External battery better asa new "real" one? - Touch GSM Accessories

Hello Guys!
I own a HTC ELF (64mb) ´for almost a year now and about 1 month ago a malfunction happend. My guarantee did repair it but it tooked over 4 weeks until i got my phone back... They changed almost the whole phone but they leaved the old battery in. 1100mA Li-ion over 4 weeks uncharged --> not good!
So unforunalty my battery life is shorter now It needs almost 5h until it charges full but it has not even 25% of the lifetime it had before!
Its really desperating because i cant do anything with my phone without carring the charge cable with me. Im sick of beeing afraid that my charge dies immediately so im looking for a new one. Ebay has some pretty nice offers like 2400mA charge but i dont like the bigger size.
There are 2 options im considering with:
First is to buy a "normal" 1100mA or
Get a "external" battery with 3000 or even 4400mA of giantical power! Only Negative point about is the fact to carry a special charge with ya but i think its not that bad as my idea looks
look here for a 3000 version
Or even 4400 !
So what do you guys think about my idea? What is better? To buy a new battery or leave the old and get a external charge with 4 time more power?

it's always a good idea to buy a second battery, but i dont recommend you to use an external power supply that has 3 or 4 times than the original one.

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just bought a t-mobile dash used, phone was unmodded running the stock t-mobile rom. i flashed it to kavana 6.1 recently and i have been getting really bad battery life. like the phone wont even last throughout the whole day with basic usage, few phone calls and light texting. wifi just drains my battery in a matter of minutes. also my battery meter seems to be inconsistent like itll say i have 65% then when i reboot the phone it shows that i have 20% left. im running radio 4.1.13.51_.03.07.90
hey i had the same problem, and i went to a 2200mah battery. its a lot bigger than the original one and it comes with a new cover. if u dont mind the size u should check it out im lovin it. by the way try overclocking it if you havent done it yet.
wouldnt overclocking it drain more battery?
andyxle said:
just bought a t-mobile dash used, phone was unmodded running the stock t-mobile rom. i flashed it to kavana 6.1 recently and i have been getting really bad battery life. like the phone wont even last throughout the whole day with basic usage, few phone calls and light texting. wifi just drains my battery in a matter of minutes. also my battery meter seems to be inconsistent like itll say i have 65% then when i reboot the phone it shows that i have 20% left. im running radio 4.1.13.51_.03.07.90
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Remember the dash is a 3 years old phone, even if you get a new phone at this point the battery it's the same age...so imagne if you get a used phone. I will recommend you to buy a new battery, I had the same issue...but I bought a new battery and problems solved
So are the replacement batteries just as old as the phone? How do you know your not buying one that has sat on the shelf for 3 years. I'm asking because I am almost to the point to where I need a new one.
I had 2 discouraging experiences on buying battery for my wife's dash in ebay. The 2 batteries appeared brand new but could not hold the charge. After few phone calls and email synch both batteries just drained outreal quick dropping from 100% to 60% right away and bad thing was that the phone turned off by itself. So I decided to call T-Mobile and recommended me to buy at HTC Accessories 1-888-716-3594. The new attery from HTC is way better and no issues so far. Price $29.99 + shipping.
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So are the replacement batteries just as old as the phone? How do you know your not buying one that has sat on the shelf for 3 years. I'm asking because I am almost to the point to where I need a new one.
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I have bought 2 batteries and both have been ok ,. I bought 1050 mAh (the grey ones) "For CHTCS620OLIO1" made in china, I Know they are been sold in ebay pretty cheap (960 mAh) but I bought them in here http://www.batteryship.com/htmlos/h...tml?item=EXCA160&model=HTC+S620&adsrc=yo273-1 since you get a warranty for at least of 1 year and a little bit more long lasting battery. When I do refer 3 year old phone and battery is the actual original battery that comes with the excalibur.
my friend just got a used dash stock everything but he got a new battery and charger takes 5 hours to charge then dies in 2 hours any suggestions?
brokali said:
my friend just got a used dash stock everything but he got a new battery and charger takes 5 hours to charge then dies in 2 hours any suggestions?
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What was he doing in that 2 hours? Was he using wifi, texting, or talking expansively during that time?

2x Battery + charger 2000mah($13.00)

Gonna try them out...not sure what i'm gonna get but for 13 bucks worth a try
http://cgi.ebay.com/2x-2000mAh-Batt...330459330057?pt=PDA_Accessories#ht_4942wt_911
Highly doubtful 2000ma batteries, probably 1500ma batteries that are really 1300ma. Tutoit on ebay I have 2x1500ma batteries for a 9.98$ shipped with a charger, I would get that instead.
yeah, either get the 2 1500s and the charger for 11 50
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290444598681#ht_1730wt_1137
or the 1800 and the charger for 11 50
http://cgi.ebay.com/1800mAh-Battery...250661003311?pt=PDA_Accessories#ht_3119wt_911
jayv1717 said:
Gonna try them out...not sure what i'm gonna get but for 13 bucks worth a try
http://cgi.ebay.com/2x-2000mAh-Batt...330459330057?pt=PDA_Accessories#ht_4942wt_911
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I was just looking at this... seems like a great idea... the extra charger allows you to keep a second battery charged without using the EVO to do it. Even if it's really a lower rated battery... still a good deal.
Did you try it?
Trident said:
I was just looking at this... seems like a great idea... the extra charger allows you to keep a second battery charged without using the EVO to do it. Even if it's really a lower rated battery... still a good deal.
Did you try it?
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I ordered it, but still waiting...those hong kong shipments take a while, i'll let you know as soon as I test it out
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I have a set of the 1500 mah batteries with the charger as was posted above, and I have no problem with them. I use my OEM battery most of the time, but sometimes it is handy to have some fully-charged back-ups. Honestly, I don't see much of a difference between what my OEM battery lasts and the knock-offs. For the price, you can't beat it.
so how are the batteries?
normally i would stay way from cheap Chinese crap on eBay, but with what i read here on the xda boards in regaurds t othe ok qualitybeing good enough that they might work out, so i ordered 2x1850 plus charger from ebay. i dont have time to do any real testing but i can say that:
1 not having to charge the battery from the phone is nice
2 i always have one on the charger, one in my pocket and one in the phone.
3 charging in the base seems to get me a better charge
4 i cant tell a difference between oem and knock offs, although you would think that the 1800's would last longer than the 1500oem but we know how that knock off crap goes. in my book if they are the same as oem, regardless as to what they claim and dont require a bigger back plate, then i guess that's good enough.
The 2 from tutoit or what ever the sellers name is work great last as long or longer then my stock battery. The charger also gives a better charge to the batteries then I get through my phone I'm talking extra hours when I charge with it.
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yeah, either get the 2 1500s and the charger for 11 50
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I got this and it's a good deal for the price.
The batteries aren't as good as oem. Probably last 75-80% as long.
The charger works well though and it's nice to have a couple extra batts laying around. I've only cycled them 4 or 5 times so I suppose the life could improve...time will tell.
rugedraw said:
I have a set of the 1500 mah batteries with the charger as was posted above, and I have no problem with them. I use my OEM battery most of the time, but sometimes it is handy to have some fully-charged back-ups. Honestly, I don't see much of a difference between what my OEM battery lasts and the knock-offs. For the price, you can't beat it.
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I Have a number of Minor issues with mine. Must of gotten a bad set.
1) USB port on the charger does not output enough juice to charge the phone (Accually Locks it up until I unplug it)
2) Charger seems hit or miss on recharging the Stock Battery. I've left it plugged in all night and come back to ~20% charge when I pop it in a number of times
3) Random Screen cut off when charging the Replacements IN the phone.
So I only charge the Ghetto batteries in the charger provided.
That being said, I STILL think it's a great deal and more than happy with my purchase. I have 2 spare batteries for my phone (Or the wifes CDMA Hero) and a way to charge one w/o having to leave my phone behind (I don't have to babysit my phone for a charge, If someone walks out of the poker room or party with my charger and battery it's no big deal) The 2 China batts. are just emergency tanks, The Red one gets put back in as soon as I get home.
Best Purchase at twice the price.
Don't wait press the BUY NOW!!!!
Loved the first set so much that I purchased a second set 2 weeks later. I keep 1 set at work and 1 set at home. I always carrying a fully charged battery in plastic bag in my pocket. I love the EVO but hate the battery life. The first month I owned the EVO was hell for me having to carry a power charger and cable everywhere. I hated having to plug my phone in every time I found a power outlet worried if I didn't I may find myself without a phone when I needed it or having to fight everyone at the airports for power outlets. Now when I'm low on juice, I just switch batteries.... BUY NOW you'll never regret it....
I purchased 2 3500 batteries with new backs on e-bay for $22 and change. They work great I can go for over a day with fairly heavy usage.
Only minor problem was that with the phone thicker my silicone case doesn't fit as good. Extra weight no problem.
Yeah one thing I have learned from buying these types of batteries and charger is that they don't like to charge the OEM batteries but charge the cheapo ones just fine. I've noticed it on alot of things not just phone batteries.
buy it for the charger
i bought a 2000mAh that turned out to be a 900mAh so i would only buy it for the charger.
I wouldn't recommend the 2 x 1500 batteries plus charters the 1500's seem like a 1300 or a little less I would say try get the 1800 one from eBay they have a lot of auctions for them so all you gotta do is be patient and try to get for cheap that's what I'm tryin to do
Just ordered one of the 1800mah.. will see how this works out!
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Sieidio Battery 1750mAh Extended Battery Review

I purchased the Sieidio Battery 1750mAh on Amazon about a month ago. This battery is not worth the money at all. If you want an extra battery then I suggest buying an OEM battery.
I might be wrong but I think this battery actually goes down faster than the one that came with the phone. My biggest problem with this battery is that it does not fit properly in the phone. It can just be set down or place in my pocket and that is enough to make the phone.
DON'T wast you money on this battery
_TXN_ said:
I purchased the Sieidio Battery 1750mAh on Amazon about a month ago. This battery is not worth the money at all. If you want an extra battery then I suggest buying an OEM battery.
I might be wrong but I think this battery actually goes down faster than the one that came with the phone. My biggest problem with this battery is that it does not fit properly in the phone. It can just be set down or place in my pocket and that is enough to make the phone.
DON'T wast you money on this battery
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I don't even understand your review, but I guess I do understand you are being negative.
But this battery works way better than the stock battery that came with my EVO. It ****s on the stock battery. Diarrhea.
Maybe it's just because I bought it for $50 from Best Buy. What a bargain!
Necrosan said:
I don't even understand your review, but I guess I do understand you are being negative.
But this battery works way better than the stock battery that came with my EVO. It ****s on the stock battery. Diarrhea.
Maybe it's just because I bought it for $50 from Best Buy. What a bargain!
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Sounds like too much for a 1750 battery. I'd rather just go all out and get the 3500
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_TXN_ said:
I purchased the Sieidio Battery 1750mAh on Amazon about a month ago. This battery is not worth the money at all. If you want an extra battery then I suggest buying an OEM battery.
I might be wrong but I think this battery actually goes down faster than the one that came with the phone. My biggest problem with this battery is that it does not fit properly in the phone. It can just be set down or place in my pocket and that is enough to make the phone.
DON'T wast you money on this battery
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I got two 1800mAh batteries for about $30, and experienced the same thing. After awhile though, I realized that you have to do a few things to get better battery life.
1) Charge the battery to full while the phone is on.
2) Unplug and plug back in to verify that the phone is fully charged (green led)
3) Turn the phone off
4) Unplug, plug in, and wait for a green led
5) Repeat that 5-10 times
6) Then while still plugged in, reboot into Recovery and wipe the battery stats via the advanced menu.
7) Reboot, and use your phone as you normally would.
This may sound like alot, but it really only take about 5 mins. Even after wipe, it will still take about 5 full discharges to reap the better battery life. Hope this helps!
I think its just luck of the draw on aftermarket batteries (the cheap ones at least)
I have heard good and bad on ALL of them.
I got the Chichitec/htcexpress 1800 batteries with charger. Came in the other day and I couldn't be happier. 14 hours on initial charge, that's unheard of for me. On my stock battery I had to keep the phone plugged in most of the day at work just to still have juice by the time I got home. And supposedly these things start acting even better after a few charge cycles.
(Fits with stock battery door too)
But for every person that has a good experience with any of these companies, there's someone else with a horror story.
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I purchased the Sieidio Battery 1750mAh on Amazon about a month ago. This battery is not worth the money at all. If you want an extra battery then I suggest buying an OEM battery.
I might be wrong but I think this battery actually goes down faster than the one that came with the phone. My biggest problem with this battery is that it does not fit properly in the phone. It can just be set down or place in my pocket and that is enough to make the phone.
DON'T wast you money on this battery
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Could have told you that before you bought it, ratings by aftermarket reputable companies are close and never accurate...if they rate it at 1750, it's probably 1500-1650... The stock is 1500 so yes you wasted your money. Now on the other hand, the 3500 is the best investment anyone could ever make....
It's been proven long ago seidio over rates their batteries. The "1750" is actually just under 1500, so less capacity then the stock battery.
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just terribad in my opinion, gonna stick to my seidio 3500. rather have the size and life than a small size and a measly bump from the 1750mah battery
They rated it less than a 1500 stock battery.
Key with extended batteries is that you actually have to charge them longer than your phone indicates.
Example: I phone said it was fully charged at 3:26am in the morning. Yet it continue to charge until at least 6:45am before it was constant. Granted I am using an SBC kernel but even without, you need to let it charge the night. Don't let the green light fool you. It takes a few extra hours to charge even if the led light is green!
You should just about fully drain your battery and then let it charge overnight. If you aren't on an SBC kernel you may actually want to charge your phone while it's off so that the battery dictates the charge.
You should also wipe your battery stats once the phone is fully charged.
Try that and see if it works for you. I know that I was getting great battery life even on the stock battery. I play "Word With friends" (at least 15 matches running) a lot (at least 15 matches running concurrently) and this game actually drains battery. I still got through the day fine though I also carry a Touch Pro 2 and having the batteries that are the same size allows me to swap when needed.
I have the 2650mah one from sprint and my 3500mah seidio coming in the mail tomorrow. I'll probably write a review for it later. Note, On my 2650mah, it's already on its 12th hour and I was was playing WWF, surfing the web, made several calls and it's still at 77%. I will leave it off the charger tonight and see how it fairs tomorrow.
Good Luck!
I have tested these and if they do last longer then stock, it is only like maybe 20 mins. I have an external charger as well as running the SBC kernel to get a complete charge. I have the sprint 2600 battery as well and love it. Not many cases for it but I have modified a sedio rugged and ballistic to work with it. I let my wife use it for a few days in her evo and had to fight to get it back from her.
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Battery Death!

Hello XDA,
I got a nice new gnex at I/O. I've kept it stock, rooted it, etc. Battery life has had a steady decline. Here are some stats:
Jun. 28: I/O
First complete day after using device. I looked at an old screenshot. 2 hours, 46 minutes of SCREEN ON time, and a 14 hour charge-day, left me at 1%. Complete rundown. Died right after.
November 9th: Recent
Another complete rundown. 1 hour, 58 minutes of SCREEN ON time, 9 HOUR charge-day. Died.
You'll notice I've only had this device for a few months.
Thoughts? I'm interested if this happens to anyone else. I've been charging it with a low-current ADK 2.0 adapter for the past couple months to charge it. Is that a problem? I assume the device has a nice power-regulator for charging. The original samsung adapter that came with my nexus remains unopened.
Will buying a cheap battery on ebay fix it? Do samsung phones (this is my first) have that same "battery stats" stuff like other devices?
I appreciate any help. Happy Thanksgiving!
jcarrz1
you may want to think about getting yourself the 2000 mAh battery instead of cheap china pack.
wow that is really good! does that one require the back cover that's a bit thicker though?
anyone have ideas why mine died (lost longevity) so quickly?
Yeah it has a new battery door that makes it slightly thicker. You can still use most cases, worst case scenario you can use a case w/o the door, that is what I am doing with my Commuter.
Sprint was giving away the official Samsung extended 2100Mah battery for free, it came with the rear batt door also. The bulk it added was sooo minimal, it actually made the phone seem to fit into the case better. I got the battery a few days after I got the phone so I have no idea of how much more time I got versus the stock one.
I also have a Scosche USB charger that has two USB ports on it one that is 1 amp and another that is 2.1 amps.The higher amperage port is made to charge the iPad since it has a huge battery and 1 amp will take forever to charge the thing. if I charge my phone in the 2.1 amp port it will fully charge my Gnex in half the time, will it burn up my battery maybe. But I only use it if I have to go somewhere and I need my batt to charge in a hurry. Normally I use the 1 amp port. I believe the phone regulates the charge and will cut it off when it senses the battery is full.

Battery replacement - experience so far

After becoming increasingly frustrated by poor battery performance, I decided to take the plunge and order a new battery from Amazon (UK) http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00SHVIV96?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00
After previously breaking the screen and damaging the USB socket / circuit board which required a new screen assembly+new ribbon cable the battery replacement was incredibly easy in comparison and took under 5 minutes.
The old battery had the date of 2013, October 24th, the new one date code 2015, February 14
With moderate usage i was getting about 12 hours battery with screen on time of around 1 hr 30 ( GSam battery monitor ) with heavy usage this was significantly less.
with light usage I was returning from Work with about 40% left, which then took around 45 minutes to fully charge back again to 100% using a wireless charger.
Also recently the battery wasn't even charging on the official charger, instead it would drop about 2% per hour and charge very slowly with Bluetooth/wifi etc switched off.
The New battery came with 45% charge and its been on charge now for over an hour ( same as the old battery) and its only increased by 20% so it appears to be taking much longer to charge.
Mine will be delivered tomorrow morning. I have big hopes because i am also getting poor battery with 2h of SOT . Will report my experience
One of the things I know about Lithium batteries is that when they start to loose capacity they will charge quick - but also drain quick.
so far the charging appears to be taking forever - gained about 12% in the last hour. There are a lot of people who want fast charging however at the moment if slow charging=better battery then all the better.
One of the things ive missed with the nexus 5 is a replaceable battery ( that is one that you can swap while away - no tools required) and in place of that Ive been using a portable power pack with QI built in ( Rav power ) thats about the same size as the nexus 5, the nexus 5 in a case+the rav power QI charger both fit in a pocket and the nexus will charge from the QI charger whilst both are in a pocket.
Day 1 of usage, and im currently showing 15-20% extra charge remaining usually i would be at 40% ( give or take 5%) today at the same time i was at 63%
I notice my Nexus 5's battery charges rather quick. And been losing power fast as well. Maybe a new battery.
So, is it so hard to replace my battery?
Because somehow my phone is heat so quickly (even on lightly use like chatting and 9gagging)
And also, my phone is draining so fast (after i plug out, it takes under 5 minutes to go from 100 to 99)
AndreIrawan97 said:
So, is it so hard to replace my battery?
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So long as you have the right tools for the job, it's actually fairly easy going - IFixIt has a pretty handy guide for it.
Its actualy easier than the giude makes it look - if you dont have the tools then you can buy repair kits
the only tricky parts may the the bottom of the back cover where there may be a small amount of adhesive, and getting the old battery out - again as a result of a small amount of adhesive.
I would advise that you have something soft to place your nexus down on so you dont scratch the screen, something to keep the little screws in so they dont get lost, and a flat/clear area.
with a little bit of thought the nexus 5 could have been designed with a user replaceable battery .
As for usage not much to report yet, I've re-set Gsam battery ( only realised that it need to be re-set) and its currently reporting screen on of 2hr 21 battery life of 8hr 43 although this has only just been re-set so it may change.
Is there a recommended seller at amazon.com?
Don't want to be scammed.
ovalfastlx said:
I notice my Nexus 5's battery charges rather quick. And been losing power fast as well. Maybe a new battery.
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Use a slow charger overnight or leave on the charge via computer USB port for whole night. Will help if you are doing fast charge all the time.
Changed mine couple days ago, i notice an increase in battery life compared to what i had before so i am happy. But i had difficulty taking out the old battery from the chassis, it was glued really fri*king hard. I hate adhesive
luckana said:
Changed mine couple days ago, i notice an increase in battery life compared to what i had before so i am happy. But i had difficulty taking out the old battery from the chassis, it was glued really fri*king hard. I hate adhesive
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yeah i remember when i replaced my cracked screen some months ago, removing the battery was the hardest part because of the adhesive. not that it was hard to get out but i had to be gentle not to damage the battery. any way our device has great repairability comparing to other devices which can be a nightmare. now i'm waiting for this battery to arrive and this time ti will not be difficult to remove since i have done it once. i hope this battery turns out good, i've heard good reviews of it even though it's not the default lg battery and has slightly more capacity.
What is the date of the new batteries is everyone buying ? Someone is selling me a one with February 2014 date, it is new , but I think it is too old. What do you think ? My phone has one made I think in November 2013 (first batch n5).
Where are you guys getting the batteries? I'm having trouble trusting these sellers.
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I purchased my battery from a company called ITSTEK via amazon, the same place where i purchased my replacement screen from.
The first screen was purchased from another seller, packed in bubble wrap and had been taken from another nexus 5 ( had damage marks where it had been removed)
the screen from ITSTEK was inside a sealed anti static bag with LG markings and Korean/Chinese (?) writing on.
As for battery life GSAM is now reporting battery life 15hrs 22 min ( was 12hours
Screen on 2hr 10 ( was 1hr 30)
while that may not sound great each time i check the app the figures are going up time goes by.
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What is the date of the new batteries is everyone buying ? Someone is selling me a one with February 2014 date, it is new , but I think it is too old. What do you think ? My phone has one made I think in November 2013 (first batch n5).
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If it's been kept cool and 60%charged should be OK. I'd rather a genuine one like that than a new copy off ebay
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ichundu said:
yeah i remember when i replaced my cracked screen some months ago, removing the battery was the hardest part because of the adhesive. Not that it was hard to get out but i had to be gentle not to damage the battery. Any way our device has great repairability comparing to other devices which can be a nightmare. Now i'm waiting for this battery to arrive and this time ti will not be difficult to remove since i have done it once. I hope this battery turns out good, i've heard good reviews of it even though it's not the default lg battery and has slightly more capacity.
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a hundred and fifty usd!!!!!!
BTW anyone who has not taken theirs out its easier to do if the phone is very warm. Use plastic tools.
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zerosum0 said:
a hundred and fifty usd!!!!!!
BTW anyone who has not taken theirs out its easier to do if the phone is very warm. Use plastic tools.
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They sold out at the moment that's the reason. when i contacted the seller he said their getting new delivery at the end of may and the price will be normal again.
Thx I'll get one too, for the extra MA. Least you know what you are getting with that make. I've changed mine but bigger is better.
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Thx I'll get one too, for the extra MA. Least you know what you are getting with that make. I've changed mine but bigger is better.
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Well i have received my polarcell battery and been using it for 3 days now. I have written my impressions in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=60795458

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