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I know this has been asked many times before as I have been searching the forum and read wiki, but how do you take the current rom off your universal so that it can be edited/backed up and put back on as a released rom would be?
I really want the dump so i can input all my connection/email settings and small programs I like, and use it as a (near prefect/instant) backup when hard resting, i understand about putting items in the ext_rom and editing the config file for auto run.
After reading a thread somewhere, downloaded WinCE Cab Manager (http://www.ocpsoftware.com) then looked into some of the cabs on my ext_rom, where it comes to installing registry entries will they have to be entered via .xml files, or will a simple .reg file work and be entered?
At the moment I have one of the WM6_prerelease roms, is this why many of the things i have read will not work , if so i will downgrade to WM5 to try this, but from what I read it seem just the ext_rom was upgraded because there was only nk.nbf file, no ms_.nbf so i guess its more of a add on rather than a full OS. I've used all sorts of tools, inculeding the rom tool in the Universal service guide and the instructions in there, buzz's instructions and many i cant remember off top my head...
All help will be appreciated,
thanks
Why not just use a backup program?
@Frosty
I think you are confused.
You have read the forum but have not fully understood.
Radio_.nbf is the radio part.
ms_.nbf is the extended rom part.
nk.nbf is the M$ part.
so nk.nbf = os
ms_.nbf = ext_rom
radio_.nbf = no point asking...
but can nk.nbf be os and ext_rom?
I am still very interested in cooking my on rom
still curious for the answers to questions asked earlier
Yes it is, see this other post about cooking
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=251710
There a link to explain how to split the original nkn.bf file into the 2 separate files.
yeah, i've read that and downloaded the app previously, used o2's latest wm5 rom, the thing I want to do is get my rom from my exec now (wm6 with my settings)
being a beginner to this cooking, how do I remove applications and insert new ones into the roms? some that are installed are not in the ext rom:
tweaks
small apps (x button, soft rest, etc.)
please don't take it as I want to be given all the answers with no work, the internet is so larger and a lot of things I've been finding are based on previous htc devices, such as before Buzz had his universal
To the Rom chefs out there (btw you guys are the greatest), how difficult would it be to flash a kaiser rom on to a hermes? Would it be impossible or feasible? The reason I ask is that I am intrested in the software features of the kaiser but it will not be available in the states for a while (and my company may not upgrade for a while). I'm not sure how similar devices handle roms but if I could get a hermes with touchflo, built in improved home and com managers, and an app to recognize business cards... well that would rock. Just an idea I would appreciate any feedback.
Itz not difficult... only question is... does it work???
I would love to see that, but that is a hell of a question "Will it work?"!
Here is a short answer for you... HELL NO but if you like try it and then send me your bricked hermes!
Won't work out of the box, but you can extract whatever you want and cook it into your own ROM, using one of existing Hermes ROMs as a base.
Would it be possible to switch out the touch.dll file with the one from the kaiser to try to get touchflo working on the hermes (I'm comfertable setting up the business card recognizer through a cab)?
ok we need members that have created there own cooked roms to give us reallistic insight on how to pull this of?
Cooking a rom
leoiden said:
ok we need members that have created there own cooked roms to give us reallistic insight on how to pull this of?
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i take no credit for this, i am a noob loke you all, i myself like the att base that i get from vp3G you exrtact the base using romdonalds, you can cook with it to, but i cant understand it, i need to take more time. however i take the base and use it with pandora's build os, i also put added stuff in the pandora with Bennec83's instructions.
any spelling mistakes you find, suck it. i have been up since 4am and i need to get up at 4 again
ROMDonalds Kitchen v1.0 - The Educational Kitchen
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=319970&highlight=romdonalds
vp3G's WM6 v3.0 -- [The official "official" AT&T ROM]
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=317952&highlight=vp3G
Pandora Kitchen - v6.0 Build it YOUR way [updated 08/13/07 @ 14:19]http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=316881&highlight=pandora
Bennec83's cab-oem
1: Download CAB Manager from Rapidshare or Megaupload
2: Unpack the CABManager.exe and run it
3: Drop your CAB into CAB manager
4: Extract all the files in the CAB, to do this click the icon 3left from the XML button (It has SEL in small letters at the top of the button) LEAVE THE CABManager.exe RUNNING AS YOU WILL NEED IT FOR STEP 10
5: Go into the folder that you extracted your CAB to, there will be an *.inf (* = Name of the CAB), delete it as it is not needed
6: There will also be another folder inside the directory where you extracted the CAB, this will probably be called "Windows" or "Program Files"
These files contain all the files that are supposed to be in each directory on your device. i.e. all files in "Program Files" will get installed to the "Program Files" on your device when you install the CAB.
Never-the-less, these directories are not needed as we want all the files in the same folder, so copy the contents of each folder, into the folder where you extracted the CAB, do this for all folders that were extracted from the CAB
7: Go Here To Generate A GUID. Set it to "Version 4:Random" and press "Get" (It should look something like this - 21f768ec-4901-11dc-8314-0800200c9a66 - I will Note it as <GUID> instead of loads of numbers for ease of typing)
8: Go into the folder you extracted your CAB to, with all the files out of their directories, create TWO new text files.
For the FIRST text file: name it with the GUID you just generated in step 7 and change the file extension from "<GUID>.txt" to "<GUID>.dsm", press yes to the "Change File Extension" Warning
For the SECOND text file: give it the SAME GUID as above, but change the extension from "<GUID>.txt" to "<GUID>.rgu", press yes to the "Change File Extension" Warning
9: OPEN the "<GUID>.rgu" and select "SAVE AS.." select "UNICODE" (Default is ANSI), then go to the "Save as Type" Menu and select "All Files" and select your "<GUID>.rgu" and select "Yes" to the "Are you Sure You Want To Replace" warning
10: Go back to CABManager.exe and select the "XML" button, and a new window will pop up. In the new window select the tab "Registry Keys"
This will show you all of the REG Keys related to that CAB (If there are any, sometimes the software doesn’t need any so there will be nothing here!!)
Assuming that there are REG Keys, copy them all into the "<GUID>.rgu" and save it, REMEMBER TO SAVE AS "UNICODE"
Next you MUST make sure that the following is in the "<GUID>.rgu"
A: TOP LINE MUST say "REGEDIT4" (no ""), followed by a blank line, eg to follow:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\HTC\Customize]
"Ver" = "1.0"
this must change to:
REGEDIT4
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\HTC\Customize]
"Ver" = "1.0"
B: Go to the end of the "<GUID>.rgu" and ensure that after the last line of text there is another blank line
AFTER you have edited the "<GUID>.rgu" with the correct things, SAVE IT AS "UNICODE"
11: 1: Download this "option.xml" from Rapidshare or SendSpace
Open the "option.xml" and edit the bits that need editing.
you will see what I mean, as I have created the option.xml to be self explanatory!!!
I hope this helps, if you have any questions PM me
OEM folder of HTC rom here: form pof
Kaiser dump thread
http://rapidshare.com/files/42085076/KAISER_OEM.7z.html
P.S. i would live to see the apps ported but when i try to cook even known stuff i get errors and discuraged so i stop
i am on vp3G's Vir. 3.0 it is what i need until someone puts something i can use up.
thanks to the cooks, and things that make you say huummmm
In case somebody is searching the cab-manager now ;-)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=317358
Jesus, do none of you read anything any more? I don't like "n00b" bashing but when there's so many of you who have obviously read absolutely f*** all, then I'm thinking you're all fair game.
There are already LOTS of threads about ROMs with the Kaiser comm manager, dialler etc built in - there's been god knows how many attempts to get touchflo working, cooking in kaiser's touch.dll, hacking the old one, creating new ones, all about why you can't flash another device's ROM on to a hermes - mulitple threads about every damn thing you've been talking about, some of them not even that far away from the front page and none of you have taken the effort to have a look.
FFS, it's like painting a target on your back and going for a walk on a shooting range...
LOL......nicely said Smiffy
It's kinda like "the blind leading the deaf and stupid"....every time a new device hits the shelves, hoards of wombats want everything it has to offer on their old technology...arrgghhh!!!
Mark.
PS. Do you think I could flash the Kaiser ROM onto my Voyager....
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FFS, it's like painting a target on your back and going for a walk on a shooting range...
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best statement of the year award!
leoiden said:
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Here is some insite! IT cant be done! you can take certain apps and features from the kiaser rom which has been done many many times if you search for kiaser im sure you will find the home plug in the dail pad and the com manger and im sure some other things but here is a little hint you cant port the touchflow many have tried and come close but it just wont work yet! you can not flash another devices rom to the hermes sorry just wont work.
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Jesus, do none of you read anything any more? I don't like "n00b" bashing but when there's so many of you who have obviously read absolutely f*** all, then I'm thinking you're all fair game.
There are already LOTS of threads about ROMs with the Kaiser comm manager, dialler etc built in - there's been god knows how many attempts to get touchflo working, cooking in kaiser's touch.dll, hacking the old one, creating new ones, all about why you can't flash another device's ROM on to a hermes - mulitple threads about every damn thing you've been talking about, some of them not even that far away from the front page and none of you have taken the effort to have a look.
FFS, it's like painting a target on your back and going for a walk on a shooting range...
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But seriously, if I cant flash the Kaiser Rom to my Tytn, can I port it into i-phone. Then I won't have any communication devices to post stupid questions again
I hear what you are saying, I actually run a tweaked out Hermes with HTC home (latest version from shen) dialer (older version I don't like the 3g video dialer) and com manager (10 button kaiser) though I use the offical att rom as my base. I have read the threads EXTENSIVELY both here and on other sites 4windows mobile tri-syndicate etc.(Stuff by JJ, Custel, etc.) I've even played with the Touchflo Alpha cab. My question was if it would be possible to take the whole kaiser rom (as opposed to extracting portions of it and loading them into one of the hermes roms) and load it on to a hermes, mainly because the issue (from what I have read) with touchflo is the touch.dll file and how it functions (wizard, kaiser, and elf similar, heremes is different) and this dead ends most projects. I was thinking that perhaps flashing the whole ROM might get around this (basically try to run a kaiser on a hermes, I was hoping that the devices were similar enough it might work). I guess the answer is no. The other thought I had was that perhaps the new offical release might be easier to work with (and the business card app is pretty sweet). I am somewhat technical but not a developer (though I work for for a large development firm) perhaps I misunderstood how a rom works and flashing the entire thing will not be posible nor will it solve any of the issues the chefs have been running into. It was just an idea.
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I hear what you are saying, I actually run a tweaked out Hermes with HTC home (latest version from shen) dialer (older version I don't like the 3g video dialer) and com manager (10 button kaiser) though I use the offical att rom as my base. I have read the threads EXTENSIVELY both here and on other sites 4windows mobile tri-syndicate etc.(Stuff by JJ, Custel, etc.) I've even played with the Touchflo Alpha cab. My question was if it would be possible to take the whole kaiser rom (as opposed to extracting portions of it and loading them into one of the hermes roms) and load it on to a hermes, mainly because the issue (from what I have read) with touchflo is the touch.dll file and how it functions (wizard, kaiser, and elf similar, heremes is different) and this dead ends most projects. I was thinking that perhaps flashing the whole ROM might get around this (basically try to run a kaiser on a hermes, I was hoping that the devices were similar enough it might work). I guess the answer is no. The other thought I had was that perhaps the new offical release might be easier to work with (and the business card app is pretty sweet). I am somewhat technical but not a developer (though I work for for a large development firm) perhaps I misunderstood how a rom works and flashing the entire thing will not be posible nor will it solve any of the issues the chefs have been running into. It was just an idea.
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Touch.dll on a kaiser wun work on hermes... Datz the problem
If at first you don't succeed then make the target BIGGER!
What was that that LordSmiff said? It was sooo long, I couldn't read the whole thing.
Oh never mind. I forgot, I wouldn't bother reading your answer, either.
Can somebody pleeeeaaaasssseee make a video of alll this stuff on the forum. I can watch TV ok.
Anyway ... I just pre-ordered my Kaiser. Is there any way to flash my Hermes ROM onto it so I don't need to learn anything new?
Puuullllleeeeaaasssse help me!!!
Oh, and my keyboard makes a ? whenever I type a *. Haven't seen anything mentioned about this problem here.
-pvs
pvs said:
Oh, and my keyboard makes a ? whenever I type a *. Haven't seen anything mentioned about this problem here.
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I had this problem. Use HTCustom and go all the way over to the "keyboard" tab and choose the correct one (I have AT&T/Cingular, so I chose that).
mcorrie1121 said:
I had this problem. Use HTCustom and go all the way over to the "keyboard" tab and choose the correct one (I have AT&T/Cingular, so I chose that).
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Ummmm ... I was being a little sarcastic. Yes, I know ... it's just one of the questions that's been posted a few thousand times already ... probably will be again tomorrow.
Thanks for answering, though.
-pvs
Dear All,
After messing around with the tweaks here on the forum, I wanted to build my own ROM.
I want it to be:
-Fast (With the known registry tweaks)
-Stable
-Graphically nice
-With the apps I like
-To have Dutch language, with an extra WWE-XT9
-With the latest OS version (.721)
My plan to do this is:
-Get a good (modded-) BaseROM (I have SkippyCentraal 2.8 in mind)
-Remove all unwanted programs
-Exchange the OS.nb (128Mb, .273) with the extracted OS.nb (.721) from a different (non-Dutch) firmware
-Cook it together and flash it to my Diamond
-Make registry changes
-Dump my own (cooked and tweaker .721-) ROM
-Compile again
-Post it here ;-)
Is this just the way it works? I have just read Lolek47's Tutorial Thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=413782
and it seems that simple?
Please advice...
Thanks in advance!
BR Bart
The Netherlands
When I saw the tutorial I thought it is simple. But when really doing it, it is not that simple: my cooked ROM's (so far all of them) aren't even starting up. Hangups all over the place.
My advice to you is: find a good kitchen and just do it. Eventually you wil cook a decent working ROM. But don't expect to do it in a few days (like I did)
BUMP!
ive got the same plan as burdie!
But just in the WWE language, somebody knows a good tutorial?
would really like it!
yourz,
ruubs
I can offer some advice, coming from cooking on a Kaiser:
I think everyone would like to make a ROM with all those things listed While it may not be impossible, it may take quite some time tweaking it just the way you want it
1. You can't use any ROM as a base ROM unless it is chef-friendly. This means that all the .dsm and .rgu files are included. If they aren't, I'd recommend starting from scratch on the latest or most stable base ROM
2. Removing programs should be easy, because all the Diamond's are organized in .dsm files instead of all being dropped in the OEMAPPS folder like the Kaiser
3. I don't really see the point of having a WWE XT9 dictionary with a dutch ROM, care to explain. Also, what are you trying to do with replacing the OS.nb?
4. I'd not recommend dumping the ROM off your diamond then compiling it. Why would you go through all that trouble when you could just make the registry tweaks you want and then cook it up?
i'd be glad to elaborate on any more of these or answer any other questions you have
ruubs said:
BUMP!
ive got the same plan as burdie!
But just in the WWE language, somebody knows a good tutorial?
would really like it!
yourz,
ruubs
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hi,
short but very usefull rules from
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=508293
nothing is better than (electronic) paper ...
Most of you guys will probably be realy pist off with this thread but please if anyone could help just a little.
I'm new with all this (rom flashing, manila, sense etc.), so if anyone could explain how to put on new manila and witch programs do I need I would be realy gratefull. I tryed just to install the .cab file and it didn't do anything. I didn't get what maxmanila is. Is it a program or some new way to code the manila. If you don't waste your time to write about it please give a link to something where a could find my answers.
sorry if the tread gets some one angry but I just couldn't find information about this things.
Generally the only way to get a new manila is to flash to a rom with the manila cooked in (I understand for some devices it is possible to get a cab to change manila, but I haven't seen this for the HD).
Read the Dummies Guide to Flashing on how to flash to a new rom. Post any additional questions you may have in that thread.
MaxManila is a theme which allows you to change the appearance of the manila interface by changing clocks, settings to make sliders auto hide etc.
I want to do that (change apperance) for start, witch program do I need do do that after I download the theme? I read dummies guide and i intend to flash my rom if the theme changing ain't be good, but first I want to try to change the theme but a got lost in all those .cab-s but non explanation how to put it on (it's probably not hard but I'm new so everything is hard to me for now, a the main thing is that I'm afraid I?m going to screw up my phone)
Well the opening line in the 1st post of MaxManila states:
Here's a treat for those who has already flashed the latest Manila 2.5 ROM from Miri 7.1, Dutty Leo R2, Latest Energy ROM and PhamQuang v59 onwards.
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So you need to flash the rom first to a manila 2.5 based rom in order to try it out.
There are other tweaks and themes that you can use with the stock rom. What would you like to change in terms of appearance?
If you follow the Dummies Guide and take it step by step it is not difficult to flash your rom. As with everything in life there is a risk, but it is very difficult to totally screw up the device and you should always be able to recover. So as long as you follow the guidance and advice you will be ok.
Well, I've seen many chefs who use this tool to install various programs. How can I utilize this tool? I have searched all over to no avail
I'm assuming you mean the User Configuration (UC) feature. If not, then I apologise. I did a search and found an old thread explaining it here.
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I'm assuming you mean the User Configuration (UC) feature. If not, then I apologise. I did a search and found an old thread explaining it here.
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Nah thats not it, but thanks for trying =P
What i'm looking for is how to use the customization tool that comes up after flashing a rom. In several roms after the first boot it will say Wait a few minutes for customization to complete or something like that. I'm looking for a tut explaining how to use this tool to cook certain programs into my rom without converting them into ext, Thanks for your help though Stevie.
ok, I thought that was it, UC can be used to run cabs and stuff. But sorry for my misunderstanding, hope you find it soon !
husker91 said:
Nah thats not it, but thanks for trying =P
What i'm looking for is how to use the customization tool that comes up after flashing a rom. In several roms after the first boot it will say Wait a few minutes for customization to complete or something like that. I'm looking for a tut explaining how to use this tool to cook certain programs into my rom without converting them into ext, Thanks for your help though Stevie.
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I'm not sure about your kitchen, but when I used the JoshKoss/TwoPumpChump Kaiser kitchen to cook ROMs, you would place all the applications in a special folder and create a text file called config.txt in that special folder pointing to the location of all your .cabs. You would then cook the ROM, and all the .cabs in that folder would end up in \Windows on the device after a flash. On first boot, it would install all of the .cabs you'd referenced in that file.
I would check in your kitchen's thread, as there will probably be questions from people like you. Try searching for config_operator.txt, config_PT.txt, or config_AP.txt in that kitchen's thread. Alternatively, you could very politely PM a ROM cooking veteran like NRGZ28 or joshkoss (or another chef) and ask how to do this. Sorry I couldn't be more specific to your, but hopefully that'll point you in the right direction.
DaveTheTytnIIGuy said:
I'm not sure about your kitchen, but when I used the JoshKoss/TwoPumpChump Kaiser kitchen to cook ROMs, you would place all the applications in a special folder and create a text file called config.txt in that special folder pointing to the location of all your .cabs. You would then cook the ROM, and all the .cabs in that folder would end up in \Windows on the device after a flash. On first boot, it would install all of the .cabs you'd referenced in that file.
I would check in your kitchen's thread, as there will probably be questions from people like you. Try searching for config_operator.txt, config_PT.txt, or config_AP.txt in that kitchen's thread. Alternatively, you could very politely PM a ROM cooking veteran like NRGZ28 or joshkoss (or another chef) and ask how to do this. Sorry I couldn't be more specific to your, but hopefully that'll point you in the right direction.
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exactly what I needed to know, Thank you very much. I'm using ervius visual kitchen but the config.txt and such work in a similar manner. Thanks again