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Will we see WM6 for HTC Trinity ?!

Everybody these days is discussing the upcoming GPS ROM for our favorite Trinity, but the next question is: will a new ROM come out to upgrade our baby to the newly announced Windows Mobile 6.0 ?

WM6?
mo7al said:
Everybody these days is discussing the upcoming GPS ROM for our favorite Trinity, but the next question is: will a new ROM come out to upgrade our baby to the newly announced Windows Mobile 6.0 ?
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Will keep my fingers crossed and hope for it ... On the Himalayas & Blue Angels which started off as WM2003, there are ROMS (unofficial) for WM2003SE, WM5 (latest AKU 3.5) while on the Magician it has always stuck on WM2003SE.
So in short, pray hard. I will join you in praying as I would love to have WM6 on my trinity as well ;-)
PS : Now we got the GPS to work on the trinity, any luck to 'enable' the FM radio as well? There has been speculation on the FM Radio being available on the Trinity. :-D that would make this one of the most feature packed PPC on earth ..

I agree. I don't see Trinity's successor being released anytime soon so they should just go ahead with keeping their latest phone up to date.
As for the FM radio, hell yeah, if it's there, why the hell not enable it? Oh, wait, don't tell me... is the FM radio conflicting with the Bluetooth?

i do also keep my fingers crossed!!

forcedalias said:
I agree. I don't see Trinity's successor being released anytime soon so they should just go ahead with keeping their latest phone up to date.
As for the FM radio, hell yeah, if it's there, why the hell not enable it? Oh, wait, don't tell me... is the FM radio conflicting with the Bluetooth?
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if we can DUMP an original Hong Kong ROM from Trinity we can make a FM Radio test with European or American version

mo7al said:
Everybody these days is discussing the upcoming GPS ROM for our favorite Trinity, but the next question is: will a new ROM come out to upgrade our baby to the newly announced Windows Mobile 6.0 ?
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I can create WM6 Rom for Trinity! But now mamich tools work incorrectly with Hermes & Trinity!
addfile.exe not working with Trin & Herm

lvsw said:
I can create WM6 Rom for Trinity! But now mamich tools work incorrectly with Hermes & Trinity!
addfile.exe not working with Trin & Herm
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Where did you get the build files? Is there an image for the windows device emulator too?
edit: Found it!
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...74-18b7-4af8-9fe1-0de049b6b3e9&DisplayLang=en

lvsw said:
I can create WM6 Rom for Trinity! But now mamich tools work incorrectly with Hermes & Trinity!
addfile.exe not working with Trin & Herm
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Would be great!

greatsokol said:
Would be great!
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Would be great if mamaich create new build "mamich tools" with new addfile.exe
Without new version addfile.exe I can't create new FirWare

Floriz said:
Where did you get the build files? Is there an image for the windows device emulator too?
edit: Found it!
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...74-18b7-4af8-9fe1-0de049b6b3e9&DisplayLang=en
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I think theres a fair chance of a WM6 tom given that the Trinity is reasonably new, from all accounts there is no Trinity successor on the horizon, and with all their variants im sure the Hermes/Trinity will recieve user-made WM6s.
Fingers crossed anyway.

Fingers crossed for all that bought it sure, but there ARE trinity/tytn successors in the horizon.
For example look for HTC Kaiser, a thinner Tytn with GPS (i.e. everything that tytn and trinity is now).

Don't expect an official update. This is the reply I received from HTC:
Thank you for your enquiry concerning the HTC P3600 mobile device.
Unfortunately we will not upgrade our current devices to include the Mobile 6 software.? However, there will be new devices out which will include the software.
Should you have any other problem, please do not hesitate to call us. Your Local number can be found at Http://www.europe.htc.com/support/cs_by_phone.html
Best regards,
HTC Support
[email protected]
http://www.htc.com

quite strange! Microsoft annunced yesterday WM6 saying it will be possible to upgrade some "old" devices like t-mobile dash with WM6!

The question is: when will they release an official P3600 successor?
And how much it will cost. And if it is worth waiting for it.

Tytan you are not very long in the PocketPC world eh?
"possible to upgrade" doesn't mean "the vendor will do it"
same happened in the past (more than once)

Well ... if they in fact do not release a WM6 update for the D810, then it will only hamper their sales in Australia, seeing that they only released the D810 on Jan 16th (1 month ago). So, as new WM devices are released with WM6, it will make it hard to compete if they do not provide a WM6 update ... regardless of all the functions this puppy has.

ZakMcRofl said:
The question is: when will they release an official P3600 successor?
And how much it will cost. And if it is worth waiting for it.
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We have already talked about that. Look at google.

Couple of announcements started coming out from 3GSM on upgrades, Imate to upgrade a few, Palm to upgrade Treo, nothing from HTC so I doubt it.
I've found HTC to be follower not a leader in these type of things, same goes for their products, they are only inavative if they have to be. I guess if enough people complain and they get enough bad rap they might but from everything I've seen with HTC, they couldn't give to <fill in any explicit word here> about their customers.
Doesn't matter, Trinity will tied me over until some of those new Imate devices come out, if they live up to the specs coming out of 3GSM, there will be some pretty amazing devices, I can't want to see the clamshell one, hope it comes in HTC killing black as well as gold

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http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...47-6e06-4a0c-8cac-ca7d4c09cb56&DisplayLang=en

Please, please WM6 with working Blackberry Connect

I realize that BBC is very low on most people wish list here but until our company upgrades to Exchange 2007 later this year, I am forced to use the Blackberry Connect client if I am to carry my preciouse 8525 instead of a blackberry. I just got the BBC working on WM5 in 3G and am thrilled. However, having tasted the great WM6 Roms here, I must have it!
Does anyone have a good WM6 rom that the Blackberry Connect client actually works on without having to hack the OS? I'm fairly technical since I manage our IT facility and can reg edit, etc, but I don't feel too comfortable with the OS hacking I've seen in some threads to make the BBC client work. I am almost sure I'd brick my device.
If anyone could point me in the right direction I would be very grateful. Thanks for your time. - EH

BB Connect works fines for me.
First post, but have been reading the boards and enjoying the benefits for months.
I'm using the radio that was released with the Cingular 2.06 ROM, but it might work with others. I didn't have to do any OS tweaking. I just installed the Desktop Activesync program and the BB Connect for WM6 that came with WMXL v0.20 and everything worked. Of course, I called Cingular and had them change my data plan to the PDA Connect for BB Connect Unlimited.

So excuse my ignorance but I haven't been able to find this. You are using a radio version not included in the WMXL .20 rom? How do you keep your orignial rom? Oh, and thanks for the quick repoonse.

evilhomer said:
So excuse my ignorance but I haven't been able to find this. You are using a radio version not included in the WMXL .20 rom? How do you keep your orignial rom? Oh, and thanks for the quick repoonse.
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easy... you cook a Radio ONLY upgrade using Dutty's NBHTOOL1.0... you can find the thread by using the find function or reading the wiki...

WMXL v0.20 doesn't come with a radio upgrade. Using the Wiki, you can find the available radio upgrades, of which mine is one of them. Just flash the OS and the radio independently.

evilhomer said:
Does anyone have a good WM6 rom that the Blackberry Connect client actually works on without having to hack the OS? I'm fairly technical since I manage our IT facility and can reg edit, etc, but I don't feel too comfortable with the OS hacking I've seen in some threads to make the BBC client work. I am almost sure I'd brick my device.
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If you don't feel confortable I would say don't use any of these WM6 updates since NONE are official.
But if you want WM6.. Why not use WM XDA Live .20.
It's got the OS # changle already done to allow BBC..
(At least as far as I know.. I don't use it...)

jakirkla said:
WMXL v0.20 doesn't come with a radio upgrade. Using the Wiki, you can find the available radio upgrades, of which mine is one of them. Just flash the OS and the radio independently.
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So let me see if I have have this correctly. I if I use the WMXL .20 rom, it will not change the radios? I will have the same radio verison after the upgrade or will need in reinstall the radios as well? Forgive my ignorace. I just want to make sure I have the right Cingular radio version to keep the Blackberry Connect going.

evilhomer said:
So let me see if I have have this correctly. I if I use the WMXL .20 rom, it will not change the radios? I will have the same radio verison after the upgrade or will need in reinstall the radios as well?
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only the OS will be changed. the rest u leave alone and will remain as was before an OS upgrade.

Depending on what you have now you probably want to upgrade the radio.
Not only will get better data connections as well as less problems.
But some WM6 things like the connection Icons require radio 1.27 or higher to work properly.

Ok. Thanks guys. I'll give that a go. The only concern I had was using a radio or OS version that locked out BBC. I have read the other users lost BBC connectivity after upgrading their OS to WM6. I would like to use the lastest radio versions for the improvment as long as they don't kill my BBC.
Thanks again for all of your responses.

BBC
try this maybe working for you

@EH
I am running WM6 v.21 and my radio, etc. is as in my sig. BBConnect was (briefly) an issue with WM6 on v.1, but since the update to .21 and the hacked BBConnect (also listed on the initial post) it works a treat.
Hope this helps - feel free to PM if you have any questions

paul_o said:
@EH
I am running WM6 v.21 and my radio, etc. is as in my sig. BBConnect was (briefly) an issue with WM6 on v.1, but since the update to .21 and the hacked BBConnect (also listed on the initial post) it works a treat.
Hope this helps - feel free to PM if you have any questions
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Thanks! Can you tell me what you mean by the "hacked BBConnect"?

@EH - sorry, I mean v.21 is hacked for BBConnect.
I run BBConnect client 2.1.2.31, but I also believe you can run .52 (someone correct me?). I had to dig around for .31 (.exe file, got it on local PC, so could email) but you can get .52 from the FTP on here.
Here's a link to a BBConnect thread that may help:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=294218

Ok. Cool. Could you email that to me? I am running .52 but it won't start. Also, I assume by v.21 you are using the WMXL v.21 or am I off on that? My email is [email protected]. Thanks again for your help.

I am also using BBConnect client v 2.1.2.31, works like a charm.

Well, I guess I'm beat. I have installed:
WXML v.20
Radio: 1.33.31.00
Rom Version: 3.22.110.1
Can't get it to work. :-(
Jakirkla: What version of BBConnect are you using?

Ok. I'm just freaking excited now! I did this reg edit that I found posted in another thread. It was in the LSVW build but I used it on the WMXL build and it worked. Not only that, but previously, my BBC would disconnect while I used the web, messaging, etc. And I had to wait awhile for the BBC to reconnect after the browsing was done. NOW, however, they are running simulatinously over the 3G network. The BBC icon stay completed connected and I receive mail WHILE web surfing. This was what I did.
Changed HKLM\System\Versions and edit the Aku string from .0.0.0 to .2.3.0
Restarted Hermes (holding power button)
Installed BBC 2.1.2.54
Install Blackberry Desktop 2.1.1.21 (for BES users)
Forgive me if this is old news but I haven't seen or heard of this working before. I'm so excited that I can seem to have BOTH services running now and on WM6. I'd like to thank everyone again for their reponses.

Hermes exclusive???
Hi man,
The ability to use both BB service and browse the internet is exclusive on the Hermes (because of HW capabilities) or can it be done in other PPCs?
I had never heard of such a thing until now!!! I am impressed...

evilhomer said:
Well, I guess I'm beat. I have installed:
WXML v.20
Radio: 1.33.31.00
Rom Version: 3.22.110.1
Can't get it to work. :-(
Jakirkla: What version of BBConnect are you using?
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HAve you looked in the extras section for WMXL?? There is a version of BBC in there, I dont use it so im not sure if it will work but that is the one most people are using in WMXL, as said before the CE build version in WMXL v0.2.x was modded to allow for BBC to work?!

Flashing back to wm5?

How would I go about flashing my phone back to wm5? Or should I? I never really used wm5 and went straight to wm6. What do you guys think is more buggy? I have a feeling wm6 is or maybe I just need to reinstall it. It nothing specific just random bugs like sometimes the screen light wont turn off, memory running out, and just other things that happen. So should i flash to wm5 or reflash wm6 in hopes of having it fix issues.

Stay with WM6. It rocks. There are fixes for just about everything, you just have to look around a little.
Sounds to me like you hard a bad install and something went wrong. I would re-install the WM6 ROM from TMO here --> http://www.t-mobile.com/wmupgrade/
After you install (W/O memory card installed) it go here --->http://howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1160147
Hope this helps.

So what exactly does having the memory card out do when your installing? Ill do a reinstall when I get home.

Not sure but I've read that many people choose to do a clean install without anything extra like storage cards installed. Something about an endless reboot loop. There's a big thread about in on HOFO.

May i ask what the Pros and Cons for both WM5 and WM6 ROMS are?

oldsap said:
May i ask what the Pros and Cons for both WM5 and WM6 ROMS are?
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you're kidding right?

lafester said:
you're kidding right?
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hahaha no sir. I have just ordered my DASH and while reading through the threads, ive seen lots of bugs, etc when WM6 ROM is used.
By pros and cons, i meant the essential performance of the unit when using WM5 or WM6, like battery life, speed, etc

people freak out when they upgrade and think everything is going to be the same as wm5 only better. there are very few real bugs in wm6 and those have all been fixed here.
there are still some apps that don't work but there's nothing we can do about that. i'm sure the devs will update their products soon.
speed is slightly faster but everything else is about the same performance wise. i actually have a little more memory with wm6 then i did with wm5 but programs still leak so its best to keep them closed.
all the other enhancements make it a no brainer to upgrade especially if you are just getting it and haven't loaded it up with apps and tweaks already.

thank you lafester for the quick reply

I'm staying with WM5 for the simple fact that I still have "voice tags" !!
does anyone knows if there exist a Widcom stack to hack over the MS stack ??? simply for more BT profiles ??? I also own the Axim X51V and having the Widcom stack rules !!! MS BT stack is the pit !!!

lafester said:
i actually have a little more memory with wm6 then i did with wm5 but programs still leak so its best to keep them closed.
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???
comparing the 2 ROMs ( HTC WM5 for S620 & WM6 T-mobile )
HTC S620 = 23+ MB
T-Mobile = 19 + MB
this is after a fresh ROM upgrade/downgrade ... from rogers S621.
how did you get more ????
I do agreed however ... that WM6 is a little zippier

maybe because i have the dash so we are comparing different starting roms.

ive read somewhere that there is a built in IM for yahoo,etc in WM5 ROM. If this is true, is it also available in WM6 ROM?

oldsap said:
ive read somewhere that there is a built in IM for yahoo,etc in WM5 ROM. If this is true, is it also available in WM6 ROM?
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yep but it doesn't connect over wifi, I think it might be designed to only use GPRS so t-mobile can make revenue from it.

Anyone know how to manually remove all the t-mobile programs from the dash? Mine is only sim unlocked but not cid so I can't install the HTC S620 rom.

how do you flash back to wm5 i have problems with wm6

iba12345 said:
how do you flash back to wm5 i have problems with wm6
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the same way you would with WM6 ... only this time use the HTC S620 WM5 ROM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=288230

this is kinda OT here but may i ask which WM5 ROM is the best with regards to speed, ease of use, memory? DopodAsia/T-Mo/HTC?

WM6 Remote Desktop CAB ??

Hi all,
In WM5 I had the terminal services option which I used to connect to my PC. Upgarded my Orbit using the O2 WM6 (standard) update and now dont have that option. I've done a bit of digging and found WM6 Pro has Remote Desktop. Does anyone know if there is a CAB for this or if the WM5 TS will work on WM6 standard.
Not really interested in 3rd party SW as I know this has been discussed in other parts of Forum.
Cheers...........Gilgamesh

Gilgamesh1066 said:
Does anyone know if there is a CAB for this or if the WM5 TS will work on WM6 standard.
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Maybe this one will work for you ?

petervbeck said:
Maybe this one will work for you ?
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Thanks a bunch

Somebody pls help!!

Ive had my Touch HD for about 4 months now and its starting to loose its mind. The vibration only works sometimes for a few mins and then it stops, its gone really slow and freezes aswell. I am on the verge of selling it and gettin a Blackberry or the nokia e71. Is there anyone who can change my mind and help me with the problems? It would be greatly appreciated as the first few months i thought it was the best phone i ever had!

did you try to hard reset or flash a new rom ??

darkhalf520 said:
did you try to hard reset or flash a new rom ??
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I have done a hard reset and it didnt help. But I have not flashed the rom. I dont even know how to do it. Do you think that it will help?

Yes it will. Follow this:
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298613
OmZ said:
I have done a hard reset and it didnt help. But I have not flashed the rom. I dont even know how to do it. Do you think that it will help?
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metalbrother said:
Yes it will. Follow this:
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Will this fix the vibration problem as well because I dont really wanna spend alot of time changing the rom and then I either end up with a bricked device or still have the same issue. Just on the phone to orange now see if they can exchange my handset even though i have had it for 4 months now. wish me luck...

Orange is sending me a new handset tomorrow so hopefully that will fix the problem. They have advised me not to install any 3rd party software for a few days which should not be a big problem. But i was also told that if i experience any other problems on 2 more occasions that I would be able to change my handset for another model which is good customer service
Anyway now that i AM gettin a new touch hd, can anyone of the "senior" members of this forum give me their list of programs installed which have not caused the phone to slow down? I already know of fingerkeyboard, smschat (or smiley sms) and coreplayer. But I still am in need of a good gps software and the upgrade to TF3D v2 or v3 and a gd application to tilt the screen into landscape mode. Any help is much appreciated!

I have been using my HD for a while have not flashed any new ROM's but do have quite a list of 3rd party Windows Mobile software I use on it all working nicely.
Many of my applications are not freeware though, bought over the years as I'm a long time Windows Mobile user.
In my opinion you do not need to flash the ROM to still take advantage of your great HD
My applications include:
Pocket Informant
Resco Utility Pack
Softmaker Office Suite
SPB time
SPB Traveller
SPB Mobile Shell (plus the omnia SPB Skins skinning tool)
SPB Brain Evolution
SPB Finance
SPB Wallet
SPB weather
Pocket Investor
GarminXT GPS
MSS Converter
Phatnotes for MS Outlook
Skype
GSen
LockmeLite
SKTools
Sprite Backup
Finger Keyboard
Google Maps
HD Tweak
PocketMusic
Cheers
Ed

ednap said:
I have been using my HD for a while have not flashed any new ROM's but do have quite a list of 3rd party Windows Mobile software I use on it all working nicely.
Many of my applications are not freeware though, bought over the years as I'm a long time Windows Mobile user.
In my opinion you do not need to flash the ROM to still take advantage of your great HD
My applications include:
Pocket Informant
Resco Utility Pack
Softmaker Office Suite
SPB time
SPB Traveller
SPB Mobile Shell (plus the omnia SPB Skins skinning tool)
SPB Brain Evolution
SPB Finance
SPB Wallet
SPB weather
Pocket Investor
GarminXT GPS
MSS Converter
Phatnotes for MS Outlook
Skype
GSen
LockmeLite
SKTools
Sprite Backup
Finger Keyboard
Google Maps
HD Tweak
PocketMusic
Cheers
Ed
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thanks alot....could you tell which are freeware as this is my first WM device and also how to upgrade to TF3D v3? thank you.

OmZ said:
thanks alot....could you tell which are freeware as this is my first WM device and also how to upgrade to TF3D v3? thank you.
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Why don't you upgrade the stock firmware first to the new 1.56 and new 1.13 radio, supposed to fix a lot of issues and give better battery life / gps signal.

Is that the 1 from the HTC website? cos when i entered my serial number last time it said that the upgrade was not available for me so i assume that i already had the latest version...
EDIT: Dont you just love orange? I have just received my replacement and it is a generic handset. hehehe

Hello omz
To check your rom version start/settings/system/device information with the phone being 4 months old it will more than likely have version 1.14, the latest version 1.56 from htc.com is only available for sim free phones i.e. it was purchased with out a contract. As mentioned else where on this forum, providers like Orange etc will take a few months with there update if they bother at all. If they don’t your other option will be to either flash with a custom rom loads on this site or see if some one will send you there official rom. Software, video convertor http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=474955 this is excellent, screen rotation I like this one http://idevelopstuff.com/dev/WM/Fuze...creen_inst.cab but there is also gyrator, satnav TomTom 7.915 works a treat on these phones. You might also be interested in this app http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=452505 hope this helps Jez