1.2. I realize that bluetooth version 2.0 is downward compatible, could this have something to do with pausing? or is it a processing bottleneck? or buffersize issue?
Thanks in advance
rgelfand said:
Found this rom very good.
On the subject of a2dp skipping, would brief pausing be called skipping? I have parrot mk6000 hands free carkit. It's bluetooth version is 1.2. I realize that bluetooth version 2.0 is downward compatible, could this have something to do with pausing? or is it a processing bottleneck? or buffersize issue?
Thanks in advance
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A2DP troubleshooting seems to be a bit of an art. I can tell you that my Plantronics P260 stereo headset streams beautifully and skip-free while running internet radio, or any of the usual music players with the current settings. If I add another app to the mix, the music will sometimes pause while the other app is busy, then resume. If you are running TomTom while streaming internet radio, you might get pauses. Or, the 1.2 bandwidth could be an issue also in that case.
I did a mini-search and found a posting by pocc that might be helpful for you: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1406333
Generally though, the current thinking is that usejointstereo should be "1", and all the "bitpool" settings should be deleted for the best sound. See here. Which is the way I set this rom at default. If you do want to tinker with these settings, I suggest using one of the custom tweak apps, or getting a registry editor. Let me know if you need further help.
Regards,

PDF Viewer

Hey everyone, I am running an XDA IIs at the moment, and have alot of pdf's that I would like to read on my one hour bus ride into the city, I have tried the latest adobe reader but it is slow and not very "reading" friendly. Does anyone have any suggestions, I have tried converting the pdf is .doc format but that is a no go as well because I could never find a coverter that actually worked. I did a little search on this forum but no definitive results. Thanks alot
On my device, ClearVue PDF is preinstalled. But there is also a good freeware alternative (PocketXpdf).
Hey there Alegra, thanks for the tip, will give it a try... will also see if I can purchase ClearVue for a try.
i often convert dpf's to Lit to use the ms ebook reader which is free and let one set bookmarks which is importent if i read whole novels
That might be a good idea, I do like the .lit format, will have a look at that too
Did you tried XPDF?
http://www.foolabs.com/xpdf/
Freeware and work's great.
Valeriu
crianp said:
Hey there Alegra, thanks for the tip, will give it a try... will also see if I can purchase ClearVue for a try.
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If it is preinstalled, you don't need to buy it. If not, there are enough freeware alternatives.
You can also look for the thread "iPhone style browser" here in the forum. That's Picsel Browser, also a very good web browser / Office / PDF viewer.
EDIT: XPDF is a PDF viewer for computer (I couldn't find a Windows Mobile version on their page). There is a port for Pocket PC (PocketXpdf) which I already mentioned.

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