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There are lots of people who use black and are huge fans. For the sake of good order would it be better to have its own forums even for each release to have their own forums?
That way instead of having a single thread with 750ish posts to read, it could be ordered nicely with a seperate thread for bug posts, feature requests, compliments, etc.
omfg. Are you nuts...
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omfg. Are you nuts...
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Well said
used to hear about leaving the moderation to the moderators.. does it need to be spelled out that we ought to leave the administration to the admin/s?
..bro..if u have a suggestion..why not forward a PM to the admin/mod.. but then again, it's a free world ..my 2cents worth..
So much love in this thread...
I think it's a good idea. Actually all the production WM6 ROMs could have their own subforums. It would be a lot easier for everyone to find the information they need. Afterall, that's what subforums are for right?
Don't pay attention to the guys above this post...
They're just upset they didn't think of this simple solution first.
(No cookie for you! )
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So much love in this thread...
I think it's a good idea. Actually all the production WM6 ROMs could have their own subforums. It would be a lot easier for everyone to find the information they need. Afterall, that's what subforums are for right?
Don't pay attention to the guys above this post...
They're just upset they didn't think of this simple solution first.
(No cookie for you! )
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A: yes it might be a good idea.
b: even if you lay out a trail of bananas the dumb monkey wont find the tree.
c: im amazed at how folks post issues about roms outside of their threads.
d: there is still going to be users posting romA issues in romB forum
e: CHICKEN IN A BUCKET....
The forum would be much less cluttered if:
a. Unnecessary, irrelevant, duplicated and erroneous posts could be deleted. Happens in other forums to good effect.
b. Posts could be moved to a more appropriate thread. Again, happens in other forums.
c. Flamers would have the balls to PM noobs directly rather than seeking brown-nose points by more than doubling the noob's effect on already burgeoning threads by posting their own replies in addition to the OP's.
d. Everyone use sigs of 1 line or less. This IS a PDA / Smartphone forum!
Apart from that, I think that a more 'user friendly' dynamic Wiki-type sub forum for things like JJ's WM6 would be a good thing, with separate threads for bug reports, congrats, moans and spin-off topics.
This is just retarded, I don't see Faria on the Wizard side with his own forum, and plus what about LVSW...both also quality chefs.
All you're doin is creating more useless posts to thumb through.
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This is just retarded, I don't see Faria on the Wizard side with his own forum, and plus what about LVSW...both also quality chefs.
All you're doin is creating more useless posts to thumb through.
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You have thumbs?
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d. Everyone use sigs of 1 line or less. This IS a PDA / Smartphone forum!
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Did you even stop and look how much useful stuff is linked in peoples signatures..etc, and hey what a coincidence..its usually pda/smartphone related, plus it helps when ppl ask questions needing help, and they don't include their device info.
wow, pretty nifty huh?
And yes, I do have thumbs..they are even opposable.
Yes! it by all means should.
And in order to post in it, one has to past a test that shows they have read the wiki.
By the way - I didn't vote
I see the concern, I just don't see any effective solution.
Berd.
As of this post there are over 800 replies in the ProBlack3.0.1 post. 800. That's a lot of crap to churn through. Any more efficent form of organization is welcome imo.
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This is just retarded, I don't see Faria on the Wizard side with his own forum, and plus what about LVSW...both also quality chefs.
All you're doin is creating more useless posts to thumb through.
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That's my point exactly. All production ROMs should have their own subforums.
Also, side note... being a vBulletin admin, I know the capabilities of these forums. It wouldn't be too difficult to have the chef moderate his own subforum (or let them appoint their own moderator(s)).
I think it's funny that a very good suggestion is pissing so many people off. If you don't like the idea, just vote no... don't light your panties on fire in protest.
Keep in mind this is just a "Poll" to see what people think.
Long live JJ and Black! (and other hard working chefs and ROMs)
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Did you even stop and look how much useful stuff is linked in peoples signatures..etc, and hey what a coincidence..its usually pda/smartphone related, plus it helps when ppl ask questions needing help, and they don't include their device info.
wow, pretty nifty huh?
And yes, I do have thumbs..they are even opposable.
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Yep, all very useful info that could be shrunk down to 1 line or... hmmm.. I dunno, maybe put into the user's profile, rather than repeated ad nauseum throughout every thread?
I'm not moaning about the info, just the way its put forward. I have a sig in another forum which lists 10 items in my HTPC setup... in 1 line. It is a (IMHO) genuine point that the one forum that I use most for my PDA, is the least readable one on my PDA.
But anyhoo, anough about item d on my list. Actually, having re-read the original post, I reckon if there was a more hands-on moderation process on the forum, i.e. points a and b, then we wouldn't need a sub forum at all.
Congrats on the thumbs, BTW.
i guess you beeter start my own subforum in here as my hermes rom is coming.... ...could not resist....
in a serious note.... sub forum or not it still wont make a difference how people post etc...plus i would not be fair to others chefs.
Hey, can someone link me to the sub-sub-superduper-sub forum for the Black 3.0.8 forumz0orz? Dee tah deeee! Just when you think the threads can't be any funnier, BAM!
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i guess you beeter start my own subforum in here as my hermes rom is coming.... ...could not resist....
in a serious note.... sub forum or not it still wont make a difference how people post etc...plus i would not be fair to others chefs.
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That's a good point. What this forum needs is strict moderation. Jees, even my last couple of posts would have been binned... followed by a 'friendly' warning from the mod... on other forums.
Don't think that we need to be overly concerned about the fairness to 'other' chefs, though. I'm sure they will step up to the oche.. plate, or whatever, and do their own stuff.
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That's a good point. What this forum needs is strict moderation. Jees, even my last couple of posts would have been binned... followed by a 'friendly' warning from the mod... on other forums.
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Good point... Thread is closed, its useless and not going to happen..
request to mods/admins
please,please,please
I GET SICK WHEN I SEE THE GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD
the general discussion is full of LG,Samsung,Sony-Ericsson threads and posts about roms,apps,whole bunch of stuff which we don't support because they aren't htc
some guys/girls asked for separated threads for those listed above,but they didn't get them because they aren't htc products
and now they are clearly allowed to post about those devices in general discussion
(because you don't stop them)
so when we look it in technical way...it is spamming,as talking about cars,pc's, estates is
in general or any other thread (except for off topic thread)
PLEASE STOP THIS by removing those threads or by giving them a section,either ways let's keep the forum clean and cool....and easy to use and navigate
the third option is to give us shovels to dig our way out of omnias,i780-s,x-perias and whole bunch of crap
please think about this and let's do something
thanks
faruk
Off-Topic is the Apropos Place for this.
Ultimately though, General is a good place for non-HTC products. Most people stay within their own section.
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Off-Topic is the Apropos Place for this.
Ultimately though, General is a good place for non-HTC products. Most people stay within their own section.
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well we aren't windows mobile developers,at least it's not our name...we aren't support for wm devices,but for htc,as it's said in the welcome screen nad short "site about"
Welcome to xda-developers.com
This site is about certain PDA-phones, made by a firm called HTC in Taiwan. Their makers named them 'Wallaby', 'Himalaya', 'Blue Angel', 'Wizard' and 'TyTN', but almost nobody knows them by those names. The mobile provider O2 sells them under the brand-name 'XDA', and that's what we had in our hands first. They're also known as Qtek, MDA, SX-56, Hermes and many, many other names.
Since we develop software for it, we need information, and nobody seemed eager or ready to give us what we needed. So we 'reverse-engineered' the devices, found a lot of information, and shared it with the world. But as our site grew we realised that lots of ordinary users were also suffering from a lack of support. They started using the xda-developers forum to communicate and before long the forum was as much a user forum as it was a developer forum.
We hope that you will enjoy this site and find it as useful as we do. We encourage you to donate or otherwise support this site. Of course absolutely all proceeds from donations will benefit this community.
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and samsung is not htc so the place for them is off topic
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well we aren't windows mobile developers,at least it's not our name...
and samsung is not htc
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Oh I know. If you look back at all the non-Htc Subforum request threads you will see me telling people no. But They still seem to think General is ok. I don't know what Admin's stand on this is.
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Oh I know. If you look back at all the non-Htc Subforum request threads you will see me telling people no. But They still seem to think General is ok. I don't know what Admin's stand on this is.
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that is my point,i also say no, but they keep posting...but one moment i saw general full of non-htc crap and i got really pissed off
hateful child....
just kidding.
i think it's ignorant and somewhat elitist to completely deny non-HTC devices service here. We do have a forum for the XDA atom, which was NOT made by HTC. It was, however, carried by XDA. The world isn't static, and it's ignorant to say that the internet isn't either. We've opened forums for even the least used HTC devices, so we should definitely consider giving non-htc devices their own forums, especially given the number of people who have them.
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hateful child....
just kidding.
i think it's ignorant and somewhat elitist to completely deny non-HTC devices service here. We do have a forum for the XDA atom, which was NOT made by HTC. It was, however, carried by XDA. The world isn't static, and it's ignorant to say that the internet isn't either. We've opened forums for even the least used HTC devices, so we should definitely consider giving non-htc devices their own forums, especially given the number of people who have them.
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personally,i'd give them their sections,and i wouldn't mind to have omnia,but the general thread thing bugs me...if you know what i mean
well, you know....
to quote some inexplicably famous guy "the best place to find order is in disorder"
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well, you know....
to quote some inexplicably famous guy "the best place to find order is in disorder"
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????self-quoter
caught me!
i guess this means that i'm inexplicably famous.
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caught me!
i guess this means that i'm inexplicably famous.
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...no...
i only saw your signature...doh!
haha i keep trying to get one of the mods to say it so people don't present that reaction to me.
hint hint wink wink
anyone...please....the situation is getting bad really bad
admin opinion:
I have no issues whatsoever with the thread but I agree that off-topic might be a better place. Though this forum is for HTC made devices it doesn't stop us of discussing any other trivial matter as long as it's in the right section (whether that be the best brand of coffee, the speed of our dsl line, the color of my avatar or a different device)
We will not at any moment open forums for non htc made devices on this forum, it would open the floodgates for way too many devices and make this forum too general and unmanageble.
Best regards,
Flar
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admin opinion:
I have no issues whatsoever with the thread but I agree that off-topic might be a better place. Though this forum is for HTC made devices it doesn't stop us of discussing any other trivial matter as long as it's in the right section (whether that be the best brand of coffee, the speed of our dsl line, the color of my avatar or a different device)
We will not at any moment open forums for non htc made devices on this forum, it would open the floodgates for way too many devices and make this forum too general and unmanageble.
Best regards,
Flar
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i totally agree with you
i am a htc user so i don't have problems with the forum
but as an admin you could do something to prevent general development or any other thread being full of "off topics"
mods don't clean it up,go now and you will see more non-htc threads than eg. application development threads
and that drives me crazy
quote from my first post
and now they are clearly allowed to post about those devices in general discussion
(because you don't stop them)
so when we look it in technical way...it is spamming,as talking about cars,pc's, estates is
in general or any other thread (except for off topic thread)
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i totally agree with you
i am a htc user so i don't have problems with the forum
but as an admin you could do something to prevent general development or any other thread being full of "off topics"
mods don't clean it up,go now and you will see more non-htc threads than eg. application development threads
and that drives me crazy
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Unfortunately the life of a mod can be overwhelming at times, we can't be everywhere all the time. If you have a problem with a thread and want to bring it to our attention, you could send a PM.
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i totally agree with you
i am a htc user so i don't have problems with the forum
but as an admin you could do something to prevent general development or any other thread being full of "off topics"
mods don't clean it up,go now and you will see more non-htc threads than eg. application development threads
and that drives me crazy
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As jimmy says mods do have their own lives and can't be everywhere all the time, it helps if you help point out stuff like this.
Consider the fact that some of our mods spend up to 14 hours per day here, most of that time spent moderating...
Also consider this is vacation season and for a lot of the mods (and users) this time of day is the time you start thinking about going to bed, with mods being on vacation all of us have a hard time coping with all the mod work as it is, a bit of patience will get you a long way.
Best regards,
Flar
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As jimmy says mods do have their own lives and can't be everywhere all the time, it helps if you help point out stuff like this.
Consider the fact that some of our mods spend up to 14 hours per day here, most of that time spent moderating...
Also consider this is vacation season and for a lot of the mods (and users) this time of day is the time you start thinking about going to bed, with mods being on vacation all of us have a hard time coping with all the mod work as it is, a bit of patience will get you a long way.
Best regards,
Flar
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yes i know that and i fully appreciate it,they are people too
but there is a dozen of mods,not only one
i'm not rushing anyone,just asked everyone to consider it
this thread is almost a month old (7-25-08) so it won't make a difference now or next week or whenever
thanks again for your patience and dealing with some sometimes pissed off guys
i'll help,make your job easier
i'm starting to provide links of all non-htc threads in a new "report non-htc" thread
so someone could just delete them,without searching and reading the whole forum
is it ok with you?
thanks
By delete, you mean move to Off Topic?
Also, if this is the desired plan, should the General forum have a annoucment, and maybe change the description, informing users of this?
Oh and BTW, I have PM'd Meniesys about making a Roll up Sticky for all his guides, he said he is looking into it
Ta
Dave
Hey, I'm new here, and just got a HTC Desire recently, I mistakenly updated to Froyo before I knew that I couldn't root and now I want to try downgrading my HBoot to 0.8 so that I can root.
I want to follow this:
htcpedia.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2934
But I need a RUU (No idea what it is really) to do that, so I'm looking at this list:
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=695667 but I honestly have no idea how I can see which one I need to download, so can anyone help me out there? Where can I see it on my phone? I believe it's unbranded and all that.
You can't. You're stuffed until someone breaks the new HBoot, which may be never.
mate, i understand you're new, but please read forum rules.
hboot 0.92 is not downgradeable at the moment, as explained on some already opened threads...
unfortunately, you'll have 2 wait.
Well, it looks like someone succeeded in downgrading from 0.75 to 0.66 without doing any such breaking? I'd like to try it just to confirm, what harm can it do? Haven't seen anyone actually having tried that way?
I also did read forum rules, I'm not asking for a way to downgrade it, just asking for some information in how I choose what RUU I need? >.<
no, the rule was to search before posting a new topic.
there's another thread with discussions about this subject: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=741672
Aye mate, I did search before, I've been browsing around for most of the day, what I'm asking is how do I see what RUU I need to download for my phone, not how do I downgrade HBoot.
but mate, whichever RUU you get won't fit because you have updated your HBOOT to 0.92. that's what's being discussed in the thread I pointed you...
if you dare reading...
Yeah, I'm reading, and I saw that the method was tried, I'm still interested in what a RUU is
And sorry about that, I only read like around the latest pages, not the first 2, which was the one it was on >.<
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But I need a RUU (No idea what it is really)that.
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RUU stands for ROM Upgrade Utility and it checks your HBoot version prior to installing any ROM.
Hope this helps! )
off topic off topic off topic off topic off topic
there's no point in having rules and manuals if people are lazy enough to bypass them every time they have a doubt.
anyway, feeling better now andrea? relieved maybe?
enjoy your week.
lol !
yes dmpwd, I was already feeling quite well, waiting for Paul's rom as many others...i came to delete my post because it was going to be taken negatively, but I like the kindness that comes between the lines of your answers....FYI I am now quite amused, thanks!
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there's no point in having rules and manuals if people are lazy enough to bypass them every time they have a doubt.
anyway, feeling better now andrea? relieved maybe?
enjoy your week.
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THE GUY SAID HE WAS NEW!
Forums were designed as a community where likeminded people can SHARE knowledge, WHAT DO YOU PEOPLE IN HERE nOT GET? If someone asks for genuine help, help them with useful information not Nazi rule keeping or say nothing and move along. we dont need idiots.
OT. Sry.
rodzt37 said:
THE GUY SAID HE WAS NEW!
Forums were designed as a community where likeminded people can SHARE knowledge, WHAT DO YOU PEOPLE IN HERE nOT GET? If someone asks for genuine help, help them with useful information not Nazi rule keeping or say nothing and move along. we dont need idiots.
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Jup and as he just registered this would be the first thing he saw and agreed to...
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OT. Sry.
Jup and as he just registered this would be the first thing he saw and agreed to...
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Is there not also a rule about flaming?
Would hardly call a copy paste of the rules for flaming..
But if you saw it as that, then i apologize.
Just getting tired of post after post asking the same things by newly registered users.
I wish that reading and searching had first priority, instead of spamming the board with countless new topics.
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Just getting tired of post after post asking the same things by newly registered users.
I wish that reading and searching had first priority, instead of spamming the board with countless new topics.
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++++++1
The rules are there for a reason, let's not forget that! To be honest, these forums are starting to get less and less useful, because of the amount of redundant threads that are being started.
If we had more robust/regular moderation, this would be less of an issue, but it seems we don't have a Desire-owning mod!
Regards,
Dave
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I wish that reading and searching had first priority, instead of spamming the board with countless new topics.
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this is my point of view and what I was trying to explain, but some people even called me a nazi/idiot for that. that's another rule-breaking activity, but anyway...
hope the OP is happy now.
I wish that reading and searching had first priority, as well as newbie help, instead of producing 2 full pages on newbie behavior, but anyway...
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OT. Sry.
Jup and as he just registered this would be the first thing he saw and agreed to...
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Yeah, and I did search before posting, I think people just got the question "How do I downgrade from 0.92" instead of my original question that asked what RUU I'd need to get for my phone, if it was possible. Lol.
And also, I wonder how the hell this topic got onto rules and stuff like that, so lets just leave it at this
Nice. Now I see suggested threads popping all over the place as I type this. I find it very indicative.
Oxygen tips&tricks is inactive as most users go rather to their forums. I mean, c'mon, 14 runnymede threads on the first two pages of Q&A (and counting) looks ridiculous and makes all of us look silly. Release Oxygen and place this instead when apparently dedicated rom threads are not enough for some people.
What do reputable members think about this?
Define reputable members.
Also, I count 4 threads on the front page.
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Define reputable members.
Also, I count 4 threads on the front page.
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You defined yourself. Read again.
Right.
So, people post a question on the development forum, and the usual suspects jump at them for doing that (understandably so). THEN, they post the same question on the Q&A forum, and you jump at them again?
Get a life and be more polite in the future. No one is forcing you to answer to their threads.
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Right.
So, people post a question on the development forum, and the usual suspects jump at them for doing that (understandably so). THEN, they post the same question on the Q&A forum, and you jump at them again?
Get a life and be more polite in the future. No one is forcing you to answer to their threads.
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What level of politeness you expect? You come barging in, you do what is called selective reading and completely irrelevant to the topic at hand as you have done it before, and now I turn impolite?
So, let me make a summary of what you wrote - someone opens a thread in development section where the only thing someone developed is brain hemorrhaging, they get bashed (understandably so), mods intervene and move it to where it belongs (I concur), while at the same time that very rom has it's own dedicated thread for the inquiries like that?
Actually I won't jump on them but I agree. They're all about the same thing so the ops should be tagging on to the end of the thread. That's just forum etiquette really
Sent from my HTC Desire using xda premium
I can't understand what you are trying to say. First of all, I've never said anything irrelavant to any topic. Or ever started one (like this). And secondly I've never started a thread in the developement section in general.
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I can't understand what you are trying to say. First of all, I've never said anything irrelavant to any topic. Or ever started one (like this). And secondly I've never started a thread in the developement section in general.
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C'mon, stop trolling. I know there is no possibility someones abstract thinking can't comprehend what I tried to say, but in case there are people like that, I'll edit that out of courtesy so that anyone could understand it.
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C'mon, stop trolling. I know there is no possibility someones abstract thinking can't comprehend what I tried to say, but in case there are people like that, I'll edit that out of courtesy so that anyone could understand it.
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I still don't get what you're saying. Nevertheless you are right, this forum is not for discussing personal disputes, so I'll leave the rest of the discussion for the more... reputable members.
You know, it's because users are afraid that if they push "Search" button their PC will explode. Either that or they are just simply stupid.
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if they push "Search" button their PC will explode.
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Shhhh! Who told you about that script?
Terepin said:
You know, it's because users are afraid that if they push "Search" button their PC will explode. Either that or they are just simply stupid.
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Reading hurts brain too...can only read back 1 page
Sent from my HTC Desire LeeDrOiD Ed.
mistaliu said:
Reading hurts brain too...can only read back 1 page
Sent from my HTC Desire LeeDrOiD Ed.
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They have important matters to attend to. We without lives have time to roam endless threads. They don't.
SwiftKeyed from my HTC Desire using XDA App.
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when apparently dedicated rom threads are not enough for some people.
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not sure whether I understand your point. anyway, for me, I was not allowed to post in the dedicated threat. xda server told me that I first need 10 posts to be allowed posting in developer, which btw is for developers only, and instead I should post in Q&A
mistaliu said:
Reading hurts brain too...can only read back 1 page
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Some of them can't do even that.
erklat said:
They have important matters to attend to. We without lives have time to roam endless threads. They don't.
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Which is highly hypocritical from them, because if they do have important matters to attend to they wouldn't bother posting here in the first place.
Yes, i know that everyone of you (examples below) have very important question, that deserves separate thread, but, for God sake, don't spam the forum!!! (yes, my thread is meant to be provocative...). There is Q And A for Ace II thread for most of that questions...
Examples:
"[Q] How to root Ace gt-i8160 with BTU MC8?" (yes, it freakin' special technique to root phone working on that firmware)
"[Q] It is possible Update to JB?" (oh yeah, nobody answers that question so far, it required new thread)
"[Q] PIT?" (yes, that question probably would be ignored in q & a thread... the same way its ignored in separate thread)
"[Q] Change camera settings?" (veeeery important, no comment)
and so on...
Am I the only one here tired of all that spam?
judas1977 said:
Yes, i know that everyone of you (examples below) have very important question, that deserves separate thread, but, for God sake, don't spam the forum!!! (yes, my thread is meant to be provocative...). There is Q And A for Ace II thread for most of that questions...
Examples:
"[Q] How to root Ace gt-i8160 with BTU MC8?" (yes, it freakin' special technique to root phone working on that firmware)
"[Q] It is possible Update to JB?" (oh yeah, nobody answers that question so far, it required new thread)
"[Q] PIT?" (yes, that question probably would be ignored in q & a thread... the same way its ignored in separate thread)
"[Q] Change camera settings?" (veeeery important, no comment)
and so on...
Am I the only one here tired of all that spam?
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+1 :good:
I totally feel you man. People are behaving here like it's some technical support not respecting the rules they agreed to accept while registering here. Constant mess, chatting in threads, useless posts about personal feelings, asking questions which require spending 10 seconds with Google or forum search function. But the saddest thing here is that it seems like people who want to keep forums clean are actually minority here. Or at least they are instantly quenched by those who have to quote entire-page-long post to say only "thanks" and are raged about being offended and abused.
Sigint89 said:
I totally feel you man. People are behaving here like it's some technical support not respecting the rules they agreed to accept while registering here. Constant mess, chatting in threads, useless posts about personal feelings, asking questions which require spending 10 seconds with Google or forum search function. But the saddest thing here is that it seems like people who want to keep forums clean are actually minority here. Or at least they are instantly quenched by those who have to quote entire-page-long post to say only "thanks" and are raged about being offended and abused.
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Exactly. Its like they're on Facebook or this forums is like a social networking site to them.
Ask the forum moderators to make this thread a sticky. So that everyone can see it.
How about if we just ignore (and report) any new useless thread and be a little more active in the Q&A Thread?
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uchihakurtz said:
How about if we just ignore (and report) any new useless thread
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That's a good solution. Were not annoyed but the mods are. What do think? LOL.
Leave them alone and just try and point them to the right direction. If they do it again, report that user. I'm active on Q and A but some are just "you know" I don't really want to talk to people who you'd still have to walk through every little detail. I'm not good with explaining myself so I tend to ignore posts that ask me to do just that.
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very right. i don't know why any people always post a new post to ask? some question is spam! made our forum is do not beautiful, it's make messy and not subtle. I know if always report any spam question make they be bothered. i don't think out solution for now
YEAH! thats is why i created the All about ace2 for GB and JB to lessen this problem anyway its way to many to report each same question or post
I'll try to enlighten all of you... BECAUSE THE Q&A THREAD DOESN'T WORK!!!
Until I see a forum moderator saying that all the question should be posted there I will never do it again (only done it once) and I'll explain why:
1. To make any Q&A thread work we would expect someone to maintain and index on it, but this isn't the case here.
2. Posts are ignored because they get lost in all the discussions going on there.
3. Answers are lost because most of the time no one knows if the answer is to your question or to the question 2 posts below yours.
4. Search is impossible if you don't know the exact words used.
Maybe the reasons above are part of the motive other devices have a specific areas for questions, like "Galaxy Ace S5830 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting" that have 3000 posts in it... Trying to make it all fit on 1 thread is completely useless and extremely confusing. No one can expect a user to go thru 100 pages trying to find an answer to his question.
Now picking up on the 1st question, let me make another one...
Why do some users in this forum spend more time "demanding" people to post where they think is right other then helping people?
If we were a bit more friendly maybe more people would stay and help out, instead we just drive people out with this kind of aggressive and unjustified comments.
mcjpt said:
I'll try to enlighten all of you... BECAUSE THE Q&A THREAD DOESN'T WORK!!!
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You have right, partially.
But the questions are left without answers for several reasons:
- the answer was posted before
- nobody know the answer
- the answer is easy to achieve just by checking by oneself.
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Why do some users in this forum spend more time "demanding" people to post where they think is right other then helping people?
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Did you see a policeman helping a thief to break the law only for one reason: to be nice, kind and helpful?? And this is what you propose.
Answering your question: Because i want to keep our subforum CLEAN. How many of that "new question threads" was already answered (sometimes in SEPARATE, dedicated thread)? And what you propose is to help other breaking the rules.
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If we were a bit more friendly maybe more people would stay and help out, instead we just drive people out with this kind of aggressive and unjustified comments.
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There are forums where people are banned for breaking rules, trust me, and "illegall threads" land where it belongs: in trashcan.
Chill out! Just go here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2321168 why?
simple... almost any developments are here pack in one for easy access.. to make it less confusing..
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I'll try to enlighten all of you... BECAUSE THE Q&A THREAD DOESN'T WORK!!!
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Really? I think it doesn't work because people like you never learn. Questions are answered there - that's the purpose. And that purpose is served.
Questions are lost because some can't answer them, or its too easy if you learned to read and simply because the question itself is dumb (the answer is obvious yet they choose to post it)
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Until I see a forum moderator saying that all the question should be posted there I will never do it again
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actually, one of our forum mods, The Captain - is reminding new users to post on the Q and A thread then he locks the thread.
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4. Search is impossible if you don't know the exact words used.
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Uhhm. I use search and never had any problems so far. I'm guessing you really don't know how to use a search engine productively.
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Maybe the reasons above are part of the motive other devices have a specific areas for questions, like "Galaxy Ace S5830 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting" that have 3000 posts in it... Trying to make it all fit on 1 thread is completely useless and extremely confusing. No one can expect a user to go thru 100 pages trying to find an answer to his question.
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Since we don't have a section like that, I think its better to use a single thread. thus searching would be faster.
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Why do some users in this forum spend more time "demanding" people to post where they think is right other then helping people?
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In all honesty, I usually tell the user the answer and direct them to the q and a thread for any other questions irrelevant to the question on the thread.
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