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I need a keyboard for my Prophet - what're my options?

Hi everyone... as I mentioned in the title, I need a keyboard for my Prophet, and I'm not quite sure as to what the possibilities are in terms of connections...
Can I use PS2 or USB via an adapter to Mini-USB? Or am I limited to Bluetooth keyboards? Any suggestions as to certain models?
Thanks in advance!

PS2-USB / USB keyboard is certainly a no no. Bluetooth is definately workable, but I think there are these IR keyboard as well. Do a ebay check on these.. there are some for PDA in general, but maybe works for Prophet. Have a try.

Hmmm, I suppose the USB-Nono is because of the missing USB Host in the Prophet? Or is there something I'm missing?
The problem with Bluetooth keyboards, of course, is that they're so expensive... does the Apple Bluetooth keyboard work with the Prophet? It's pretty much the cheapest one available over here in Germany (~60 Euros).

Yes, the missing USB host. And yes, bluetooth keyboards are expensive and you also have the issue of having another device to charge.
I'm not sure about the Apple bluetooth keyboard .. as it being an Apple product, which is quite 'close' (i.e. you can't use the Apple USB mouse/keyboard on a PC, I think). You'll need to do you own research.

hanmin said:
I'm not sure about the Apple bluetooth keyboard .. as it being an Apple product, which is quite 'close' (i.e. you can't use the Apple USB mouse/keyboard on a PC, I think). You'll need to do you own research.
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Untrue. Apple keyboards and mice have worked in Windows since about Win 98. I know they work in XP for a fact, no additional drivers required.
I think that as long as any bluetooth keyboard supports the HID profile, it will work in our Windows Mobile devices.

I've attempted to pair my Apple BT keyboard with both my Treo 750v and my HTC Advantage (both WM5).
In both cases, the pairing works OK and the keyboard offers the "Input Device" service. However, I can't get the keyboard to actually do anything beyond this point. The bluetooth icon on the 750v shows that bluetooth is inactive and it doesn't keep a live connection open to the keyboard.
I don't know that it is anything to do with the Apple keyboard but I've not used other BT keyboards to know how it should work. The keyboard pairs and operates perfectly fine with my PS3, for instance, so I don't think it is in any way the device doing anything strange.
How do you get normal HID compliant BT keyboards to work with WM5?

I just got a perfect keyboard for my Prophet last December.
Its a Think Outside (Igo) stowaway BT keyboard. Got it for $30 from amazon.com during Xmas sale. Right now they sell it for around $60.
It works perfectly and it has a PDA stand built in which fits the Prophet nicely. I cannot stress more about the ease of use and quality of the keyboard which is very close compare to laptop keyboard.
I like the power management feature which turns on the keyboard automatically when you open it up and then turns off when you fold it or after there is no activity for certain period of time. It uses two AAA batteries, I wish it uses rechargeable battery with the same mini USB port like the prophet. But so far, I'm impressive with the battery life.
I do not how long the battery will last, but it has been a month and the battery is still good.

Keyboards/mice

Looked around to find more info but couldn't find quite what I was looking for. First off, I wanted to confirm that any bluetooth keyboard/mouse should be compatible with the Atrix. Second, (assuming the first was correct...) I wanted to hear if people have tried other keyboards/mice with the Atrix. I'm assuming that the android related keys found on the official motorola keyboard are still available on normal keyboards, just labeled differently?
Thanks in advance!

Do we really need bluetooth? What about a usb hub and wireless kb / mouse? I don't own a bluetooth kb and mouse so dropping $100 on these is almost pointless. Anyone try this method yet:
micro usb ----> usb adapter ----> usb hub -------> usb kb /usb mouse

Either way... basically just trying to find other options for the webtop. I looked around and found out that I was mistaken about the pricing on bluetooth keyboards and mice. Apparently the Motorola keyboard/mouse aren't too ridiculously priced compared to other bluetooth options. I still feel like I could justify a regular keyboard more because I could still use it for a computer or something. Can't help but feel the moto keyboard would go unused aside from the atrix.

I'm one adapter short of testing the hub idea, I'll let you know sometime this week if it works. Right now I'm just using it with the virtual trackpad/kb...

If anyone wants to try this here is a USB gender changer that should allow you to plug a hub into the phone (for a usb keyboard/mouse) using the included micro usb cord. even tough its ~$3.00 I dont care about webtop enough to try it.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=470938631&pf_rd_i=507846

Just tried my razer Orochi blue tooft mouse when docked in the laptop dock and it paired right up and works perfect
So if this mouse works i would think any one will work.

Apple bluetooth keyboard and mouse work, if that's the way you roll. The media buttons on the keyboard will even fire up the music player on the phone. Brightness buttons don't do anything though.

It looks like the Atrix's own bluetooth keyboard is quite nice quality and very compact. does anyone have it that can give us a little review of it? I wouldn't mind using it as my main keyboard for my desktop.
Does anyone have the apple BT keyboard running on a windows 7 system? does it work well?

Logitech DiNovo Edge successfully paired with Atrix
I successfully paired my Logitech DiNovo Edge keyboard with my Atrix today and hooked the phone up to my TV via HDMI. Worked perfectly. Loved having the connection mod without needing a dock. Was able to do a lot from the couch
The DiNovo Edge has a built in mouse pad and is very sturdy and high quality. One of my all time favorite keyboard/mouse combo's.
Hope this helps.

I had actually looked at the edge in the past... seems like it would be a good pairing for the Atrix. Might have to give that a try. I just need to justify the cost to myself.

CC Lemon said:
I had actually looked at the edge in the past... seems like it would be a good pairing for the Atrix. Might have to give that a try. I just need to justify the cost to myself.
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If you don't mind the size it's, imho, perfect. I have a few other BT keyboards I'm going to try to pair when I get time...if I get a chance I'll report back.

Where can you buy the Motorola keyboard?

Bigsam411 said:
If anyone wants to try this here is a USB gender changer that should allow you to plug a hub into the phone (for a usb keyboard/mouse) using the included micro usb cord. even tough its ~$3.00 I dont care about webtop enough to try it.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=470938631&pf_rd_i=507846
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That's not the right adapter at all... you need a female A -> male micro for one device, or however you want to then convert the other side. I'm waiting on that part then mine goes from that to a mini usb into my hub. might not work but we'll see.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0023FTRUO

Well non-bt doesn't work for me at least. I'm sure we just have to load a driver or something. I tried atrix -> male micro usb -> regual usb female -> male usb -> mini usb -> hub. It should be noted it was a powered usb hub. My mouse plugged into the hub didn't work, so I gave up haha.

barry99705 said:
Apple bluetooth keyboard and mouse work, if that's the way you roll. The media buttons on the keyboard will even fire up the music player on the phone. Brightness buttons don't do anything though.
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Have you tried the apple keyboard in webtop mode I can't get it to work at all but if I connect it to the phone before that it works fine it's kind of weird
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Possible to make "shell" to turn it into a netbook?

(Apologies if this has been asked before or if it's mind-bogglingly retarded.)
What we have with the SGS2 is remarkable - it's as powerful as a netbook, with video-out and USB host functionality.
It seems to me that carrying such a super-phone alongside a netbook would be a waste of money and effort, when the processor in the SGS2 is more than up to scratch.
So what would be the obstacles in making a "shell" that provided a laptop-like keyboard, mouse and screen, with an SGS2 where the processor, RAM and so on would normally be housed? (The SGS2 would be removable, of course.)
These are the ones I can think of:
USB/Bluetooth keyboard support - may have to be Bluetooth keyboard.
Touch input? (May have to be Bluetooth mouse, but mouse input is possible in Android)
Connecting a monitor and USB device through the same USB port (not necessary if keyboard/mouse are Bluetooth)
Battery life - just make the shell house a fat battery!
So let's say we could piece all that together - a keyboard, mouse, battery and screen in one shell. It could come out considerably cheaper and lighter than a netbook, with all the SGS2's media playback abilities, internet without having to tether, and no need to change apps when going from netbook to phone.
There's probably something I haven't thought of, but I couldn't resist posting.
Thoughts?

I would love to see something like this happen. The SGS2 will be my first Android phone, coming from WinMo, so I've no idea what is available or is possible with the OS. One reason I bought this phone was because I wanted to connect a Bluetooth keyboard (and mouse?) to it and keep it mounted on a dock or stand right below my two monitors at work, serving as an internet/chat/email computer, instead of taking my phone AND laptop to work every day.
Now I may be mistaken, but MHL doesn't support simultaneous USB and HDMI out, so if you wanted to connect input devices AND have monitor out, I'd guess the keyboard and mouse would have to be Bluetooth, as you've mentioned. One thing that interests me is something the Wiki entry mentions:
"The HDTV remote will control the connected device with guaranteed mixed manufacturer interoperability."
So perhaps one day we might see some SGS2 "lapdock" like the Atrix?
Check out what the guy says at 8:50 in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtwTcnR0hqA
He says, basically, that he can connect the device to a tv through MHL, connect a BT keyboard and mouse, then sit back on his couch and use his device like a living room PC.

Bump...
Any news?

I put it in the top lid of my logitech dinovo mini with some rubber bands.
Looks like sh*t, but works really well!
//Gunnar

You won't be able to do a full netbook, because the microUSB connector on the SGS2 can be used either as microUSB or MHL (HDMI video out + charger input); the two functions of the connector are mutually exclusive. So, if you're piping the SGS2's video out to the shell's display, you have no USB, and if you're using the USB, there's no external video.
You might be able to use some kind of remoting software to work around this & use the USB functionality of the SGS2; the shell would have something like a VNC client installed, then connect to server software on the SGS2 (over WiFi or BT networking).

Hm, are you 100% sure about them being mutually exclusive?

GunnarKarlsson said:
I put it in the top lid of my logitech dinovo mini with some rubber bands.
Looks like sh*t, but works really well!
//Gunnar
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Interesting, but I would still prefer a full size keyboard.
How is it connected? USB? BT?
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3waygeek said:
You might be able to use some kind of remoting software to work around this & use the USB functionality of the SGS2; the shell would have something like a VNC client installed, then connect to server software on the SGS2 (over WiFi or BT networking).
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No idea how this can be realized. Afaik, there is a VNC client installed, but no server.
Guess it is easier to try what is mentioned above :
Use NHL to get the monitor working and BT for the keyboard. Would be good to have some profile, which enables the BT keyboard when NHL is plugged, maybe through locale or so.
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I know this thread is kinda old now, but some recent tech news brought this idea back to memory for me. ICE Computer showed a docking tablet they call Trinity at Computex 2011, which apparently can be made to dock with nearly any phone or even a PC module. I didn't find too much info that wasn't regurgitated between sites, but it sounds like they won't be selling it themselves, rather they'll sell it to other companies who want one for their device.
My hope is they'll sell some kind of universal version that takes different phones and maybe just requires a different-shaped module for different phones. Here's a link to the Engadget post, but there are other pages that describe what it does and when it should be available.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/01/ice-computer-shows-off-trinity-modular-tablet-concept-aims-for/
Add a Bluetooth keyboard and mouse, perhaps a stand, and voila!

Need a solution like this
1) MHL output to a tv/ monitor
2) Bluetooth keyboard and mouse work over HID profile
3) Remote Desktop software that allows use of external keyboard and mouse and which can output native resolution rather than just mirroring the screen.

[Q] Asus Transformer-like Keyboard and Mouse?

Hi everyone,
I was wondering if anyone of you know if samsung has a keyboard and mouse similar to that of the Asus Transfomer. I searched over amazon but I couldn't find anything. It is not necessarily made by Samsung, it could be made by other manufacturers.
http://cdn4.digitaltrends.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/asus_transformer-625x499.png

Samsung has their own docking keyboard, which works fine. Next to that, as the keyboard is white, I have added a white wireless bluetooth mouse by Logitech, which works fine as well.
Who needs a laptop after that.

Doodle said:
Samsung has their own docking keyboard, which works fine. Next to that, as the keyboard is white, I have added a white wireless bluetooth mouse by Logitech, which works fine as well.
Who needs a laptop after that.
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I've seen that but what's interesting about the Asus keyboard/mouse is that it is very slim and it can be folded while if you want to hold the samsung keyboard, you will have to use a both hands maybe

No, I use it in my lap as a keyboard without needing two hands. The connection is secure. The mail advantage of the keyboard are that it has a number of special keys, and that it does charge the Tab wile inserted in the keyboard. Mail disadvantage is that it does require you to use the samsung stock software keyboard on the tab. The external keyboard requires that.

SamerBerjawi said:
Hi everyone,
I was wondering if anyone of you know if samsung has a keyboard and mouse similar to that of the Asus Transfomer. I searched over amazon but I couldn't find anything. It is not necessarily made by Samsung, it could be made by other manufacturers.
http://cdn4.digitaltrends.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/asus_transformer-625x499.png
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If you can get your hands on this official keyboard case, this I think beats the Asus transformer in style and portability, though battery life will take a toll since it's bluetooth. Problem is, I can't see any US vendors selling it.
http://reviews.cnet.com/2300-3126_7-10008260-4.html

i got the keyboard dock as well. Went with the white one instead of the new bluetooth keyboard from samsung with a folding case since i don't wanna use bluetooth to preserve battery life.
The advantage is that its rock steady in its position and you can easily have it your lap on teh bus for example. the downside is that you can adjust the angle. although i'm fine with the angle the way it is but they could have maybe made it a bit more adjustable somehow.
i also got the official usb adapter which i use for mouse, works so far with every mouse i've tried, and its snappy!
i would recommend a wireless mouse with a tiny usb dongle instead of bluetooth. mainly due to battery life. i'm getting one myself, just using a wired mouse atm.
on another note, the usb adapter works quite well also, even tho its a bit on the large side i'm content with it. to my own surprise i plugged in my old usb saitek cyborg gamepad (looks like a x360 controller only you can switch place with the d-pad and left analogue stick) and it worked perfectly with my emulators!
one suggestion on the usb adapter tho, if you're using it for mouse you are better of plugging in the mouse first and then plugging the adapter into the keyboard dock (with mouse already plugged in). Seems like a lot less risk of breaking it that way. that's why i don't like adatpers that much, but guess it's the price to pay when you get as slick and slim tablet as the galaxy tab. no UBS port from start. still it has better placement of the pin connector than ipad for example since you can't have it netbook style in apple's keyboard dock due to that fact, but the galaxy tab becomes just like a netbook when combined with the keyboard dock.
also the keyboard dock is not a hassle to bring along on the road and it feels sturdy and well built. and it's also about half the price of the new bluetooth keyboard with case, at least here in sweden. I might get the bluetooth one for portability since it's obviously a bit less space demanding, but not much compared to the keyboard dock. but at the current price i'll hold off a bit since i'm so satisfied with my solid keyboard dock. feels good to type on too IMO.
i'll end my rant now

Jnn1 said:
If you can get your hands on this official keyboard case, this I think beats the Asus transformer in style and portability, though battery life will take a toll since it's bluetooth. Problem is, I can't see any US vendors selling it.
http://reviews.cnet.com/2300-3126_7-10008260-4.html
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I have this Samsung Folio BT Keyboard. Love it. Works very well. But for home i use the samsung charging kb dock. Love it too

Bluetooth Mouse and Keyboard

Has anyone tried using both a bluetooth mouse and keboard? I want to use both to take notes in class, read powerpoints, etc. Mostly easy basic stuff like that.
I am thinking of getting the Minisuit keyboard since it seems to balance well inside the slot. I don't want a full case, so this seems like the best option for me right now. unless some can tell me of an option that comes with a stand like this, that is cheaper....
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Tablet-Keyboard-Windows-Android3-0/dp/B009JPBPWO/ref=dp_ob_title_ce
The mouse part is confusing me. There seem to be a lot of brands I'm not familiar with. And many mice with poor reviews. Does anyone have experience with one that has worked well at a fair price?
Thanks!
EDIT: Or will any basic bluetooth mouse work? I figured it had to be designed to work with android.

drewmey said:
Has anyone tried using both a bluetooth mouse and keboard? I want to use both to take notes in class, read powerpoints, etc. Mostly easy basic stuff like that.
I am thinking of getting the Minisuit keyboard since it seems to balance well inside the slot. I don't want a full case, so this seems like the best option for me right now. unless some can tell me of an option that comes with a stand like this, that is cheaper....
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Tablet-Keyboard-Windows-Android3-0/dp/B009JPBPWO/ref=dp_ob_title_ce
The mouse part is confusing me. There seem to be a lot of brands I'm not familiar with. And many mice with poor reviews. Does anyone have experience with one that has worked well at a fair price?
Thanks!
EDIT: Or will any basic bluetooth mouse work? I figured it had to be designed to work with android.
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I've used the Logitech K810 keyboard successfully, and I've used Microsoft's Wedge mouse successfully, but I couldn't get both of them to work at the same time. I did not troubleshoot, and it's possible there's a way to fix the glitch, I'm just reporting my experience.
I love the Logitech keyboard. Originally I bought it for occasional use and traveling, but it's so good that I use it as my everyday keyboard at my desk. Just as advertised, it pairs smoothly with up to three devices. When I use it at my desk, I use a regular (not Bluetooth) wireless mouse.

My Anker Ultra-Slim keyboard and Microsoft Notebook Mouse 5000 work together just fine on my 2013 N7. Sometimes I first have to unpair and re-pair them to get them to connect but after that they work.

I use Logitech K810 keyboard and T610 mouse. Both are Bluetooth and you can switch when using it with your PC or MacBook.
Works great... But the problem is that the mouse sometimes just last out of the blue. Had to reboot. There is a thread in Google forums that discussed this and this is a known flaw that Google has not fixed.