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I would like to extract a software (Htc media hub) and all neccesary files that are needed to create a working cab from this rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=304706 Can any1 help me out with this or guide me how to do it. The cab shall be installed on a Trinity. Forgive me for asking here in the hermes forum but I ask in this forum cos it seems like here are all the people that knows this kind of stuff. Please
somone might end up correcting me on this one. You will need a ROM kitchen to do that. Unfortuantely, ROM kitchens are usually only native to a couple devices, and I am not sure if hermes tools are compatible with your trinity. what you can do is check out the tools in the hermes section of the wiki here. usually tools that are posted in the wiki have links to the original threads where they were posted. good luck!
btw that windows media today plugin is pretty sweet!
Hiya everyone,
I'm a bit of a noobie when it comes to flashing phones - but I'm really wanting to get a stable reliable version of WM6 on my Tytn. I've had the HTC Offical WM6 ROM (that keeps hangin when the phone goes to sleep - have to SR to get the phone working again), I've tried Black Satin (the WiFi/new Com Manager doesn't seem to work very well).
There seems to be tonnes of different ROMs - and I'm wondering is there one that stands out above the rest for reliability?
I've done a search and not found the answer to this - so anyone with any info....?
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My best recommendation is READ the threads on the different roms.
The comments on them will give you a good idea of how the ROMs are running on people's phones.
The Best Rom Ever:
Schap's 3.57a, or any ROM proudly made by Schap's.
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Hiya everyone,
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Seems like a daily occurrance around here......I say LVSW 5-7 or VP3G Ver 2.0 Hyrid or VP3G Ver 3.0 or Schaps or Dopod Official or Att official or Black or CUSTEL....... (Sorry I missed a some cooks names)
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My best recommendation is READ the threads on the different roms.
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Fair enough point I rekon - its just there are so many ROMS - and soooo many thread replies for each ROM - i could be here years reading
cabi.costa said:
The Best Rom Ever:
Schap's 3.57a, or any ROM proudly made by Schap's.
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I'd have to agree with this except for one minor thing.....BB Connect will not work with Schap's Rom.
Anyone willing to Hex Edit it and make it work? I PM'd Schap however I'm assuming he's already flooded with requests.
I guess we can help by suggesting things you may want to look out for:
Only some of these may/may not be important to you...
BBConnect compaitibility
Big Storage, Free RAM & Storage
Smart Dialling
3G Video Dialling
Office Version (They're all pretty much 2007 now, but not all have OneNote)
BT issues - Stereo, DUN vs/and Internet Sharing
Included apps, Standard File Explorer
Included Dialpad style & functions, Kaiser/std ?
Included CommManager & Style
Speed & Stability
MMS/SMS combins (Arcsoft Version)
Included operator settings?
Included Homescreens - HTC Weather etc etc
VOIP functionality
PTT functionality
I'm sure there are loads more...
Lets turn this thread into something useful. Rather than this rom is better than that, etc, lets help the Noobs by adding to this list of things they may want to consider.
my £0.02.
i've tried most, and i'd definitely go for schap's, preferably 3.57
Khristopher said:
I'd have to agree with this except for one minor thing.....BB Connect will not work with Schap's Rom.
Anyone willing to Hex Edit it and make it work? I PM'd Schap however I'm assuming he's already flooded with requests.
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All current ROMs ( and you do want to run the latest, as 99% ROMs released before June have issues ) on this forum are based on the same release. So technically speaking they are all same. The difference is added / removed applications and how well this was done.
Regarding BBC - even if the ROM does not state the compatibility - it is a matter of 4 simple steps to make it compatible. 1) Download the ROM file, unrar it to desktop - you'll get 2 files extracted .exe and .nbh ( RUUWrapper.exe RUU_signed.nbh ) 2) Run winhex ( http://www.x-ways.net/ ) and load the .nbh file, HEX search for the first string in my signature and replace it with the second string. There is going to be 2 occurences you'll have to replace. Save the .nbh file 3) execute the .exe file to flash the .nbh ROM file to your device 4) after the flash use a registry editor to change [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\Versions] "Aku"=".2.3.0"
Of course you have to be careful and all disclaimers apply
If this is over your head - just PM me.
moisha said:
All current ROMs ( and you do want to run the latest, as 99% ROMs released before June have issues ) on this forum are based on the same release. So technically speaking they are all same. The difference is added / removed applications and how well this was done.
Regarding BBC - even if the ROM does not state the compatibility - it is a matter of 4 simple steps to make it compatible. 1) Download the ROM file, unrar it to desktop - you'll get 2 files extracted .exe and .nbh ( RUUWrapper.exe RUU_signed.nbh ) 2) Run winhex ( http://www.x-ways.net/ ) and load the .nbh file, HEX search for the first string in my signature and replace it with the second string. There is going to be 2 occurences you'll have to replace. Save the .nbh file 3) execute the .exe file to flash the .nbh ROM file to your device 4) after the flash use a registry editor to change [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\Versions] "Aku"=".2.3.0"
Of course you have to be careful and all disclaimers apply
If this is over your head - just PM me.
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Definitely not over my head......and THANK YOU for putting it in simple steps.
I've read thread upon thread upon thread here trying to figure out how to do this and there is just so much information, it's almost too much and too confusing at times.
I'll post back whether or not I was successful!
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Definitely not over my head......and THANK YOU for putting it in simple steps.
I've read thread upon thread upon thread here trying to figure out how to do this and there is just so much information, it's almost too much and too confusing at times.
I'll post back whether or not I was successful!
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Hmmm......doesn't seem to work. It looked like it connected the first time after booting up and setting up my Rogers info.....but then it wouldn't connect again.
FOREWORD:
I would like to keep this thread EXPLICITLY for people who want to learn how to MANUALLY cook and the questions surrounding the topic.
If you are a "GOD MODE" and you are more interested in insulting people for trying to learn DONT read this thread
n00bs DO YOUR RESEARCH!! - See links in my Signature and at the bottom of my second post
If you are answering a question PLEASE answer it fully and as simply as possible.
WELCOME TO ROMDonalds!!!!!!!!!
This kitchen is designed for those users, like me, who have been using their devices for a while and want to learn the methodologies behind hand cooking a ROM. By hand cooking I mean manually adding OEM software, adding CAB’s so they don’t have to be installed after flashing, hand editing registry hives and such like.
Don’t get me wrong GUI kitchens are excellent but, to fully understand the processes that go on behind cooking your own ROM,I feel that it should be done manually so you can see and hopefully understand what happens at each stage, so you could say that this is more of an educational kitchen.
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How It Works
There are various stages to cooking a ROM, so when you run “ROMDonalds.exe” you will find a group of files, ordered by number, logically, you start at number 1, and follow the process through to completion.
After running “ROMDonalds.exe” you will find a new folder on your desktop called “ROM Donalds” this is your kitchen.
Inside each of these files are all the various pieces of software you will need to complete that particular stage of the process in addition to this there is an instruction manual that walks you through each step, with background information on what is happening not just the required steps.
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The Kitchen Software
All of the software in this kitchen is available in other kitchens in various forms, some of the software has been slightly edited from original form but not by much, so I do not profess to having produced some revolutionary cooking software as it all currently exists.
The difference is that instead of having a folder full of tools with strange looking names, which would be intimidating and confusing to a new user, everything is sectioned out with instructions.
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Thanks:
Special Thanks to Midget_1990 for helping with the software
Thanks to all those who originally designed the softwares used in this kitchen, namely:
Tadzio - for his tools
bepe - for his tools
the-equinoxe - Splash Screen Tools
dutty - NBH Tool
also thanks to anyone I forgot (sorry about that!)
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Disclaimer
I accept no responsibility for devices getting screwed!!
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Download Links :
In the second post of this thread you will find all the required download links, patches and Instruction Manuals, detailed as follows:
ROMDonalds Kitchen : This is your base kitchen
Animated Startup Screens : A pack of various animated startup screens
Selection Of OEM Apps: A large selection of pre-created OEM packages ready for cooking
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Download Links
Release Notes :
1) If you find any errors with the instructions please detail them in the thread, but also PM me with the error and necessary changes so I can update the "How To Cook.pdf"
2) This has been tested as much as possible on Vista and XP and fully works on both (for me!!)
3) Section in "How To Cook.pdf" on converting CAB to OEM needs refining, if you are new to this ignore the section and just use the OEM apps i have included until i make this section better
4) There is a folder in ROMDonalds called "09-AdvancedTools" . . some may asy why... the answer is that these "Advanced Tools" are the most useful ones i have found in my travels while creating this kitchen, I have not written about each one in the "How To Cook.pdf" but i may in the future. If you need help with these ask in the thread and i will update my first 2 posts accordingly.
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Instructions
1) Download at least the following: Instructions, ROMDonalds Kitchen, Selection Of OEM Apps (Animated Startup Screens are just an extra if you want them!!)
2) Extract "ROMDonalds.rar" then RUN "ROMDonalds.exe"
3) Extract "Selection Of OEM Apps"
4) READ INSTRUCTIONS SLOWLY AND CAREFULLY
5) Enjoy
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Download Links
Instruction Manual:
Sendspace - Last Updated : 29/07/07
Megaupload - Last Updated : 29/07/07
Rapidshare - Last Updated : 29/07/07
ROMDonalds Kitchen :
Whats Been Updated? - Advanced Tools Section Updated, initFlashFile Generator FIXED
Sendspace - Last Updated : 01/08/07
Megaupload - Last Updated : 01/08/07
Rapidshare - Last Updated : 01/08/07
Animated Startup Screens :
Sendspace - Last Updated : 28/07/07
Megaupload - Last Updated : 28/07/07
Rapidshare - Last Updated : 28/07/07
Selection Of OEM Apps :
Sendspace - Last Updated : 28/07/07
Megaupload - Last Updated : 28/07/07
Rapidshare - Last Updated : 28/07/07
Other Useful Links :
Available Radio ROMs : Click Here
2.10.Olipro (HardSPL v7) : Click Here
Hermes Upgrade Guide (mrvanx) : Click Here
Hermes Wiki : Click Here
Google Search Forums : Click Here
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Attached Files
Notepad 2.zip This is a better text editor then notepad!
FOR BATTERY ICONS CHECK THIS THREAD
NEW THEMES PACK
NEW PACKAGE CREATOR:
Instructions
1: run the package creator
2: select open CAB and direct it at your CAB
3: When Cab Analyzer comes up, select extract (the icon 3 to the left of the folder icon with "MSCE" undernearth it) THis will open up the "extract" windows, you will notice that it is already pointing at a folder in your C:\XXXXX (XXXX will be the name of the CAB) you MUST extract it to this directory (it is only a temp and it will be moved to desktop in abit)
4: once extracted close the CAB manager, then the initflashfiles tab will open in the package creator. Select "enable options" then select your CUSTOM shortcuts (the initflashfiles.txt will already have the intended shortcuts in it, these are extra ones if you want any) when you have finished here press apply and done
5: set name for the option.xml and the section you want it to show in, then press complete package. On your desktop now you will find your package!
hope you like it, it is really fast once you get used to it!!
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First to say you thank you. I was waiting for this. Great work Man.
hi - I like the name , i too believe in alot of manual cooking because i feel its the best way to learn. I use most of your tools and also htc rom tool by dark simpson. I'll have a look at your animated startup screens - been looking for those.
well done mate you deserved it. although i busy with my new toy in my sig I will give your kitchen a try to see what i can dish up for myself.
duttythroy said:
well done mate you deserved it. although i busy with my new toy in my sig I will give your kitchen a try to see what i can dish up for myself.
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You will find the kitchen very familiar, it has nothing you wont have used already!! (although you may want to look at the advanced tools folder!!)
i would really appreciate it if you could cook and follow my instructions just to see in there are any obvious mistakes (Other than spelling & grammar!!)
Thanks alot
Great work man... will give it a spin later. Thanks
Nice work mate
Cooking for the masses eh, do you have a "drive through"
benec,
The combined clean battery and 3G icon cab does not work. I get a message saying that i dont have permissions to install that cab.
Trying to overrite the dll file into window also has the same effect
etreby71 said:
benec,
The combined clean battery and 3G icon cab does not work. I get a message saying that i dont have permissions to install that cab.
Trying to overrite the dll file into window also has the same effect
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ok, i hadnt tested that, sorry about that, ill see if it can be fixed!!
The pdf says to run the powertoys program that is in the ROM tools folder, where is the rom tools folder?
sprice82 said:
The pdf says to run the powertoys program that is in the ROM tools folder, where is the rom tools folder?
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appologies: it should read:
XP [FONT="]users run “CmdHerePowertoySetup - XP.exe” this is found in the “ROMDonalds” folder.
Instructions Download Links Updated 29/07/07 [/FONT]
This is great, easy to digest information, great work piecing all this together and writing the pdf.
One thing I must say is I very much do enjoy the use of the visual package selection method, manualley cooking in the cabs is great but being able to check a box next to what I want is always a plus.
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This is great, easy to digest information, great work piecing all this together and writing the pdf.
One thing I must say is I very much do enjoy the use of the visual package selection method, manualley cooking in the cabs is great but being able to check a box next to what I want is always a plus.
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I like GUI cooking too, please dnt think i am belitteling other Kitchen designers!
MY problem's with the GUI cooking method are:
1) YOU DONT LEARN ANYTHING - THE MOST IMPORTANT PART - THE IDEA OF THIS KITCHEN IS TO TEACH PEOPLE WHAT GOES ON WHEN COOKING
2) its lazy, as the install screen of ROMDonalds says "Getting Something Is Good, Doing It Yourself Is Better!!!" (im not saying its not a great idea that people can customise their own ROMs that fast, and have whatever they want included)
3) its hard to modify an already cooked rom (i.e. Black Satin on Pandora)
4) its not guaranteed to work, stupid errors thrown up with no option to fix
5) if you cant change the base ROM you are stuck with it, also what you think is a good base, someone else may say sucks and visa versa
6) there is way more OEM software about than CAB's so if you manually cook, you are not restricted by what is included int he kitchen
I created a kitchen like this so i could learn in the way I WANTED to learn, not with some of the hap-hazard instructions there are available.
I found that through using the instructions i have published i have learned alot about the stages of cooking, so now, when i look at other kitchens, and it tells me to "Dump Rom" or "extract XIP" etc, i know wats going on!!
(also when errors in the GUI kitchens come up, i have a MUCH better understanding of where and why the error has occured!!)
I hope people find it as usefull as i have!
I love this kitchen I have allready learned TONS from it, I am just saying it would be nice to be able to use this kitchen AND be able to use a GUI for adding more packages as well.
But I completly understand your thinking and I definently have allready learned alot!!!
And again I appreciate your taking the time to put this together with a great PDF walkthru.
I am also wondering if there is anyway to delete something from the windows dir after it has been copied elsewhere ? or if you can move files instead of copying them. I am looking to cooking in Opera and it requires a few files in a few diffrent dirs and I would hate to have copies of these files in the windows dir and the dirs they are suppost to be in.
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I love this kitchen I have allready learned TONS from it, I am just saying it would be nice to be able to use this kitchen AND be able to use a GUI for adding more packages as well.
But I completly understand your thinking and I definently have allready learned alot!!!
And again I appreciate your taking the time to put this together with a great PDF walkthru.
I am also wondering if there is anyway to delete something from the windows dir after it has been copied elsewhere ? or if you can move files instead of copying them. I am looking to cooking in Opera and it requires a few files in a few diffrent dirs and I would hate to have copies of these files in the windows dir and the dirs they are suppost to be in.
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you mean to create 1 folder called "Opera" and have all of the dir's and files for Opera inside that folder so you can drop it into the windows dir on a dumped ROM?
this can be done altho im not sure how, i want to include this into my instructions but as i said im not sure on how to go about it, JJ did it with some of the black ROMs, Satin definately.
only thing i can suggest is to dump SATIN and see how JJ did it!!
If you find anything please post it here so i can include it, and ill do the same.
Unable to find default.hv & user.hv in dump folder and a couple other questions
Hello Bennec83,
Thanks for the informative kitchen tools!! I am hoping to create a custom made ROM from these tools.
Question:
I have dumped the recently released Dopod ROM without difficulty and am now at the stage (stage C before C.1) of finding the two files in the dump folder: default.hv and user.hv ...I performed a search and then manually looked for the files without success. I have followed the format for dumping and I may be missing something but these files are not appearing...Any suggestions??
Also, if I wanted to delete say windows auto update or other folders in this ROM without creating a conflict, this dumping section would be the appropriate area, correct?? I guess this is the part where trial and error occurs...correct? I am trying to maximize storage space without conflicts.
Thanks so much for your time,
vjgrace
bennec83
GREAT work m8! Just read your cooking instructions and they are superb. I haven't tried the kitchen yet, but from what I read it is pretty straight forward and very well explained !
Thanks for creating this, I will test in the following days and let you know of my experience
Again, great work and keep us posted of any changes...
Twist in regards to cooking in opera - there is no way to delete the files after they are copied out of the rom. I know it seems wasteful but that is the way it is. Most cooks hence keep the inclusion of this type of app down to a minimum because of storage space. Would recommend compression of opera.exe to use less storage memory - and find the oem package so you can use the rgu and initflashfiles.txt from there to make life easier.
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Hello Bennec83,
Thanks for the informative kitchen tools!! I am hoping to create a custom made ROM from these tools.
Question:
I have dumped the recently released Dopod ROM without difficulty and am now at the stage (stage C before C.1) of finding the two files in the dump folder: default.hv and user.hv ...I performed a search and then manually looked for the files without success. I have followed the format for dumping and I may be missing something but these files are not appearing...Any suggestions??
Also, if I wanted to delete say windows auto update or other folders in this ROM without creating a conflict, this dumping section would be the appropriate area, correct?? I guess this is the part where trial and error occurs...correct? I am trying to maximize storage space without conflicts.
Thanks so much for your time,
vjgrace
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HI,
default.hv and user.hv are a pain in the arse to find, you need to change the folder options so you can "show hidden files and folders" AND uncheck "hide protected operating system files" (see screenshot)
then the next thing i do is order everything by type, then scroll down to "HV File" and you will find them both
with regards to your second question, this is about dumping and cooking a ROM.
a ROM is originally compiled from an operating system, to change features inside the OS you need to dump the ROM differently as this kitchen (at the moment) is only for adding and removing APPs and tweaks.
To do what you want you need to get the "SYS" "OEM" and "XIP" folders from your ROM, swap them into a different kitchen (one that allows you to run something called "BuildOS.exe" )
I will be releasing one here, but the first thing to do before you start messing with the OS of your phone, is to get used to doing the methods in this kitchen.
It is my Birthday today, so i cannot put together a "BuildOS" package and instructions today but I will, soon!!
hope this helps
To the Rom chefs out there (btw you guys are the greatest), how difficult would it be to flash a kaiser rom on to a hermes? Would it be impossible or feasible? The reason I ask is that I am intrested in the software features of the kaiser but it will not be available in the states for a while (and my company may not upgrade for a while). I'm not sure how similar devices handle roms but if I could get a hermes with touchflo, built in improved home and com managers, and an app to recognize business cards... well that would rock. Just an idea I would appreciate any feedback.
Itz not difficult... only question is... does it work???
I would love to see that, but that is a hell of a question "Will it work?"!
Here is a short answer for you... HELL NO but if you like try it and then send me your bricked hermes!
Won't work out of the box, but you can extract whatever you want and cook it into your own ROM, using one of existing Hermes ROMs as a base.
Would it be possible to switch out the touch.dll file with the one from the kaiser to try to get touchflo working on the hermes (I'm comfertable setting up the business card recognizer through a cab)?
ok we need members that have created there own cooked roms to give us reallistic insight on how to pull this of?
Cooking a rom
leoiden said:
ok we need members that have created there own cooked roms to give us reallistic insight on how to pull this of?
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i take no credit for this, i am a noob loke you all, i myself like the att base that i get from vp3G you exrtact the base using romdonalds, you can cook with it to, but i cant understand it, i need to take more time. however i take the base and use it with pandora's build os, i also put added stuff in the pandora with Bennec83's instructions.
any spelling mistakes you find, suck it. i have been up since 4am and i need to get up at 4 again
ROMDonalds Kitchen v1.0 - The Educational Kitchen
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=319970&highlight=romdonalds
vp3G's WM6 v3.0 -- [The official "official" AT&T ROM]
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=317952&highlight=vp3G
Pandora Kitchen - v6.0 Build it YOUR way [updated 08/13/07 @ 14:19]http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=316881&highlight=pandora
Bennec83's cab-oem
1: Download CAB Manager from Rapidshare or Megaupload
2: Unpack the CABManager.exe and run it
3: Drop your CAB into CAB manager
4: Extract all the files in the CAB, to do this click the icon 3left from the XML button (It has SEL in small letters at the top of the button) LEAVE THE CABManager.exe RUNNING AS YOU WILL NEED IT FOR STEP 10
5: Go into the folder that you extracted your CAB to, there will be an *.inf (* = Name of the CAB), delete it as it is not needed
6: There will also be another folder inside the directory where you extracted the CAB, this will probably be called "Windows" or "Program Files"
These files contain all the files that are supposed to be in each directory on your device. i.e. all files in "Program Files" will get installed to the "Program Files" on your device when you install the CAB.
Never-the-less, these directories are not needed as we want all the files in the same folder, so copy the contents of each folder, into the folder where you extracted the CAB, do this for all folders that were extracted from the CAB
7: Go Here To Generate A GUID. Set it to "Version 4:Random" and press "Get" (It should look something like this - 21f768ec-4901-11dc-8314-0800200c9a66 - I will Note it as <GUID> instead of loads of numbers for ease of typing)
8: Go into the folder you extracted your CAB to, with all the files out of their directories, create TWO new text files.
For the FIRST text file: name it with the GUID you just generated in step 7 and change the file extension from "<GUID>.txt" to "<GUID>.dsm", press yes to the "Change File Extension" Warning
For the SECOND text file: give it the SAME GUID as above, but change the extension from "<GUID>.txt" to "<GUID>.rgu", press yes to the "Change File Extension" Warning
9: OPEN the "<GUID>.rgu" and select "SAVE AS.." select "UNICODE" (Default is ANSI), then go to the "Save as Type" Menu and select "All Files" and select your "<GUID>.rgu" and select "Yes" to the "Are you Sure You Want To Replace" warning
10: Go back to CABManager.exe and select the "XML" button, and a new window will pop up. In the new window select the tab "Registry Keys"
This will show you all of the REG Keys related to that CAB (If there are any, sometimes the software doesn’t need any so there will be nothing here!!)
Assuming that there are REG Keys, copy them all into the "<GUID>.rgu" and save it, REMEMBER TO SAVE AS "UNICODE"
Next you MUST make sure that the following is in the "<GUID>.rgu"
A: TOP LINE MUST say "REGEDIT4" (no ""), followed by a blank line, eg to follow:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\HTC\Customize]
"Ver" = "1.0"
this must change to:
REGEDIT4
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\HTC\Customize]
"Ver" = "1.0"
B: Go to the end of the "<GUID>.rgu" and ensure that after the last line of text there is another blank line
AFTER you have edited the "<GUID>.rgu" with the correct things, SAVE IT AS "UNICODE"
11: 1: Download this "option.xml" from Rapidshare or SendSpace
Open the "option.xml" and edit the bits that need editing.
you will see what I mean, as I have created the option.xml to be self explanatory!!!
I hope this helps, if you have any questions PM me
OEM folder of HTC rom here: form pof
Kaiser dump thread
http://rapidshare.com/files/42085076/KAISER_OEM.7z.html
P.S. i would live to see the apps ported but when i try to cook even known stuff i get errors and discuraged so i stop
i am on vp3G's Vir. 3.0 it is what i need until someone puts something i can use up.
thanks to the cooks, and things that make you say huummmm
In case somebody is searching the cab-manager now ;-)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=317358
Jesus, do none of you read anything any more? I don't like "n00b" bashing but when there's so many of you who have obviously read absolutely f*** all, then I'm thinking you're all fair game.
There are already LOTS of threads about ROMs with the Kaiser comm manager, dialler etc built in - there's been god knows how many attempts to get touchflo working, cooking in kaiser's touch.dll, hacking the old one, creating new ones, all about why you can't flash another device's ROM on to a hermes - mulitple threads about every damn thing you've been talking about, some of them not even that far away from the front page and none of you have taken the effort to have a look.
FFS, it's like painting a target on your back and going for a walk on a shooting range...
LOL......nicely said Smiffy
It's kinda like "the blind leading the deaf and stupid"....every time a new device hits the shelves, hoards of wombats want everything it has to offer on their old technology...arrgghhh!!!
Mark.
PS. Do you think I could flash the Kaiser ROM onto my Voyager....
Lordsmiff said:
FFS, it's like painting a target on your back and going for a walk on a shooting range...
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best statement of the year award!
leoiden said:
ok we need members that have created there own cooked roms to give us reallistic insight on how to pull this of?
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Here is some insite! IT cant be done! you can take certain apps and features from the kiaser rom which has been done many many times if you search for kiaser im sure you will find the home plug in the dail pad and the com manger and im sure some other things but here is a little hint you cant port the touchflow many have tried and come close but it just wont work yet! you can not flash another devices rom to the hermes sorry just wont work.
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Jesus, do none of you read anything any more? I don't like "n00b" bashing but when there's so many of you who have obviously read absolutely f*** all, then I'm thinking you're all fair game.
There are already LOTS of threads about ROMs with the Kaiser comm manager, dialler etc built in - there's been god knows how many attempts to get touchflo working, cooking in kaiser's touch.dll, hacking the old one, creating new ones, all about why you can't flash another device's ROM on to a hermes - mulitple threads about every damn thing you've been talking about, some of them not even that far away from the front page and none of you have taken the effort to have a look.
FFS, it's like painting a target on your back and going for a walk on a shooting range...
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But seriously, if I cant flash the Kaiser Rom to my Tytn, can I port it into i-phone. Then I won't have any communication devices to post stupid questions again
I hear what you are saying, I actually run a tweaked out Hermes with HTC home (latest version from shen) dialer (older version I don't like the 3g video dialer) and com manager (10 button kaiser) though I use the offical att rom as my base. I have read the threads EXTENSIVELY both here and on other sites 4windows mobile tri-syndicate etc.(Stuff by JJ, Custel, etc.) I've even played with the Touchflo Alpha cab. My question was if it would be possible to take the whole kaiser rom (as opposed to extracting portions of it and loading them into one of the hermes roms) and load it on to a hermes, mainly because the issue (from what I have read) with touchflo is the touch.dll file and how it functions (wizard, kaiser, and elf similar, heremes is different) and this dead ends most projects. I was thinking that perhaps flashing the whole ROM might get around this (basically try to run a kaiser on a hermes, I was hoping that the devices were similar enough it might work). I guess the answer is no. The other thought I had was that perhaps the new offical release might be easier to work with (and the business card app is pretty sweet). I am somewhat technical but not a developer (though I work for for a large development firm) perhaps I misunderstood how a rom works and flashing the entire thing will not be posible nor will it solve any of the issues the chefs have been running into. It was just an idea.
aaronsmckee said:
I hear what you are saying, I actually run a tweaked out Hermes with HTC home (latest version from shen) dialer (older version I don't like the 3g video dialer) and com manager (10 button kaiser) though I use the offical att rom as my base. I have read the threads EXTENSIVELY both here and on other sites 4windows mobile tri-syndicate etc.(Stuff by JJ, Custel, etc.) I've even played with the Touchflo Alpha cab. My question was if it would be possible to take the whole kaiser rom (as opposed to extracting portions of it and loading them into one of the hermes roms) and load it on to a hermes, mainly because the issue (from what I have read) with touchflo is the touch.dll file and how it functions (wizard, kaiser, and elf similar, heremes is different) and this dead ends most projects. I was thinking that perhaps flashing the whole ROM might get around this (basically try to run a kaiser on a hermes, I was hoping that the devices were similar enough it might work). I guess the answer is no. The other thought I had was that perhaps the new offical release might be easier to work with (and the business card app is pretty sweet). I am somewhat technical but not a developer (though I work for for a large development firm) perhaps I misunderstood how a rom works and flashing the entire thing will not be posible nor will it solve any of the issues the chefs have been running into. It was just an idea.
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Touch.dll on a kaiser wun work on hermes... Datz the problem
If at first you don't succeed then make the target BIGGER!
What was that that LordSmiff said? It was sooo long, I couldn't read the whole thing.
Oh never mind. I forgot, I wouldn't bother reading your answer, either.
Can somebody pleeeeaaaasssseee make a video of alll this stuff on the forum. I can watch TV ok.
Anyway ... I just pre-ordered my Kaiser. Is there any way to flash my Hermes ROM onto it so I don't need to learn anything new?
Puuullllleeeeaaasssse help me!!!
Oh, and my keyboard makes a ? whenever I type a *. Haven't seen anything mentioned about this problem here.
-pvs
pvs said:
Oh, and my keyboard makes a ? whenever I type a *. Haven't seen anything mentioned about this problem here.
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I had this problem. Use HTCustom and go all the way over to the "keyboard" tab and choose the correct one (I have AT&T/Cingular, so I chose that).
mcorrie1121 said:
I had this problem. Use HTCustom and go all the way over to the "keyboard" tab and choose the correct one (I have AT&T/Cingular, so I chose that).
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Ummmm ... I was being a little sarcastic. Yes, I know ... it's just one of the questions that's been posted a few thousand times already ... probably will be again tomorrow.
Thanks for answering, though.
-pvs
Hi guys,
I decided to open a blog which explains how to cook roms for the i780. There are very few chefs, and cooking is a really hard science to learn without help! So, I decided that I take the time and write posts so that everyone could learn the process in a methodical manner and cook roms in the future!
I'd slowly write posts explaining each step of the process in detail, so that we can have more people learning how to cook and make the i780 community more happening
Head over to this URL to check out the first few posts -
http://i780romdev.blogspot.com
Update:
Attached core kitchen tools that you'll need to use! Enjoy!
cheers
San
I never was a fan of this forum, not sure why, maybe because I use a ASUS P527 and there are not proper instructions on how to create a custom ROM, I appreciate your taking the initiative
I think its good fun to try and figure out things on your own
Non-HTC devices do have a very small fan base unfortunately....and ironically, HTC makes the crappiest devices imo (highly crash prone, buggy, lousy drivers, useless qualcomm processor)!
You can apply the same tools and techniques even to cook asus roms....its not all that different
cheers
wooooooow thanks a lot buddy finally we have it also !!!
when will u release part 3? and also can u give the links of programs? like pkgtools_? coz i tried to download it from somewhere else and it had virus
benveq said:
when will u release part 3? and also can u give the links of programs? like pkgtools_? coz i tried to download it from somewhere else and it had virus
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hi m8!
i'll try and upload the set of tools shortly. You can get it in any of the kitchens posted for the i780 here. I'll however consolidate them and add it in this post as an attachment!
Part 3 - very soon
cheers!
You guy thanks for sharing your experience at cook ROMS,I whink I need this for my SmartPhone.
Hey guys, just dropped the next part of the series on the blog. Check out http://i780romdev.blogspot.com
Of course, the same theory, tools and understanding goes to cook for any other device too
cheers
kitchen tools attached in the first post.
enjoy
dreamtheater39 said:
Hey guys, just dropped the next part of the series on the blog. Check out http://i780romdev.blogspot.com
Of course, the same theory, tools and understanding goes to cook for any other device too
cheers
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yeah, now i am reading part 3 and u really teach very well! i think i will cook my own room soon with ur help i wanna ask a question if i dont want ms office and internet explorer in my rom which folders should i delete? i wanna add different office program
benveq said:
yeah, now i am reading part 3 and u really teach very well! i think i will cook my own room soon with ur help i wanna ask a question if i dont want ms office and internet explorer in my rom which folders should i delete? i wanna add different office program
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To remove a package, you can get rid of the corresponding folders in your SYS folder. But its not recommended that you knock off office/ie as they might be referenced within other apps. You can always take it off, build a rom and see if everything works fine
For example, to remove IE, just delete your Browsing, Browsing_DPI_xx and Browsing_Lang_XXXX, BROWSINGCORE, browsingie, browsingie_LANG_XXXX folders. That should get rid of IE for you! Then you need to recreate your bin!
cheers
thanks a lot for kitchen tools and ur explanations! i read ur blog all the time great work!!
The next post is up
cheers
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The next post is up
cheers
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yes i read it, and u r teaching with examples it is great
i have two problems while i am using ervius pkgtools
1. when i open dumo folder it shows
[Missing Manifests]
(Maybe):\ROM\XIP\45116509-e364-4775-9098-c25f0b1fbac2.dsm
(Maybe):\ROM\XIP\d92a4f0a-378a-4482-8fd3-bd127a05e4de.dsm
(Maybe):\ROM\XIP\723fb954-d931-4348-b672-82a188e587b5.dsm
(Maybe):\ROM\XIP\1a22bb67-d4c4-7bb4-c5d2-75cb3a85c45b.dsm
(Maybe):\ROM\XIP\449da4ef-e9c1-5cb4-2ec5-fb9b4c27a865.dsm
are these important dsm files?
2. when i press build packages it gives this error:
not found: select .os file to extract XIP
and i extract xip file using osbntool as xip.bin
any solutions for both of these?
benveq said:
i have two problems while i am using ervius pkgtools
1. when i open dumo folder it shows
[Missing Manifests]
(Maybe):\ROM\XIP\45116509-e364-4775-9098-c25f0b1fbac2.dsm
(Maybe):\ROM\XIP\d92a4f0a-378a-4482-8fd3-bd127a05e4de.dsm
(Maybe):\ROM\XIP\723fb954-d931-4348-b672-82a188e587b5.dsm
(Maybe):\ROM\XIP\1a22bb67-d4c4-7bb4-c5d2-75cb3a85c45b.dsm
(Maybe):\ROM\XIP\449da4ef-e9c1-5cb4-2ec5-fb9b4c27a865.dsm
are these important dsm files?
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This is not important....ignore them, its normal
benveq said:
2. when i press build packages it gives this error:
not found: select .os file to extract XIP
and i extract xip file using osbntool as xip.bin
any solutions for both of these?
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When you start, it asks if you would like to run build xip.bat.....just hit NO for that....
trojan reported in the attachment
Win32/TrojanDownloader.Zlob.NBP
false alarm?
well last night i finished my own wm6.1 build 20270 128dpi pdxib1 according to your guide i wanna tell what i did to complete it ;
1.i exctracted my rom using i780 kitchen and i got dump folder and i also added some extra tools like ervius buildos,osnbtool etc...then i used pkgbuildos to seperate folders into oem and sys
2. i used oem part from krizky82's kitchen and i add some extra packages using ervius package creator 2.7 and add them with oem_blahblah to oem folder.
3. i deleted windows live and msn messenger from sys folder and copied netcf 3.5 and flashlite v3.1 from krizky82 kitchen. i also used his initflash and rgu file coz i had same structure almost(oem totally same and sys programs also)
4.i looked at both efn's kitchen and krizky82 kitchen and i saw that they have this structure oem,sys and rom and in rom there is xip folder. when i looked at inside xip folder i saw that there is only coredll.dll folder and others are dsm rgu and boot files so my next step
5. i used osbn tool to exract xip.bin and after i got that xipkitchen_beta6 and i choosed the same donor and original and after extracting i got original xip files and i ordered in same structure like efn's kitchen
6.then i used pgkbuildos and let the process starti had some dsm duplicate errors and i delete duplicated ones and later i didnt start xip extract bat and flashable bin bat so after process again i had temp/dump folder
7. during buildos there wasnt any error and i was happy about it
8. using inputTXTFileMaker ( thanks to u dreamtheather93) i got input text and after that using these commands;
mgfsfromdump imgfs_raw_data.bin new_imgfs.bin
del imgfs_raw_data.bin
ren new_imgfs.bin imgfs_raw_data.bin
make_imgfs i780.nb0.payload.body -nosplit
merge i780.nb0.payload.header i780.nb0.payload.body i780.nb0.payload
nbmerge -data 2048 -extra 8 i780.nb0 -conservative
and conv3 input.txt > conv3_output.txt
ren i780.nb0.b000ff !!i780_flashable_bin.bin
i got my flashable bin file yupiiiii i controlled the size of flashable bin and it is 86.2 mb and the size of dump folder almost 125 mb i hope it is ok
now i will flash my phone but is there any possibility that my phone can be bricked ?
thanks a lot for ur guide again!!!
note: i already used i780.bin as 12mb page pool size i did it before kitchen using osbn tool
good job m8
You cant really brick your i780 because of this I've done way crazier stuff....like trying out omnia's xip, drivers of omnia on i780....and nothing's given way
However, i'm hoping you've ported your XIP accurately, and i'm unsure how've you've built your SYS folder.
but, go ahead and flash and see if it boots nothing to be paranoid if it doesnt boot/hangs at startup/throws an error and fails etc. etc. If any of this happens, then we could troubleshoot it together
cheers & good luck
Great job!
Nice start San!
Not even some days left from your first successful cooking and you already best gid on it!
Keep on do it. And we wait for new mods for our best touchphone!
I think now anyone is able to break Eagles wings =P