Moving PIM from WM5 to WM6? - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development

This should be easy to search for.. and yes I did find the PIM Backup thread.. and yes I wish I had used it...
Note: I do NOT have Outlook sync as an option.. so I need/needed a way to do this without going via a PC.
So I tried 2 methods:
a) Database backup with Sprite Backup
b) copied pim.vol to my Storage Card
What I'm finding post-WM6-upgrade is that I can read my PIM data.. but I cannot create new PIM data (appts, contacts).
Do I have any practical way to recover (short of flashing back to WM5 and using PIM Backup?)
Thanks,
Mike

Confused.
AFAI understand, you seems to have backed up with Sprite Backup and copied the pim.vol. And you have flashed into WM6, now unable to get these info back.
If so, you may want to try the WM5 emulator (from M$) for the PC.

Try PIM-Backup??
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299705
works a treat.

mrvanx said:
Try PIM-Backup??
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299705
works a treat.
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Aye, I found PIMBackup... but does it do me any good in my current state... or do I need to go back to WM5 1st.. PIMBackup, then back to WM6?
Thanks!
Mike

Have you already flashed WM6 then i take it?

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Have you already flashed WM6 then i take it?
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Yep. Held out all this time, watching the ROMs and finally thought it was worth the plunge.
Mike

The best thing you could do is start using exchange. Your PIM data is right there, all you do is sync once youve flashed and your contacts/calendar etc... is back on the device.
DeniaL's service is good, a $10 donation isnt much to ask for a good service especially with exchange 2007 (so you get HTML mail in WM6). Youl get push email aswell, if somebody emails you at (for example) [email protected] it instantly arrives at your device.

I do not want my personal PIM mixed into my work environment (which is my only PC). So I am mostly self-contained on the Hermes. Perhaps DeniaL's service would help me work around that... its a little beyond my knowledge scope (unix guy)
I use my work PC to install apps, and move things on/off the storage card. Not as convenient as it could be, but hopefully makes a little (if wacky) sense.
For the WM5 downgrade, I have the link to the "WM5 Downgrade guide v2".. could I cheat the steps by using ROM #3 from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=302092 (since I was Cingular before, tho a slightly older version)?
Thanks,
Mike

I've been playing with PIMBackup... what I've found so far...
I can rename the WM6 compatible pim.vol to temp name and copy in my old pim.vol
PIMBackup will extract and save off the Appts and Tasks. I can see them with Verbose. It does not seem to be able to read the Contacts.
The WM6 contacts program also barfs.
PI2007 is able to read the contacts, but doesn't seem to have any way to backup/export.
Back to some more fiddling...
Mike

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WM6 can't input new appointment

Guys... maybe someone can help me..
After flashing my O2 Exec with WM6 (been try Midget,Vijay,Indra) all WM6 won't input new appointment....
Thanks before.
it works for me
did you have an error message ?
You have to make syncronisation trogh AS 4.5. You probably just make a copy of pim file. Pim file have diferent structure now.
I use push mail and it works fine
u know what? Same for me... then hard reset calendar ok.. BUT...when I install Tweaks and hacks... same thing wrong again!?!?!?
damn it Chloe!
tweaks and hacks does nothing to the calendar, also i use it with no problems
joder... I just unistall it reset and I have the same problem:
"The database for this application has been deleted or is corrupted. Restore the database from a backup"
Can Input Appointment If Not Restore PIM was backup on WM5
Guys....
Last night I'm doin hard reset on my WM6 Exec.... first thing I try is make New Apointment, it work....But when I restore PIM (backup on WM5 using Sunnysoft Backup Manager), then I try again, I got same message error....
So I think the problem is structure PIM on WM5 not compatible with WM6.... now I want to try restore with sycn way....
Hope it work
Thanks
L.H.
carbunaru said:
You have to make syncronisation trogh AS 4.5. You probably just make a copy of pim file. Pim file have diferent structure now.
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You're right....
Thanks
L.H

Retrieving contacts from a CORRUPTED PIM.VOL

Hi there, before upgrading to WM6, i wanted to sync my universal with outlook to have all the contacts and calendar entries backed up. Active sync showedsuccessful sync, but contacts didnt sync at all. after trying few more times, i thought i leave it, just copy PIM.VOL to sd, as i usualy do, upgrade, and then replace the clea PIM with the backed up one.
the problem started, when my backed up PIM seem to shrink in size as soon as i restart the device. contacts dont open a all. i tried the same pim vol on another universal, and the same problem appears. i simply cant get my contacts back.
what do you think it can be, coz to me it looks like a corrupted PIM.
i was trying to find some kind of PIM editor to get my contacts back, but wth no luck.
is there anything i can do, has any one know the way?
Not sure what your problem is.
But AKU3+ onward to Crossbow PIM.VOL is different from AKU2 PIM.VOL in the data format.
CWKJ said:
Not sure what your problem is.
But AKU3+ onward to Crossbow PIM.VOL is different from AKU2 PIM.VOL in the data format.
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i think the rom he had installed was the original O2 one, so you recon flashing back to aku2 rom will let me see contacts again?

Help with contacts softkey on Black 2.0

Made a stupid mistake and deleted the contacts shortcut in my startup folder. I then loaded softkeys! I now have no way of going back to my contacts on the right softkey. I have looked throughout my windows folder for the pcontacts and I can't find it. I love Black 2.0 and won't go back! Don't want to have to reset for this stupid mistake. Can someone help or post their contacts shortcut here. Thanks!
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Made a stupid mistake and deleted the contacts shortcut in my startup folder. I then loaded softkeys! I now have no way of going back to my contacts on the right softkey. I have looked throughout my windows folder for the pcontacts and I can't find it. I love Black 2.0 and won't go back! Don't want to have to reset for this stupid mistake. Can someone help or post their contacts shortcut here. Thanks!
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You can create the link yourself with...
:MSCONTACTS?outres.dll,-10000
and then put the shortcut in any place.
Thanks for the reply....I am still in the dark about your answer....do you mean to place this in the registry or somewhere else. I hate to sound like such a noob.
I got it....thanks for the help! You guys are awesome
Contacts won't open!!
I recently upgraded to Black pro 2.0. I love it! However, I used spb backup 1.5.5 to backup my pim info (mainly contacts). Now, when I restore my pim I can no longer open contacts. I tried using the softkey, tried openning it using the phone utility. I tried going back to 2.11 ROM... but the problem persists. I even tried to use other backup programs but still come across the same problem. Other programs that use the contacts database (like Vbirthday) can't access the contacts either. I have Agendus installed and when I go to the contacts in the Agendus menu all my contacts are there, so I think this is a problem in the shell or maybe a registry fix would do the trick... I don't know. I appreciate any help.
Icarps said:
I recently upgraded to Black pro 2.0. I love it! However, I used spb backup 1.5.5 to backup my pim info (mainly contacts). Now, when I restore my pim I can no longer open contacts. I tried using the softkey, tried openning it using the phone utility. I tried going back to 2.11 ROM... but the problem persists. I even tried to use other backup programs but still come across the same problem. Other programs that use the contacts database (like Vbirthday) can't access the contacts either. I have Agendus installed and when I go to the contacts in the Agendus menu all my contacts are there, so I think this is a problem in the shell or maybe a registry fix would do the trick... I don't know. I appreciate any help.
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Id strongly advise NOT to use spb backup....there are such differences in the new Black ROM that restoring a backup can cause allsorts of problems.
The BEST thing you can do is to get yourself signed up for an exchange account somewhere like mail2web....you get push email but more importantly for you the contacts are synced......so even after a hard reset all it takes is a quick sync and your contacts/calendar/tasks and emails are back in the device.
mrvanx said:
Id strongly advise NOT to use spb backup....there are such differences in the new Black ROM that restoring a backup can cause allsorts of problems.
The BEST thing you can do is to get yourself signed up for an exchange account somewhere like mail2web....you get push email but more importantly for you the contacts are synced......so even after a hard reset all it takes is a quick sync and your contacts/calendar/tasks and emails are back in the device.
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Thanks for the reply! But I was actually hoping for a way to restore my contacts from my storage card, since I have over 300 contacts it would take me too long to type it all back again. There must be a way to fix this problem. Well... I'll keep trying to find an answer; thanks anyway.
Icarps said:
Thanks for the reply! But I was actually hoping for a way to restore my contacts from my storage card, since I have over 300 contacts it would take me too long to type it all back again. There must be a way to fix this problem. Well... I'll keep trying to find an answer; thanks anyway.
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Take the plunge dude once your info is in exchange it is automatically updated if you add or remove a contact etc.....SUCH A SERIOUS TIMESAVER.
and doesnt rely on SD cards or anything else.
Icarps said:
I recently upgraded to Black pro 2.0. I love it! However, I used spb backup 1.5.5 to backup my pim info (mainly contacts). Now, when I restore my pim I can no longer open contacts. I tried using the softkey, tried openning it using the phone utility. I tried going back to 2.11 ROM... but the problem persists. I even tried to use other backup programs but still come across the same problem. Other programs that use the contacts database (like Vbirthday) can't access the contacts either. I have Agendus installed and when I go to the contacts in the Agendus menu all my contacts are there, so I think this is a problem in the shell or maybe a registry fix would do the trick... I don't know. I appreciate any help.
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Can you export with Agendus and then HR and import?
I'm saying cause seems that restore with SPB Backup dosn't work with contacts in the way it must to do. I try to use in the past, and finally take all my critical information to an exchange server activesync.
jcespi2005 said:
Can you export with Agendus and then HR and import?
I'm saying cause seems that restore with SPB Backup dosn't work with contacts in the way it must to do. I try to use in the past, and finally take all my critical information to an exchange server activesync.
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Before I upgraded to Black Pro 2.0, SPB backup would work fine even with contacts. I never had any problems with WM5 1.35 ROM. What do you mean by HR? (sorry if this is a stupid question).
Icarps said:
Before I upgraded to Black Pro 2.0, SPB backup would work fine even with contacts. I never had any problems with WM5 1.35 ROM. What do you mean by HR? (sorry if this is a stupid question).
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HR = Hard Reset
when you say you never had any problem, means that you tested to restore the same backaup before, and this same backup now in Black 2.0 dosn't work?
Or you are trying to restore diferents backups?
jcespi2005 said:
HR = Hard Reset
when you say you never had any problem, means that you tested to restore the same backaup before, and this same backup now in Black 2.0 dosn't work?
Or you are trying to restore diferents backups?
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Same backup. Won't work in Black 2.0. I did what you suggested (exported a contact from Agendus to my storage card in csv format), HR but can't (don't kknow how to) import it neither with contact nor with Agendus.
Maybe I should just downgrade to WM5 1.35 again. Could anyone tell me how? I tried running the upgrading utility for 1.35 ROM but it doesn't recognize the usb connection. I thought it might be a problem with the SPL 1.40 Olipro and changed to 1.10 Oli... still the same problem. I tried changing it to 1.10 MGF but mtty won't recognize the usb connection either. It's not a problem with my usb port because everything else works fine, including the phone syncronization. Any help is appreciated.
Icarps said:
Maybe I should just downgrade to WM5 1.35 again. Could anyone tell me how? I tried running the upgrading utility for 1.35 ROM but it doesn't recognize the usb connection. I thought it might be a problem with the SPL 1.40 Olipro and changed to 1.10 Oli... still the same problem. I tried changing it to 1.10 MGF but mtty won't recognize the usb connection either. It's not a problem with my usb port because everything else works fine, including the phone syncronization. Any help is appreciated.
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(search is your friend sir )
How to downgrade to WM5
mrvanx said:
(search is your friend sir )
How to downgrade to WM5
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Thanks mrvanx! I'll try it later. But first, one last attempt to solve the problem... maybe the culprit is not Black 2.0 but radio 1.38.
mrvanx said:
The BEST thing you can do is to get yourself signed up for an exchange account somewhere like mail2web....you get push email but more importantly for you the contacts are synced......so even after a hard reset all it takes is a quick sync and your contacts/calendar/tasks and emails are back in the device.
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I was wondering why people advise an exchange account instead of simply syncing with outlook. I use outlook to sync contacts and appointments and it works well as a backup... After my Black VI upgrade simply connect and sync. So am i missing something ?
Icarps said:
Same backup. Won't work in Black 2.0. I did what you suggested (exported a contact from Agendus to my storage card in csv format), HR but can't (don't kknow how to) import it neither with contact nor with Agendus.
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I think you can Import your exported CSV into Outlook, and then sync with TyTN trought ActiveSync.
Take a look at this
http://www.filesaveas.com/pdaconvert.html
perhaphs helps you.
TheLuggs said:
I was wondering why people advise an exchange account instead of simply syncing with outlook. I use outlook to sync contacts and appointments and it works well as a backup... After my Black VI upgrade simply connect and sync. So am i missing something ?
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There are same advantages doing with exchange (like i see):
First of all, you can sync in any place, trought GPRS or 3G, so you dosn't need be connected to your PC to restore your information.
Second, the servers normally has their backup policy, so your information is more secure.
Thirt, every time you change one elemment in contacts or calendar, this change sync on the fly to server, so your information is the same in server and in ppc everytime.
After three years of use, this is the most secure method i find to take this information secure and avaylable.
jcespi2005 said:
There are same advantages doing with exchange (like i see):
First of all, you can sync in any place, trought GPRS or 3G, so you dosn't need be connected to your PC to restore your information.
Second, the servers normally has their backup policy, so your information is more secure.
Thirt, every time you change one elemment in contacts or calendar, this change sync on the fly to server, so your information is the same in server and in ppc everytime.
After three years of use, this is the most secure method i find to take this information secure and avaylable.
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i 2nd that... exchange is also really good for us lazy people who dont plug their phone into their pc that often
jcespi2005 said:
I think you can Import your exported CSV into Outlook, and then sync with TyTN trought ActiveSync.
Take a look at this
http://www.filesaveas.com/pdaconvert.html
perhaphs helps you.
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Thanks for the tips. I went back to WM5 1.35, restored my info with SPB backup and it worked. So I syncronized with Outlook, went back to Black 2.0 and syncronized again... contacts and tasks back to my device and working fine. Now I'll see about this exchange mail. By the way... which is the best one? P.S.: could this problem I had be something of interest to Jasjamming? Since Black is his ROM and had some compatibility issues with various backup programs... maybe he would like to have a look at it. Thanks again.

Does anyone have earlier ROM for Cingular 8525?

I am a newbie and not myself a developer, so if this question or my accessing this list is out of line, let me know. I am looking for a way to restore the former ROM that was on my device before upgrading.
Cingular/ATT just sent out an upgrade on their 8525 ROM, not to Windows Mobile 6, but just a more enhanced Windows Mobile 5 with push to talk, and some other changes.
After upgrading the ROM, my backup file for my Personal Databases will not restore. The Sprite Backup (5.1) backup file was the only storage I had of important data at least for the last four months, when I stopped being able to activesync it. The support staff at Sprite said they got my personal databases file to work, so I know the file itself is not corrupted, and the data is there, but every time I try to restore it to my 8525 (ie, following a hard reset, with and without the sbu file that Sprite created for moving from one ROM to another)... every time I try to restore it, it corrupts my Calendar and Contacts programs, bringing in no data, and making the Contacts program unusable.
My best guess is that the only way I can regain access to this data is to restore to the old ROM, then fix the ActiveSync problem, and save the data that way, then reupgrade to the new ROM, and sync that.
I give all this detail in case someone has a better suggestion as to what might be causing the Personal Database file not to restore, and not to work following the upgrade.
Short of that, I'd be interested if anyone can show me where I might restore the old ROM. Private replies are accepted.
Tom Bartlett
Here's the original 1.34.502 ROM for the 8525. If you're needing the UNofficial 2.06 leaked release, I don't have that one. . . sorry
Thanks so much!
Tom Bartlett
I am not sure how to use what the link downloaded. Perhaps my mistake was in downloading it to my laptop, for later use? It came as a large zip file, with three RAW files.
How do I use that download to change my ROM?
My guess is that I'll need to have my 8525 synced in Active Sync, and do the hit "run" rather than "save as" ?
Tom
CRAP!! Disregard that file. . . it's the wrong one. I'm uploading the CORRECT one right now.
I'm soooo sorry. . . I'll be back with the correct link as soon as it's uploaded.
Here it is. . . the CORRECT file.

upgrade to wm6 - lost contacts

I never installed outlook (mistake i know) but i do have a copy of my pim.vol file from wm5.
After upgrading to wm6 I obviously lost all of my contacts - is there any way to restore them using my wm5 pim.vol file? thanks
You could always give it the good ol' try mate, but I wouldn't keep my hopes too high if I were you. Sorry.

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