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IPhone's interface

Hi ! I have my Touch HD since around 1 week now.
I'm very happy with it , but and i wonder if it would be possible to modify the manilla interface in order to have something silimar to the Iphone's interface.
I find great to have an instant access to most used programs and functions on the first page, and i believe it's possible to have this feature on our HD.
I've tried to load the "IFonz" but without any success (http://thedogcorner.blogspot.com/2008/10/ifonz-112.html)
Moreover, IFonz is not available for WVGA... so if there would be a kind developper that would make me this present for X'mas, it would be great !!!!
Please help the "deseperate housemen" i am !!!:

roger18 said:
Hi ! I have my Touch HD since around 1 week now.
I'm very happy with it , but and i wonder if it would be possible to modify the manilla interface in order to have something silimar to the Iphone's interface.
I find great to have an instant access to most used programs and functions on the first page, and i believe it's possible to have this feature on our HD.
I've tried to load the "IFonz" but without any success (http://thedogcorner.blogspot.com/2008/10/ifonz-112.html)
Moreover, IFonz is not available for WVGA... so if there would be a kind developper that would make me this present for X'mas, it would be great !!!!
Please help the "deseperate housemen" i am !!!:
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it doesn't exist yet as far as I know but the best way to do it would be with WAD2 (Wisbar Advanced Desktop 2). You should grab it and start toying with ideas there is a thread that discusses wisbar and HD here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=462785
and just for you here is a link to others testing out wisbar iphone themes on youtube here http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=wisbar+iphone&search_type=&aq=f

Waouw ! WAD2 looks very promising !!!
Tks a lot ! (1 beer for u, bro )
Same as u : i don't understand too why this topic isn't hotter
I'll try to bring my modest contribution when i have some time...
Cheeeers !

Most of us who chose the hd had one specific thing in mind and that is not to be an apple sheep.
ps. all the programs that you want in any order you like is just one swipe away, if that is too much work for you I think you are better off with the real iphone

Ifonz run good on my Toshiba G900, 480x800 pixel, then I think it will run on HD too. I've to wait another 2 days to have my HD, when I'll have it, I'll test .
If you don't have framework 3.5 installed, try to install it first.

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I guess I am not an Apple sheep, but Iphone is a really unique piece of HW. I just don´t like its SW limitations. On my previous device I was very happy with iFonz. It looks cool and is very fast and responsive and you can customize it as well. Much better than Mobile Shell and others..
But I am looking forward to having new pointui on my HD. I hope they finish their project soon.

Did you try to keep TF3D, but you change the order of tabs, and put the progs tab in first ?

iPhone Similar Interface
Hello
You may want to try out a commercial software package called Winterface, it's gives a similar interface as found on the iPhone.
KaidM

Wait till Point UI v2 and then tell me if you want the iphones limited interface!
the ultimate device the HD + Point UI v2 = iphone killer!

umexed said:
Wait till Point UI v2 and then tell me if you want the iphones limited interface!
the ultimate device the HD + Point UI v2 = iphone killer!
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where can i find this point ui for the hd (with wvga)

umexed said:
Wait till Point UI v2 and then tell me if you want the iphones limited interface!
the ultimate device the HD + Point UI v2 = iphone killer!
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You are completely right, I consider Point UI v2 the right compromise between iphone interface and TF3D. I hope it will be out soon becouse as you have sad, HD will be the real iphone killer

Decided to give the iphone interface a go with WAD2 and it works great. This is just the front page but all notifications work for texts, missed calls, VM, email etc. In addition the calendar works ont he front and the date and day changes right there on the front page. The weather temp also changes and im pretty sure I know how to make the sun change to the current weather conditions but the IPhone doesn't do that so i may not since i want it to be a perfect replica I see no reason why WAD2 cant recreate IPhone interface perfectly

Lugia said:
where can i find this point ui for the hd (with wvga)
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PointUi 1 came the first of january 2008, so i think PointUi 2 will come the first of January 2009
Video: http://www.pointui.com/

Lugia said:
where can i find this point ui for the hd (with wvga)
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check it out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=464332

(REQ) Themes for mobile shell

Hi ,
I know everyone is pretty obsessed with backgrounds 4 all tabs at the moment but is there any one running SPB mobile shell on their HD?
I'm running it along side the TF3D by means of a program shortcut in launcher and its running really well, I just need some one to create some fantastic themes like they did for the Tytn etc .... Is that possible?
Im sure the great theme creaters out there could work some magic??
Please post your creations here.....
regards
JPW

JPW said:
Hi ,
I know everyone is pretty obsessed with backgrounds 4 all tabs at the moment but is there any one running SPB mobile shell on their HD?
I'm running it along side the TF3D by means of a program shortcut in launcher and its running really well, I just need some one to create some fantastic themes like they did for the Tytn etc .... Is that possible?
Im sure the great theme creaters out there could work some magic??
Please post your creations here.....
regards
JPW
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There is a thread on this already here but still no themes created. This is what the thread is called - Spb Mobile Shell 2.1.3 is out!
I to used to use Mobile Shell on my tytnii and loved all the theme creations. I hope some get started here for the Touch HD.

I know,
I'm using the latest ver 2.1.4 and its working brilliantly, no battery drain and sitting alongside touchflow flawlessly, just thought if we had a new dedicated thread it may get noticed !!
jon

Good idea, hope it works!

WVGA skins for mobile shell
??

masrterk said:
WVGA skins for mobile shell
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What's the confusion about? Do you not know what SPB Mobile Shell is or do you not no what a WVGA skin is?

The trouble is, there is none to very little WVGA skins available for MS 2.1.3+. At least on this board. There might be some available elsewhere, but I don't have a clue where... So if anybody know, it'd be kind to share with the rest of the community.

[REQ]TouchCube on HD?

I owe both a Polaris and a Blackstone and, in my opinion, TouchCube is far better than TF3D. TF3D looks nice but let's face it... it eats up system resources, it's laggy, when browsing through tabs it's not very thumb friendly (you have to bend your thumb to the max), you can't customize the tabs position (it would help if they were placed on one side because it would be easier to scroll through the same number of items having at least 30% more room to place the tabs), the so called customization... is way too limited (you get to change the fonts, the tab order, the shortcuts... in the end you'll get the same layout), the multimedia section was divided with the unhappy default association of the video files with an application clearly meant for photos...
So... my question: can the TouchCube be ported on the Blackstone and, along with it the Polaris Audio Manager? Can the Album application be "broken" in two applications one handling the photos and the other the videos?

I was thinking just the other day "what happened to the cube?"
It was pretty cool. Think it would be good a replacement for the action screen thats floating about?

Try duttys ROM with new manila, TF3D is uber fast

Sallcho said:
Try duttys ROM with new manila, TF3D is uber fast
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and what about ergonomics?

So... I get it that no developer is interested in porting the Cube to Blackstone

I have never tried it, but how about the option "Cube" under HTC TouchFLO when using Advanced Config. How about changing that to Enabled, will that do the job?

I'll make it my next project
I'm currently finishing an animated today screen for this phone while docked but when I'm done that that I'll start work on a cube launcher that replaces the current Program's tab with a custom app that gives you a cube with multiple options for launching programs... icon view, rotate to list view, rotate to cover-flow view etc

Did you try the cube here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=336234
Maybe you just have to adapt to wvga screen ?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=336234
I tried this one instead... installs ok but it's for qvga it starts and then it goes to the top-left corner. the animations work just fine, some of the links must be rebuilt... and that's about it. But... i mus admit it... i don't have the knowledge to port it to WVGA...

I know it won't be free, but what about something like SPB Mobile 3 due out at the end of March? Have a look at around 58 seconds in here:
http://www.wmexperts.com/update-spb-mobile-shell-3
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Just found a video showing it on a Touch HD:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xv8DDNE3lgA&feature=related

Cookie999
I appreciate the work of the people at SPB. It seams they did a good job. But... I am not a phonecentric person and something like the cube suites me better. SPBM3 looks like it requires a lot of time to be customized and even when you think you got it you wake up with a fully texted today screen and a directions map to help you swipe through screens...
The HTC TouchCube might seam blunt compareing it to SPBM3 but this is what I like about it... an easy way to launch/hide, easy recognition of the page you're in... i can't explain it very well but for me... the TouchCube is more natural, more organized and a better interface than the windows start menu when it comes to basic tasks.

WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!! SPB Mobile 3 looks great... forget what I wrote before. No need to write what they have already written

Cookie999 said:
I know it won't be free, but what about something like SPB Mobile 3 due out at the end of March? Have a look at around 58 seconds in here:
http://www.wmexperts.com/update-spb-mobile-shell-3
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Just found a video showing it on a Touch HD:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xv8DDNE3lgA&feature=related
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Dude! That looks freeking awesome and just think I neally bought an iPhone 3G

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nice i like it...
Cookie999 said:
I know it won't be free, but what about something like SPB Mobile 3 due out at the end of March? Have a look at around 58 seconds in here:
http://www.wmexperts.com/update-spb-mobile-shell-3
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Just found a video showing it on a Touch HD:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xv8DDNE3lgA&feature=related
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looks great!!
it moves really good!

Please resize the cube for vga/wvga would love it!!
yea spb mobile shell 3.0 does look good buuuuuuttttttttttttt its not free cost almost $30 and to be honest like many of you have been saying, i do miss the cube app from the htc touch...that app was very cool an useful plus i loved how when you needed it you just swiped up an when you were done you swiped down an that was that... SO I TO HOPE THAT IT CAN BE RESIZED FOR VGA AND WVGA!!!!!

Mrferrari23
If only I could... I'd do it myself

If it was posible id like the touchcube too, it's more finger friendly imo and it's faster to use. Like said before, if I knew how to do it myself, I would..

Bell UI
Browsing the internet I found the Bell UI. Looks quite nice.
To all the chefs out there... is there a chance to port this to HD? 'Cause I'm kinda' giving up the idea of the Cube being ported to the HD...

Who here disabled TF3D?

Anyone disabled TF3D and kept the original WM home screen interface? I personally disabled it and kept the original interface even though I don't like how the WM SMS look. I disabled it because I don't like the default TF3D colors and I tried changing it black, but it's a no go. I don't know why! I did change the background and the drop menu all black which looks pretty neat since anything black looks good. What I really want is the WM6.5 Zune interface so I can't wait for WM6.5 official release!!!
Let us know what you have.

TF3D does not appeal to me!
TF3D is pretty, so people "oooo" and "aaah" over the phone and buy it.
However, I still think that TF3D is a bunch of useless kitsch that gets in the way of actually using the phone effectively. After a few hours of it interfering with what I want to do, I turned it off. (At least this time it took a few hours and not a few minutes.)
This is especially true of the messaging (it's just in the way), and the photo album. (who wants to see tiny, slanted, distorted versions of the pictures?) It's been a while, so I cannot remember the other specific things that annoyed me.

TF3D was the first thing I disabled on the device... I don't like that I cannot choose my own programs and way of working.
I use Wisbar Advance and Wisbar Desktop

on my personal Touch HD I much prefered the TouchFLo interface to the standard windows one - saying that, that was running a Dutty ROM
However on my work TP2 - I have it disabled as it gets in the way of my business apps - i.e. MS Communicator etc.

TF3D has bad things an good things.
The biggest failure and that's why TF3D is just crap is because it's not intuitive and easy to use. Way to many steps to get things done, pretty useless taskbar (exepts for the killing programs part). You can do to much information on one screen at the same time and too little. It's nice that they include things like a calendar, but it's pretty useless and in many ways TF3D makes the use of third party software actually harder.
The very good things about touchflo 3d is the push pages, the scheduels, and the best thing is the fueture to see all of your conversation with one contact. I really love it. Next to that it's snappy and pretty.
Well I treid SPB mobile shell 3, but it just doesn't do it. Also many features, but the fact is: when I use my phone it's to get something done pretty quickly. I just want to be able that I have a good view of all the info I need (messages, appointments) in the least ammount of time and to be able to do something in little time. The regular wm is just very easy. Start - settings/programs - choose- done.
Seeing my messages when there is a new one I get a popup and pres view and I there. I do not have to click the task baar. Get a new screen there push on the button, then being transported to the touchflo tab and then have to choose the message.
THats 2 clicks vs 4/5 clicks.

I kept the default TF3d for now, as soon as the official WM 6.5 ROM will be available, I'll switch to the Titanium UI.

Bright.Light said:
TF3D was the first thing I disabled on the device... I don't like that I cannot choose my own programs and way of working.
I use Wisbar Advance and Wisbar Desktop
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I will give Wisbar Advance a try. Thanks!

I prefer Manilla2D over TF3D.

how
how do you disable tf3d??

cavenger said:
how do you disable tf3d??
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go to Settings>Personal>Today>, Items Tab & untick the TF3D then click OK

ty!! Need to find something to replace it now.
henh said:
go to Settings>Personal>Today>, Items Tab & untick the TF3D then click OK
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mschaffer said:
TF3D is pretty, so people "oooo" and "aaah" over the phone and buy it.
However, I still think that TF3D is a bunch of useless kitsch that gets in the way of actually using the phone effectively. After a few hours of it interfering with what I want to do, I turned it off. (At least this time it took a few hours and not a few minutes.)
This is especially true of the messaging (it's just in the way), and the photo album. (who wants to see tiny, slanted, distorted versions of the pictures?) It's been a while, so I cannot remember the other specific things that annoyed me.
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I totally agree!

SPB Mobile Shell 3.0. I like having one-touch access to everything I need (email, sms, weather, contacts, favorites, apps, etc...) right on the front page.

FEWidgets Ultimate 1.0b7
cavenger said:
ty!! Need to find something to replace it now.
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An interesting 'Widget' based replacement for TF3D I came on when I was looking around on XDA.
"FEWidgets Ultimate" by nicodega.
It replaces TF3D completely as a 'Today' plugin.
Basically one just has to install the CAB.
(Note: it will not show up under All Programs, but as a Today plugin only)
> Go into Settings> Today>
> Remove check next TF3D
> Enable Check next to FEWidgets Ultimate
Two versions- Large widgets and Small Widgets for anyone who needs a whole bunch of widgets.
I did try it out on my TMO TP2 and both versions basically work when I tested each separately.
Though I haven't tried fine-tuning each widget for my TP2 yet.
Enjoy.

i kept my TP1 and gave the TP2 to Dad whose TmoWing crapped out. Had to disable TF3D for him today. The last straw was contacts/call history will not allow you to dial out, it's link to the phone dialer was broken or something. I don't know if this is a result of a tweak I did or if the Tmo's TF3D version has a bug. After disabling TF3D, you can press the contacts again to call out. For future reference, anyone know the cause/solution?
Like above guy said, now I need a replacement for tf3d. The last version of BatteryStatus that I used was 1.04build266 from this time last year, which has since been replaced by HomeScreenPlusPlus or something like that. Anyone know of a stable version for the TP2? Stable enough for Dad?

Today Plugins
I kept the default TF3D, but with HDWall, because I love the eye-candy of the interface and I find it very intuitive to use. I have also tried other today plugins, such as PointUI Home 2, FEWidgetsUltimate and iPhonetoday, but none of them felt as smooth and easy to use as TF3D for me. Out of the other interfaces I tried I find FEWidgetsUltimate to be the best.
LINK - iPhoneToday
LINK - FEWidgetsUltimate
LINK - HDWall
LINK - PointUI
EDIT: On my previous device I tried SPB Mobile Shell - LINK

I also got rid of TF3D. IMHO that is eye candy for people who don't know how to use a computer - and that is still a large number of people out there using phones. W/o TF3D I get things quicker done and have more flexibility to set up the phone the way I use it best.

Aquila-169 said:
I kept the default TF3D, but with HDWall, because I love the eye-candy of the interface and I find it very intuitive to use. I have also tried other today plugins, such as PointUI Home 2, FEWidgetsUltimate and iPhonetoday, but none of them felt as smooth and easy to use as TF3D for me. Out of the other interfaces I tried I find FEWidgetsUltimate to be the best.
LINK - iPhoneToday
LINK - FEWidgetsUltimate
LINK - HDWall
LINK - PointUI
EDIT: On my previous device I tried SPB Mobile Shell - LINK
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Thanks for the link! HDWall and Mobileshell looks nice.

It is VERY usefull for me! I can't use without! I'm bored by WinMo interface.

I too found TF obtrusive and unintuitive so switched it off. I used to use SPB Mobile Shell on the Kaiser and liked it, but I'm a bit fed up of the way it doesn't integrate with Informant and Flexmail, so I'm back to the WM interface and don't miss all the bloat.

SPB Mobile shell 5

News?
Thank you.

mec72 said:
News?
Thank you.
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you mean 3.5?
http://spb.com/products/mobileshell/?en

mec72 said:
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Thank you.
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They just announced it, can't post link but its on google.

bamso said:
They just announced it, can't post link but its on google.
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http://www.mobiletechreview.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Board=news&Number=36008

mec72 said:
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Thank you.
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Look here: http://www.pdaclub.pl/index.php?opt...b-mobile-shell-50&catid=51:programy&Itemid=93

Here's the announcement: http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=13129
Here's a video of it running on android: http://pocketnow.com/tech-news/mwc-video-spb-mobile-shell-50-on-android
And more news is probably coming tomorrow...

JUST WOW!!!

dublicat post(

Looks like useless, memory hungry eye candy to me.
I have version 3.5 (using this customization: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=604146) at the moment and can say I have never used the 'carousel'.
SPB have been ignoring all the great ideas for widgets on their forum, a call for SPB Diary and Phone Suite to be made compatible for WM6.5 to concentrate on creating this?!
Oh well, down they go in a lot of people's opinions.
*sarcastic tone* well done SPB!

I can't wait...

http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=13378
a video if it running on WM6, looks great, i just hope it isn't a resource hook or a battery drainer.

Kellicros said:
http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=13378
a video if it running on WM6, looks great, i just hope it isn't a resource hook or a battery drainer.
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nah, it looks nothing new.

They stopped being creative along time ago.

It supports Stereoscopic output... I'd call that original.

With HTC Sense out there, SPB needed a home run with this release but all they hit is a bunt! Boring! Same old thing we have now. I don't have that "I must have it" feeling like I did before when I purchased SPB Mobile Shell for my phone. I do have that feeling for Sense however and unless SPB gets their uncreative heads out of their butts, this shell will die eventually (or live forever 'cause the user community is re-developing it for them with skins).

I like the look of sense but I dislike the way it access things and features on the phone, too many things built-in as default and makes my favourite 3rd party app hard/impossible to be integrated, and running Manila 2.5 on my Xperia gives me a lot of problem, it is slow and sluggish sometimes.
I now have SPB 3.5 with the look of sense(mobile theme), and all my frequently used app/features accessible in 3 pages. Works a lot better than Sense and Titanium.
I don't think SPB is dying, as people who like customization will always go for it, but TouchXperiance will probably pawn it when it is released, I dunno.

well it looks like they took a step up with the animations. lets not forget they also make there product to be integrated with some devices & it looks like the success that they created on windows mobile is driven to android & the rest.. So for the new user its gonna be a big thing like it was for us (windows mobile users) when they first released there shell but for me if i decide to run there shell its gotta be on a super light ROM since it looks like a memory hogger!

Well, it LOOKS pretty. Guess we'll have to wait to see how it performs.

any news about this new shell?
I am quite curious to test it on my Touch2 ...

What happened to version 4? The current version is 3.5.3. Why the jump to 5.0?
There is a demo of version 5 off Youtube, and I am not that impressed. The functionality is more important than the look. If it's only for the 3D feel, count me out! Besides, I don't think my device can handle it