generic ROM before flashing new ROM? - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development

Hi, I dont have my Softbanks TyN Hermes 200 base ROM. I reflashed ones to shaps WM6.0.
It is recomended to flash original ROM before reflashing to one of the latest ROMs.... is there a good generic I could use instead of my original ROM? or should I just flash the new ROM directly?
thanks!

Its usually recommended to flash to original ROM when you flash a hyperstorage ROM, ie. OS and ExtROM merged! If not, just flash them and it should be ok.
What i do is strip out just the OS and ExtROM from the orginal one and make a RUU just by themself. I flash this before i flash the ROM i like. That way, i dont mess with radio, IPL, SPL etc.

ai6908 said:
Its usually recommended to flash to original ROM when you flash a hyperstorage ROM, ie. OS and ExtROM merged! If not, just flash them and it should be ok.
What i do is strip out just the OS and ExtROM from the orginal one and make a RUU just by themself. I flash this before i flash the ROM i like. That way, i dont mess with radio, IPL, SPL etc.
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When I saw this post I thought exactly about this. Can you please post this "stripped" version of the official ROM, I'm growing tired of reflashing Radio every now and then. BTW, I was trying to do this a few days ago and got more confused than anything, so I just quit.
Thanks in advance,

dr_tracker said:
When I saw this post I thought exactly about this. Can you please post this "stripped" version of the official ROM, I'm growing tired of reflashing Radio every now and then. BTW, I was trying to do this a few days ago and got more confused than anything, so I just quit.
Thanks in advance,
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I dont have a rapidshare or any of the file sharing account and file is about 80MB, so i dont have a good way of uploading the file. Did you try using dutty's tool (can be found in any kitchen) to strip the RUU file and rebuild it again? That's what I did, if that helps.

ai6908 said:
I dont have a rapidshare or any of the file sharing account and file is about 80MB, so i dont have a good way of uploading the file. Did you try using dutty's tool (can be found in any kitchen) to strip the RUU file and rebuild it again? That's what I did, if that helps.
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Perfect... Just what I needed, thanks a lot...

ai6908 said:
Its usually recommended to flash to original ROM when you flash a hyperstorage ROM, ie. OS and ExtROM merged! If not, just flash them and it should be ok.
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Excellent, figured it was something like that. Thanks for the tip!

Hello,
I wanted to follow this method, but my original rom (softbank x01ht, wm5), is not available anymore. Can I use another generic rom, and in wm6 version? And using dutty's tool, are the "version" and "language" fieds important, or is it just for the info in the phone (as it will be a transition rom, I really don't care about it, even is it wasn't transition rom by the way)? Sorry for the noob questions, but I'm trying to avoid bricking my phone...
Toni

tonidekohlanta said:
Hello,
I wanted to follow this method, but my original rom (softbank x01ht, wm5), is not available anymore. Can I use another generic rom, and in wm6 version? And using dutty's tool, are the "version" and "language" fieds important, or is it just for the info in the phone (as it will be a transition rom, I really don't care about it, even is it wasn't transition rom by the way)? Sorry for the noob questions, but I'm trying to avoid bricking my phone...
Toni
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I am not sure about softbank, but if you can install any hermes ROM, then you should be good to go with any official hermes ROM.
I never change the version and language in dutty's tool when i create my own ROM's!

Ok thanks, that's all I needed! I will take the cingular rom as it seems it was the one which gave best results on hard reset issue.
Toni

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Can I go back?

I looked around and did not see a clear answer to the question of reverting/flashing back to WM5 if desired after flashing one of these WM6 ROMS.
Does anyone know where I can find the answer?
Thanks in advance.
I too have looked around but haven't asked for fear of being flamed. The gurus think that we should be able to pick up on all the lingo and have a clear understanding of what everything means.
I am looking for a way to go back to a shipped ROM from anything after flashing SPL 1.11 in case I need to warranty exchange my Cingular 8525. I have yet to figure out how to do it.
euth said:
I too have looked around but haven't asked for fear of being flamed. The gurus think that we should be able to pick up on all the lingo and have a clear understanding of what everything means.
I am looking for a way to go back to a shipped ROM from anything after flashing SPL 1.11 in case I need to warranty exchange my Cingular 8525. I have yet to figure out how to do it.
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Yes. You can go back to WM5 from WM6. I have done it before with no problems. Your answer is once again yes!
I will not flame you but look harder.
wildbilll said:
I looked around and did not see a clear answer to the question of reverting/flashing back to WM5 if desired after flashing one of these WM6 ROMS.
Does anyone know where I can find the answer?
Thanks in advance.
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I am feeling kind tonight!
Look here:- http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/
You two rookies need to stop by:
http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/
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Hope the hint helps
Oh dear
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_UpgradeFAQ
And the gurus have used plain english too! wow!
...but just to let You know..
once You go black (2.5 ), You will never go back...
hi there
first of all, I am no expert in the ROM related knowledge, but i did go back to WM5 from WM6 recently. The reason I have gone back to WM5 it is because I am suspecting the Chinese viewer (CE-Star) that i used does not work good in any flavor of WM6, it causes frequent lock-ups in WM6 that makes my phone pretty much unusable.
Besides, i don't mind to share my experience for downgrading to WM5, the following is my up and down sequence.
1. upgrade from Dopod WM5 rom to WM6 cooked rom
2. upgrade to SPL 1.40
3. upgrade radio to 1.38.00.11
4. upgrade radio to 1.40.30.00
5. upgrade to SPL 2.10
6. downgrade SPL from 2.10 to 1.40
7. downgrade from WM5 Rom (It is some sort of HTC Standard WM5 Rom that my friend gave me, and my radio has gone back to 1.38.00.10 as the ROM comes with it.
8. upgrade to SPL 2.10
9. upgrade to Radio 1.40.30.00
Also, you may check out mrvanx's guide for downgrading to WM5 here.
http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=41&Itemid=26
bronx said:
...but just to let You know..
once You go black (2.5 ), You will never go back...
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actually... i'm on black 2.5 and thinking of going back... too many apps are wiggin out on wm6
I actually just did it. I was running the latest version of HardSPL, flashed to the new ATT ROM, and then created a updater to flash the SPL to the ATT spl.
Wasn't hard, and only took a few minutes. So, as of right now, my phone is running the new ATT ROM, and if I need to warranty it, I'm all set.
in the wiki it mentions..
If your vendor has released you original rom as a shipped upgrade, you just need to flash it.
If your vendor has not released any ROM upgrade yet, you cannot fall back to original ROM easily. You'll have to reconstruct the ROM out of a dumped ROM.
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I'm using 838pro, what about the ROM which available to download from the dopod company website.
does it safe to just flash from it or do I need to repackage the ROM..?
thank you.
crabwalker said:
The reason I have gone back to WM5 it is because I am suspecting the Chinese viewer (CE-Star) that i used does not work good in any flavor of WM6, it causes frequent lock-ups in WM6 that makes my phone pretty much unusable.
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if you only want to read chinese, but not input, there is an alternative to it. look for a cab which is named 'sunglobe.ttf register patch'.
Maybe the easiest way
First thing I would want to do is to Flash the unit to what is known as a "Hard SPL". For some reason it makes all the other flash work go a lot more smoothly. You can get instructions and software for that at:
http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/index.php...ask=view&id=40&Itemid=26&limit=1&limitstart=2
Once that is done, and it should take about 5-10 minutes depending upon the speed of your computer and USB connection, you can load whatever OS rom you desire.
You can get a carrier agreeable rom from the Cingular/ATT site:
http://www.htcamerica.net/support/8525/software-downloads.html
Or, and this should work, just link directly to the rob by clicking:
http://www.htcamerica.net/support/d...R_WWE_2.15.502.3_6275_1.40.30.00_108_Ship.exe
This should leave you at the latest and greatest of the WM5 packages from Cingular/ATT, and all should be well. And . . . if it hozes . . . which it should not, you should have no warrantee issues since you were trying to flash the upgrade that THEY were providing you. :-D
Laters,
d1eter said:
in the wiki it mentions..
I'm using 838pro, what about the ROM which available to download from the dopod company website.
does it safe to just flash from it or do I need to repackage the ROM..?
thank you.
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ROMs from Dopod HK or Singapore are very old ones. The SPL is 1.04. You may not be able to flash backward if you are with HardSPL v7. Also if your radio ROM is newer than 1.27, you may face problem when you flash the original (as it is packed with an old radio rom).
(Please correct me if I am wrong.)
To play safe, follow mrvanx' guide:
http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=41&Itemid=26
d1eter said:
in the wiki it mentions..
I'm using 838pro, what about the ROM which available to download from the dopod company website.
does it safe to just flash from it or do I need to repackage the ROM..?
thank you.
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After some readings and I have managed to used dutty's tool to recompiled the Dopod's WM5 English rom from the original Dopod shipped rom.
This rom has OS + Extended Rom ONLY.
No IPL, No SPL, No Radio.
I have tested and it works on my Hermes, and Bootloader and Radio stay as is. Please note your result may vary.
Here's the download link
http://rapidshare.com/files/29500131/WM5_Dopod_1.30.707.4__Huchison_3_AU__OS_ExtRom_only.7z
To play safe, I would suggest you to do the following prior flashing the OS rom.
1. Flash boot loader to Hard-SPL-V7
2. Flash your radio rom to 1.38. or 1.40
crabwalker said:
After some readings and I have managed to used dutty's tool to recompiled the Dopod's WM5 English rom from the original Dopod shipped rom.
This rom has OS + Extended Rom ONLY.
No IPL, No SPL, No Radio.
I have tested and it works on my Hermes, and Bootloader and Radio stay as is. Please note your result may vary.
Here's the download link
http://rapidshare.com/files/29500131/WM5_Dopod_1.30.707.4__Huchison_3_AU__OS_ExtRom_only.7z
To play safe, I would suggest you to do the following prior flashing the OS rom.
1. Flash boot loader to Hard-SPL-V7
2. Flash your radio rom to 1.38. or 1.40
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So in other words: do exactly what my guide says to do?
Why
mrvanx said:
So in other words: do exactly what my guide says to do?
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Why would anyone want to do that? A tested process that works time and time again?
And if you don't mind the compliment, all of your guides rock!
mrvanx said:
So in other words: do exactly what my guide says to do?
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Yes, just forgot to mentioned, I ripped the Bootloader and Radio all based on your (mrvanx) guide. It is great, the info provided is easy to follow, very clear and precise. Thanks.

What if LVSW_Trinity_WM6_v2.0.0.4 goes wrong during update?

I am using the french version of HTC 3600. I will foloww LVSW procedure for updating but what if it goes wrong !!
Can I simply re-apply the official HTC rom from the HTC web site? WIll that work ?
Thanks for helping
Dag
If you only flash OS, no problem. If you have hard-spl installed your device will be almost unbrickable.
With a new Hard Spl, I can restore an old ROM?
ZakMcRofl said:
If you only flash OS, no problem. If you have hard-spl installed your device will be almost unbrickable.
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can you explain me what hard-spl is ?
My question here is, will original ROM restore the splashscreen and initial bootscreen that was changed by LVSW?
So many questions
With a new Hard Spl, I can restore an old ROM?
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You can usually restore an old ROM even without Hard-SPL. It makes it a little easier because you can flash even ROMs that are not intended for your device (for example HTC Rom to Vodafone Compact GPS).
can you explain me what hard-spl is ?
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Sure. It is a replacement bootloader made by DES and later by Olipro. You'll find it here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1239088
LVSW offers it as a download as well, I don't know why he didn't include it in the update itself (nbh).
My question here is, will original ROM restore the splashscreen and initial bootscreen that was changed by LVSW?
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Yes, original ROM updates are what I call full updates: Bootloader, Splashscreens, OS, Radio. However they will only overwrite Olipro's Hard-SPL if you use Soft-SPL (sspl) for flashing. Keep that in mind if you want to send your device in for warranty repairs...
Enough noob questions answered For details use search, its not hard.
OK OK one more thing...
If I flash from mun_rus rom back to WM05 and take device for warranty... thay will not accept it?
If you flash it properly (load SSPL first, then run official update) they will have no way of telling the difference.
Obviously this only works if you have access to the official full update.
grega_slo said:
OK OK one more thing...
If I flash from mun_rus rom back to WM05 and take device for warranty... thay will not accept it?
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If your phone is the S300+ (SFR version of Trinity) it's gonna be hard. No SFR ROM is available yet. So you can find the OS part over here and you can save your extended ROM, but it seems to be hard to restore exactly as the same.
I`m just asking out of couriosity...
Flashed to muns SE rom works like a charm...

O2 XDA Diamond official ROM (German)

Here you are:
http://rapidshare.com/files/127970437/O2_XDA_Diamond_1.37_RUU.rar.html
perfect - thanks a lot for your support.
If you want to make it like the Stock XDA Diamond, first you have to flash spl 1.37 back.
regards
Anja31
Thx!
Yeah, thanks man!
you are my hero (4 2day)!!!
Just wondering, is there a "Homezone" app in the Rom...or is there maybe any "Häuschen" in the TouchFlo3d? If there is a cab file it would be really great if you could post it here.
Thanks man!
Thanks, it is nice to have an backup of the Orginal Rom.
Is it possible that you load on Mega?, with Rapid I have problems it said no DL Slot free.
Ghostrider
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=D5HWC22H
I recommend you use mediafire. Rapidshare is only 50Kb/s for non-premium users...
Brevi said:
Just wondering, is there a "Homezone" app in the Rom...or is there maybe any "Häuschen" in the TouchFlo3d? If there is a cab file it would be really great if you could post it here.
Thanks man!
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Yes there is a häuschen alongside the datum and above the uhr. A .cab is difficult since nobody investigated from where the information comes. maybe a system service like on previous models, maybe it's inside manila ...
thanks a lot.
Finally I can try some other roms without losing my guarantee.
A small guide or a link how to undo the HardSPL thing would be nice.
Greetings
iggboert
thanks a lot.
hier ist the guide to downgrade.
if you have unsigned hardspl, you'll need to use the SSPL package (i.e. the same package that is posted in HardSPL thread to flash the hardspl), just replace the NBH file with one of these stock SPLs.
if you have signed hardspl, just go ahead and flash with normal RUU process (no overwrite protection in that one, as it is already only accepting htchackers signed files, there was no need for that).
also,
STEP BY STEP HOW TO RETURN TO STOCK SPL - FOR WARRANTY REASONS ONLY!
0. be sure to first restore stock OS, and stock radio. stock SPL is always to be done last!!
1. download the stock spl package from post #39 in this thread.
2. download the package from post #2 in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=400950 thread.
3. pick the SPL you want to reflash to (ONLY FOR WARRANTY REASONS), it's a .NBH file, replace the original .NBH in the package from post #2 with this SPL NBH.
4. run the RUU (or if needed, run SSPL-Manual.exe manually, then run RUU when it goes to black screen), it goes to 100%, reboots, done.
+5. to verify, volume down + reset, see version number on tricolour screen.
sushilange said:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=D5HWC22H
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Thanks a lot
thx for the guide
is there a way to get the blue tf3d theme without reflashing my diamond? a solution like just replacing of the manlia.exe or something?
or can anyone upload me a copy of the manila.exe from the O²-Rom so i can try it myself?
regards
Fabian
Hallo!
I bought a 02 XDA diamond. But it is in German (windows 6.1). I would like to change the language from German to English. Does anyone can help me how to do this.
I have no idea what is ROM and so on. I am completely new to this process. Shall I have step by step instructions please?
Thank you in advance!
Greetings!
Sony
whats the deal-will we be getting a WWE O2 ROM anytime soon? I love the blue tf3d
anyone has any luck with a separate cab created for this ?
can anyone sign this for me to use?
anyone ????
First of all I want to thank the guys posting the "reflash" Instructions again and again, so I finally found them too. Since Im trying out a lot with my Diamond (Not my first WM device, but first with cooked rom) I appreciate it, that it is possible to get back for warranty reasons.
There is just one little thing that I am not sure about yet:
I know:
- instal unsigned Had SPL
- Flash stock Rom (O2 XDA DIAMOND in my case)
- Flash stock SPL (I found he package in the Post mentioned)
I dont know:
- wich of the three versions in that spl-package is the one i need???
I hope so can tell me even though i hopefully never have to try this procedure!
Thanks so far
Hi and thanks for your great work.
My request would be for a stock O2 WWE ROM 1.93 if this is possible?

English Version

Newbie:
Looking for a thread to explain how to change the language on my diamond from swedish to english.
cheers
Mina08 said:
Newbie:
Looking for a thread to explain how to change the language on my diamond from swedish to english.
cheers
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Just flash a WWE Rom on your device and its in english =)
bl0w said:
Just flash a WWE Rom on your device and its in english =)
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so i need to do a hard SPL first, then flash a WWE Rom, which WWE Rom do you suggest?
Cheers
beeeeeeeppping: ) incorrect question try for yourself - it's you who are using rom, set priorities - speed/eye candy etc and then switch
Mina08 said:
so i need to do a hard SPL first, then flash a WWE Rom, which WWE Rom do you suggest?
Cheers
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yeah u need to hard SPL and flash an other rom...
but which rom we can't say... you have to try it =)
ether AZTOR V7 or bepe0.99dx oder JUICY or DUTTY or...
all roms could be found here: http://diamond.geg0r.de
Greets
Yuna said:
beeeeeeeppping: ) incorrect question try for yourself - it's you who are using rom, set priorities - speed/eye candy etc and then switch
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So what your saying is, Rom's can be diffrent for looks or speed of device? just trying to educate myself
cheers
bl0w said:
yeah u need to hard SPL and flash an other rom...
but which rom we can't say... you have to try it =)
ether AZTOR V7 or bepe0.99dx oder JUICY or DUTTY or...
all roms could be found here: http://diamond.geg0r.de
Greets
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Thanks for taking the time to educate, just hard for a beginner to go the right way, also to find the right rom, when looking there is no way of defining the right rom, or?
Cheers
ROMs are like cars, you get lots of different types/speeds/looks etc.
most of the time, a ROM is either fast or pretty. You usually sacrifice one for another.
Dutty has some quick and standard looking ROMs, as does SwiftBL.
Just try one, if you dont like it flash another!
Just found this link to origenal Rom's, can i put the WWE on mine?
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Diamond_Upgrades
cheers
yes, but you will need Hard SPL first
is there any particular Hard spl?
mugglesquop said:
yes, but you will need Hard SPL first
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sorry but that isn't right!
If he will flash an OFFICAIL HTC Rom he doesn't have to hardspl his device.
@Mina08: just try to load the official WWE version of HTC an start the installer... don't forget to backup your files on device. all of them will be deleted by flashing
ok will do, and i will let you know how it goes, again thanks to all for your advice.....
cheers
ooooops, do i need to CID Unlock? before flashing for the first time
If your phone is a Original HTC Diamond, you do not need Hard SPL. If it is Vendor or Area locked, you need to do a Hard SPL.
Hard SPL is the CID.
thanks again, i am sure this going to help a lot of people out, as it seems to be common that they want to change language
o'dear, got this message on the status screen
ERROR (294): Invalid Vendor ID
does that mean i have to do a hard spl
yup as i said
yay i was right lol
ok here we go again......if it works Mugglesquop i will buy you a pint

ROM Update needed?

I got my phone from Vodafone yesterday and came with the following;
ROM Version: 1.37.161.2 WWE
ROM Date 06/26/08
Radio Version 1.00.25.03
Protocol Version: 52.26a.25.09U
Was thinking about flashing to TLR 3.08.07.16
Would this be an improvement over the current, sluggish ROM?
Thanks.
Original ROMs arefull of crap and contain old software. Try installing a cooked ROM, you will find them MUCH faster and more stable than manufacturers ROMs.
I use Duttys 3.4. MAKE SURE YOU CID UNLOCK FIRST SO PLEASE DONT RUSH INTO THIS.
Anthony2oo5 said:
Original ROMs arefull of crap and contain old software. Try installing a cooked ROM, you will find them MUCH faster and more stable than manufacturers ROMs.
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I thought this would be the case, but always prefer to check. It's like a new PC, I always format and start again with a fresh, non-OEM install.
Anthony2oo5 said:
I use Duttys 3.4. MAKE SURE YOU CID UNLOCK FIRST SO PLEASE DONT RUSH INTO THIS.
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This is where I show I'm a beginner. What's CID?
I was going to follow this guide.
CID is put there by the manufactorer to stop you flashing to ROMs not made by them. I just done a quick lookup and CID unlock is not required as long as you flash your SPL.
My advice to you IF you decide to use a cooked ROM:
1. Read THIS before you do anything so you understand what your doing.
2. Flash your SPL to a Hard SPL. I think there are 2 on here for the diamond. I use THIS one.
3. Flash your ROM to a ROM of your choice. I use Duttys 3.4 because its a good ROM and he brings an update almost every 1 - 2 weeks, so your always using the latest software and tweaks. But feel free to choose your own.
Hope I helped.
Thanks for the pointers.
After reading through, I gave it a go...
...Hmm, looks like I may have to try Duttys, as TLR has failed on me twice now with 'ERROR [262] : UPDATE ERROR'
Anyone any idea what's causing this?
use the search button
this error is common....you will find what you need
Have a look HERE.
Is your phone connected via Activesync? XP or Vista?
Thanks for the responses everyone!
It ended up I was using a signed SPL rather than an unsigned SPL and therefore wouldn't let it install.
Time to rummage around the forums and look from some good apps!
Thanks again!
Glad you got it working

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