Softbank MMSLite + WM6.1 = sadness FIXED - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development

THIS PROBLEM HAS BEEN SOLVED BY MMSLITE BUILD303
SEE POST 135: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2390456&postcount=135
Problem:
MMSLite does not work on the new WM6.1 ROMs
It installs with no problem, but then in the Messaging screen there is no MMS account.
Looking at the RASBook in the registry, it seems that the hidden connection necessary is being created. Also other registry entries connected to MMSLite seem to be okay.
History:
MMSLite is a program used to access (Japanese provider) Softbank's special push mail system.
Previous versions of MMSLite have automatically created a MMS account and the connection necessary to access this account.
This same problem happened with some WM6 ROMs that had the dual SMS/MMS account cooked-in.
Questions:
Does anyone know how to fix this? (Wouldn't that be nice.)
Who is the creator of MMSLite and how can I contact him/her?
How has the structure of the Messaging application changed in 6.1?
Have other MMS-related applications been affected by changes in 6.1?

The file "cemail.vol" can't be modified may cause MMSLite don't working.
And it cause spb backup fails to restore the messages.
It happens on some of the WM6.1 Roms, but the first one (WM6.1 from the Vietnamese BBS).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=362846
I have tried many method to delete the file but failed.

Need the answers too.
Anybody tested the "Softbank Mail" app on WM6.1?

shilei7899 said:
Need the answers too.
Anybody tested the "Softbank Mail" app on WM6.1?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I gave up on that Softbank Mail app. It was slow and cumbersome. Personally, I would rather not be able to access MMS than use that software.

larsuck said:
I gave up on that Softbank Mail app. It was slow and cumbersome. Personally, I would rather not be able to access MMS than use that software.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Agree. Using Softbank Mail is really a pain.
Seems the app "DRAW" everything on the screen instead of using controls.
Maybe that's the reason why it's soooooooooooooo slow.
However, I will give it a try on this weekend.

Good News
I just tried Pays WWE215 Full(+ Askal e-chinaV62 No.5 + Ask IME_31J), MMLite is works fine.
I think softbank mail should work on this rom too.
Sorry I am wrong. This rom uses Big Storage ROM v3.62.
Will try another soon.

larsuck said:
I gave up on that Softbank Mail app. It was slow and cumbersome. Personally, I would rather not be able to access MMS than use that software.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Totally agree a soft like (MMLite + EMOJI) would be wonderfull.

I've got a method of seeing emoji, but they are in black and white. Check here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=288136&page=9
Be sure to read to page 10 as there is an easy .cab file.

larsuck said:
Problem:
MMSLite does not work on the new WM6.1 ROMs
It installs with no problem, but then in the Messaging screen there is no MMS account.
Looking at the RASBook in the registry, it seems that the hidden connection necessary is being created. Also other registry entries connected to MMSLite seem to be okay.
History:
MMSLite is a program used to access (Japanese provider) Softbank's special push mail system.
Previous versions of MMSLite have automatically created a MMS account and the connection necessary to access this account.
This same problem happened with some WM6 ROMs that had the dual SMS/MMS account cooked-in.
Questions:
Does anyone know how to fix this? (Wouldn't that be nice.)
Who is the creator of MMSLite and how can I contact him/her?
How has the structure of the Messaging application changed in 6.1?
Have other MMS-related applications been affected by changes in 6.1?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Mate, just a note to say it works fine on CRC PHK, the latest version. Like you I had problems on earlier 6.1 roms. The interface is slightly different, but all works. Oh, and MMS/SMS are separate too!

Cedricguo said:
The file "cemail.vol" can't be modified may cause MMSLite don't working.
And it cause spb backup fails to restore the messages.
It happens on some of the WM6.1 Roms, but the first one (WM6.1 from the Vietnamese BBS).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=362846
I have tried many method to delete the file but failed.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
BOMB! So anything based on the PDAViet ROM is cool it seems. I tried Pandora's version 13.5 and have MMSLite running.
Edit: NO BOMB! Spoke too soon.

So roms in this forum used another base rom.
Just tested Pays ROM Full - WM6.1 WWE with Big Storage RC2. MMLite don't work. Softbank mail works fine.

larsuck said:
I've got a method of seeing emoji, but they are in black and white. Check here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=288136&page=9
Be sure to read to page 10 as there is an easy .cab file.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thnaks alot for the info.
Tried the emoji thing, works great for me.
And tried Pandora Kitchen too.
MMLite works, but the file cemail is still locked by some process.
Can't restore from previous backup by SPB Backup,
I do have the memory that saw my restored messages get threaded by the new WM6.1 messeging app. Must be the original VietBBSRom.

So, some ROMS work, some dont.
is there a list of working ROMS?
and how to figure out what version on WM6.1 was used to cook a rom, to make sure it will work with MMSlite?

Tried another
Tried Hermes_ShadoW_2.0_CE(Build 19521.1.1.0) from Cloudyfa, MMLite dosen't work.
But Spb backup does work.
Waiting for a rom to let those two thing both work.

has anyone tested the new Pay's ROM Light\Full version from Feb 11th?
does it work with MMSlite?

It works! had no problems with it so far. 24 hours. Although, his rom seems to be slightly unstable. I have been getitng lots of random hangs with it. Might be due to MMSlite. But atleast it doesn't disappear from the mail selection menu!
Edit: it doesn't work. 24 hours was the limit. Same old problems. See my post 23 below.

tora201 said:
It works! had no problems with it so far. 24 hours. Although, his rom seems to be slightly unstable. I have been getitng lots of random hangs with it. Might be due to MMSlite. But atleast it doesn't disappear from the mail selection menu!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i see. i also had random hangs with previous version.

Current running Faria / Dr Puttingham WM6.1 Collaboration rom.
MMLite works fine. And the rom is fast & stable.

im using pays 6.1 v3.00 rom now and every now and then mms will disappear from the message selection screen. if i soft reset it reappears in the message selection screen.the sent and recieved mails are still there.

HungryHippo said:
im using pays 6.1 v3.00 rom now and every now and then mms will disappear from the message selection screen. if i soft reset it reappears in the message selection screen.the sent and recieved mails are still there.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have observed the same with Pandora Naked 9b1 and have lost emails this way. Not every time, but sometimes when I sent a test mail when MMS had disappeared from the selection screen it never arrived. So be warned, you may miss emails.

Related

Which is the best cooked WM6 version for an Orange SPV M3100

I have looked at the wiki for cooked WM6 ROMs, however I am confused as to which one is best for an Orange SPV M3100?
Do all of these work on the M3100 as some say XDA?
It seems that the vanilla one has a few problems with missing icons, sd card dropping, remote desktop missing, no video calling etc.. Are there specific patches for these problems or do you have to put a different ROM on there?
Thanks
Mark
I'm running WM6 for Hermes LVSW Edition (2007-03-15) (WM6 Pro Style) on my M3100, and it runs really nicely. You can enable the video call skin easily on it. Only thing that doesn't work properly (and is the same on ALL WM6 roms so far) are voicemail notifications - they come through as test messages. Not a big problem though.
I use the same version as above. The black edition does seem a bit faster but it seems to have problems with the latest version of spb weather. LVSW has no problems with this so i would say its the most stable which is a shame, Black Edition just looks so dam sexy. Voicemail notifications are not a problem for me because I use my device on 3 UK who sent a text for voicemails anyway.
Just remember if you decide to take the plunge to WM6:
Goodlink will only work on WMXL v.20/.21
You must have Activesync 4.5 installed to sync your device
Push email will only work with Exchange 2007
S.K.
silent_killa said:
I use the same version as above. The black edition does seem a bit faster but it seems to have problems with the latest version of spb weather. LVSW has no problems with this so i would say its the most stable which is a shame, Black Edition just looks so dam sexy. Voicemail notifications are not a problem for me because I use my device on 3 UK who sent a text for voicemails anyway.
Just remember if you decide to take the plunge to WM6:
Goodlink will only work on WMXL v.20/.21
You must have Activesync 4.5 installed to sync your device
Push email will only work with Exchange 2007
S.K.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
HI guys,
the problems are being sorted out as we speak, hang in there, soon there will be a v1.2 with no probs with spb
silent_killa said:
I use the same version as above. The black edition does seem a bit faster but it seems to have problems with the latest version of spb weather. LVSW has no problems with this so i would say its the most stable which is a shame, Black Edition just looks so dam sexy. Voicemail notifications are not a problem for me because I use my device on 3 UK who sent a text for voicemails anyway.
Just remember if you decide to take the plunge to WM6:
Goodlink will only work on WMXL v.20/.21
You must have Activesync 4.5 installed to sync your device
Push email will only work with Exchange 2007
S.K.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I beg to differ on the exchange 2007 bit, my push email is working fine and we use Exchange 2003 SP2 at my work.
I'm running the WMXL on an Orange SPV M3100 and it runs fine! The push mail is working with an Exchange 2003 SP2 server, and it works except for the HTML. If you want HTML and push mail with Exchange, you need Exchange 2007.
Is it possible to apply all changes/differences to the Vanilla version that exist in the LVSW version or do you have to blast the phone away and start again?
Thanks
Black Edition has problems while putting device on sleep
call accept and call disconnect many times keep lit
also I had alarm fire up failure
It's trully a FAST release but I think It eats up battery much more faster
WMXL if the stablest I've used till now
with no major problems ...
PLEASE to all Cookers
REMOVE the nifty Registry editor
The Included Task manager already has THE BEST Registry manager I've ever seen that has the ability to search, Import and export.
It's trully amazing software!
also Please do your best to If possible to optimize ROM
so as at end of customization the free RAM count to be around 29~30MB...
I would go with Black Edition..Very Quick.
Orange SPV M3100 and LVSW WM6 Pro even for me.....really stable and clean rom!....give it a try ;-)
I am currently running the WM6 Black Edition and so far I like this WM6 ROM the most. It really works quickly and is stable for me...this is the most important feature!
My only issues with it are that Spb Pocket Plus cannot be installed and that sometimes TomTom 6 does not see the maps on the storage card. The TomTom issue can be solved by simply removing and inserting the memory card. The Pocket Plus issue is going to continue for a while. However, there is not much you could miss from that with WM6 and all that is included.
The LVSW version from 3/13 was excellent as well. It did not have any of the problems I mentioned and was almost as quick. It uses the old WM5 dialer in the phone though. Both perform the same function but in the Black Edition it just looks better.
So far I am not sure which is BEST, but the LVSW version never gave me a problem. The Black Edition has shown to little issues, as I mentioned, but it is quicker and looks much better.
I don't know why someone said that Voicemail notifications arrive as text messages. On my phone, with all of the ROMs I have used, they arrive as normal with the VoiceMail icon in the top bar.
silent_killa said:
I use the same version as above. The black edition does seem a bit faster but it seems to have problems with the latest version of spb weather. LVSW has no problems with this so i would say its the most stable which is a shame, Black Edition just looks so dam sexy. Voicemail notifications are not a problem for me because I use my device on 3 UK who sent a text for voicemails anyway.
Just remember if you decide to take the plunge to WM6:
Goodlink will only work on WMXL v.20/.21
You must have Activesync 4.5 installed to sync your device
Push email will only work with Exchange 2007
S.K.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Push email works fine from exchange 2003 sp2 with the black edition 1.1

Skype on original rom WM5 not supported ?

Hi all,
I tried skype mobile version on my trinity, i see my contacts and they are able to call me to. but wenn i try to answers the call the phone keeps ringing. I search this forum but see a lot of thing for wm6. I want to stay on WM5 untill WM6 rom works 100 %. I went to skype to see the P3600 is supported en it seem the processor's not ? How can i get this to work ? I don't need skype any other voip program is good. The only thing i need is when at home i'd like to change or add a profile so i could call my home when i'm not in my country. Maybe some answers are abouvious for some guy of you but sorry i'm kind of new with this stuff.
tnx
I tried skype as well, when we where using cooked roms for wm5 and it worked fine.
Another program that also worked fine is SJ phone, but I don;t know any good internet voip servers
I can install SKYPE 2.2 on my Dopod D810. Once I try to login, everything alright, but it get restart when accepting any incoming call.
Skype chat ok. Calls do not work
I finally installed skype on my SPV M700, but it cannot make/receive calls.
Can anyone help?
Thanks
Raffavito
I read somewhere that skype 2.2 does not support calling functions... what you need is skype2.2 beta... I guess you would need to search for that....cos I can't remember where I found it... the problem I have is that I can't seem to run that cab file under mun's rom. it says application not found for cab... anybody can help on that? is there a zip application I need to install or something?
Skype 2.0 works on trinity WM5
Hi
I had the same problems with the last version of Skype.
I found on Emule the version Skype Mobile v2.0.0.51 and it works ok.
If you need it send me an e-mail to raveiga32 at gmail dot com and I will send you this version.
Good luck
Try this one:
http://rapidshare.com/files/37248486/SkypeForPocketPC_Beta.CAB.html
It's 2.2.0.18 beta but everything seems to be working fine.
Download link for Skype for Pocket PC version 2.2.0.20.2 Beta is provided at the end of this post. I believe it should work fine for both WM5 and WM6 Trinity ROMs. I say this because it was clearly intended for WM5 but works fine with WM6. At this point I believe this is the most recent version they listed and offered specifically for the P3600.
Those are some curious issues being described! To be honest I had never been the biggest fan of Skype (some disappointing results in the past, plus the lack of outgoing Caller ID - which is finally being partly remedied). I have always prefered SIP for VoIP due to the potential for superior call quality, faxing and many other features that are possible. But the snag has always been that it is hard for SIP to get past blocked ports, firewalls and NAT, unless you have direct admin access to those things. The strength of Skype is that it will simply revert to using TCP web ports if needed so it will always work almost anywhere, even if it sounds awful at times!
All that said, I have found Skype it to be finally working really very well over WiFi on the LVSW 2.0.1.1. WM6 ROM for Trinity. But the version I am using is no longer provided for public download.
My Skype version 2.2.0.20.2 Beta.
When it was available as public download from Skype (really quite recently) it was clearly listed as the right version for the P3600. I notice that it has now been replaced with release version 2.2.0.36 and the nearest compatible phone shown is the P4350.
It seem old versions of Skype can be downloaded from their Developer Zone but it is necessary to sign a Non-disclosure agreement first to get at the old versions. Seems a little over the top if all that is desired is a previous Skype build. I don't want to know their secrets, just be able to get at an older version!
WiFi works great. 3G.... don't bother trying (in my opinion). Doesn't have the Skype to SMS feature but otherwise seems very functional and completely stable.
I hope this is helpful.
Here is a link for a download of the Skype for Pocket PC 2.2.0,20.2 Beta.
http://rapidshare.com/files/37978278/SkypeForPocketPC_2_2_0_20-2_Beta.CAB.html
Edit: BTW I find it works best with echo cancellation on and when used with the headset because otherwise sound comes out of the rear loudspeaker, not the phone speaker.
Would it be possible with the member who has the 2.2.0.51 beta to please put it on Rapidshare or elsewhere so people can get at it easily please? It would be great if we can figure out exactly which build seems best for the Trinity... might be different for WM5 and WM6 but I suspect the odds are it will be one of these two builds. All the best
Scratch that last bit. I misread the post. It was the 2.0.0.51 beta previously mentioned... older than mine not newer. Sorry for my mistake. My guess is that the 2.2.0.20.2 Beta I have linked above is probably going to be best. Good luck!
Sorry to bump the post. Did some research.... well more like just a lot of reading on the Skype website! The current official Skype Mobile Gold Release 2.2 (non-beta) has a list of phones which are now ONLY supported for text chat.
I am both surprised and dsisapointed to say that BOTH the Trinity and TyTN are specially listed as now being only capable of text chat.
The last Beta version of 2.2. (Skype for Pocket PC 2.2.0,20.2 Beta) as linked in thre post above, did specifially list the Trinity and TyTN as support for calling. The trinity works wll with that version over WiFi.
So download it, back it up and hang on to it real tight!
Any download problems, please post and I will be happy to upload it again elsewhere. While I do feel very sure this one should be best for WM5 and WM6do please post feedback if that is not the case so we will all the exact sitituation.
Many thanks.
Thank you for the useful info. Using the link you gave,I downloaded the older version of Skype 2.2 to use on my HTC TyTN but it has no exe file and I do not know how to proceed from here. Could you please help.
Just to test the water, I sent an e-mail to Skype asking for the older version but they refused, saying that I should try to get it from some third party !!!!
I am a new member to the forum and am not sure how to operate but I have saved the page as a favourite and hope I can get your reply. Thanks
brianmac said:
Thank you for the useful info. Using the link you gave,I downloaded the older version of Skype 2.2 to use on my HTC TyTN but it has no exe file and I do not know how to proceed from here. Could you please help.
Just to test the water, I sent an e-mail to Skype asking for the older version but they refused, saying that I should try to get it from some third party !!!!
I am a new member to the forum and am not sure how to operate but I have saved the page as a favourite and hope I can get your reply. Thanks
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The linked file... here it is again
http://rapidshare.com/files/37978278/SkypeForPocketPC_2_2_0_20-2_Beta.CAB.html
is not a desktop .exe file. It is a .cab file. Connect your device to your computer then use the Explorer Pocket PC option (may be called something abit different) in ActiveSync or Mobile Manager to move the file onto to your phone. The file has to be moved onto the phone then installed there. You use the File Manager program on the phone to locate it and then double click in it to install.
The phone will see the cab file as installable. To your desktop computer it will appear to be an uninstallable archive only.
In short it is on-device installable only. It is not installed directly from your desktop computer.
Hope this helps
Skype 2.2 on DOPOD 838Pro is CRASHING
After upgrading from Skype WM 2.1 to 2.2, I managed to sign-in but noticed my skype-out account was not recognized (no credits were shown) nor did I succeed to make the echo call. Skype just crashed! When I followed the link to activate my skype-out, I got a "page not found" message!. Since I knew I had credits available, I then tried to call using the dial and it crashed as well! This is serious as I had install an old version 2.0.0.39 because my previous version 2.1 was overwritten by the new executable that I downloaded!
BEWARE OF INSTALLATION ON ANY HERMES100 DEVICE
MCEITLIN said:
After upgrading from Skype WM 2.1 to 2.2, I managed to sign-in but noticed my skype-out account was not recognized (no credits were shown) nor did I succeed to make the echo call. Skype just crashed! When I followed the link to activate my skype-out, I got a "page not found" message!. Since I knew I had credits available, I then tried to call using the dial and it crashed as well! This is serious as I had install an old version 2.0.0.39 because my previous version 2.1 was overwritten by the new executable that I downloaded!
BEWARE OF INSTALLATION ON ANY HERMES100 DEVICE
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sounds very frustrating. Please would you share exactly which version works for you and which caused the big problems? Any numbers involved after 2.1 and 2.2 and is this beta or release versions? Clearly this is tricky stuff, so the more exact info we can share the more it may help people. Perhaps we should also try to track the exact ROM version of our phones which work and don't with Skype versions so we can kind of build a little knowledge base for ourselves.
Also, was this over WiFi or 3G? I am wondering if the Page not found could be a DNS issue occuring which may be complicating factor.
Good luck!
p3600 or p4350 for best skype experience
whats the best phone for a better skype experience?
tapan
firiel said:
I tried skype as well, when we where using cooked roms for wm5 and it worked fine.
Another program that also worked fine is SJ phone, but I don;t know any good internet voip servers
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hi.
I use www.voipcheap.com as my voip provider and to me it rocks,I call Spain and other countries in Europe for a really nice rate and I live in USA.
Take a look at some destinations,because it´s free.
You can also use www.voipstunt.com and www.voipbuster.com, but like I said voipcheap works great.
Bye guys.

mms on pdaviet tf2d-rom?

has anybody figured out what to do to get a working mms function to the pdaviet tf2d-roms? i currently use v30b, and i tried several versions of arcsoft mms composer on it... but everytime different registry-settings were missing, so for example i was not able to set size limit and so on. when i created the missing entrys manually, i could open mms, but there where no pictures to choose, even on storage card none of my pictures were displayd.. so i tried to send an mms just with text, but nothing happened... mms still stayed in the outbox.. on other versions of arcsoft i jus didn't come that far... i was not able to create a new account on some versions... so maybe something basicly on rom is missing to install mms???
The lastest rom tf2d PDAVIET are all without mms and not only...
no Windows live,no browser,etc..
yes, that's claer, but all of them can be installed after flashing the roms. browser etc. and so mms, too. but mms i can't get to work! google maps runs, opera too and so on... but no matter, what version of arcsoft mms is installed, it never work on this roms... anybody else an idea, why???
Yes,but after to have put within browser, mms, youtube and google maps the device not it moves more..!!This is the problem.
However test to install an other cab for the mms.
Try this:
http://rapidshare.com/files/149970597/ArcsoftMMS_ver5.0.cab.html
thanks, will try that!
for your other post: i have to say that my orbit is unexpected fast and stable also with these (and other) apps on it! manila runs perfect, google maps work great, destinator 6 too, all my other apps needed do so... expect mms (till now..)
couldn't get to work either... now i'm on yue's m2d rom and it's nearly perfect! but thank you for your advise!
Anyone get any joy with mms yet ?
This is stopping probs the best rom yet

Override HTC SMS with WM SMS?

The question I have is that when clicking on the message preview or when clicking on "Send Message" from the contact details screen, is there a way to default to using the WM messaging instead of HTC's? I much prefer the threading of WM as it's quicker and not sluggish. My sig has my current phone specs.
Thanks!
Demonic240 said:
The question I have is that when clicking on the message preview or when clicking on "Send Message" from the contact details screen, is there a way to default to using the WM messaging instead of HTC's? I much prefer the threading of WM as it's quicker and not sluggish. My sig has my current phone specs.
Thanks!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Give this cab a try, I think it's what you're looking for...it disables the HTC SMS interface. You'll still have the "messaging" tab in TF3D/Sense, but when you select a message on that tab, it will go straight to the WM interface.
sirphunkee said:
Give this cab a try, I think it's what you're looking for...it disables the HTC SMS interface. You'll still have the "messaging" tab in TF3D/Sense, but when you select a message on that tab, it will go straight to the WM interface.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for the advice. I installed the .cab and did a soft reset but it's still popping up with the HTC SMS interface for messages
-Not sure if the NGR ROM is preventing the .cab from working.
Demonic240 said:
Thanks for the advice. I installed the .cab and did a soft reset but it's still popping up with the HTC SMS interface for messages
-Not sure if the NGR ROM is preventing the .cab from working.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's possible, I'm honestly just running the stock tmo ROM (6.1), so the issue could just be 6.1 vs 6.5. I have seen other cabs on here that do the same thing, they might be 6.5-compatible. I don't have any of the others anymore or I'd just post them here for you. I'm pretty sure I found them just by searching "disable HTC SMS"
Would also be interested in getting the original Winmo interface working for 6.5, the sense messaging app is craptastic!
Still haven't had any luck with this yet. I tried installing the Zeyene cab but that didn't fix anything. I then installed the SMS cab that NRG provides with his ROM, but that's just a different skin and was just as slow as the HTC SMS.
Demonic240 said:
Still haven't had any luck with this yet. I tried installing the Zeyene cab but that didn't fix anything. I then installed the SMS cab that NRG provides with his ROM, but that's just a different skin and was just as slow as the HTC SMS.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah, that's the other one I've used, and I know it works on 6.1, but I can't say for 6.5...either the HTC messaging module is different in 6.5, or just accessed differently by the system.
sirphunkee said:
Yeah, that's the other one I've used, and I know it works on 6.1, but I can't say for 6.5...either the HTC messaging module is different in 6.5, or just accessed differently by the system.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well Zeyeene claims to be for 2.5. I've got a registry editor on my phone so if anyone knows a registry fix for this then by all means, do tell
Just checking to see if anyone's thought up anything on this yet.
I like Windows Mobile, and I like TouchFlo3D. However, I do not like that fact that the built in HTC SMS is slow as dirt. Any time I try and message someone with the HTC sms it makes my phone crawl. When I use the WM version it works much faster and I like the way it looks more. Does anyone know of a ROM that fixes this?
So apparently I've been wrong with my terminology here. I believe what I should be describing is to over ride the manilla sms application with the HTC one... But perhaps someone more knowledgeable can help me out with the terms.
anyone figure this out for wm 6.5? the modified 47dd6acd_manila worked on 6.1 but it does nothing on 6.5.. seems htc changed the filename.
i hate this laggy htc sense sms..
Bump this... please someone.
with sense 2.5...
the messager is actually HTC Message Client.
an overlay of HTC Message.
i am not sure of a cab that disables it.
but i know there are custom roms that do not include it.
those roms have the same messenger as sense 2.1 roms.
hope that helps. somehow.
in the quest for a fix.
I am looking for this fix still as well...someone please update if a fix is found. Energy July 1 ROM Does not have HTC Messenger built in...I however find Energy ROMS unreliable--so it wont work for me.
The only thing that works for me is removing text messages from TouchFlo then creating a shortcut to the text app.
Not that it's just slow the send button is in a different location using the Windows or HTC messaging. Sometimes I end up hitting back instead of send because I didn't notice which interface I was in.
bump. what is the text app?
pigphish said:
bump. what is the text app?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It is just the shortcut in programs for text messages it just takes you to the default WM text messenger program.
Did you try this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=556614
It's for the touch HD but tp2's quite similar.
Would love to know how to disable landscape mode in the messaging app I find the flip between modes is way to slow.
I would love a fix for this. I hate HTC Messenger so much, and I don't want to have to flash to a different ROM :/

[Q] Vito SMS-Chat and ExtremeText Programs / Compatible with Tilt 2 WM 6.5 HTC Sense?

Hi there,
I've recently downloaded both Vito's SMS-Chat and Birdsoft's Extreme Text programs as possible alternative text-messaging clients. I have a Tilt 2 phone running on Windows Mobile 6.5 - with the most recent upgrade provided on the HTC Web site. (My phone runs on HTC Sense, for example.) I'm having a problem with both of these text-messaging programs. Both programs install successfully on my phone, and both programs show sent and received messages that have been initiated by using the default SMS client; however, when using either SMS-Chat or Extreme Text, I am UNABLE TO SEND a text message. In the threaded-messaging windows, they will list the messages that I have written - but the messages don't actually get sent. Are these two programs incompatible with the Tilt 2 phone running on the upgraded WM 6.5 / HTC Sense? Is there anything that I could do to get these programs to work? I find the default HTC Sense messaging client to be slow and cumbersome. Thanks for whatever advice that anyone could provide. I noticed that someone else had posted a question similar to this one - regarding SMS-Chat only - but a solution didn't appear to be listed in that thread. Also, since my question is with regard to both of these text-messaging programs, I decided to begin a new thread. Thanks again.
DD7374 said:
Hi there,
I've recently downloaded both Vito's SMS-Chat and Birdsoft's Extreme Text programs as possible alternative text-messaging clients. I have a Tilt 2 phone running on Windows Mobile 6.5 - with the most recent upgrade provided on the HTC Web site. (My phone runs on HTC Sense, for example.) I'm having a problem with both of these text-messaging programs. Both programs install successfully on my phone, and both programs show sent and received messages that have been initiated by using the default SMS client; however, when using either SMS-Chat or Extreme Text, I am UNABLE TO SEND a text message. In the threaded-messaging windows, they will list the messages that I have written - but the messages don't actually get sent. Are these two programs incompatible with the Tilt 2 phone running on the upgraded WM 6.5 / HTC Sense? Is there anything that I could do to get these programs to work? I find the default HTC Sense messaging client to be slow and cumbersome. Thanks for whatever advice that anyone could provide. I noticed that someone else had posted a question similar to this one - regarding SMS-Chat only - but a solution didn't appear to be listed in that thread. Also, since my question is with regard to both of these text-messaging programs, I decided to begin a new thread. Thanks again.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Why aren't you asking this question on Vito's or Birdsoft's website? This would be a support question for them to answer. Most of us use Arksoft messenger or some other included one from our ROMs. If the program isn't compatible with your device, then they should offer you a refund.
EDIT: After looking at both websites, it appears that SMS Chat is compatible with WM versions 5, 6.0, and 6.1. Extreme Text is listed as compatible with 6.0, 6.1, and 6.5.
Arcsoft and the Tilt 2 running WM 6.5 with HTC Sense
cajunflavoredbob said:
Why aren't you asking this question on Vito's or Birdsoft's website? This would be a support question for them to answer. Most of us use Arksoft messenger or some other included one from our ROMs. If the program isn't compatible with your device, then they should offer you a refund.
EDIT: After looking at both websites, it appears that SMS Chat is compatible with WM versions 5, 6.0, and 6.1. Extreme Text is listed as compatible with 6.0, 6.1, and 6.5.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks a lot for the advice. I contacted both Vito's and Birdsoft's customer-service departments; I'm just waiting for a response from each. Thanks, too, for taking the time to research the WM versions with which these two programs are compatible.
I tried to install Arcsoft, the program to which you referred. My phone indicated that the program installed successfully; but I cannot see the icon, nor can I find it anywhere in any of the directories. I installed a "security policy lifter" cab, too, which I found mentioned somewhere in this forum. Evidently, that little cab is to be installed before Arcsoft is. Anyway, do you have any ideas why this isn't working for me? If you do and if you have a moment, please pass them along. Thanks again for the response.
DD7374 said:
Thanks a lot for the advice. I contacted both Vito's and Birdsoft's customer-service departments; I'm just waiting for a response from each. Thanks, too, for taking the time to research the WM versions with which these two programs are compatible.
I tried to install Arcsoft, the program to which you referred. My phone indicated that the program installed successfully; but I cannot see the icon, nor can I find it anywhere in any of the directories. I installed a "security policy lifter" cab, too, which I found mentioned somewhere in this forum. Evidently, that little cab is to be installed before Arcsoft is. Anyway, do you have any ideas why this isn't working for me? If you do and if you have a moment, please pass them along. Thanks again for the response.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If you use a stock ROM, meaning a ROM image that the device came with or an upgrade from your carrier or HTC, then you will need the security policy lifter installed beforehand. This will lift the restrictions on your device for modifying the system files that Arksoft messenger changes. If you are running a custom ROM, then you should not need that cab at all as this change will already be cooked in.
Make sure that you install the WVGA version of the cab file. This is the resolution that the Rhodium (Touch Pro2) uses, which is 480x800.
Arksoft Messenger is meant to replace the default HTC messenger. There should not be any icons or Start Menu links for you to open. The application is meant to stand in the place of HTC Messenger wherever that application would have opened.
The only other thing I can think of is to remove both of those programs and then install sdkcerts. I've attached that file for your reference. Once that installs, soft reset your device and then install Arksoft. If that doesn't work, (keep in mind that it replaces HTC Messenger) then maybe try out a custom ROM or something that has it cooked in already.
Arcsoft and the Tilt 2 WM 6.5 with HTC Sense / Vito SMS-Chat / Extreme Text
cajunflavoredbob said:
If you use a stock ROM, meaning a ROM image that the device came with or an upgrade from your carrier or HTC, then you will need the security policy lifter installed beforehand. This will lift the restrictions on your device for modifying the system files that Arksoft messenger changes. If you are running a custom ROM, then you should not need that cab at all as this change will already be cooked in.
Make sure that you install the WVGA version of the cab file. This is the resolution that the Rhodium (Touch Pro2) uses, which is 480x800.
Arksoft Messenger is meant to replace the default HTC messenger. There should not be any icons or Start Menu links for you to open. The application is meant to stand in the place of HTC Messenger wherever that application would have opened.
The only other thing I can think of is to remove both of those programs and then install sdkcerts. I've attached that file for your reference. Once that installs, soft reset your device and then install Arksoft. If that doesn't work, (keep in mind that it replaces HTC Messenger) then maybe try out a custom ROM or something that has it cooked in already.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for your thorough response and for the time that you took in compiling this information. I've already done everything that you suggested, though, and I've even contacted Vito's and Extreme Text's support teams... but to no avail. Neither has replied. With regard to Arcsoft Messenger, I tried just as you suggested; but that didn't work. I think, at this point, I should just let it go. Looking for a "cooked" or custom ROM might be a bit beyond my scope of knowledge. I imagine that I'd have to do a hard reset as well - not something that I enjoy! If you could think of anything else, by all means let me know! Otherwise, thanks again for lending your expertise and patience. I appreciate it.
DD7374 said:
Thanks for your thorough response and for the time that you took in compiling this information. I've already done everything that you suggested, though, and I've even contacted Vito's and Extreme Text's support teams... but to no avail. Neither has replied. With regard to Arcsoft Messenger, I tried just as you suggested; but that didn't work. I think, at this point, I should just let it go. Looking for a "cooked" or custom ROM might be a bit beyond my scope of knowledge. I imagine that I'd have to do a hard reset as well - not something that I enjoy! If you could think of anything else, by all means let me know! Otherwise, thanks again for lending your expertise and patience. I appreciate it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The first flash can be a bit daunting, but it gets easier with time. Hard resets and flashes can be prepared for by the numerous backup applications available. Microsoft Myphone will backup all of your personal information for you. Any programs you have installed from the marketplace can be re-downloaded. Any applications you've installed in any other fashion can be backed up and then reinstalled. Once you get the knack for flashing, it is a simple task to learn how to automate the flashing process so that everything installs and restores itself automatically. Most all current ROMs for the Rhodium will use a different messenger program than the HTC one.
cajunflavoredbob said:
The first flash can be a bit daunting, but it gets easier with time. Hard resets and flashes can be prepared for by the numerous backup applications available. Microsoft Myphone will backup all of your personal information for you. Any programs you have installed from the marketplace can be re-downloaded. Any applications you've installed in any other fashion can be backed up and then reinstalled. Once you get the knack for flashing, it is a simple task to learn how to automate the flashing process so that everything installs and restores itself automatically. Most all current ROMs for the Rhodium will use a different messenger program than the HTC one.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sorry for the delay in my response... Thanks very much for your insights and expertise. I will give your suggestions a try!

Categories

Resources