problem with new hicap battery - MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General

hi all
Just put in my hicap battery-2600mAh yesterday.
all attempts to charge it have failed however.
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the problem-
with new batt inserted, i plug in the charge cable
no charge light (orange), no low batt light (red)
once WM is booted, it shows that the status is Charging
but stays stuck at 0% even after an overnight charge.
Taking the charge cable out, the phone is ON for about 20 seconds,
then goes into Standby mode all by itself but does not actually switch OFF or run out of batt after n hour of mucking about on it
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it does not look like a dead battery as it is actually able to hold some amount of charge
a faulty battery perhaps?
or is there a special way to charge brand new batteries?
or a workaround to the problem?
thanks.

suggestions anyone?
resco2007 said the following in another post:
I wanted to let you know that I have the same problem with mine too : xda2 s do not like mosot chargers that is what it is but I have found a way around it, this is what you do- switch off the phone and then take off your batt for a split second and then put it back on , now the phone is off , now you can charge it,
It works for me and a few others
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but unfortunately ive not been able to get my phone to charge that way.
there dont seem to be a way for me to switch the phone off completely in that, when the little notch is push back in, it immediately boots...

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BA turning off if removed from cradle and not turning on again

Hello guys,
I have a problem, i haven't used my VPAIII for 6 months, and some days ago i wanted to turn it on, and it didn't react, so i decided that battery is low, i connected my device to cradle, and wait for some hours. So the problem is then device in cradle it's ok i can switch it on and it works perfectly, but if i remove it from cradle it turns off imediately and i can't turn on it again without connecting to cradle chargement, also it doesnt react to usb connection as chargment. Battery is totaly new it was bought from ebay (expanded 3400 mAH). Interesting thing that if i connect to cradle, device turns on automaticall and 1 time blinks led in red and goes booting system with no led light, after i see Windows screen it starting show the same right led in orange always, i see charging battery meter in windows but battery didnt go more then 50%, and everytime i boot on i receive Backup battery Very Low notification no matter how much i was charging my battery.
So i'm afraid maybe it's internal backup battery failure, or my main battery didn't get chargement then it says that charging. Maybe someone of You guys have any usefull advices, what can be the problem? Also if it possible maybe somebody can give me alink or image to see there this backup battery soldered on scheme.
Thanks ppl!!!
Raz
razorrazor said:
I have a problem, i haven't used my VPAIII for 6 months, and some days ago i wanted to turn it on, and it didn't react, so i decided that battery is low, i connected my device to cradle, and wait for some hours. So the problem is then device in cradle it's ok i can switch it on and it works perfectly, but if i remove it from cradle it turns off imediately and i can't turn on it again without connecting to cradle chargement, also it doesnt react to usb connection as chargment. Battery is totaly new it was bought from ebay (expanded 3400 mAH). Interesting thing that if i connect to cradle, device turns on automaticall and 1 time blinks led in red and goes booting system with no led light, after i see Windows screen it starting show the same right led in orange always, i see charging battery meter in windows but battery didnt go more then 50%, and everytime i boot on i receive Backup battery Very Low notification no matter how much i was charging my battery.
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It sounds like the main battery is bad.
Is the battery you picked up new, or new as of 6 months ago? If it's new-new, it is still possible that it is bad.
Also, the charging circuit may have died. Most electronics will work and work, and when they do die, it's usually when power is applied to them (turned on, charged, etc).
The fact that it does charge up to 50% makes me think the main battery is bad. Do you still have the original battery? Try it and see what that does.
razorrazor said:
So i'm afraid maybe it's internal backup battery failure, or my main battery didn't get chargement then it says that charging. Maybe someone of You guys have any usefull advices, what can be the problem? Also if it possible maybe somebody can give me alink or image to see there this backup battery soldered on scheme.
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The internal battery is used only when the main battery is discharged or missing.
As for a link, hit the wiki.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blueangel
Under the "Hacks & Tweaks" section, go into "Technical Stuff".
Thanks for reply, new battery i bought maybe 4-6 months ago i used it maybe 1 week, after that i turned off my device and left it for 4-6 months, so nothing should be happened to battery. I'll check device with old one, but it seems that device didn't work with original old one battery too.
Any other solutions, advices?
Thank You very much guys for help!!!!
RAZ

I might have killed my Battery (FIXED...for now)

Hey Guys,
I am running the Cell Pro 9.5 ROM and since yesterday my phone doesnt turn on.
So this is what happened, I never got a chance to recharge my phone yesterday and so I used it to the very last bit of juice. The phone kept switching itself off with the critical level battery warning and I kept turning it back on. So it got to a point where it wasn't switching on at all. So I pluged in the phone to the computer to charge and left it there for approximately an hour (the orange charging light was on), came back and tried to switch the phone back on and it didnt respond at all. Took out the battery, tried the soft reset button etc and everything else I thought of with no luck. So I plugged it back on and suddently it turned back on, did the boot up, loaded the touchflo and I saw the battery level was at "0" and then suddenly it turned of with a "tuck" sound (similar to a PC when you hold down the power button or turn the power off without shutting down). This has been repeating since then, I have left it plugged in and every 5-10 minutes or so the phone switches on by itself and shows the boot screen, go all the way till HTC animation and powers off suddenly. I have had no luck in turning the phone back on, I dont what is causing the issue - wether its the battery or the phone.
Please give me your thoughts....I am completely lost without my phone...
- issue was that the phone kept restarting as soon as the battery stored enough charge for a reboot. I pulled out the battery at one of the restart cycle as advised below and stopped it from repeating it. After that the phone let the battery charge without a restart, did not mess with it for a long while.
Never let the battery drain all the way down to 0%. Not sure if it affects the battery, but it sure will give you enough hassle that you wont repeat it.
DesperateScorpion151 said:
Hey Guys,
I am running the Cell Pro 9.5 ROM and since yesterday my phone doesnt turn on.
So this is what happened, I never got a chance to recharge my phone yesterday and so I used it to the very last bit of juice. The phone kept switching itself off with the critical level battery warning and I kept turning it back on. So it got to a point where it wasn't switching on at all. So I pluged in the phone to the computer to charge and left it there for approximately an hour (the orange charging light was on), came back and tried to switch the phone back on and it didnt respond at all. Took out the battery, tried the soft reset button etc and everything else I thought of with no luck. So I plugged it back on and suddently it turned back on, did the boot up, loaded the touchflo and I saw the battery level was at "0" and then suddenly it turned of with a "tuck" sound (similar to a PC when you hold down the power button or turn the power off without shutting down). This has been repeating since then, I have left it plugged in and every 5-10 minutes or so the phone switches on by itself and shows the boot screen, go all the way till HTC animation and powers off suddenly. I have had no luck in turning the phone back on, I dont what is causing the issue - wether its the battery or the phone.
Please give me your thoughts....I am completely lost without my phone...
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The same thing happened to me last night... but mine works now. what I thought it was is that it kept turning on as soon as it had enough battery to do so then it would die and repeat... So every time it would turn on
I would take the battery out and let it charge some more and then when it quit turning back on I left it overnight and now its on...
msn.debord said:
The same thing happened to me last night... but mine works now. what I thought it was is that it kept turning on as soon as it had enough battery to do so then it would die and repeat... So every time it would turn on
I would take the battery out and let it charge some more and then when it quit turning back on I left it overnight and now its on...
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Ok....I will try that and report back....
Sorry you pull the battery then the cord then put the battery back in then cord. Also it will take a lot longer if you charge it on the computer.
Never mind mine quit working again...
msn.debord said:
Never mind mine quit working again...
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I managed to get it charging after pulling out the battery and putting it back again. Charged it through a computer cause i dont have my charger with me.
I turned it on and the battery said 40% and now every second or so it is dropping by 1%. I can literally watch it dropping down sitting here. The phone doesnt want to charge when it is on. I plug in the usb and the LED turns orange and then turns off. Now the battery is at 25%, This is litterally in about a minute or less. I dont know whats wrong, is it the Battery?
I had this exact same thing happen to me twice on previous HTC hardware (wizard). The first time I couldn't save it and just had to buy a new battery. However, the second time it happened I was able to resurrect it once I got it plugged into a higher-current charging source, like the wall charger it came with, or even most car chargers (that's how I saved it when I couldn't get to my wall charger). I had to let it sit on there for about an hour before it held enough charge to stay on, and another 2 hours before it was fully charged, but it worked just fine after that.
You battery may indeed be toast from what you describe. I have had the experience of totally discharging the battery and the device not coming on at all. I recommend that if you do this, you should fully charge it using the wall charger NOT the computer (if the computer works at all. it didnt in my case). I have done this a few times now and the battery turned out fine each time.
jmmmmm said:
You battery may indeed be toast from what you describe. I have had the experience of totally discharging the battery and the device not coming on at all. I recommend that if you do this, you should fully charge it using the wall charger NOT the computer (if the computer works at all. it didnt in my case). I have done this a few times now and the battery turned out fine each time.
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Thanks.....
My issue seamed to be fixed. I had to rely on a computer as I didnt have access to my charger and by the time I did my phone was at approximately 65% charge. I plugged it in and charged it all the way to 100%. Replugged it and left it for a little more while to make sure it got charged completely. I have been using it since today morning 9am and now it is 2pm at 73% after couple of calls, messages and emails.
Few more charging cycles with the wall charger and I am hoping it will be back to normal.

[Q] Continuous reset after battery drained to 0%?

I let my phone's battery run out to zero. Then let it sit for a few days, I'm on vacation and I don't need my phone. Now, I am recharging my phone, but something strange happens. The phone is off, and the amber light shows that the battery is charging. After a few minutes, the phone turns itself on and the amber light goes off. The battery does not have enough juice to complete startup, and the phone dies halfway through boot. The battery then begins charging, phone turns on, etc. It's been doing this for several hours now. I can't turn the phone off while it's booting, as the OS to control the keys is not yet working. Any help, I've no idea!
5 minutes in charge should give you about 7-8% battery, enough to get it up and use it for 5 min or so. Sounds like you have a dead battery.
Hmm...doesn't seem possible, the phone is only 2 months old! I'll keep it connected and see what happens. Any idea why the phone turns itself on when not commanded? The problem isn't really the battery, the problem is that the phone won't stay off long enough to recharge fully.
Somebody else posted a thread with what sounds like the same problem -- just a few lines below yours. And devis posted the same answer there -- which sounds like the right answer.
If you have access to -- or go buy -- a new battery, that would be the thing to try.
I'm not a battery expert, but I think it's not a good idea to let the battery -- any Lithium battery -- go down to zero-dead. (That is, you should turn it off or charge it up when it drops below 10%-ish.) That could explain how a 2-month-old battery could die (if it is dead).
Assume you're trying to charge the phone with the AC-wall charger, not connected to the USB port on a computer?
If you can't turn off the phone to keep it from rebooting, I suggest you take out the battery, put it back in and let it charge for a few hours. I would just be careful to not accidentally turn on the phone. Hopefully this will bring your phone back. I read on another thread that if the battery drains completely, it may need to charge for a reasonable amount of time before you can boot it back up.
happens to me whenever i dont notice my battery draining to 0%..
it dies, and i try to turn it on.. turns on, then dies on boot.. plug in charger, and it goes through an endless cycle of turn on and die on boot.
take the battery out and put it back in, but don't push the power button. let it charge for 10-15 mins to let it get enough juice to boot all the way.. then continue charging it
This will also happen when the charger is not putting out enough power such as via usb cable. Make sure the phone is off and use an AC charger if you can.
For the archives, the problem was that the USB port on my computer went bad. I plugged it in to another computer and the phone charged normally. Now I have a broken USB to repair...on a laptop. Should be fun...
gromky said:
For the archives, the problem was that the USB port on my computer went bad. I plugged it in to another computer and the phone charged normally. Now I have a broken USB to repair...on a laptop. Should be fun...
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If you have the AC wall charger that works better anyway. Some USB ports of some laptops won't work at all -- not because they're broken but because they don't put out enough power -- by design.

Desire DEAD!?

Hi having a little problem with my phone, ive taken it to a few shops and neither could fix it.
ill tell you what i did, i s-off'd my device and it worked well but i didnt like the joker boot splash so i reflashed clockwork mod recovery in hope it would get rid and it did, then i wanted to partition my SD card but realised you couldnt do it through that recovery so i went back to the alpharev recovery! partitioned my sd card and flashed Defrost 6.0k which id had running before the hd rom i had on, i then rebooted my phone and it got stuck in boot loop for some reason? i removed the battery booted into fastboot and it just came up with a blank black screen so i removed the battery again put it back in and tada no power? no led when on charge? any help would be appreciated!
How long have you left it plugged into the charger for? Leave it for about 10 minutes and see if you get any joy with the led.
If that does work, you may have the USB brick. I'm just clutching at straws at the minute though!
i have left it on charge all night still absolutely nothing
Do you get any response when you plug it into a computer? Can you see it using adb?
Me too...
My Desire stopped also working today. Practically same symptoms...
In my case the origin is different, I was on Adamg Oxygen 2.0.1. and loaded the latest kernel from Thalamus 2.6.37 R5. All good, the phone was working for a few hours without issues. Went to sleep and left the phone charging (as usual).
This morning the phone was off, no way to turn it on. No led on charging (probably because batt is full). I can see the leds (green/orange) when on charge and batt off, but it doesnt start, no way to force start to recovery (power+vol-down), no view from laptop via adb, in fact it doesnt even identify the device, which I guess is natural if the device is not starting.
Needless to say that any ideas are more than welcome...
I'm not an expert but it might be dead battery aswell, no idea why people leave their phones charging all night long.. i charge my Desire from about 10% to full in like 1 hour.
u need to take out the batt an see if u can charge it whitout using the phone to charge it
First, thanks for taking the time to reply...
For reference, the batt is full, I checked it with a voltimeter and it is good.
I discharged the batt a bit as well, but so far nothing works...
So not a problem with dead batt...
Ive tried charging without the battery in too, no sign of life!!!
For further reference in case anyone is interested.
Battery is charged (tried with another mobile which started without issue).
I also used the batt from another unit in this "dead" one and same behavior, i.e. no turn on, etc.
Only behavior I can easily replicate:
Phone is off, no charger, batt is removed. Now I place the batt in and connect the charger, the orange lef comes up as if it were charging.
When I press the power button (or the VOL-Down with Power), the led goes off and stays off, the only way to go back to seeing the orange led again is to again, remove batt and charger cable, and then putting again back the batt and the charger (in that order).

[Q] Galaxy Nexus i9250 problem.

Hey everyone. I have huge problem with my Galaxy Nexus i9250 for few days now.
Let me start from beggining.
First it was showing charging symbol even if it ain't plugged in. Then it stopped after I cleaned charging port.
Few weeks back there were great floods in my region (Bosnia) and we were in lack of electricity so I started to charge it on a car charger and after it's completely charged (2h) as soon as I start to use it the battery goes off really fast, example, if I use it for let's say calls or even on "stand by" after 30mins the battery goes for like 40%. That's when problems started to begin. If it was turned off becuase of lack of battery I had to turn it on by pressing "Down volume + power" for first 2 times. Then I had to remove battery for few seconds then put it back not completely but I had to press the battery against those 4 pins which conduct electricity to a cell phone and press those two buttons for like 30 seconds to turn it on. Few days ago, I had same problem, but this time it wasnt empty on battery, it was in my pocked with almost 50% of battery when I took it and I saw it was off. Tried again that same proccedure, it turned on, showed recovery menu and it turned off. Ever since I can't turn it on, it charges, but it doesn't show charging indicator on my screen. When I put my battery in other phone it shows it's fully charged. I can't turn it on, my PC won't reconize it, let's say it's dead. I don't know what's happening, so I'm asking here if anyone knows what to do. Thanks to all.
sounds like a battery + charger issue
aLvindeBa said:
Hey everyone. I have huge problem with my Galaxy Nexus i9250 for few days now.
Let me start from beggining.
First it was showing charging symbol even if it ain't plugged in. Then it stopped after I cleaned charging port.
Few weeks back there were great floods in my region (Bosnia) and we were in lack of electricity so I started to charge it on a car charger and after it's completely charged (2h) as soon as I start to use it the battery goes off really fast, example, if I use it for let's say calls or even on "stand by" after 30mins the battery goes for like 40%. That's when problems started to begin. If it was turned off becuase of lack of battery I had to turn it on by pressing "Down volume + power" for first 2 times. Then I had to remove battery for few seconds then put it back not completely but I had to press the battery against those 4 pins which conduct electricity to a cell phone and press those two buttons for like 30 seconds to turn it on. Few days ago, I had same problem, but this time it wasnt empty on battery, it was in my pocked with almost 50% of battery when I took it and I saw it was off. Tried again that same proccedure, it turned on, showed recovery menu and it turned off. Ever since I can't turn it on, it charges, but it doesn't show charging indicator on my screen. When I put my battery in other phone it shows it's fully charged. I can't turn it on, my PC won't reconize it, let's say it's dead. I don't know what's happening, so I'm asking here if anyone knows what to do. Thanks to all.
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You must verify the voltage output of the car adapter you were using with the phone , remember that the fact it has a micro USB does not mean its designed to the specs of your phone, sounds like the battery went berserk after it was charged with that car adapter ... you should not tinker more with the phone and get a new battery and the original charger for it , if you can or are able to ...
Frank Hilario said:
You must verify the voltage output of the car adapter you were using with the phone , remember that the fact it has a micro USB does not mean its designed to the specs of your phone, sounds like the battery went berserk after it was charged with that car adapter ... you should not tinker more with the phone and get a new battery and the original charger for it , if you can or are able to ...
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Thank you Frank. I already tought nobody will reply to this. So you think if I buy new battery and charger cell phone will start to work?
Car charger was combined, USB cable from Nokia and car adapter is for let's say every cell phone. I have original Samsung Nexus wall charger I got with that cell phone and it charges the battery it just wont turn on the phone. Either PC doesnt want to reconize it, tried with Device Manager to see if is there anything but no. Thank you again for your reply.
Still no luck! Does anyone have something to suggest?
Hmmmm .... still would go for battery malfunction !
aLvindeBa said:
Still no luck! Does anyone have something to suggest?
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you say it charges the battery ? if you are able to see the white icon of the battery charging when the phone is off and you connect the charger , then it's definitely the phone battery .... replace it and lets hope it works out
Frank Hilario said:
you say it charges the battery ? if you are able to see the white icon of the battery charging when the phone is off and you connect the charger , then it's definitely the phone battery .... replace it and lets hope it works out
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No, I'm unable to see battery charging indicator. But when I lick the battery you can feel the electricity. Yea, it's stupid method but it does the job. And when I put it in another phone it says it's almost full 99% to be exact. So battery... Gonna buy a new one.
aLvindeBa said:
Hey everyone. I have huge problem with my Galaxy Nexus i9250 for few days now.
Let me start from beggining.
First it was showing charging symbol even if it ain't plugged in. Then it stopped after I cleaned charging port.
Few weeks back there were great floods in my region (Bosnia) and we were in lack of electricity so I started to charge it on a car charger and after it's completely charged (2h) as soon as I start to use it the battery goes off really fast, example, if I use it for let's say calls or even on "stand by" after 30mins the battery goes for like 40%. That's when problems started to begin. If it was turned off becuase of lack of battery I had to turn it on by pressing "Down volume + power" for first 2 times. Then I had to remove battery for few seconds then put it back not completely but I had to press the battery against those 4 pins which conduct electricity to a cell phone and press those two buttons for like 30 seconds to turn it on. Few days ago, I had same problem, but this time it wasnt empty on battery, it was in my pocked with almost 50% of battery when I took it and I saw it was off. Tried again that same proccedure, it turned on, showed recovery menu and it turned off. Ever since I can't turn it on, it charges, but it doesn't show charging indicator on my screen. When I put my battery in other phone it shows it's fully charged. I can't turn it on, my PC won't reconize it, let's say it's dead. I don't know what's happening, so I'm asking here if anyone knows what to do. Thanks to all.
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Alright, i have been sailing in the same boat, my i9250 has not been charging for quite some time.
Now for all most few months the phone is charging without any problem. I suspect the Google Search application could be the reason. I uninstalled all the Google Search application update and kept it to the one come by default. Since then i am able to charge my phone without any problem. The Google search version that i have is V 2.2.9.542574.
Try it out. All the best!!

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