Jbed or Tao Java midlet manager for next WM6 ROMs? - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development

I would like to know your point of view concerning the use of a Java midlet manager on WM6.
Jbed seems to have more features and is more recent, but I have various bugs and exceptions with it...
Which one would you prefer for the next WM6 ROM releases?

Would prefer to have it as separate cabs so that people can choose if they want to use either one or at all.

Hey Schap's,
Jbed would do for me. For browsing this is the best Java available at this moment I think.
Thanks for the good work.
Greetzzz

I'm also wondering about this. What are the extra features of the Jbed release? The Tao release is smaller, and seems to run the apps I need (Google Maps, Opera Mini) well.

I'd vote for separate CABs as well but would prefer Jbed.

Tao
I belive TAO. With that I can save settings by making a copy of Opera on my mem card and after reinstallation, copy it back. That is nice.....
I cannot find the folder containing history and links (settings) for JBED... (Does anyone know where it is?)

I just want one that doesn't ask me permission to connect to the internet...
And seperate cabs would be good...

I'd go with a cab file, but I prefer Tao over Jbed.

Jbed! fastest J2ME VM!

JSR179
Hello,
I'm developing an application in j2me that makes use of the JSR179 (Location API).
My code runs fine on Nokia 6110 NAVIGATOR, which is a s60 3rd edition symbian phone and supports the desired API. i suppose that all the s60 3rd edition devices support the location API as long as they have a built-in GPS.
We have the desire to cover the most devices possible, however the target devices are PDA's with WM such as HTC TyTn II which does have GPS, but the code must run in a JVM like JBed. But JBed does not support JSR179.
I think I'm correct so far.
I would like to receive some advice about possible solutions.
I have tried to find a JVM for a WM device that gives support to JSR179 API, and until now I haven't found one. I found however a WM application called GPSPort that is proxy-like program. I believe it interacts with the GPS Intermediate Driver, and all the data read is redirected to a TCP socket.
It is not a very elegant solution to the problem, but it is a solution.
I haven't contacted the developer because I haven't ruled out other options that may exist.
Please reply...
Thanks
Tiago Clemente

whichever gives you the least problems

as for me no matter. if it can run opera mini whithout dumb quastions - it is good for me. do not see any reason to putting it external in cabs - as for me it is'nt bigg deal to find it elswere. personaly I prefere coocking version

I personally prefer jbed as it seems to have less incompatibilities for development. but maybe make it uninstallable that way peoplecan uninstall and reinstall whichever one they like

to ged rid of the connection question in jbed, you must download the signed version of opera. After the first attempt, you can click on always connect, don't ask me

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BLACK 3.0 AND 3.01 Java MIDlet not working...

Too much messages in a single topic to gain attention...
Please test it with your favourite JAVA appz and post here the results.
I've tested Gmail and Opera MINI: not working, everything was working fine with Black 2.0
Can you clarify - Was this working with Black 2.5?
philg2000 said:
Can you clarify - Was this working with Black 2.5?
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Simply I haven't tested black 2.5. In "BIG" 3d I read other two reports on the same issue, without clear definitrion of the name of the applet.
I have only a "lamp" icon and I tested both JAR an JAD directly downloaded, without results. WM6 beta bug? JJ "optimizzation" Bug?
Other users, using the same WM6 build can help may be...
philg2000 said:
Can you clarify - Was this working with Black 2.5?
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Simply I haven't tested black 2.5. In the "BIG" 3d I read other two reports on the same issue, without clear definition of the name of the applet.
I have only a "lamp" icon and I tested both JAR an JAD directly downloaded, without results. WM6 beta bug? JJ "optimizzation" Bug?
Other users, using the same WM6 build can help may be...
I, too, have midlets not working since the launch of Black 3.0 and 3.01. The midlets used to work back in 2.5, 2.0 and many various cooked roms available out there. I speculate that something related to the midlet manager had been modified that led to the malfunctioning of midlets.
Apart from this issue the Black 3.0 had been working wonders for me.
sergiopi said:
Simply I haven't tested black 2.5. In the "BIG" 3d I read other two reports on the same issue, without clear definition of the name of the applet.
I have only a "lamp" icon and I tested both JAR an JAD directly downloaded, without results. WM6 beta bug? JJ "optimizzation" Bug?
Other users, using the same WM6 build can help may be...
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Same here, I got the "lamp" icon as well. My midlet is a proprietary one developed by my company and hence wouldn't be the same as yours, segiopi.
Judging from this observation, I'd say perhaps the midlet manager is treating the midlets somewhat differently than before and is giving a runtime error to all of them.
Try "mobile.cmcmarkets.com" and download a midlet from there, compare that to a few other midlet apps, they should give the same "lamp" shaped icon and would "fail to run" as we click on it.
yes me too. gmail midlet was working in black2.5, but failed in 3.0 (havent tried 3.0.1).
gmail, voipbuster, mgmaps & opera mini don't work. ( i guess no midlet will work in black 3.0 until a fix is released)
lamp icon showed in all the midlets & "failed to run" message appear when launching any midlet.
They worked fine in black 2.5.
ok guys
i have been speaking to a number of cookers and it seems that the OEM app "tao intent midlet manager" is not compatible with newer wm6 builds.
hence i have something even better for you (kudos to mUn)
a better midlet manager and support full screen applications too, opera works great on it.
download it from post #2 in my black 3 thread..
this cab will overwrite the links to the midlet manager when u install it.
hi jj, thanks for the fast response. will try it out.
thx a lot, I still using miniOpera instead of full big opera and lot of old games in JAVA.
the new midlet manager works. thanks.
*edit* the behaviour is different from the original midlet manager. although softkeys worked within gmail midlet, but sometimes need to press twice to activate. screen touch no longer working for the softkeys. and performance seems to be slower then intent midlet manager.
JJ,
Thanks for the quick response, I downloaded your new midlet manager, my apps will now install and I will be able to 'launch' them. However, a few secs after I 'launch' the midlets, it would say midlet isn't responding and gives me two options 1) Wait 2) Kill the midlet.
Would you have any other midlet managers available? I've googled around the web and noticed the midlet manager you provided is great when the midlets work; however, its compatibility is a major issue.
GMAIL MIDlet works
new midlet manager is really nice, a bit slow but nicer than intent one. it slowdown my tytn a lot when having it launched, but at least works. thx a lot JJ.
voipbuster runs fine
mgmaps runs fine
opera mini runs fine
gmail doesn't work
"sorry gmail will not work on your phone. your phone doesn't have the appropiate certificate to communicate with the server. try accesing gmail in your mobile browser at http://mail.gmail.com"
Any idea why i can't use gmail?
or how to get the appropiate certificates to be able to run it?
gmail requirements says:
the phone need a class 3 Verisign certificate with serial number 70:BA:E4:1D:109:29:34:B6:38:CA:7B:03:CC:BA:BF. it should come with the phone.
Why i haven't it? and the other black 3.0 users have it?
teorically it can be got at https://www.verisign.com/cgi-bin/support/rootcert/getrootcert.cer but i've tried it but it doesn't yet run.
any idea in how to get a valid class 3 certiificate from verisign that works in my tytn?
TIA
that's strange. gmail midlet works in esmertec midlet manager as you can see in my post earlier in this same thread.
have you tried downloading it again? or delete the old one to test? i had problem in the intent midlet manager, and to get it uninstall i delete it (somewhere hidden within application data directory) directly.
Gmail works fine
Gmail works fine here too ... only gripe is that it doesn't remember the login credentials after a SR ... but that's not a midlet issue I suppose ...
jasjamming said:
ok guys
i have been speaking to a number of cookers and it seems that the OEM app "tao intent midlet manager" is not compatible with newer wm6 builds.
hence i have something even better for you (kudos to mUn)
a better midlet manager and support full screen applications too, opera works great on it.
download it from post #2 in my black 3 thread..
this cab will overwrite the links to the midlet manager when u install it.
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JJ,
are you sure? cos it works fine with LVSW 3.30.0.9
fourcc said:
new midlet manager is really nice, a bit slow but nicer than intent one. it slowdown my tytn a lot when having it launched, but at least works. thx a lot JJ.
voipbuster runs fine
mgmaps runs fine
opera mini runs fine
gmail doesn't work
"sorry gmail will not work on your phone. your phone doesn't have the appropiate certificate to communicate with the server. try accesing gmail in your mobile browser at http://mail.gmail.com"
Any idea why i can't use gmail?
or how to get the appropiate certificates to be able to run it?
gmail requirements says:
the phone need a class 3 Verisign certificate with serial number 70:BA:E4:1D:109:29:34:B6:38:CA:7B:03:CC:BA:BF. it should come with the phone.
Why i haven't it? and the other black 3.0 users have it?
teorically it can be got at https://www.verisign.com/cgi-bin/support/rootcert/getrootcert.cer but i've tried it but it doesn't yet run.
any idea in how to get a valid class 3 certiificate from verisign that works in my tytn?
TIA
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I've installed 1.11 , from mobile.google.com, gmail, get faster Gmail and works
yes, i've deleted it, reinstalled it. SR. and it still doesn't work.

Alternative java midlet manager?

My Dash can only run one java app at a time. Is there an alternative midlet manager that runs one app in the front and suspends others?
My old i930 (WM2003) is very convenient on this regard: I can switch from gmail to operamini without having to close/restart the other.
I have tried all the midlet manager I could find, but none of them work on Dash.
Currently I am using the trial version of IBM's WebSphere Everyplace Micro Environment without any problems.
http://www-306.ibm.com/software/wireless/weme/
First thank you very much for the info.
However, what a waste of time. Had to download a 45MB file, only to find that 4MB is what I need. It is very inconvenient to install and use. Very buggy too. Cannot even suspend and restore a single app, forget about running one and suspending the other(s).
Much worse than the built-in manager.
Am I missing something?
Even my old wm2003 smartphone can run couple java apps at the same time, why the latest WM6 cannot?
Again, thank you for the info.
See http://www.pxdxa.com/read.php?tid=36130 for a complete list of a lot of other Smartphone-compliant JVM's.
I'll publish a BIG roundup of all these JVM's some time.
Interesting, I had tried all the 6, and many more, but none of them worked on my Dash. I thought it was because of WM6, so I flashed it back to WM5, same thing!
Coretek is a mess, all I get is a tiny window that does not show the apps installed.
Esmertrc, Jeodek and Tao are basically the same thing, like the one in Dash.
JBlendFullScreen is different, but the keys are totally messed up.

REVIEW: Best, Brand New Java-based Browser Opera Mini 4 beta 2!

I’ve always loved Opera’s Web browsers. On the desktop with a screen having a higher-than-average resolution (say, at least SXGA+), their free desktop Opera browser is by far the best and most useful browser because it’s the only browser with (nearly) flawless dynamic zoom capabilities. On non-dumbphone (that is, in our case, native Windows Mobile) platforms, their Opera Mobile browser is, despite in some lacking functionality and bugs, currently (as of version 8.65 and end of August, 2007) is the best browser. Finally, as far as Java-capable “dumb” phones are concerned, their Java-based and, what is more, FREE Opera Mini is simply the BEST browser out there.
The Opera folks released the first beta of their brand new, 4 series of Opera Mini this June. I’ve reviewed it in the MS Smartphone Web Browsing Bible. Then, it had some annoying bugs and midlet manager (environments to run Java midlets, including Opera Mini) vendor-specific problems (particularly the crashing / quitting problem on (fortunately, only) one Midlet manager and the “too large fonts” problems on all QVGA handhelds).
Fortunately, these problems / bugs seem to have all been fixed. Read on to find out what has changed in the last 2.5 months!
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
(a VGA screenshot)
(Note that the screenshots were done with the Esmertec Jbed Midlet manager on my HTC Vox / s710 (QVGA Smartphone) and the Tao Intent Midlet manager on the HTC Universal. I’ve also published some other screenshots with some other configurations showing for example Esmertec Jbed running on the latter VGA HTC Universal Pocket PC. Also see the “The Midlet Managers used in the article – how come some of the screenshots are full screen, you may ask” section below for more info on all these questions.)
First, let’s compare the new version to the old. Please read the MS Smartphone Web Browsing Bible (and the “original” Pocket PC Web Browsing Bible linked from it) to get a FULL picture of what Opera Mini is, how it compares to other Windows Mobile browsers etc.
The good
In addition to fixing the font size bug (see below), a new font size, “Extra large”, has been added. With that, the screenshots below (which have been made with the default “Medium” size) are as follows:
(VGA screenshot on the HTC Universal running the latest TAO Intent JVM)
For comparison, with “Small”, the same is as follows:
(VGA screenshot; plain Esmertec JVM QVGA Smartphone screenshot)
There is a brand new submenu, assigned to phonepad button “1”, which offers, in addition to quickly changing between fit to width and full layout modes, reloading and page information, also offers a Link context menu, which allows for opening a given link (you can force it to do this without images) and getting information (that is, the link address; unfortunately, you can’t, say, copy it to the clipboard (screenshot)):
Unfortunately, there’s still no way of parallel loading of more than one link – or, to, say, return to the current page so that you can go on reading it if you initiate the loading of a page from your favorites / bookmarks. These would be more than welcome because, especially with large(r) pages and/or slower and/or not frequently accessed servers, loading times can be pretty high – even in the range of 30-60 seconds.
There are some new hotkeys on handhelds with a dialpad. In addition to the well-known 2/4/6/8 buttons for page scrolling; in full page view, you can use button 5 for quickly zooming in and out (which does the same as the combination of Action and the right softkey, but more conveniently). Furthermore, while the #-prefixed buttons are the same, there is another welcome new hotkey: screen rotation with *# :
This, currently, only rotates between left-handed and portrait view. (In this respect, version 2.04 of the Russian Opera Mini hack (which I don’t link in by purpose – sorry, the app has been declared illegal by the Opera folks) is (still) better: it offers rotating to all the four directions. Not that it’d be that important: on a device with a built-in, slide-out keyboard, it’ll always switch to the right direction when you open/close the keyboard, regardless whether the keyboard opens to the right or the left.)
The biggest bugs have been fixed:
the inability to keep more than 1-2 pages in memory in non-one column mode. An example screenshot of the History list showing this follows:
As can clearly be seen, ALL huge pages were still accessible, requiring no reloading. This is indeed HUGE advantage over beta1!
The font problem has been fixed. The previous beta had too big fonts (even in the “Small” setting) with too much space between the individual rows. The new version is much better in this respect. An example screenshot showing this:
(a screenshot of the same in “Fit to screen” mode. The same on a VGA Pocket PC with Esmertec Jbed using the default Medium font HERE, extra large fonts HERE and Small fonts HERE.)
The bad
There doesn’t seem to be other, new functionality: the menus are the same (screenshot); so is the Settings dialog. In this regard, the above-mentioned Russian hack is still better in some respects (but Opera Mini is indeed catching up and, in many respects, is already far better than the hacked version).
Unfortunately, text using italic is still NOT rendered as italic. This has always been one of the BIGGEST problems with this browser. As has also been pointed out in my related posts (see for example THIS), ALL Windows Mobile-based Midlet managers support italic text – why don’t the Opera folks implement it, then?
Getting, installing
Just point any of your WAP-capable or WAP-enabled (Opera Mobile and IEM are already like this; NetFront must be manually configured to accept WAP pages) Windows Mobile Web browser to http://mini.opera.com/beta/ and click the "Download high memory version" link at the bottom (an IEM screenshot). The installation will automatically start; just make sure you answer Yes / Continue to all questions. After that, just launch the newly-deployed midlet and follow the instructions on the screen.
Compliance
With the current (20070622.2.1) version of Esmertec Jbed (and, therefore, the standard Esmertec JVM coming with most current WM6 devices) I’ve only once encountered a crash: upon having some 10-15 (large) pages open in full page view mode, pressing Save after setting the font size to “Extra large” resulted in Jbed’s getting frozen. This happened to me under TAO Intent too (with one or two pages open); then, just canceling the save operation worked. Then, after re-entering Settings and saving the new configuration again, it already worked flawlessly.
That is, if you encounter hangups after you change the character size, make sure you try to cancel (right softkey) the operation to see whether it helps.
With Tao Intent 11.1.7.1034 (available for download HERE), 11.1.7.1029 (coming with several XDA-Dev cooked ROM’s; I’ve tested it on a Wizard cooked ROM) and 11.1.7.1023 (available for download HERE), I haven’t encountered any crashes so far. That is, (knocking on wood) it seems the Tao Intent crashes have also been eliminated.
The Midlet Managers used in the article – how come some of the screenshots are full screen, you may ask
The QVGA Smartphone screenshots have all been made with the Esmertec Jbed midlet manager; hence the full screen mode on all them.
Don’t mistake the Esmertec Jbed midlet manager for the “plain” Esmertec midlet manager (as of version 20070115.1.1 – the one that comes with the original ROM of the HTC Vox / s710). The latter doesn’t offer full screen capabilities as can be seen in the following screenshot:
(the same screenshot – already shown above – taken with JBed – note that I haven’t used the built-in “full screen” mode of Opera Mini accessible via ** to hide the red bars at the top and bottom). Another reason to install Jbed on top of the Esmertec Midlet manager – in addition to some of its other advantages; for example, much better sound emulation (which can be very important in games). I’ll elaborate on all these questions in my forthcoming Midlet Manager Bible.
The VGA Pocket PC screenshots, on the other hand, have been made using the, in this regard, FAR less recommended TAO Intent midlet manager – hence the unused task- and command bars at the top and the bottom of the screen.
Verdict
This browser is VERY good, particularly when you use it with a decent Midlet manager allowing for real full screen mode. Hope the authors introduce at least support for italic and the ability to, at least, going back to the original page from Favorites while downloading a new page in the background so that you can go on reading the page.
Much as there is still some room for improvement, the bugs of the old, beta1 version seem to be ALL eliminated and even if you didn’t suffer from them (because you used the IBM J9 or the Esmertec JVM and not the Tao Intent one), you’ll certainly welcome the character size and the history list / cache size improvements. If, on the other hand, you’re a Tao Intent user, you will LOVE the stability of the new Opera Mini. (Still, as has already been stated, you’re STRONGLY supposed to upgrade to Jbed – you can just install Jbed on top of your Intent Midlet manager, it’ll work just great.)
All in all, no matter whether you have a Pocket PC or a touch screen-less Smartphone, go get the new Opera Mini – you will LOVE it, I’m absolutely sure!
Has somebody the patched version for the O2 Wap-flat???
I need it .. Pleeeeese
Works great indeed. I have a new cooked rom installed on my Artemis and it's asking me to allow a connection every time. Tried many midlet managers from TAO and none of them give me the security setting where I can change it to 'session'. The Esmertec manager refuses to start. Any tip on this?
this work great with all roms for hermes had a flashing day yesterday and it worked with all thankz for review good for new users
thankz,
jdac21§
I wish it was easier to use this. Having to load the java emulator and run through the questions is kind of annoying.
kiddyl said:
Works great indeed. I have a new cooked rom installed on my Artemis and it's asking me to allow a connection every time. Tried many midlet managers from TAO and none of them give me the security setting where I can change it to 'session'. The Esmertec manager refuses to start. Any tip on this?
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Give a try to Jbed.
BTW, what Tao versions did you try? 11.x? Did you give a try to the somewhat older (10.x) series? The latter has an explicit Security menu.
I've also elaborated on this in my forthcoming Midlet Manager Bible; did you check out the charts? They are already public - see the dedicated thread at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=326768
maevro said:
I wish it was easier to use this. Having to load the java emulator and run through the questions is kind of annoying.
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1. You mean the questions the first time you start it? After that, you'll be only asked once each time you restart the midlet manager.
2. in addition, if you use the Tao Intent manager (or IBM J9), you can create a direct link to the midlet as has also been explained in my forthcoming article - see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=326768
One problem on the HTC TOUCH is that if you enter a long text in a text box, for example replying to this thread, then once you press the OK button the browser closes.
I tried preparing this reply with Mini Beta2 but could not due to problem already mentioned. Finally done with Opera Mobile.
Regards
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1. You mean the questions the first time you start it? After that, you'll be only asked once each time you restart the midlet manager.
2. in addition, if you use the Tao Intent manager (or IBM J9), you can create a direct link to the midlet as has also been explained in my forthcoming article - see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=326768
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I have a direct link on my Ubiquio 503g but it is still annoying and I hope that Opera 9 will be out sooner then later...
kiddyl said:
Works great indeed. I have a new cooked rom installed on my Artemis and it's asking me to allow a connection every time. Tried many midlet managers from TAO and none of them give me the security setting where I can change it to 'session'. The Esmertec manager refuses to start. Any tip on this?
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Simply search for risidoro's midlet manager in the forum. There you have to confirm only once per session.
Works perfectly on my artemis.
maevro said:
I have a direct link on my Ubiquio 503g but it is still annoying and I hope that Opera 9 will be out sooner then later...
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Still no word on Opera Mobile 9's real release date. That is, I wouldn't hold my breath.
Here's an excerpt from my fortcoming Midlet Bible on all these issues:
2.4 TAO Intent
This is the MIDlet manager having come with almost all HTC-manufactured WM5 Pocket PC’s and Smartphones. Now that the developer no longer exists, HTC seems to have switched to Esmertec Jeodek / Jbed instead (and independent MS Smartphone / PPC PE manufacturers like Sharp or Samsung prefer Aplix JBlend instead). However, this still means there’s a HUGE number of installed userbase of this MIDlet manager.
Currently, two major releases of these titles are widely used: the 10.1 series and the latest 11.1 series. Of course, if you have a Pocket PC / Pocket PC phone (Windows Mobile Professional / Classic) and not just a Smartphone (where only 10-series MIDlet managers run), you’ll want to go for the latter as it’s compatible with many more standards and MIDlets than the former one (for example, the 10.1 series was unable to run any of the jBenchmark benchmarks I’ve thrown it at – it just exits when starting them. This may have been a memory issue, in which the 11.1 series is also better). In addition, it also supports MIDlet groups (screenshots: 1 2 3 4), which is also a definite advantage over the 10.1 series.
There are a LOT of different 11-series TAO Intent MIDlet managers out there. At first, it’d be very hard for a beginner to choose. In the following section, I explain what these versions are, how they compare to each other etc.
First, let’s start with the latest version, 11.1.7.1034 (or 1034 for short; from now on, I’ll only use the last four, in our case, relevant version numerals to refer to a given version), which is available HERE for download. It’s meant for any kind of PPC PE phones – but NOT for non-phone devices. If you don’t plan to run applications using the Net (for example, Opera Mini), you can safely install this version (even on a storage card). However, if you DO plan to run Net-related MIDlets, forget it right away – this version uses the wrong approach (prompting each time, not each session) network access-wise. And, again, if you have a non-phone Pocket PC, forget about it too.
What does this Net access problem mean? Upon trying to access the Net, they prompt the user to allow the operation each time there is any kind of communication. For example, if you browse the Web with Opera Mini, you’re presented this dialog each time you click a link. This is, of course, unacceptable.
While the 11-series (as with the older, 10-series) Intent MM does have a dedicated “security” setting dialog (just tap-and-hold the icon of the deployed MIDlet and select “Security”) where you can set authentication to the much more user-friendly “session” (which only prompts the user just once, at the beginning of each session – that is, after starting Opera Mini), the publicly available, installable .1034 version doesn’t let for setting anything in this dialog. As can clearly be seen, only “Oneshot” is available – not only with Net access, but also with other settings – even with Local connectivity. Opposed to this are all the other (former) 11.x versions, where “Session” and, with local access, “Blanket” are also available. If this is a problem, you will want to pick a 11-series version that doesn’t suffer from this bug.
In order to 1, getting rid of the Net authorization bug and 2, find non-phone-capable TAO Intent versions, we’ll need to go back in time a while and switch to version .1023. There, basically, are five versions of this CAB file.
The PPC Phone version HERE
The non-phone PPC version HERE
The “turbo” version for PPC Phone is HERE
The “turbo” version for standard (non-Phone) PPC is HERE
The above links point to modified, enhanced versions of the original TAO Intent manager. These modifications have been done by Russian hackers ZuRiUs and dFine1107 and involve the ability to be installed on a storage card and to be installed on non-HTC devices, including non-phones (for example, the Dell Axim x51v). That is, these do contain major hacks and improvements.
Finally, XDA-Developers hacker risidoro’s version is HERE (only for PPC Phones; it doesn’t run on non-phone devices)
Of these, I recommend the “turbo” versions most, for both PPC and PPC Phone Edition models. While I haven’t really measured remarkable speed increase with the jBenchmark tests, many users have reported generic speedup with at least starting / loading MIDlets. This is because many library files have been decompressed by the creator, meaning no decompression needed in runtime. This may indeed result in some speed increase. (Note that this trick doesn’t work the 10.1-series TAO Intent MM’s; this is why only the new series has a separate “turbo” version.) Note that this also means this version occupies about two times more storage than the non-turbo one; therefore, if you have little built-in storage, consider installing it on a storage card.
Note that, while risidoro’s version is very popular, it’s, in my opinion, not as good as the Russian hacks. The sole reason for this is that it can’t be installed on a storage card. This, particularly if you have little built-in storage or plan to install dozens or hundreds of midlets, can be pretty bad news – don’t forget TAO Intent manager stores MIDlets under a subdirectory in its home directory, which means it’ll dump its deployed MIDlets on your storage card if you install it there, leaving your built-in storage uncluttered. That is, even if you instruct it to be installed on a storage card, it’ll install itself into the main storage (meaning the MIDlets will also be put in there later).
Risidoro’s only major advantage over all the other, listed (Russian) .1023 installers (and, for that matter, the .1034 one) is that it correctly sets file associations, unlike the Russian CAB’s. This means if you click a JAD or a JAR file in the local file system (or on a Web page), it’ll correctly deploy it. With the Russian CAB’s, this isn’t possible (if you install them on a storage card; when installed to the main memory, they’ll require no Registry import), unless you import THIS Registry file I’ve created for your convenience. Note that it assumes your storage card is named “Storage Card”. If it’s not the case (because you use a localized (non-English) device or a Pocket PC with two storage cards), make sure you change the occurrences of “Storage Card” to the name of your card before importing the script.
Note that some cooked ROM’s (for example, XPlore 1.1, mUn's aRTM and mfrazzz’s XDA Mobile 6 Release 2a – but not Release 3, which already switched to the Esmertec MM) contain the .1029 version (see for example THIS for more info on this particular version). It has no session problems either. It’s, currently, not available as an installable CAB file, though - this is why you will want to check out the .1023 (or, if the net access bug isn't a problem, .1034) version(s) instead.
So far, I’ve only discussed Pocket PC compatibility. Unfortunately, as has already been pointed out, the above-linked 11.1 series can’t be used on (touchscreen-less) MS Smartphone (Windows Mobile Standard) models. You will need to get THIS file if you want to install TAO Intent (v10.1.7.561) on your WM5+ Smartphone. Should you need a WM2003 one, get THIS (v10.1.0.14) instead.
EDIT & BREAKING NEWS: Risidoro has patched the .1034 version so that it supports session-based Net authorization. This means you will want to go for .1034 even if you want to run apps using the Net.
See his thread at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1484696 - a worthy read. The direct link to his patched .1034 CAB is at http://www.webalice.it/risidoro/intent/Risidoro_Intent_MIDlet_Manager_11.1.7.1034.cab
He has also published the .1029 CAB in his post.
I have the Emertec Jbed JVM on my Tmobile MDA. Been running Opera mini 4 beta 2 without a hitch. This morning I got up and went to do some surfing and the JVM refused to load. It starts for a second then quits. I have not deleted any files on my PPC. I have no idea why it would just stop working. Any of you run into this problem?
John
UPDATE (09/02/2007): Bad news: the linked Jbed version no longer works. See THIS for more info.
davis4559 said:
I have the Emertec Jbed JVM on my Tmobile MDA. Been running Opera mini 4 beta 2 without a hitch. This morning I got up and went to do some surfing and the JVM refused to load. It starts for a second then quits. I have not deleted any files on my PPC. I have no idea why it would just stop working. Any of you run into this problem?
John
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Yes, it's timed out. There was a time-bomb in it. See my related thread.
that sucks. is the pay version offered by handango the same?
davis4559 said:
that sucks. is the pay version offered by handango the same?
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Dunno as I haven't had the chance to test it. I'll contact them and ask whether they want to release a trial.
Have you seen the Opera Mini MOD versions? It can do some of the things you mention as failings: copy text/images/links to clipboard, open >1 pages in tabs.
http://www.opera-mini.ru/index_e.html
How to get it into english:
http://www.htcwizardweb.net/node/854
Menneisyys said:
Here's an excerpt from my fortcoming Midlet Bible on all these issues:
However, if you DO plan to run Net-related MIDlets, forget it right away – this version uses the wrong approach (prompting each time, not each session) network access-wise. And, again, if you have a non-phone Pocket PC, forget about it too.
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Hi Menneisyys,
i've solved the problem with Intent midlet manager 11.1.7.1034. Now it will ask connect permission on a per-session basis!
I've published the hacked 1034 together with previous 1029 and 1023 HERE.
Please, update your great guide!!!
Bye and thanks for your always-perfect work!

[REPOSITORY] OEM Packages for Use with "BuildOS" by Bepe

Okay guys, I didn't find a thread that has collected these so here goes.
If there is a thread and I missed, please direct me there and I will remove this thread and move it's contents over.
There are only 2 rules in this thread:
1. No WAREZ... Shareware/Freeware or add-ons distributed without cost by the developer only.
2. This is a repository, not a Q & A. Post your packages with clear descriptions and be sure they actually work (as in you have personally used and confirmed proper operation of them).
Note these will work with any Rom Kitchen Setup that uses Bepe's CreateOS Utility. All you need to do is unzip the package into the OEM Folder and it will now be displayed on the Utility.
1-Calc Lite (Freeware) & ActiveSync Remote Display
ActiveSync Remote Display is the PPC Device Side Component that allow you to Remote to your PPC when you're conntected via Active Sync. This is the later version (v2.03)
1-Calc Lite is the Freeware version of OmegaOne's PPC Calculator Program. I prefer this to the OEM Calculator as it has more functions.
Enable HSDPA Icon This changes the [3G] Icon to [H] when there is an active HSDPA Data Session.
Hey kyphur - i've been thinking of the same idea - and perhaps all the proven to work oem's can be uploaded to a oem section of the ftp. I say proven because quite a few oem's have registry keys, files missing etc...
Good to see you active around here again
OrangeUK PreConfig
Made this this morning waiting for Soccer AM to start.
MMS & GPRS work fine for me.
Doesn't include an EXEC command to run a .tsk today screen file like most preconfig OEMs do because I don't know what your you've included in your setup.
If you want to add that, just edit Preconfig.txt to include the line somewhere above 'LOCK:disabled' -
"EXEC:\Windows\cusTSK.exe \Windows\yourtodayscheme.tsk"
(without quotes)
sorry to be off-track for a second, but Kyphur .. is that really you? Welcome back! We have missed you these many months since you started us all off with the first XDA WM 6 ROM on this site! I realize you have been back for a bit (after a little searching) but I just realized it myself this am.
Post by developer or anyone?
Hi Kyphur!!! Welcome back!!!
Great idea!!! I have my own personal repository, but I am not sure if I should be posting packages for which the developer is around and may have evolved/improved/updated them. It would be sort of like stealing their thunder
Please let me know if something is needed and if I have it, I'd be happy to upload if the original devs agree with this.
Phone alarm is a paid for bit of software, but you can download the trial from the web site. I wish to package this (and add my serial). I do not see this as contrary to the rules of the first post, but would like to check.
Have had problems trying to package it, so would appreciate it if anyone else has managed it could give me some tips.... (if someone has done it it will save me ages of comparing registry changes etc)
Here are some new
Here are the new addons I built tonight:
-The well knows network wizard
-A newer version of HTC Audio Manager (Black skin)
-pbar (really great task manager)
-Reg tweak that remove the battery and comm mgr icon located at the bottom of the today screen
-New Windows Live Messenger build 1600
Enjoy
Package ok so far; my kitchen went crazy but those *should* be fine
Keyboard Layout TyTn
also for those people with Vario 2's etc ("English" keyboards)
Keyboard Layout 8525
for Cingular keyboards
Task Manager
slightly amended from the "standard" as it includes shortcuts for Reset, Regedit and Suspend
The Keyboard Layouts were made by Matt_Kr over at the Pandora project, and the Task Manager was amended by me to include the icons from VP3G's ROM. Thanks guys, and ALL credit to original authors.
Confused Stu said:
Keyboard Layout TyTn
also for those people with Vario 2's etc ("English" keyboards)
Keyboard Layout 8525
for Cingular keyboards
Task Manager
slightly amended from the "standard" as it includes shortcuts for Reset, Regedit and Suspend
The Keyboard Layouts were made by Matt_Kr over at the Pandora project, and the Task Manager was amended by me to include the icons from VP3G's ROM. Thanks guys, and ALL credit to original authors.
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Thanks for this thread!
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Including your paid for serial number would make it Warez. If you package the latest version without a serial number then you are okay.
crazyC said:
Phone alarm is a paid for bit of software, but you can download the trial from the web site. I wish to package this (and add my serial). I do not see this as contrary to the rules of the first post, but would like to check.
Have had problems trying to package it, so would appreciate it if anyone else has managed it could give me some tips.... (if someone has done it it will save me ages of comparing registry changes etc)
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Thank you!!!!!!!!
Updated the Orange UK Preconfig
Updated the OEM on Page 1.
where can i get "WordCard Mobile" cardscanner from kaiser?
Windows Live Build 2600
Here is the latest build of MSN Messenger
Thanks to TNT for this one!
Esmertec Jbed Midlet Manager
Here is Esmertec Jbed 20070802.2.2 provided by Cloudyfa. This version is not time-bombed and will run Opera Mini 4 beta2 smoothly in full screen mode (unlike the Intent midlet manger).
Ross
fun_key said:
Here is the latest build of MSN Messenger
Thanks to TNT for this one!
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Is there also a cab file for this one?
settings for dutch providers
Here are the settings for all the dutch providers.
Cheers,
HJ
Thanks!!!
I need this oem package to build my new rom. Thanks

Anyone running Opera Mini?

Hi I was thinking of switching from Omnia to TP2 and use Opera Mini all the time due to its speed. Had anyone tested it on the TP2, wondering if the different screen res makes it differcult to read due to size or should it be better.
I just installed it in JBlend. The legibility is OK, although the default font size is a little small. The main problem is that opening or closing the keyboard requires you to restart JBlend, which is a royal pain in the neck as I often want to switch between landscape and portrait mode when I'm browsing.
This problem seems to exist with all JBlend apps.
Install JBed, works like a champ. Will thoroughly recommend it. Much better than JBlend.
On Jbed what is the font size like?
Are there no problems with keyboard as described with jblend?
I just installed the latest JBed and OperaMini now loads fine. The font is pretty small, but readable (by me, at least).
Does anyone know how to create a direct menu shortcut to a specific JBed application (e.g. OperaMini, GoogleMail, etc)? (i.e. without having to launch Jbed then select the app you want to launch). I'd also like to assign a different icon to each application, so that I can tell them apart purely from the icon.
Sorry for the obvious question: JBed? JBlend?
Are these some sort of Java runtimes that one must install on a WinMo device?
There's no Java ME edition in WinMO 6.1 by default?
I don't get why you wouldn't just use opera mobile which comes with it
Because until Opera Mobile 9.7 with Turbo ships, mini opera is several times faster with proper settings.
For the past 3 years I've used almost nothing but Opera Mini myself, instead of the full fledged browsers available (I have bought Opera Mobile as well and a Webkit browser).
It's just so much faster due to Turbo caching and fits my needs.
I suspect many others are in the same boat.
Good site for Java MIDlet info
vasra said:
Sorry for the obvious question: JBed? JBlend?
Are these some sort of Java runtimes that one must install on a WinMo device?
There's no Java ME edition in WinMO 6.1 by default?
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Some pretty comprehensive info here, regarding WM MIDlets etc.
http://www.smartphonemag.com/cms/blogs/3/2266
http://www.smartphonemag.com/cms/blogs/3/2267
Regards
BO$$
Direct shortcuts to MIDlets
itm said:
I just installed the latest JBed and OperaMini now loads fine. The font is pretty small, but readable (by me, at least).
Does anyone know how to create a direct menu shortcut to a specific JBed application (e.g. OperaMini, GoogleMail, etc)? (i.e. without having to launch Jbed then select the app you want to launch). I'd also like to assign a different icon to each application, so that I can tell them apart purely from the icon.
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Check out this chart
http://www.winmobiletech.com/092007MidletBible/CompatibilityAndMain.html
and scroll down to "Direct, system-level links (shortcuts) to midlets". Should give you the answer/links you need.
Also please read my previous post, if you need more info around Java MIDlets.
Regards
BO$$
Thanks for the link.
So....following the instructions for jbed...I created a text file on the PC containing only the following line:
"\windows\jbed.exe -run s0_"
(with the quotes included). I copied this file to the TP2 and renamed it "OperaMini.lnk". When I run the renamed file it doesn't know how to handle it - I get the "Open with..." dialog.
Can anyone advise what I'm doing wrong??
itm,
I believe what you need to do, is create the shortcut file on your TP2 using a file explorer other than the stock WM one (at least on my Uni, it is not capable of creating shortcuts). I think you can either use the inbuilt function of the file explorer (i.e. paste shortcut or something like that) or create a file and change the file extension to .lnk (as you have done) Once the new shortcut file is created, you need to access the "properties" box of that file and in the box where it says something like "go to" or "link" you will need to paste "\windows\jbed.exe -run s0_" (with the quotes). You then save the change and should hopefully be ready to roll...
Appologies for the vague explanation, but left my Uni at home today, so can't physically go through the process on an actual WM device atm.
If you're still stuck after reading this, PM me and I'll try and walk you through once I'm home.
Regards
BO$$

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