BA turning off if removed from cradle and not turning on again - MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General

Hello guys,
I have a problem, i haven't used my VPAIII for 6 months, and some days ago i wanted to turn it on, and it didn't react, so i decided that battery is low, i connected my device to cradle, and wait for some hours. So the problem is then device in cradle it's ok i can switch it on and it works perfectly, but if i remove it from cradle it turns off imediately and i can't turn on it again without connecting to cradle chargement, also it doesnt react to usb connection as chargment. Battery is totaly new it was bought from ebay (expanded 3400 mAH). Interesting thing that if i connect to cradle, device turns on automaticall and 1 time blinks led in red and goes booting system with no led light, after i see Windows screen it starting show the same right led in orange always, i see charging battery meter in windows but battery didnt go more then 50%, and everytime i boot on i receive Backup battery Very Low notification no matter how much i was charging my battery.
So i'm afraid maybe it's internal backup battery failure, or my main battery didn't get chargement then it says that charging. Maybe someone of You guys have any usefull advices, what can be the problem? Also if it possible maybe somebody can give me alink or image to see there this backup battery soldered on scheme.
Thanks ppl!!!
Raz

razorrazor said:
I have a problem, i haven't used my VPAIII for 6 months, and some days ago i wanted to turn it on, and it didn't react, so i decided that battery is low, i connected my device to cradle, and wait for some hours. So the problem is then device in cradle it's ok i can switch it on and it works perfectly, but if i remove it from cradle it turns off imediately and i can't turn on it again without connecting to cradle chargement, also it doesnt react to usb connection as chargment. Battery is totaly new it was bought from ebay (expanded 3400 mAH). Interesting thing that if i connect to cradle, device turns on automaticall and 1 time blinks led in red and goes booting system with no led light, after i see Windows screen it starting show the same right led in orange always, i see charging battery meter in windows but battery didnt go more then 50%, and everytime i boot on i receive Backup battery Very Low notification no matter how much i was charging my battery.
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It sounds like the main battery is bad.
Is the battery you picked up new, or new as of 6 months ago? If it's new-new, it is still possible that it is bad.
Also, the charging circuit may have died. Most electronics will work and work, and when they do die, it's usually when power is applied to them (turned on, charged, etc).
The fact that it does charge up to 50% makes me think the main battery is bad. Do you still have the original battery? Try it and see what that does.
razorrazor said:
So i'm afraid maybe it's internal backup battery failure, or my main battery didn't get chargement then it says that charging. Maybe someone of You guys have any usefull advices, what can be the problem? Also if it possible maybe somebody can give me alink or image to see there this backup battery soldered on scheme.
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The internal battery is used only when the main battery is discharged or missing.
As for a link, hit the wiki.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blueangel
Under the "Hacks & Tweaks" section, go into "Technical Stuff".

Thanks for reply, new battery i bought maybe 4-6 months ago i used it maybe 1 week, after that i turned off my device and left it for 4-6 months, so nothing should be happened to battery. I'll check device with old one, but it seems that device didn't work with original old one battery too.
Any other solutions, advices?
Thank You very much guys for help!!!!
RAZ

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what does mean a very fast flashing red led

hey guys i just bought a new battery for my jasjar, the phone isnt booting even if the charger is plugged in, it only boot for like 6 seconds before it turn off again, even if i charged the new battery for 10 hours, even there is no orange led tell that the battery is charging... i plugged the phone into the USB cable with the pc and a fast flashing red light comes from the led (like 3 flashes per second) so what is the problem? is the new battery damaged or what? please help
djgaby said:
hey guys i just bought a new battery for my jasjar, the phone isnt booting even if the charger is plugged in, it only boot for like 6 seconds before it turn off again, even if i charged the new battery for 10 hours, even there is no orange led tell that the battery is charging... i plugged the phone into the USB cable with the pc and a fast flashing red light comes from the led (like 3 flashes per second) so what is the problem? is the new battery damaged or what? please help
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In all probability you have received a deffective battery. Please obtain a replacement or refund.
djgaby said:
hey guys i just bought a new battery for my jasjar, the phone isnt booting even if the charger is plugged in, it only boot for like 6 seconds before it turn off again, even if i charged the new battery for 10 hours, even there is no orange led tell that the battery is charging... i plugged the phone into the USB cable with the pc and a fast flashing red light comes from the led (like 3 flashes per second) so what is the problem? is the new battery damaged or what? please help
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red light means extremely low batt.....guess your battery is faulty
i got the same thing.
and no it's not the battery.
it's the charging circuit on the main hardware isn't working.
open your phone and check the five small wires that they connect the mini usb to the main mother board, one of them must be cut.
Ninlour said:
i got the same thing.
and no it's not the battery.
it's the charging circuit on the main hardware isn't working.
open your phone and check the five small wires that they connect the mini usb to the main mother board, one of them must be cut.
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so, is there a solution to this? or there really is nothing more for the device but the trash bin or for spare parts?
Have you tried this?
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=UniversalBatteryIssue
If you already replaced the battery and nothing, and you want to get rid of dear Uni place it for sell in parts on marketplace, a lot of people will go for it!
djgaby said:
hey guys i just bought a new battery for my jasjar, the phone isnt booting even if the charger is plugged in, it only boot for like 6 seconds before it turn off again, even if i charged the new battery for 10 hours, even there is no orange led tell that the battery is charging... i plugged the phone into the USB cable with the pc and a fast flashing red light comes from the led (like 3 flashes per second) so what is the problem? is the new battery damaged or what? please help
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I had exactly the same thing with my old battery,after my try to discharge it with a lil electro-motor. then i found a post of a guy with the same thing,who fixed it-by "zapping" the UNI battery with a 9V battery,connecting + to + and - to -,for a few second. I tried it without thinking twice. It worked for me. Dunno how and why,but it did. I use the battery again,normal. But beware,it is dangerous to play with this type of battery,it can explode. Do a search on this subject and you will see
I agree with keeping_sg
how long have you left your uni on the charger?
just plug it in and leave it on the charger all night and see what happens.
I bought yesterday a 4800mAh battery from Hong Kong... 10 euros included shipping + FREE black back cover
Good battery life but still prefer to carry 2 original sized batts rather than get that big one, making even bigger our Uni
Respectfully,
Yes, that absolutely means your battery is dead. Try charging for a few more hours and then turn on your PocketPC. If the error persists, try changing the battery.
Regards,
Carty..
Yes, that absolutely means your battery is dead. Try charging for a few more hours and then turn on your PocketPC. If the error persists, try changing the battery.
Regards,
Carty..

problem with new hicap battery

hi all
Just put in my hicap battery-2600mAh yesterday.
all attempts to charge it have failed however.
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the problem-
with new batt inserted, i plug in the charge cable
no charge light (orange), no low batt light (red)
once WM is booted, it shows that the status is Charging
but stays stuck at 0% even after an overnight charge.
Taking the charge cable out, the phone is ON for about 20 seconds,
then goes into Standby mode all by itself but does not actually switch OFF or run out of batt after n hour of mucking about on it
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it does not look like a dead battery as it is actually able to hold some amount of charge
a faulty battery perhaps?
or is there a special way to charge brand new batteries?
or a workaround to the problem?
thanks.
suggestions anyone?
resco2007 said the following in another post:
I wanted to let you know that I have the same problem with mine too : xda2 s do not like mosot chargers that is what it is but I have found a way around it, this is what you do- switch off the phone and then take off your batt for a split second and then put it back on , now the phone is off , now you can charge it,
It works for me and a few others
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but unfortunately ive not been able to get my phone to charge that way.
there dont seem to be a way for me to switch the phone off completely in that, when the little notch is push back in, it immediately boots...

p3300 no power; no charging lights etc. sometimes boots just fine

i have a p3300; no power lights when charger is connected; doesn't power on as well. battery is fully charged, battery and charger are both fine. but sometimes the p3300 powers on just fine; if i connect the ac charger then it also charges the battery. but it hangs in windows mobile 5 after some time (trackball and buttons and system does not respond anymore); after a soft reset no power/power lights or boot at all. then after some time and fiddling it might power on again and the cycle starts again.
i know it is a common problem; but is there a solution?
the backup battery (yes, there is one in it. the same as in the qtek 8310) gives me 0.20 volt. not sure how much it should be. but the backup battery in my qtek 8310 gives also 0.20 volt. not sure whether both are drained or that the voltage is normal.
will a drained backupbattery prevent it from booting up fine? or... hope to get it up running reliable again; great navigation phone with tomtom.
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without the battery installed i get a red light flashing quickly if i put the 5volt charger on it; same if i connect an usb cable (connected to my computer);
if i have the battery installed; i do not get a red light flashing.
with the battery plugged in and the charger plugged in; i don't see any charging lights. but it does charges my battery; i started with 3.7 volt, and it is going up (now at 3.9 volt).
in both instances i cannot get it to power on/into bootloader mode.
i've got exactly the same issue
I was given this phone by my brother as its broken, i tend to get alot of his broken stuff anyway i stripped the phone down and found that the little battery inside had leaked so i did a little bit of hack wiring and bodged a 3.3 volt battery used in a PC to power the cmos chip well it seems to have sorted the problem apart from the fact there are two wires hanging out of the phone but i've also noticed this battery voltage has dropped to 2.6 v now and still dropping over the days i'm guessing i'm going to have to make it replaceable.
oh just for the record
my brother tried a replacement main battery on it originally and tried flashing it with a clean rom to try and fix it but it carried on hence passing it on to me
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...to both of you...
buy a new battery..
leave it OFF while charging!!!
when the green led comes on (orange while charging... red flashing indicates battery is dead)
done.. turn it on..
batterys are cheep on ebay..
(if this dont work, pm me.. it could be something totaly differant but buying a new battery is the usual soloution for this common problem)

After self turn from low battery, Desire wont turn on

Hi to all, last night my desire ran out of battery and i' was nowhere near my charger cause i left it at my office.
i try to turn it on and send txt message but it was automaticaly turned off again before i can get to the homescreen.
without waiting too long i try to turn it on again and still i can't get to write a single letter cause it was automaticaly turned off itself again.
this morning when i get my hands on the charger i quickly plug the charger but the amber light aren't turning on, yes my desire wont turn on either, i try to connect it with adb and when i type adb devices the adb tool shows there are no devices connected.
Please help me how to turn my Desire on again, fyi i already plug the charger for more than half hour without any led on my phone lights on.
Anyone knows any workaround on this problem, maybe experiencing the same issue?
Thank's in advance
If you're using the stock battery which is Li-on, then the problem might be that you killed it by forcing the usage after the shutdown. Li-on batteries should NEVER be juiced out to a true 0%, or it will die. That's why the Desire turns off most of the time between 10-15% to make sure this doesn't happen. (Other mobile phones do this too, but they report it to you as 0% instead of the arbitrary 10-15%) I do hope so that this is not the case with your problem. Sorry if I only gave an explanation instead of a solution, but that's all I can think about right now.
groovepeppy said:
Hi to all, last night my desire ran out of battery and i' was nowhere near my charger cause i left it at my office.
i try to turn it on and send txt message but it was automaticaly turned off again before i can get to the homescreen.
without waiting too long i try to turn it on again and still i can't get to write a single letter cause it was automaticaly turned off itself again.
this morning when i get my hands on the charger i quickly plug the charger but the amber light aren't turning on, yes my desire wont turn on either, i try to connect it with adb and when i type adb devices the adb tool shows there are no devices connected.
Please help me how to turn my Desire on again, fyi i already plug the charger for more than half hour without any led on my phone lights on.
Anyone knows any workaround on this problem, maybe experiencing the same issue?
Thank's in advance
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try removing the battery and put it again. then plug the charge. wait for some time. hopefully it should fix it, else you need to try replacing your battery if it was not replaced recently.
kalizu said:
If you're using the stock battery which is Li-on, then the problem might be that you killed it by forcing the usage after the shutdown. Li-on batteries should NEVER be juiced out to a true 0%, or it will die. That's why the Desire turns off most of the time between 10-15% to make sure this doesn't happen. (Other mobile phones do this too, but they report it to you as 0% instead of the arbitrary 10-15%) I do hope so that this is not the case with your problem. Sorry if I only gave an explanation instead of a solution, but that's all I can think about right now.
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kmaq said:
try removing the battery and put it again. then plug the charge. wait for some time. hopefully it should fix it, else you need to try replacing your battery if it was not replaced recently.
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Thank's a lot for your respond my friends
My friend help me by trying to manually (connect the - and the + terminal with his blackberry charger) charge my battery for about a minute and then quickly insert the batt and plug the charger.
The orange light lit again but it took about 7 hours to reach 100%, after i unplug, the batt went down faster than Rossi's motoGP bike
2 hours standby and it went off.
I thought it better be charged again with the phone off and so i did.
After about 20 min, my phone vibrates as if there were a call coming in (phone was off) so in a rush i quickly unplug the phone and took the batt off (i'm worried it will damage my phone)
Since then, the batt won't recharge AGAIN, the orange led aren't lit no more.
Sorry for those long letters, one more question, do you guys think i have to get new battery or should i try to do the charging again?
Thank's in advance
My bet is the battery is gone
Droidzone said:
My bet is the battery is gone
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+1
New battery is about £35.. dunno how much that is in Indonesia. I'd strongly recommend buying an original battery also, not a cheap knock off - bad ones can have very poor battery life, overheat, melt (even "explode" sometimes), and just in general kill your phone.
thank's a lot guys, will be lookin' for the genuine replacement today, tell ya the result later.
Thank's again for answering my worries
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Ok guys, i got my genuine new battery which cost me around 24-26 Euro's
Test the battery at the store to show that it was charging and it was charging ok so i turn off the phone and go home.
Plug the charger as soon as i get home and the orange led didn't lit, to make the story short i presume that something is wrong with my phone, it drains the battery whether the phone was on or off!
Sending to the Collect Point for sure tonite after work.
Thank's a lot for you who read and answer my question.

[Q] Galaxy Nexus i9250 problem.

Hey everyone. I have huge problem with my Galaxy Nexus i9250 for few days now.
Let me start from beggining.
First it was showing charging symbol even if it ain't plugged in. Then it stopped after I cleaned charging port.
Few weeks back there were great floods in my region (Bosnia) and we were in lack of electricity so I started to charge it on a car charger and after it's completely charged (2h) as soon as I start to use it the battery goes off really fast, example, if I use it for let's say calls or even on "stand by" after 30mins the battery goes for like 40%. That's when problems started to begin. If it was turned off becuase of lack of battery I had to turn it on by pressing "Down volume + power" for first 2 times. Then I had to remove battery for few seconds then put it back not completely but I had to press the battery against those 4 pins which conduct electricity to a cell phone and press those two buttons for like 30 seconds to turn it on. Few days ago, I had same problem, but this time it wasnt empty on battery, it was in my pocked with almost 50% of battery when I took it and I saw it was off. Tried again that same proccedure, it turned on, showed recovery menu and it turned off. Ever since I can't turn it on, it charges, but it doesn't show charging indicator on my screen. When I put my battery in other phone it shows it's fully charged. I can't turn it on, my PC won't reconize it, let's say it's dead. I don't know what's happening, so I'm asking here if anyone knows what to do. Thanks to all.
sounds like a battery + charger issue
aLvindeBa said:
Hey everyone. I have huge problem with my Galaxy Nexus i9250 for few days now.
Let me start from beggining.
First it was showing charging symbol even if it ain't plugged in. Then it stopped after I cleaned charging port.
Few weeks back there were great floods in my region (Bosnia) and we were in lack of electricity so I started to charge it on a car charger and after it's completely charged (2h) as soon as I start to use it the battery goes off really fast, example, if I use it for let's say calls or even on "stand by" after 30mins the battery goes for like 40%. That's when problems started to begin. If it was turned off becuase of lack of battery I had to turn it on by pressing "Down volume + power" for first 2 times. Then I had to remove battery for few seconds then put it back not completely but I had to press the battery against those 4 pins which conduct electricity to a cell phone and press those two buttons for like 30 seconds to turn it on. Few days ago, I had same problem, but this time it wasnt empty on battery, it was in my pocked with almost 50% of battery when I took it and I saw it was off. Tried again that same proccedure, it turned on, showed recovery menu and it turned off. Ever since I can't turn it on, it charges, but it doesn't show charging indicator on my screen. When I put my battery in other phone it shows it's fully charged. I can't turn it on, my PC won't reconize it, let's say it's dead. I don't know what's happening, so I'm asking here if anyone knows what to do. Thanks to all.
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You must verify the voltage output of the car adapter you were using with the phone , remember that the fact it has a micro USB does not mean its designed to the specs of your phone, sounds like the battery went berserk after it was charged with that car adapter ... you should not tinker more with the phone and get a new battery and the original charger for it , if you can or are able to ...
Frank Hilario said:
You must verify the voltage output of the car adapter you were using with the phone , remember that the fact it has a micro USB does not mean its designed to the specs of your phone, sounds like the battery went berserk after it was charged with that car adapter ... you should not tinker more with the phone and get a new battery and the original charger for it , if you can or are able to ...
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Thank you Frank. I already tought nobody will reply to this. So you think if I buy new battery and charger cell phone will start to work?
Car charger was combined, USB cable from Nokia and car adapter is for let's say every cell phone. I have original Samsung Nexus wall charger I got with that cell phone and it charges the battery it just wont turn on the phone. Either PC doesnt want to reconize it, tried with Device Manager to see if is there anything but no. Thank you again for your reply.
Still no luck! Does anyone have something to suggest?
Hmmmm .... still would go for battery malfunction !
aLvindeBa said:
Still no luck! Does anyone have something to suggest?
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you say it charges the battery ? if you are able to see the white icon of the battery charging when the phone is off and you connect the charger , then it's definitely the phone battery .... replace it and lets hope it works out
Frank Hilario said:
you say it charges the battery ? if you are able to see the white icon of the battery charging when the phone is off and you connect the charger , then it's definitely the phone battery .... replace it and lets hope it works out
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No, I'm unable to see battery charging indicator. But when I lick the battery you can feel the electricity. Yea, it's stupid method but it does the job. And when I put it in another phone it says it's almost full 99% to be exact. So battery... Gonna buy a new one.
aLvindeBa said:
Hey everyone. I have huge problem with my Galaxy Nexus i9250 for few days now.
Let me start from beggining.
First it was showing charging symbol even if it ain't plugged in. Then it stopped after I cleaned charging port.
Few weeks back there were great floods in my region (Bosnia) and we were in lack of electricity so I started to charge it on a car charger and after it's completely charged (2h) as soon as I start to use it the battery goes off really fast, example, if I use it for let's say calls or even on "stand by" after 30mins the battery goes for like 40%. That's when problems started to begin. If it was turned off becuase of lack of battery I had to turn it on by pressing "Down volume + power" for first 2 times. Then I had to remove battery for few seconds then put it back not completely but I had to press the battery against those 4 pins which conduct electricity to a cell phone and press those two buttons for like 30 seconds to turn it on. Few days ago, I had same problem, but this time it wasnt empty on battery, it was in my pocked with almost 50% of battery when I took it and I saw it was off. Tried again that same proccedure, it turned on, showed recovery menu and it turned off. Ever since I can't turn it on, it charges, but it doesn't show charging indicator on my screen. When I put my battery in other phone it shows it's fully charged. I can't turn it on, my PC won't reconize it, let's say it's dead. I don't know what's happening, so I'm asking here if anyone knows what to do. Thanks to all.
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Alright, i have been sailing in the same boat, my i9250 has not been charging for quite some time.
Now for all most few months the phone is charging without any problem. I suspect the Google Search application could be the reason. I uninstalled all the Google Search application update and kept it to the one come by default. Since then i am able to charge my phone without any problem. The Google search version that i have is V 2.2.9.542574.
Try it out. All the best!!

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