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Please test it with your favourite JAVA appz and post here the results.
I've tested Gmail and Opera MINI: not working, everything was working fine with Black 2.0
Can you clarify - Was this working with Black 2.5?
philg2000 said:
Can you clarify - Was this working with Black 2.5?
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Simply I haven't tested black 2.5. In "BIG" 3d I read other two reports on the same issue, without clear definitrion of the name of the applet.
I have only a "lamp" icon and I tested both JAR an JAD directly downloaded, without results. WM6 beta bug? JJ "optimizzation" Bug?
Other users, using the same WM6 build can help may be...
philg2000 said:
Can you clarify - Was this working with Black 2.5?
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Simply I haven't tested black 2.5. In the "BIG" 3d I read other two reports on the same issue, without clear definition of the name of the applet.
I have only a "lamp" icon and I tested both JAR an JAD directly downloaded, without results. WM6 beta bug? JJ "optimizzation" Bug?
Other users, using the same WM6 build can help may be...
I, too, have midlets not working since the launch of Black 3.0 and 3.01. The midlets used to work back in 2.5, 2.0 and many various cooked roms available out there. I speculate that something related to the midlet manager had been modified that led to the malfunctioning of midlets.
Apart from this issue the Black 3.0 had been working wonders for me.
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Simply I haven't tested black 2.5. In the "BIG" 3d I read other two reports on the same issue, without clear definition of the name of the applet.
I have only a "lamp" icon and I tested both JAR an JAD directly downloaded, without results. WM6 beta bug? JJ "optimizzation" Bug?
Other users, using the same WM6 build can help may be...
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Same here, I got the "lamp" icon as well. My midlet is a proprietary one developed by my company and hence wouldn't be the same as yours, segiopi.
Judging from this observation, I'd say perhaps the midlet manager is treating the midlets somewhat differently than before and is giving a runtime error to all of them.
Try "mobile.cmcmarkets.com" and download a midlet from there, compare that to a few other midlet apps, they should give the same "lamp" shaped icon and would "fail to run" as we click on it.
yes me too. gmail midlet was working in black2.5, but failed in 3.0 (havent tried 3.0.1).
gmail, voipbuster, mgmaps & opera mini don't work. ( i guess no midlet will work in black 3.0 until a fix is released)
lamp icon showed in all the midlets & "failed to run" message appear when launching any midlet.
They worked fine in black 2.5.
ok guys
i have been speaking to a number of cookers and it seems that the OEM app "tao intent midlet manager" is not compatible with newer wm6 builds.
hence i have something even better for you (kudos to mUn)
a better midlet manager and support full screen applications too, opera works great on it.
download it from post #2 in my black 3 thread..
this cab will overwrite the links to the midlet manager when u install it.
hi jj, thanks for the fast response. will try it out.
thx a lot, I still using miniOpera instead of full big opera and lot of old games in JAVA.
the new midlet manager works. thanks.
*edit* the behaviour is different from the original midlet manager. although softkeys worked within gmail midlet, but sometimes need to press twice to activate. screen touch no longer working for the softkeys. and performance seems to be slower then intent midlet manager.
JJ,
Thanks for the quick response, I downloaded your new midlet manager, my apps will now install and I will be able to 'launch' them. However, a few secs after I 'launch' the midlets, it would say midlet isn't responding and gives me two options 1) Wait 2) Kill the midlet.
Would you have any other midlet managers available? I've googled around the web and noticed the midlet manager you provided is great when the midlets work; however, its compatibility is a major issue.
GMAIL MIDlet works
new midlet manager is really nice, a bit slow but nicer than intent one. it slowdown my tytn a lot when having it launched, but at least works. thx a lot JJ.
voipbuster runs fine
mgmaps runs fine
opera mini runs fine
gmail doesn't work
"sorry gmail will not work on your phone. your phone doesn't have the appropiate certificate to communicate with the server. try accesing gmail in your mobile browser at http://mail.gmail.com"
Any idea why i can't use gmail?
or how to get the appropiate certificates to be able to run it?
gmail requirements says:
the phone need a class 3 Verisign certificate with serial number 70:BA:E4:1D:109:29:34:B6:38:CA:7B:03:CC:BA:BF. it should come with the phone.
Why i haven't it? and the other black 3.0 users have it?
teorically it can be got at https://www.verisign.com/cgi-bin/support/rootcert/getrootcert.cer but i've tried it but it doesn't yet run.
any idea in how to get a valid class 3 certiificate from verisign that works in my tytn?
TIA
that's strange. gmail midlet works in esmertec midlet manager as you can see in my post earlier in this same thread.
have you tried downloading it again? or delete the old one to test? i had problem in the intent midlet manager, and to get it uninstall i delete it (somewhere hidden within application data directory) directly.
Gmail works fine
Gmail works fine here too ... only gripe is that it doesn't remember the login credentials after a SR ... but that's not a midlet issue I suppose ...
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ok guys
i have been speaking to a number of cookers and it seems that the OEM app "tao intent midlet manager" is not compatible with newer wm6 builds.
hence i have something even better for you (kudos to mUn)
a better midlet manager and support full screen applications too, opera works great on it.
download it from post #2 in my black 3 thread..
this cab will overwrite the links to the midlet manager when u install it.
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JJ,
are you sure? cos it works fine with LVSW 3.30.0.9
fourcc said:
new midlet manager is really nice, a bit slow but nicer than intent one. it slowdown my tytn a lot when having it launched, but at least works. thx a lot JJ.
voipbuster runs fine
mgmaps runs fine
opera mini runs fine
gmail doesn't work
"sorry gmail will not work on your phone. your phone doesn't have the appropiate certificate to communicate with the server. try accesing gmail in your mobile browser at http://mail.gmail.com"
Any idea why i can't use gmail?
or how to get the appropiate certificates to be able to run it?
gmail requirements says:
the phone need a class 3 Verisign certificate with serial number 70:BA:E4:1D:109:29:34:B6:38:CA:7B:03:CC:BA:BF. it should come with the phone.
Why i haven't it? and the other black 3.0 users have it?
teorically it can be got at https://www.verisign.com/cgi-bin/support/rootcert/getrootcert.cer but i've tried it but it doesn't yet run.
any idea in how to get a valid class 3 certiificate from verisign that works in my tytn?
TIA
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I've installed 1.11 , from mobile.google.com, gmail, get faster Gmail and works
yes, i've deleted it, reinstalled it. SR. and it still doesn't work.
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hi guys...noob here.... i did my best to search for this, but the search function leaves much to be desired....even the posts i found didn't give me any straight answers....
so...
i just recently upgraded to jasjamming's wm6 3.0.1 and i dloaded the esmertec java cab from the main thread....i cannot get opera mini to work correctly (keeps asking to kill) and i need to use opera for my job since PIE can't properly display the work-related page i access daily....i then tried two different intent versions and i couldn't install one of them because of permissions and the other one didn't work either for some reason....i've been in a cab/SR/reloading-my-apps haze this entire weekend and everything is a big blur....
can anyone please tell me which one works with jj's wm6 3.0.1?
thank you
I would like to know your point of view concerning the use of a Java midlet manager on WM6.
Jbed seems to have more features and is more recent, but I have various bugs and exceptions with it...
Which one would you prefer for the next WM6 ROM releases?
Would prefer to have it as separate cabs so that people can choose if they want to use either one or at all.
Hey Schap's,
Jbed would do for me. For browsing this is the best Java available at this moment I think.
Thanks for the good work.
Greetzzz
I'm also wondering about this. What are the extra features of the Jbed release? The Tao release is smaller, and seems to run the apps I need (Google Maps, Opera Mini) well.
I'd vote for separate CABs as well but would prefer Jbed.
Tao
I belive TAO. With that I can save settings by making a copy of Opera on my mem card and after reinstallation, copy it back. That is nice.....
I cannot find the folder containing history and links (settings) for JBED... (Does anyone know where it is?)
I just want one that doesn't ask me permission to connect to the internet...
And seperate cabs would be good...
I'd go with a cab file, but I prefer Tao over Jbed.
Jbed! fastest J2ME VM!
JSR179
Hello,
I'm developing an application in j2me that makes use of the JSR179 (Location API).
My code runs fine on Nokia 6110 NAVIGATOR, which is a s60 3rd edition symbian phone and supports the desired API. i suppose that all the s60 3rd edition devices support the location API as long as they have a built-in GPS.
We have the desire to cover the most devices possible, however the target devices are PDA's with WM such as HTC TyTn II which does have GPS, but the code must run in a JVM like JBed. But JBed does not support JSR179.
I think I'm correct so far.
I would like to receive some advice about possible solutions.
I have tried to find a JVM for a WM device that gives support to JSR179 API, and until now I haven't found one. I found however a WM application called GPSPort that is proxy-like program. I believe it interacts with the GPS Intermediate Driver, and all the data read is redirected to a TCP socket.
It is not a very elegant solution to the problem, but it is a solution.
I haven't contacted the developer because I haven't ruled out other options that may exist.
Please reply...
Thanks
Tiago Clemente
whichever gives you the least problems
as for me no matter. if it can run opera mini whithout dumb quastions - it is good for me. do not see any reason to putting it external in cabs - as for me it is'nt bigg deal to find it elswere. personaly I prefere coocking version
I personally prefer jbed as it seems to have less incompatibilities for development. but maybe make it uninstallable that way peoplecan uninstall and reinstall whichever one they like
to ged rid of the connection question in jbed, you must download the signed version of opera. After the first attempt, you can click on always connect, don't ask me
My Dash can only run one java app at a time. Is there an alternative midlet manager that runs one app in the front and suspends others?
My old i930 (WM2003) is very convenient on this regard: I can switch from gmail to operamini without having to close/restart the other.
I have tried all the midlet manager I could find, but none of them work on Dash.
Currently I am using the trial version of IBM's WebSphere Everyplace Micro Environment without any problems.
http://www-306.ibm.com/software/wireless/weme/
First thank you very much for the info.
However, what a waste of time. Had to download a 45MB file, only to find that 4MB is what I need. It is very inconvenient to install and use. Very buggy too. Cannot even suspend and restore a single app, forget about running one and suspending the other(s).
Much worse than the built-in manager.
Am I missing something?
Even my old wm2003 smartphone can run couple java apps at the same time, why the latest WM6 cannot?
Again, thank you for the info.
See http://www.pxdxa.com/read.php?tid=36130 for a complete list of a lot of other Smartphone-compliant JVM's.
I'll publish a BIG roundup of all these JVM's some time.
Interesting, I had tried all the 6, and many more, but none of them worked on my Dash. I thought it was because of WM6, so I flashed it back to WM5, same thing!
Coretek is a mess, all I get is a tiny window that does not show the apps installed.
Esmertrc, Jeodek and Tao are basically the same thing, like the one in Dash.
JBlendFullScreen is different, but the keys are totally messed up.
i never used a midlet with this nice phone...simply cos i dont find anyone on internet... and normal jar\jar file for phone are not good...
what about post here ur favourite midlet? programs...games...and so on?
lets go
Super midlet Manager
In his new rom meschle anounced he will be using esmertec's jbed midlet manager.
i thought i'd get a headstart by installing that on the 1.0 rom. And all i can say is that it is just super! you can use midlets full screen and very fast!
also when you follow the info on the following thread you can even make direct shortcuts to your midlets and remove the annoying popups about going online.
appz i have installed now are Gmail & Opera Mini and both work super!
check out this info: http://pdaphonehome.com/forums/ppc-...ed-includes-info-new-java-midlet-manager.html
Meh, i could only find free midlet sites for old phones, like siemens sl45 etc. Dunno if there are any good midlets for ppc.
kakainis said:
Meh, i could only find free midlet sites for old phones, like siemens sl45 etc. Dunno if there are any good midlets for ppc.
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i know i dont find theme for touchscreen phone...and isnt so nice hehe
anyone have some?
I just installed esmertec's jbed midlet manager.
Indeed much better than the default java midlet manager, although when connecting for the first time to the web with a midlet, you will also still get 2 warnings. The good thing is that this is the only time they will bother you with warnings.
Found some stuff here, havent tried myself tho.
http://rapidshare.com/files/52997428/75_Java_Games_240x320.rar
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Found some stuff here, havent tried myself tho.
http://rapidshare.com/files/52997428/75_Java_Games_240x320.rar
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ill download later...ask for 169 minutes ^^ lol
I thought someone should start a thread Window Mobile phone series because there is very little community discussion about them. They run off the 6.1 pro version. I personally have had a some success modifying my Traveler 127. i installed M2D in landscape mode thanks to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=488017 the only problem with the install with that i had to use Manila2D 1.00.1819.2926 build to get the interface itself to run but other than that, its great. i can't remember where i got that build but i still have the file and can upload if needed. But anyways I think these are great phones and with everyones help I'm sure they can be even better.
I really can't be the only person with one of these phones, can I?
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I really can't be the only person with one of these phones, can I?
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Surely not!
I have a Pharos Traveler 117.. are you like your ttraveler?
Did you have any idea about how to cook a rom for this devices?
Regards,
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Surely not!
I have a Pharos Traveler 117.. are you like your ttraveler?
Did you have any idea about how to cook a rom for this devices?
Regards,
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Well unfortunately i have no idea how to cook ROM's, I'm really hoping by starting this thread that it will catch the eye of someone who can, also the more people that see this thread, the more people that may responed with new ideas, programs and interfaces that they have got to work on their Traveler.
The more we talk the more this thread stays on the first page of the forum and everyone gets to see it.
So thanks for replying, by the way what Programs or Interfaces have you tried on your Traveler 117
Hey buddy,
Actually, I didn't start to handle deeply this traveler.. I am really waiting for some good news about the resources to cook a new rom for it.. because I really don't like this current WM version.
If someone reads this and have access to this information, please post here.
Regards,
you should really the M2D interface i posted. I wasn't at all impressed with SPB Mobile Shell that came with my Traveler 127. So after about two weeks of hunting and trail and error (obviously not every second was dedicated to finding this, i do have to work for a living) I forund M2D interface (HTC Homescreen interface) which acts as a Today Screen Plugin for our WM6.1 pro devices. It's really slick and works with error. I also found an "touch and sweep" type that works with our devices that allows you to scroll like the iphone rather than using the scroll bar itself. I can post this as well if anyone is interested.
Cheers
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you should really the M2D interface i posted. I wasn't at all impressed with SPB Mobile Shell that came with my Traveler 127. So after about two weeks of hunting and trail and error (obviously not every second was dedicated to finding this, i do have to work for a living) I forund M2D interface (HTC Homescreen interface) which acts as a Today Screen Plugin for our WM6.1 pro devices. It's really slick and works with error. I also found an "touch and sweep" type that works with our devices that allows you to scroll like the iphone rather than using the scroll bar itself. I can post this as well if anyone is interested.
Cheers
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id you try to install spb shell 3.0 which comes with pharos 137 and see if you'd like it. i upgraded my pharos 117 spb shell from 2.0 t0 3.0 which works nice... but i have one set back with it. my camera wont startup.. and opera 9.7 beta sometimes act up on it. but i love the shell because it works great in every other aspect, and i do not use my camera so oftten. i'll attach the cap file . you can see if it will work for you.
you the key gen to generate serial and activate the shell.
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id you try to install spb shell 3.0 which comes with pharos 137 and see if you'd like it. i upgraded my pharos 117 spb shell from 2.0 t0 3.0 which works nice... but i have one set back with it. my camera wont startup.. and opera 9.7 beta sometimes act up on it. but i love the shell because it works great in every other aspect, and i do not use my camera so oftten. i'll attach the cap file . you can see if it will work for you.
you the key gen to generate serial and activate the shell.
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SPB mobile shell is alright but I just find there are too many steps involved in simple operations. I have infact tried a registered copy of spb mobile shell 3.0 and still too many steps. that's why I use the M2D interface, fewer steps.
What I would really like is for someone to cook a WM6.5 ROM for these phones.
Cheers
I just bought a Pharos Traveler 137 and have already installed the Topaz Comm Manager onto it. I had to change the following registry key after installing it to:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE > SOFTWARE > HTC > Comm Manager > WLAN > DeviceName=98C5250D-C29A-4985-AE5F-AFE5367E5006}\UFMP1
I'd really like to find out how similar the device is to HTC devices as far as hardware and ROM similarity is concerned. I'm experiencing some skipping during playback of MP3s that wasn't cured by performing a hard reset. It would be nice to fix that.
Cook a rom for Pharos Travler
Anyone get extract the files from official Pharos rom to cook a WM6.5 rom?
There has to be more than three of us with these phones, come guys start talking!
Have had my 137 for just over a week and it seems to be a good phone but the old bugbear of BT voice dialling not working is here. Problem is MS Voice command can be activated by pressing your BT headset but the audio is sent to the device, not the headset. Anyone have any ideas to get it working?
ROM update
Pharos released a new ROM update yesterday. it is the same 20778 build of wm with a Pharos build date date of 6/25/09. not seeing a lot of changes, the double tap effect with single press is still present and it has been reported the blue tooth and voice dial problem still exist. hopefully now that a rom has been released for download someone will start thinking about cooking for the device. first we need HARD SPL!!!
FYI: A mod for Pharos stated in the Pharos Forum that they are NOT curently working on release of 6.5 for any traveler device. i hope this was some sort of mistake.
superman4545 said:
you should really the M2D interface i posted. I wasn't at all impressed with SPB Mobile Shell that came with my Traveler 127. So after about two weeks of hunting and trail and error (obviously not every second was dedicated to finding this, i do have to work for a living) I forund M2D interface (HTC Homescreen interface) which acts as a Today Screen Plugin for our WM6.1 pro devices. It's really slick and works with error. I also found an "touch and sweep" type that works with our devices that allows you to scroll like the iphone rather than using the scroll bar itself. I can post this as well if anyone is interested.
Cheers
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hey superman4545,
I am also looking for different options and I'm interested in your findings. If you could post them would be great. particularly curious of the "touch and sweep" option you mentioned. I myself have been using FTouchSL.
A couple of things I've installed...
1. touchpal keyboard (best word suggestion and correction options I've tried to date landscapemode is not the greatest could be larger)
2. PHMregedit
3. Opera 9.7 beta
4. s2u2 latest build found unlocking works smoother when on rawbuffer instead of direct draw but don't take my word as written in stone.
5. pandora with the "vga fix" (this could still use a lot of work but glad it plays)
6. garmin xt
7. total commander
8. FTouchSL
scrolling
i have attached htc scroll. after install navigate in the registry to HKCU\ControlPanel\Gestures\Touch\Disabled and set Decimal value to 0 and soft reset. now you will have htc kinetic scrolling that will not interfere with other programs such as pointui, mobile shell 3 of TF3D.
deadlye said:
hey superman4545,
I am also looking for different options and I'm interested in your findings. If you could post them would be great. particularly curious of the "touch and sweep" option you mentioned. I myself have been using FTouchSL.
A couple of things I've installed...
1. touchpal keyboard (best word suggestion and correction options I've tried to date landscapemode is not the greatest could be larger)
2. PHMregedit
3. Opera 9.7 beta
4. s2u2 latest build found unlocking works smoother when on rawbuffer instead of direct draw but don't take my word as written in stone.
5. pandora with the "vga fix" (this could still use a lot of work but glad it plays)
6. garmin xt
7. total commander
8. FTouchSL
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Here you go, first download this build of the M2D interface http://rapidshare.com/files/149919545/Manila2D_1.00_1819.2926-xplode.CAB then just follow the instructions on the link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=488017 But do not replace Backup file and do not do the reset defaults, and finally only install the rapidshare build, audio manager, album manage, and M2D config otherwise the interface will not loadand use these files and you should have no problems with the HTC M2D interface.
Enjoy!
jlavoie said:
Pharos released a new ROM update yesterday. it is the same 20778 build of wm with a Pharos build date date of 6/25/09. not seeing a lot of changes, the double tap effect with single press is still present and it has been reported the blue tooth and voice dial problem still exist. hopefully now that a rom has been released for download someone will start thinking about cooking for the device. first we need HARD SPL!!!
FYI: A mod for Pharos stated in the Pharos Forum that they are NOT curently working on release of 6.5 for any traveler device. i hope this was some sort of mistake.
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Just wondering if this ROM update was for the Traveler 137?
Glad to see a thread here on this phone
I have had my Pharos 137 just about 24 hours now. What a *quirky* phone. I'm just starting to customize it a bit. Anyone else seen weird interactions with bluetooth accessories? It seems to have crashed my BT stereo headphones - they won't shut off or interact with anything, am waiting for the battery to die so I can recharge and see. (FWIW they're cheap Best Buy house brand - Insignia)
Pandora will work on this phone. A bit challenging to get it installed, still haven't figured out a graceful way to shut it down. Very cool having 3g speed for Slingplayer Mobile.
superman4545,
yes, the updated rom is for the Pharos Traveler 137.
jlavoie said:
i have attached htc scroll. after install navigate in the registry to HKCU\ControlPanel\Gestures\Touch\Disabled and set Decimal value to 0 and soft reset. now you will have htc kinetic scrolling that will not interfere with other programs such as pointui, mobile shell 3 of TF3D.
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thanks for the cab jlavoie also thanks to you superman...
One quick question for ya jlavoie...or anyone that might know for that matter
the scrolling works great for everything except when reading a message in outlook I can scroll through inbox and other folders but not on messages themselves any ideas? I haven't found any reference to this in particular.
Using Pharos 137 btw...
thanks again!