Hi everyone... as I mentioned in the title, I need a keyboard for my Prophet, and I'm not quite sure as to what the possibilities are in terms of connections...
Can I use PS2 or USB via an adapter to Mini-USB? Or am I limited to Bluetooth keyboards? Any suggestions as to certain models?
Thanks in advance!
PS2-USB / USB keyboard is certainly a no no. Bluetooth is definately workable, but I think there are these IR keyboard as well. Do a ebay check on these.. there are some for PDA in general, but maybe works for Prophet. Have a try.
Hmmm, I suppose the USB-Nono is because of the missing USB Host in the Prophet? Or is there something I'm missing?
The problem with Bluetooth keyboards, of course, is that they're so expensive... does the Apple Bluetooth keyboard work with the Prophet? It's pretty much the cheapest one available over here in Germany (~60 Euros).
Yes, the missing USB host. And yes, bluetooth keyboards are expensive and you also have the issue of having another device to charge.
I'm not sure about the Apple bluetooth keyboard .. as it being an Apple product, which is quite 'close' (i.e. you can't use the Apple USB mouse/keyboard on a PC, I think). You'll need to do you own research.
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I'm not sure about the Apple bluetooth keyboard .. as it being an Apple product, which is quite 'close' (i.e. you can't use the Apple USB mouse/keyboard on a PC, I think). You'll need to do you own research.
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Untrue. Apple keyboards and mice have worked in Windows since about Win 98. I know they work in XP for a fact, no additional drivers required.
I think that as long as any bluetooth keyboard supports the HID profile, it will work in our Windows Mobile devices.
I've attempted to pair my Apple BT keyboard with both my Treo 750v and my HTC Advantage (both WM5).
In both cases, the pairing works OK and the keyboard offers the "Input Device" service. However, I can't get the keyboard to actually do anything beyond this point. The bluetooth icon on the 750v shows that bluetooth is inactive and it doesn't keep a live connection open to the keyboard.
I don't know that it is anything to do with the Apple keyboard but I've not used other BT keyboards to know how it should work. The keyboard pairs and operates perfectly fine with my PS3, for instance, so I don't think it is in any way the device doing anything strange.
How do you get normal HID compliant BT keyboards to work with WM5?
I just got a perfect keyboard for my Prophet last December.
Its a Think Outside (Igo) stowaway BT keyboard. Got it for $30 from amazon.com during Xmas sale. Right now they sell it for around $60.
It works perfectly and it has a PDA stand built in which fits the Prophet nicely. I cannot stress more about the ease of use and quality of the keyboard which is very close compare to laptop keyboard.
I like the power management feature which turns on the keyboard automatically when you open it up and then turns off when you fold it or after there is no activity for certain period of time. It uses two AAA batteries, I wish it uses rechargeable battery with the same mini USB port like the prophet. But so far, I'm impressive with the battery life.
I do not how long the battery will last, but it has been a month and the battery is still good.
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(Apologies if this has been asked before or if it's mind-bogglingly retarded.)
What we have with the SGS2 is remarkable - it's as powerful as a netbook, with video-out and USB host functionality.
It seems to me that carrying such a super-phone alongside a netbook would be a waste of money and effort, when the processor in the SGS2 is more than up to scratch.
So what would be the obstacles in making a "shell" that provided a laptop-like keyboard, mouse and screen, with an SGS2 where the processor, RAM and so on would normally be housed? (The SGS2 would be removable, of course.)
These are the ones I can think of:
USB/Bluetooth keyboard support - may have to be Bluetooth keyboard.
Touch input? (May have to be Bluetooth mouse, but mouse input is possible in Android)
Connecting a monitor and USB device through the same USB port (not necessary if keyboard/mouse are Bluetooth)
Battery life - just make the shell house a fat battery!
So let's say we could piece all that together - a keyboard, mouse, battery and screen in one shell. It could come out considerably cheaper and lighter than a netbook, with all the SGS2's media playback abilities, internet without having to tether, and no need to change apps when going from netbook to phone.
There's probably something I haven't thought of, but I couldn't resist posting.
Thoughts?
I would love to see something like this happen. The SGS2 will be my first Android phone, coming from WinMo, so I've no idea what is available or is possible with the OS. One reason I bought this phone was because I wanted to connect a Bluetooth keyboard (and mouse?) to it and keep it mounted on a dock or stand right below my two monitors at work, serving as an internet/chat/email computer, instead of taking my phone AND laptop to work every day.
Now I may be mistaken, but MHL doesn't support simultaneous USB and HDMI out, so if you wanted to connect input devices AND have monitor out, I'd guess the keyboard and mouse would have to be Bluetooth, as you've mentioned. One thing that interests me is something the Wiki entry mentions:
"The HDTV remote will control the connected device with guaranteed mixed manufacturer interoperability."
So perhaps one day we might see some SGS2 "lapdock" like the Atrix?
Check out what the guy says at 8:50 in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtwTcnR0hqA
He says, basically, that he can connect the device to a tv through MHL, connect a BT keyboard and mouse, then sit back on his couch and use his device like a living room PC.
Bump...
Any news?
I put it in the top lid of my logitech dinovo mini with some rubber bands.
Looks like sh*t, but works really well!
//Gunnar
You won't be able to do a full netbook, because the microUSB connector on the SGS2 can be used either as microUSB or MHL (HDMI video out + charger input); the two functions of the connector are mutually exclusive. So, if you're piping the SGS2's video out to the shell's display, you have no USB, and if you're using the USB, there's no external video.
You might be able to use some kind of remoting software to work around this & use the USB functionality of the SGS2; the shell would have something like a VNC client installed, then connect to server software on the SGS2 (over WiFi or BT networking).
Hm, are you 100% sure about them being mutually exclusive?
GunnarKarlsson said:
I put it in the top lid of my logitech dinovo mini with some rubber bands.
Looks like sh*t, but works really well!
//Gunnar
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Interesting, but I would still prefer a full size keyboard.
How is it connected? USB? BT?
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You might be able to use some kind of remoting software to work around this & use the USB functionality of the SGS2; the shell would have something like a VNC client installed, then connect to server software on the SGS2 (over WiFi or BT networking).
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No idea how this can be realized. Afaik, there is a VNC client installed, but no server.
Guess it is easier to try what is mentioned above :
Use NHL to get the monitor working and BT for the keyboard. Would be good to have some profile, which enables the BT keyboard when NHL is plugged, maybe through locale or so.
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I know this thread is kinda old now, but some recent tech news brought this idea back to memory for me. ICE Computer showed a docking tablet they call Trinity at Computex 2011, which apparently can be made to dock with nearly any phone or even a PC module. I didn't find too much info that wasn't regurgitated between sites, but it sounds like they won't be selling it themselves, rather they'll sell it to other companies who want one for their device.
My hope is they'll sell some kind of universal version that takes different phones and maybe just requires a different-shaped module for different phones. Here's a link to the Engadget post, but there are other pages that describe what it does and when it should be available.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/01/ice-computer-shows-off-trinity-modular-tablet-concept-aims-for/
Add a Bluetooth keyboard and mouse, perhaps a stand, and voila!
Need a solution like this
1) MHL output to a tv/ monitor
2) Bluetooth keyboard and mouse work over HID profile
3) Remote Desktop software that allows use of external keyboard and mouse and which can output native resolution rather than just mirroring the screen.
Hi everyone,
I was wondering if anyone of you know if samsung has a keyboard and mouse similar to that of the Asus Transfomer. I searched over amazon but I couldn't find anything. It is not necessarily made by Samsung, it could be made by other manufacturers.
http://cdn4.digitaltrends.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/asus_transformer-625x499.png
Samsung has their own docking keyboard, which works fine. Next to that, as the keyboard is white, I have added a white wireless bluetooth mouse by Logitech, which works fine as well.
Who needs a laptop after that.
Doodle said:
Samsung has their own docking keyboard, which works fine. Next to that, as the keyboard is white, I have added a white wireless bluetooth mouse by Logitech, which works fine as well.
Who needs a laptop after that.
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I've seen that but what's interesting about the Asus keyboard/mouse is that it is very slim and it can be folded while if you want to hold the samsung keyboard, you will have to use a both hands maybe
No, I use it in my lap as a keyboard without needing two hands. The connection is secure. The mail advantage of the keyboard are that it has a number of special keys, and that it does charge the Tab wile inserted in the keyboard. Mail disadvantage is that it does require you to use the samsung stock software keyboard on the tab. The external keyboard requires that.
SamerBerjawi said:
Hi everyone,
I was wondering if anyone of you know if samsung has a keyboard and mouse similar to that of the Asus Transfomer. I searched over amazon but I couldn't find anything. It is not necessarily made by Samsung, it could be made by other manufacturers.
http://cdn4.digitaltrends.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/asus_transformer-625x499.png
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If you can get your hands on this official keyboard case, this I think beats the Asus transformer in style and portability, though battery life will take a toll since it's bluetooth. Problem is, I can't see any US vendors selling it.
http://reviews.cnet.com/2300-3126_7-10008260-4.html
i got the keyboard dock as well. Went with the white one instead of the new bluetooth keyboard from samsung with a folding case since i don't wanna use bluetooth to preserve battery life.
The advantage is that its rock steady in its position and you can easily have it your lap on teh bus for example. the downside is that you can adjust the angle. although i'm fine with the angle the way it is but they could have maybe made it a bit more adjustable somehow.
i also got the official usb adapter which i use for mouse, works so far with every mouse i've tried, and its snappy!
i would recommend a wireless mouse with a tiny usb dongle instead of bluetooth. mainly due to battery life. i'm getting one myself, just using a wired mouse atm.
on another note, the usb adapter works quite well also, even tho its a bit on the large side i'm content with it. to my own surprise i plugged in my old usb saitek cyborg gamepad (looks like a x360 controller only you can switch place with the d-pad and left analogue stick) and it worked perfectly with my emulators!
one suggestion on the usb adapter tho, if you're using it for mouse you are better of plugging in the mouse first and then plugging the adapter into the keyboard dock (with mouse already plugged in). Seems like a lot less risk of breaking it that way. that's why i don't like adatpers that much, but guess it's the price to pay when you get as slick and slim tablet as the galaxy tab. no UBS port from start. still it has better placement of the pin connector than ipad for example since you can't have it netbook style in apple's keyboard dock due to that fact, but the galaxy tab becomes just like a netbook when combined with the keyboard dock.
also the keyboard dock is not a hassle to bring along on the road and it feels sturdy and well built. and it's also about half the price of the new bluetooth keyboard with case, at least here in sweden. I might get the bluetooth one for portability since it's obviously a bit less space demanding, but not much compared to the keyboard dock. but at the current price i'll hold off a bit since i'm so satisfied with my solid keyboard dock. feels good to type on too IMO.
i'll end my rant now
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If you can get your hands on this official keyboard case, this I think beats the Asus transformer in style and portability, though battery life will take a toll since it's bluetooth. Problem is, I can't see any US vendors selling it.
http://reviews.cnet.com/2300-3126_7-10008260-4.html
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I have this Samsung Folio BT Keyboard. Love it. Works very well. But for home i use the samsung charging kb dock. Love it too
droider seeks enlightenment:
having found an excellent Bluetooth keyboard (Logitech K810) for my shiny new N7 i'm now looking for a wireless mouse, don't really care if it needs a transceiver or not. searching around hasn't yielded any particularly promising leads. (yes, i've heard of the Google machine, no joy)
is this a weird thing to be looking for? do they all work with Android so, duh!, just buy one or is it so odd/marginal/doesn't-work-so-well that i'm barking up the wrong tree?
related to this, how well do the smartphone-as-mouse apps work with a droid tablet? most say "mouse away on your PC" but i'm not seeing much about doing it on the tablet.
microsoft wedge mouse .. but like the majority of bluetooth devices, there is a bug so you'll need to wait for an update from Google to fix .. you'll probably find the same with your keyboard.
yeah, i'd heard there was a bug but so far the keyboard has been good.
so, bug aside, should any old bluetooth mouse be expected to work well? that's kind of what i'd expect but you never know, tech weirdness and all.
I got the Logitech bluetooth trackpad (k651?) and it works like a charm with my k811 bluetooth keyboard. Have them paired to my Macbook, iPad, and Nexus 7 (2013) with no problems.
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Fry's had HP x4000b bluetooth mice on sale for $17.99. It pairs and works fine with the Nexus 7 (after adjusting speed).
I have an old MS 5000 BT netbook travel mouse. Works great.
I recently bought a noname keyboard and mouse from ebay, the keyboard works great... the mouse worked once and then was never able to reconnect after hours of unpairing and repairing it just won't ever work again... even tried a factory reset on the tablet no dice.... the same mouse works perfect on my s4 regardless of how many times i unpair it and reconnect
what mice are confirmed working more than once on the nexus 7
I have logitech wireless keyboard and mouse...for my N7(2013) which works really well...I got it from Amazon...and its working really fine..sometimes it creates a problem in connecting and pairing but most of the time it works smoothly and very fine....If you are facing such problems with the mouse then you better consult the customer service support as they could be the right person to sort it out.....
I use a Razer orochi. Its a great little mouse with decent specs and a great scroll wheel. Comes with a zip up pouch and a USB connector to.
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I have an old MS 5000 BT netbook travel mouse. Works great.
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Ditto on that here.
magicaly it seems the mouse decided to finaly pair and connect. still shopping for a fullsize bluetooth keyboard to use my tablet as a desktop connected to my tv
I can use my Logitech K810 keyboard and M555b mouse - both Bluetooth.
Works very well, no hickups.
The K810 also have 3 switches to...switch to 3 different BT devices on the fly. I can connect my Windows 7, iMac and Nexus 7 at work flawlessly.
Well i have this combo of wireless mouse and keyboard from Logitech and its working really fine...but the only thing which is worrying me is the instant disconnect of the keyboard time and time...and not pretty sure about the battery life of the keyboard too....but at the price they are offered are worth of it...and the disconnection problem is there but not most of the time.....
this is the one which I have
http://www.logitech.com/en-us/product/wireless-combo-mk320?crid=27
For me I use a universal cover with keyboard which uses a cable and since I have a phone I use it as a mouse with droidmote but since im so used to virtual keyboard I often use my keyboard cover as a stand and droidmote as the controller
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I have logitech wireless keyboard and mouse...for my N7(2013) which works really well...I got it from Amazon...and its working really fine..sometimes it creates a problem in connecting and pairing but most of the time it works smoothly and very fine....If you are facing such problems with the mouse then you better consult the customer service support as they could be the right person to sort it out.....
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hi Jimmy,
Are you using the Logitech Wireless Combo MK320 kb-mouse? How are you connecting it to the N7 - Do you have a unifying nano-receiver connected through a OTG cable?
I am trying to connect the K400 with the OTG cable, it is not working out.
Thanks,
here's wht i hav tried. worked great without any tinkering (root, 3rd party apps etc)-
1. sony ps3 controller.
2. various usb mice.
3. mircosoft wireless mouse (the ones with the usb dongle).
4. logitech wireless keyboard mouse combo.
Has anyone tried using both a bluetooth mouse and keboard? I want to use both to take notes in class, read powerpoints, etc. Mostly easy basic stuff like that.
I am thinking of getting the Minisuit keyboard since it seems to balance well inside the slot. I don't want a full case, so this seems like the best option for me right now. unless some can tell me of an option that comes with a stand like this, that is cheaper....
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Tablet-Keyboard-Windows-Android3-0/dp/B009JPBPWO/ref=dp_ob_title_ce
The mouse part is confusing me. There seem to be a lot of brands I'm not familiar with. And many mice with poor reviews. Does anyone have experience with one that has worked well at a fair price?
Thanks!
EDIT: Or will any basic bluetooth mouse work? I figured it had to be designed to work with android.
drewmey said:
Has anyone tried using both a bluetooth mouse and keboard? I want to use both to take notes in class, read powerpoints, etc. Mostly easy basic stuff like that.
I am thinking of getting the Minisuit keyboard since it seems to balance well inside the slot. I don't want a full case, so this seems like the best option for me right now. unless some can tell me of an option that comes with a stand like this, that is cheaper....
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Tablet-Keyboard-Windows-Android3-0/dp/B009JPBPWO/ref=dp_ob_title_ce
The mouse part is confusing me. There seem to be a lot of brands I'm not familiar with. And many mice with poor reviews. Does anyone have experience with one that has worked well at a fair price?
Thanks!
EDIT: Or will any basic bluetooth mouse work? I figured it had to be designed to work with android.
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I've used the Logitech K810 keyboard successfully, and I've used Microsoft's Wedge mouse successfully, but I couldn't get both of them to work at the same time. I did not troubleshoot, and it's possible there's a way to fix the glitch, I'm just reporting my experience.
I love the Logitech keyboard. Originally I bought it for occasional use and traveling, but it's so good that I use it as my everyday keyboard at my desk. Just as advertised, it pairs smoothly with up to three devices. When I use it at my desk, I use a regular (not Bluetooth) wireless mouse.
My Anker Ultra-Slim keyboard and Microsoft Notebook Mouse 5000 work together just fine on my 2013 N7. Sometimes I first have to unpair and re-pair them to get them to connect but after that they work.
I use Logitech K810 keyboard and T610 mouse. Both are Bluetooth and you can switch when using it with your PC or MacBook.
Works great... But the problem is that the mouse sometimes just last out of the blue. Had to reboot. There is a thread in Google forums that discussed this and this is a known flaw that Google has not fixed.
All options seem to have a huge lip of leather coming off the bottom portion right under the touchpad, or need a kickstand for support which is not practical on your lap.
Any suggestions?
I bought a Motorola KZ-450 combo keyboard/trackpad that's got a protective cover that turns into a stand about two years ago on one of those "Deal A Day" sites for $30 or $45. I keep it in one of those generic cloth 10" tablet pouches along with my Note.
My only regret with it? Not buying two at that price- it's been pretty much perfect for me, and I use it to bang out E-mails when I'm flying.
Any other options out there with a trackpad? The motorola doesn't seem to be available in the UK
Been looking for something similar myself.
All I've been able to find are touchpad based solutions...not that practical
I was looking for the same until I ordered this today: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I describe why that one won out of the 100s of keyboards I was checking for certain features (priority, quick switch, multi-device pairing, lower priority, trackpad). Not only does it have both of those, but also a built in IR (learning) remote! Check out my post in the other keyboard topic on this page, where I describe it a bit more. Hope that one appeals to you!
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My bad, thanks for letting me know http://www.amazon.com/Ultrathin-Wireless-Bluetooth-Programmable-Rechargeable/dp/B00EZL1N6U
what about this one?
http://www.amazon.com/Perixx-PERIDU...1-9&keywords=bluetooth+keyboard+with+trackpad
I use the Logitech K410. Perfect and not too pricey.
sorry for the bump but... does k410 works via bluetooth ot you use the USB dongle with a cable?
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sorry for the bump but... does k410 works via bluetooth ot you use the USB dongle with a cable?
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I wasn't part of this thread, but I hvae used logitech products with my android devices that were meant for windows. I have my Trackball M570 and one of my wireless K800 keyboard both connected to the same wireless dongle. When I want to use them with my Note 10.1 2014, I plug wireless receiver dongle into an adapter, like this OTG cable: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00GM0OZ4O/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
So, it connects wirelessly as it would to the pc, not via bluetooth.
Only other thing to note is, the apps Logitech has for Android keyboards will not work with things like the k800.
There are miniaturized keyboards with touch pads and often a remote control on the other side for smart tvs. But these are wifi based, maybe additionally with bluetooth. Or there's some wireless remote(the wifi ,not IR kind) or wifi keyboard driver/app for Android.
I found this one
http://www.amazon.it/LEICKE®-Sharon...kmr0&keywords=tastiera+touchpad+note+10.1+014
It's very cool, but they don't sell a version with Italian layout (And the keyboard is not attached to the cover, but you can fix it with some glue XD)
Do you know something similar sold with different layouts?