confusion over cid unlocked devices. - P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development

ok, i just want to clarify a couple of things before i go and try an upgrade.
i have o2 uk wm5 xda orbit. from the link below
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Artemis_Versions
ARTE200 O2 UK O2 XDA Orbit UK QWERTY Unlocked OS 5.1.342 (Build 15096.3.0.0) 1.25.206.2 10/04/06 WWE 1.25.206.101 02.67.90 4.1.13.28 Yes
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shows that the ROM/device (whichever) is UNLOCKED.
now is this sim unlocked or CID unlocked or does both mean the same, I have tried a Vodafone sim in my device and it worked ok, I want to upgrade to WM6 but i dont want to screw with my device as i use it daily.
can anyone tell me if i have a CID unlocked phone.
cheers guys.

All O2 Xda Orbits are SIMUNLOCKED, but there are CIDLOCKED!

CID Lock V SIM Lock
AFAIK....
CID Lock - means the device is locked to the ROM either by your carrier, if you have a GSM company provided/branded handset (e.g O2, T-Mobile et.c)
SIM Lock - means the service provider will not let you use the handset with another SIM card i.e if SIM Locked, you may not be able to use another service provider SIM on your handset.
I believe O2 now ship their phones SIM UNLOCKED (which is a great thing), therefore you can insert a T-Mobile, Vodafone, Orange et.c SIM into the handset they provided and it would work, however the handsets are CID Locked, so you cannot flash the ROM to another...unless of course you want to try pof's method.
......my 2 cents

joey jojo, I had the same dilema as you. Only difference is I "bricked" my phone by not planning ahead successfully. The best route I would suggest, from my own painful experience, is to pay the £20 to imei-check and get your Orbit CID unlocked first. That way you can flash away to your hearts content if/when a better ROM comes out.
The mistake I made is I flashed a WM5 HTC ROM using pof's method ( worked like a charm i must add ) to test if it would work. Everything worked OK. Then I went on to flash a WM6 ROM. What I failed to realise is that after the ROM is flashed the CID Lock is back in place and you need to then flash AGAIN with the USPL update before flashing to WM6. I failed to spot this and flashed my Orbit to Brick mode. Thankfully O2 have now repaired it under warranty, I have unlocked it with imei-check and now run BEPE's WM6 ROM with no problems at all. WM6 is SO much fater than WM5.
The choice is yours at the end of the day. Your phone.............hope this helps.

Shand359 said:
joey jojo, I had the same dilema as you. Only difference is I "bricked" my phone by not planning ahead successfully. The best route I would suggest, from my own painful experience, is to pay the £20 to imei-check and get your Orbit CID unlocked first. That way you can flash away to your hearts content if/when a better ROM comes out.
The mistake I made is I flashed a WM5 HTC ROM using pof's method ( worked like a charm i must add ) to test if it would work. Everything worked OK. Then I went on to flash a WM6 ROM. What I failed to realise is that after the ROM is flashed the CID Lock is back in place and you need to then flash AGAIN with the USPL update before flashing to WM6. I failed to spot this and flashed my Orbit to Brick mode. Thankfully O2 have now repaired it under warranty, I have unlocked it with imei-check and now run BEPE's WM6 ROM with no problems at all. WM6 is SO much fater than WM5.
The choice is yours at the end of the day. Your phone.............hope this helps.
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i fail to see how the CID relocked its self... this is unheard of... did you double check the CID unlocking procedure??

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CID Unlock?

I called up t-mobile so I can unlock this dash and use it on cingular and it works fine now. My question is, is it also CID unlocked? I understand that it has to be app unlocked and cid unlocked for me to install the stock HTC rom on it.
Doesnt need to be app unlocked. Needs to be CID unlocked to flash a different ROM, also called super-cid. What yours is now is only sim unlocked, meaning it can work with another operator's sim card.
How would I CID unlock it or even find out if its cid locked?
micrors4racer said:
How would I CID unlock it or even find out if its cid locked?
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The T-Mobile Dash comes CID locked out of the box (as do all carrier branded devices, and almost all unlocked devices). To install the stock HTC ROM, you'll need to CID unlock at a place like http://imei-check.co.uk/ for approximately $38.
FYI- with the recent release of WM 6 by T-Mobile, you probably want the WM 6 ROM over the HTC stock one, but hey- it takes all kinds, right?
Well im just asking because what if htc comes out with their wm6? I don't like the t-mobile branded everything haha. But yes I am enjoying the phone very much with wm6.
micrors4racer said:
Well im just asking because what if htc comes out with their wm6? I don't like the t-mobile branded everything haha. But yes I am enjoying the phone very much with wm6.
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They are, it's probably going to be next month or July.
cjasus730 said:
The T-Mobile Dash comes CID locked out of the box (as do all carrier branded devices, and almost all unlocked devices). To install the stock HTC ROM, you'll need to CID unlock at a place like http://imei-check.co.uk/ for approximately $38.
FYI- with the recent release of WM 6 by T-Mobile, you probably want the WM 6 ROM over the HTC stock one, but hey- it takes all kinds, right?
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Thought I'd mention imei-check don't offer a CID unlock but a work around method to let you flash a different ROM. It involves hex editing both the nbf and the romupdateutility.exe among other things. Once the ROM is flashed when you put your sim in the device is locked (data crashed message about contacting your service provider) by their modified boot loader until you run imei-check's sim unlock utility again, which is why you need to pay the $38 for doing this.

Do Not flash your Artemis with a different carrier/cooked Rom without cid unlocking

Noobs beware!
As a number have been flashing their devices with various roms not from their own carrier or country or cooked roms and bricking their device - I put up this sticky. Your device must be cid unlocked first before you do this. This applies to the coming wm6 roms to - if the rom is not specific to your device - i.e. if you try to flash the upcoming htc 3300 wm6 rom on O2 orbit - you must cid unlock first - with imei check or you will end up with a BRICK!
This does not apply if you are only updating the os http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299154 or radio.
cid = country id i.e. locked to that country/language/vendor
cid unlock for the artemis is here with USPL http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=311403 (thanks pof)
or here http://www.imei-check.com/c3unlock.php (costs though)
Bricked devices
If you have flashed your device and not cid unlocked it, your device maybe salvagable if you can get it into bootloader mode.
Hold down the voice speed dial button and soft reset - you should then enter bootloader mode 'multicolored' screen'
If you do, attach device to pc via usb cable (a small usb will appear bottom left of screen) and flash factory rom. (run rom executable or RUU updater from pc) You do not need to be activesynced to do this.
HTC P3300 WWE factory rom downloadable here http://rapidshare.com/files/19322112/HTC_1.12.405.01_026790_WWE_SHIP.rar
Dopod P800 WWE factory rom downloadable here http://rapidshare.com/files/21058219/ARTE_DOPODAU_1.25.707.02_026990_WWE_SHIP.rar
O2 Orbit WM5 WWE factory rom downloadable here http://rapidshare.com/files/41574866/Arteimg.nbh
O2 Orbit WM6 WWE factory rom downloadable here http://rs314.rapidshare.com/files/102261908/RUU_Artemis_O2_UK_3.4.206.2_4.1.13.50_03.06.90_Ship.exe
Before you flash again with a non-factory rom, your device MUST be cid unlocked.
If you cannot enter bootloader mode your bootloader has been damaged and your device will need to be sent away for repair.
Hi Folks,
Firstly many thanks for everyone's freely given time! Great Forum!
There seems to be a lot of confusion about who and what can be flashed with the German official ROM and then with Bepe's creation.
Can we try to clear some of the ambiguity for us simple folk? Might stop some of the repeated questions littering threads in both related artemis sections.
So, many thanks to anyone who can clarify the situation by providing definitive answers to the following questions!
(1) Can an 02 Orbit from, say, the UK or Holland be flashed with either the German and/or Bepe's ROM, even if it is CID Locked (i.e. same devcie and carrier, different country).
(2) Can a non-Orbit O2 device be flashed with either the German or bepe's ROM, even if it is CID Locked (i.e. different devcie but same carrier).
(3) Is there a fall back Rom available for non-German O2 Orbits should the upgrade fail?
Again, many thanks for your time.
Cheers - Adam.
Hi people, when I tried to upgrade to wm6, I recived a msg telling me "wrong vendor", but when I bought my HTC, it was free, no carrier sold me this device...
Pocha said:
Hi people, when I tried to upgrade to wm6, I recived a msg telling me "wrong vendor", but when I bought my HTC, it was free, no carrier sold me this device...
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Same here...
any help anyone ?
By what i read "wrong vendor" means CID locked right ? but what EXACTLY is CID locked definition ?? i CAN put any sim card inside my HTC P-3300, whether from SFR operator (france) or Proximus (belgium) one... so why do i have this wrong vendor when trying to upgrade to WM6 german rom ?
Take a look to this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299154 I tried it, and now I have wm6 on my HTC P3300, it's true that you can't have upgrades to radio or extrom, but meanwhile I can use wm6
kaemon said:
Same here...
any help anyone ?
By what i read "wrong vendor" means CID locked right ? but what EXACTLY is CID locked definition ?? i CAN put any sim card inside my HTC P-3300, whether from SFR operator (france) or Proximus (belgium) one... so why do i have this wrong vendor when trying to upgrade to WM6 german rom ?
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cid = country id i.e. locked to that country/language/vendor thats why cid needs unlocking before flashing diff any of aboves roms.
imei checker
is it just me or is any one on this forum a bit sceptical of a merchant who so brazenly operates their business under the assumption that all potential customers are all fraudsters/criminal scum? is there no - more customer friendly- merchant who can perform this much valued service?
my first serious post!
xan
My HTC has no vendor since I can use all SIMs from different vendors, now I upgraded from HTC Spanish version to HTC WWE version, so Vendor and Language (plus location?) locks are disabled?
meschle said:
Noobs beware!
As a number have been flashing their devices with various roms not from their own carrier or country or cooked roms and bricking their device - I put up this sticky. Your device must be cid unlocked first before you do this. This applies to the coming wm6 roms to - if the rom is not specific to your device - i.e. if you try to flash the upcoming htc 3300 wm6 rom on O2 orbit - you must cid unlock first - with imei check or you will end up with a BRICK!
This does not apply if you are only updating the os http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299154 or radio.
cid = country id i.e. locked to that country/language/vendor
cid unlock for the artemis is here http://www.imei-check.com/c3unlock.php
Bricked devices
If you have flashed your device and not cid unlocked it, your device maybe salvagable if you can get it into bootloader mode.
Hold down the voice speed dial button and soft reset - you should then enter bootloader mode 'multicolored' screen'
If you do, attach device to pc via usb cable (a small usb will appear bottom left of screen) and flash factory rom. (run rom executable or RUU updater from pc) You do not need to be activesynced to do this.
HTC P3300 WWE factory rom downloadable here http://rapidshare.com/files/19322112/HTC_1.12.405.01_026790_WWE_SHIP.rar
Dopod P800 WWE factory rom downloadable here http://rapidshare.com/files/21058219/ARTE_DOPODAU_1.25.707.02_026990_WWE_SHIP.rar
Before you flash again with a non-factory rom, your device MUST be cid unlocked.
If you cannot enter bootloader mode your bootloader has been damaged and your device will need to be sent away for repair.[/Q
HI I TRY TO FLASH MY HTC P3300 (BRICKED) WITH FACTORY ROMS AND NEGATIVE RESULT THE PROCESS STOP AT 2%.
CAN ANYBODY HELP ?
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Hello,
I would like to Upgrade my O2 XDA Mini S with Windows Mobile 6 (localized / German version). I hardly searched for such a WM6 Upgrade but there seems to be no final version for my device and german language.
I figured out that there is an WM6 OS Upgrade for the XDA Orbit and XDA Trion (coming soon). Might it be possible to flash only an OS-ROM for WM6 extracted from one of these O2 ROM updates? I was able to extract the OS-Image and I already backed up my current ROM using aWizard. aWizard also supports flashing a single OS-ROM only.
Some people in this forum already said I might brick my device. Is it possible or not to flash the OS ROM? Is it risky to give it a try?
Do you know a final working German Upgrade for the XDA Mini S (Qtek 9100)?
Best Regards
Gabriel
Hello
I am in Bootloader mode right now and I started the updater but it says it can't connect. I see the device in Windows and my Artemis says it sees a USB connection (it says "USB" on the bottom of the screen in the white stripe).
What do I have to do for it to start working for a change?
I think I found the problem: First, it would be wise to close mtty . Then it is important to reboot and after entering Bootloader mode to connect USB not while booting. After trying it a dozen times it suddenly worked.
Please, could someone explain how I can unlock the CID with USPL? It starts the batch, when it's done I have a black screen with the Linux penguin and it says loaded. When the RUU tries to connect, though, the device doesn't respond. So I take it the process doesn't actually get finished...
I think this sticky has become useless, there is a reasonably fool-proof way to flash CID locked devices these days
Hi I Try To Flash My Htc P3300 (bricked) With Factory Roms And Negative Result The Process Stop At 2%.
Can Anybody Help ?
Just to inform you guys that i tried the USPL Method 3 times and always got an error message UPDATE ERROR (i think it was error number 270 ??).
Well, that was because after the DOS mode went until 100, and the dialog box for the ROM Update Utility appeared, this dialog box ask to wait for the PDA to be activesynced before presing the "UPDATE", so i was waiting for the PDA to reconnect to activesync (while in a black screen mode) before pressing update . THAT was the mistake. Don't wait for it to RE connect to activesync (strange right ?) and just press the NEXT and UPDATE without waiting anything.
THEN it worked i just upgrade to WM6 without VENDOR ID error anymore thanks to the USPL method
just got a dopod m700 for my wife i know it is a g4 ppc hence will this zip file work on it to get the cid unlocked or do i have to follow a similiar procedure as i had to for my wizard
sorry i got my answer
please ignore my earlier question
fout said:
I think this sticky has become useless, there is a reasonably fool-proof way to flash CID locked devices these days
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Hi there,
any pointer to this fool-proof way?
A foolish GioVAX
****ed up my artemis with this rom by upgrading stucks in loading mode WM6 screen. Can access bootloader but it always tell me upgrading again that i have the wrong rru....
CAN ANYBODY PLEASE UPLODE THE ORIGINAL WM5 ROM in GERMAN by htc for Artemis
(NOT Orbit oder MDAIII)
OR where can i get the original rom to downgrade????
Please help
thanks
Last night I flash my Dopod M700 to WM6 but after reboot it only enter to the boot flash screen showing IPL SPL 1.11 OS 3.7 etc......
I did unlock the CID but the flashing of WM6 seems not ok.
Then I enter to the bootloader mood and flash the WWE WM5.0 of HTC M700 rom. It did turn the M700 back to WM5.0 and then I flash it with WM 6.0 again.
However, I forgot to unlock CID again before flashing. Then now the device stuck in the boot screen with SPL 1.28 OS 3.7 etc......
I still can enter to bootloader mood, but I have tried to heal the device by flashing it with the WWE WM 5.0 rom of HTC M700 again. But it cannot be flashed again!!!! Error message came out that the rom is not for my device!!
Help!!!!!!!!!
Is the wm5 wwe rom the factory rom for your device or are you from another country?

advice needed, NOT a support issue.

I just bought a TyTN (Herm 200) and I am so excited about putting WM6 on it. I have the HK WWE official release just sitting here on my desktop.
But:
HTC is going to make a Europe edition available soon. It might even have Mobile Office 2007 on it from scratch.
I am unsure if I can later update my TyTN to the European version if i put the HK version on now. What kind of problems might I run into?
My device comes with Swedish WM5, I imagine I can update it to WWE, but what about back to swedish later on, if I should want to do that?
If it was you, would you go ahead with the update to HK and if possible switch to European version later?
Yes I would. You can always switch later - you may need to CID unlock later or use a modified RUU, but you WILL be able to change later.
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well, I am a bit hesitant to CID unlock my device since it is brand new and still under warranty. thanks for the heads up.
Will I even be able to put the HK WWE on my device without CID unlocking it?
Actually, you will probably not have to CID unlock the device at all. Oli built a custom RUU that bypasses the CID check without CID unlocking. I was juct throwing that in as a disclaimer since I have not tried it. I am SURE that it works though
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298737&highlight=custom+ruu
I can't stress this enough - put olipro 2.10 on it - this is reversible to the best of my knowledge (see vanx's guide in my sig) and this means that it doesn't need CID unlocking (thr RUU_Wrapper is not the bit that does the CID checking)
In any case, I don't very much whether or not, in the case of a warranty claim, anyone would spot the CID unlock or the SPL update (but still don't take my word for it
I've upgraded someone else's phone for them and I put olipro on which was a good job as it got interupted by his daughter pulling the cable out and it saved it from being a brick...
HTH,
Smiffy.
BTW, the cooked ROMs are so much better than the official dopod ROM - my preference is black satin or sleuth's but they're all better than the official one
OK thanks! Great info!

HTC Diamond, cant flash...

Hey guys,
first off im a newbie & i have trawled thru countless threads etc. I just bought a Telstra branded Diamond which id like to update to the optus rom (im with them). From wat i undastand, a hardspl is needed before attempting to flash a rom. Ive tried olinex signed, developer edition etc successfully. These are meant to enable u to flash any rom, but wen i try to add the optus or other official rom i get the invalid id error...
Wat am i doing wrong??? Thanks in advanced.
Have you unlocked it yet
Search here for the diamond unlocker utility if you haven't yet. I have a cdma Diamond from sprint but this site is mostly gsm so I'm sure you want to get the right unlocker, not sure what would happen or if the unlockers are different for gsm and cdma but they probably are. Hope I helped.
Unlocked?
It came unlocked from factory, it accepted my optus sim & has functionality. Is that wat u meant?
Ydutry4 said:
It came unlocked from factory, it accepted my optus sim & has functionality. Is that wat u meant?
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cid unlock is carrier id unlock basically you want to have your diamond cid unlocked before you flash various carrier roms on it. If it came sim unlocked than cid is probably locked to htc thus constricting you to official htc rom updates only.
cid unlock your diamond and than proceed with flashing other roms.
After more experimenting it worked! Found hardspl unsigned, flashed the olinex 1.93 version followed by flashing optus rom HA-ZAAAAAAAH
What optus rom?
Do you have a link to the optus rom that you used? Was it this one (generic AU)?
RUU_Diamond_hTC_Asia_AUS_1.96.710.3_Radio_Signed_Diamond_52.29.25.12_1.00.25.05_Ship.exe
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Upgrading Rom of already upgraded Uni... Unlock again?

So, I got my hand on an Uni G4 (xda exec) that has 6.5 on it... I want to downgrade to the Tmo UK WM5 rom.
How do I know if I have to unlock the sim and cid (again)?
Under what circumstances would the sim and/or cid be re-locked (after it had been unlocked)?
And how do I know if I should do a DOC format? I see that there are a few ROMs that once installed require a DOC format if you want to change the ROM again.
And I did search the forums first, and could find the answers I need. I'm still checking up on the ROM that is currently installed on my Uni - 5.2.23016 (5.3.0 Luca16)
TIA!
Once it has flashed the 1st cooked ROM it has to be full unlocked, no need to do it again so you can downgrade without any problem os locking sim.
Have a look here to get one great wm5 ROM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=549207
Hope it helped,
Awsome!
Thanks!

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