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Trinity GPS Settings

Sorry about creating another one of these threads, I hate them as much as you but I really need to get GPS working in WM6 or I am going to have to downgrade. The reason I brought my trinity was because of the GPS, without it I may as well use my prophet! No matter what I try I cant get any GPS app to work, not tomtom, not gpsinfo, not pocketstreets, not even google maps!
There is no easily found information on the settings for gps within WM6, so maybe we can put that info here in order to reduce these kind of threads in the future!
If someone could answer this, it would help me and others greatly; What WORKING settings are being used under WM6 for the trinity?????

Com9 115200

Not working for me either... was a SPV m700, now WM6 (lmvd? edition).. google maps says seeking satellites, but none appear. This is right out in the open, where my bt gps unit picks up 4 satellites.
I really need this to work as well

firiel said:
Com9 115200
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Hardware com9 or program com9? Assume hardware, so which program should I use?

ChrisFilter said:
Hardware com9 or program com9? Assume hardware, so which program should I use?
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Hardware com9, program put GPD1.
Cheers

Im Using LVSW 2.0.1.1
YEP:
GPS Program Port: GPD1
GPS Hardware Port: COM9
Baud Rate : 115200
Works Great, recep. better then HTC 2005.

GPS Setting
GPS Program Port: GPD1
GPS Hardware Port: COM9
Baud Rate : 4800
If it does not work try a lower baud setting.
MuN TE

And give it some time for the very first fix...
That might take up to 10 minutes or even more...Make sure your Trinity can 'see' the sky, and just wait some more.
This applies only to first fix, after that it should be well under a minute for a 'warm' start

yea but it should be able to see the GPS device right?
using the settings above, tomtom still gives me nothing other than 'No GPS Device' much like the other programs I have tryed. Surely if it was seeing the GPS it would say 'No valid GPS signal' or 'Waiting for valid gps signal'
Have been advised to upgrade to latest version of tomtom which I have and it makes no diffrence.......
PS I cant thank you all enough for your help!

WWWeed said:
yea but it should be able to see the GPS device right?
using the settings above, tomtom still gives me nothing other than 'No GPS Device' much like the other programs I have tryed. Surely if it was seeing the GPS it would say 'No valid GPS signal' or 'Waiting for valid gps signal'
Have been advised to upgrade to latest version of tomtom which I have and it makes no diffrence.......
PS I cant thank you all enough for your help!
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So you do have TomTom 6.03, right?
Better give more information if you want people to help you...
if it says waiting for gps signal it should have found the gps device... MN6 will say "no gps device" if it doesnt find it and "waiting for gps" if it found a device but is waiting for a fix

sorry saminegm your right. Yes I am on the latest version of tom tom 6.030 (bulid 8320) The problem I am having is that all I get is 'No GPS device' when using the settings above.

Right, it gets odder. I've used the settings suggested. Now, when I leave google maps searching for satellites, it seems to crash after a few mins. The screen goes black, and the power button doesn't turn it on. I have to soft reset it.
Try it with lower baud rates? Does this lessen it's power?
Thanks everyone, much appreciated

Tried it all the way down to 9600, no luck. I won't take the phone back until I've tested it with TomTom, though.

I Have now sorted my problem with a reflash of the GSM_1.41.00.11 radio rom on the LVSW thread!
Despite me having done this once before, my radio rom was still the old orange one! reflashed it with GSM_1.41.00.11 and it works a treat!
ChrisFilter I take it you are having a similar problem; try going into system settings and device information. Then make sure your radio version is 1.41.00.11 if its not reflash it with the GSM_1.41.00.11 radio rom and it should sort your problems out!
And once again Thanks your all your help guys!

Already on 1.41.00.11
Maybe I'll try reflashing.. if not, back to f***ing WM5 / Orange

Wahey! On my 7th attempt, with google maps, in my garden, it worked. Impressed.. accurate tracking, could see myself walk round the garden, snazzy! :d

ChrisFilter said:
...could see myself walk round the garden, snazzy! :d
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Now THAT would be a neat trick... (you DO know that the sat. image data is freakin' old..right?)
But glad all worked out for everyone

Moaske said:
Now THAT would be a neat trick... (you DO know that the sat. image data is freakin' old..right?)
But glad all worked out for everyone
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Yeah, of course I know
I meant I could see the little dot walking around..

Google maps for WM - It's over and over again....
It is rather misleading - it DOESN'T use any real GPS device on your phone, or any external BT either. It is a pay service instead, which uses provider dependent LBS.
See
http://www.google.com/support/mobile/bin/answer.py?answer=39894&topic=9120

ww2250 said:
Google maps for WM - It's over and over again....
It is rather misleading - it DOESN'T use any real GPS device on your phone, or any external BT either. It is a pay service instead, which uses provider dependent LBS.
See
http://www.google.com/support/mobile/bin/answer.py?answer=39894&topic=9120
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What? Google Maps Mobile does use your GPS device, atleast it does on my phone...

No Maps Available in TomTom on WM6

Hi all,
I have an XDA Orbit on O2 which I got last week.
I have TomTom installed on the phone with the maps and voices etc on the MiniSD Card.
I went to use TomTom today, and it showed be the EULA and said No Maps available. I checked the SD Card, and I could access it and launch other applications which are installed on the SD Card.
I soft-reset the device, but still no fix.
Re-installed TomTom, and when it launched after installation it ran fine, however when I shut it down and opened it again i failed and showed No Maps once again.
I read http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285511&page=1&highlight=Storage+Card thread, and installed the HTC Patch incase this was affecting me, however there is no change.
It seems that I can run TomTom if I re-install everytime I want to use it, however that obviously is no use at all.
Any help would be grately appreachiated, as I'm a little annoyed by this being that I have only had the phone for a week.

have you tried putting the maps on the device storage rather than your SD Card? some applications dont like being split over device and SD.
I have TTN6, and have the maps on the device under 'Program Files/Navigator/Zip/'
Hope this helps.

I had TomTom installed in this way on my XDA Mini S for 18 months with no problems, and as far as I am aware this is the way TomTom is designed to be installed.

Is the name of the TT-map map correct on minisd?
Check spelling.
richard_j_green said:
I had TomTom installed in this way on my XDA Mini S for 18 months with no problems, and as far as I am aware this is the way TomTom is designed to be installed.
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..same issue
I had the same challenge.
There are one or 2 ways to resolve the issue.
1. Delete the maps, un-install TomTom software, you also need a reedit software to delete all references to TomTom in the regostry. Delete all other TomTom relevant files on the device /Program Files/navigator; /My Document/TomTom. Then soft-reset before installing all over again.
This I did for a friend.
2. In my own case, I reflashed with a new ROM, then installed all over again.
However, my friend had a cracked version, and I told him to go pay for the original, as you only need to pay for the maps these days. I cannot guarrantee 1. will always work.

I am currently using a cracked version also (tut-tut) but am getting the Western Europe edition for christmas from my other half.
The maps folder is named Great_Britain which worked on my Mini S on WM5 no problems.
Can you please advise where the TTN registry keys are, as I looked in HKCU and HKLM but couldn't find anything relating to TomTom. I did not remove all the existing stuff before re-installing so I may try this.

Just to clarify the technical points:
I am running the O2 WM6 ROM that was pre-installed on the device, and am using a SanDisk 2GB MiniSD card.

I don't see your TT version
What is your tt ver?
richard_j_green said:
I am currently using a cracked version also (tut-tut) but am getting the Western Europe edition for christmas from my other half.
The maps folder is named Great_Britain which worked on my Mini S on WM5 no problems.
Can you please advise where the TTN registry keys are, as I looked in HKCU and HKLM but couldn't find anything relating to TomTom. I did not remove all the existing stuff before re-installing so I may try this.
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Can anyone tell me how I can find out my TTN software version being that I cannot get into the application itself, as I am stuck at the screen showing the No Maps message.
Is the version displayed inside a file or registry key used by TTN?

You have TT6
But was yout tt's version before??
richard_j_green said:
Can anyone tell me how I can find out my TTN software version being that I cannot get into the application itself, as I am stuck at the screen showing the No Maps message.
Is the version displayed inside a file or registry key used by TTN?
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I'm using the same version now as previously on WM5 - Is that my issue?
I don't have the Mini S with me now, so I can't fire the software up right now, however I will look tonight and post the version, unless someone can tell me a way to find it some other way in the mean time?
Thanks

i dont think u can find the version number, apart from when u are running the program... just had a quick look on mine, and there aren't any files that look useful.

I'm having problems locating the software build version.
I've started TomTom on my Mini S which is working perfectly and loading the maps ok etc etc, however I can't see anything with the build or software number on it - Sorry for being a noob, but could someone point me in the right direction.
Many Thanks

Just open TomTom and press where the signal strength is shown, it will show at the bottom right, at least in version 6.030.

I hope you know that map's from TT5 are not compatible in TT6
richard_j_green said:
I'm having problems locating the software build version.
I've started TomTom on my Mini S which is working perfectly and loading the maps ok etc etc, however I can't see anything with the build or software number on it - Sorry for being a noob, but could someone point me in the right direction.
Many Thanks
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Hiya mate i used to have this problem too
1. Make sure u dont have bluetooth explorer switched on
2. soft reset your device see if that works

Hi all,
I knew I wasn't being stupid trying to find the version number, so I've taken a picture of the GPS Signal screen - Attached.
I disbled Bluetooth Explorer and this is now working again perfectly, without changing the maps - These maps I have used on WM5 and WM6.
I personally don't see why Bluetooth Explorer would do this, unless TomTom is foolithly trying to look for maps over Bluetooth, but thanks for the help everyone.

to find the version number with TTN6:
-Start TomTom
-Tap on the bottom right of the screen where it shows time/speed/signal strength
-it should bring up a screen which shows your last route, signal on the right and bottom right of the screen the version, which you can tap on and get a detailed view.
Hope this helps.

I also have the same problem, where it says no maps found. It used to work and then all of a sudden it stopped. It is not a cracked version.
Can someone please help me!
Thank You

did you try the soultion in reply 16? it worked for me

TomTom GPS data stream problem

Hello Guys,
I manage to upgrade Vogue to WM6.1 + GPS.
When I run Google Maps it work fine. Show me exactly where I am.
When I run TomTom from AstroGPSLauncher, the TomTom showed me that it found 7 satellites.
But I do NOT see the road.
When I try to enter direction I get an error message related to the GPS data.
It is as if the GPS data is wrong. I think TomTom try to put me in a different part of the world and its completely confused.
Any Idea what I did wrong?
Thanks.

pozo said:
Hello Guys,
Any Idea what I did wrong?
Thanks.
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You forgot to tell us what version of TT and what map you are using!
It's unlikely to be a hardware or rom problem otherwise Google Maps would not work.
-GT

I'm using version 7.45 .
Today I also installed it on my friends phone (HTC Touch Sprint) and it was working OK.
So the TomTom version is OK, the Vogue work OK with GoogleMaps and MS Live.
What can be the reason that TomTom GPS is confused on my machine?
I also installed GPS Tuner and I saw the same problem:
The location jump all the time. Sometimes it put in in China...
Very strange....
Can someone think about something I did wrong???

Orange touch HD + tomtom= no GPS device?

Hi,
I signed up a touch HD with orange UK yesterday. The first thing I did was to install TOMTOM on the machine. However, TOMTOM kept reporting no GPS device. If it finds the internal GPS receiver, then it is 20 minutes later. One thing I notice is that when TOMTOM is looking for the GPS receiver, there is something trying to connect to the internet.
I am sure I did everthing right as I was using this copy of tomtom on the touch diamond and it worked like a treat.
Did orange do anything to the GPS so people can only use their stupid orange map? If they did, is there any way that I can get the tomtom working?
Many thanks in advance.
Thank you for all your advice and the problem has been solved. Here are a few tips for people who have the same problem.
1. A-GPS can only make things worse, switch it off.
2. Update your quick-GPS data.
3. It seems that tomtom struggles to find GPS device on certain orange handset. If you are the unlucky one, try change your hand set with orange. If you don’t want to go through the trouble, open google map to locate satellite before open tomtom.
4. Debrand the handset.
5. Orange’s customer service is crap, stay away if you can

Have you tried updating QuickGPS in the programmes.
Also check A-GPS is disabled in windows settings.

mijyou said:
Have you tried updating QuickGPS in the programmes.
Also check A-GPS is disabled in windows settings.
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Thanks, I have updated the quickGPS the first thing. I have the a-gps enabled, though it could help to locate the satallite.

I think it is recomended to be disabled.
Perhaps try it if you have not.

GPS always worked fine for me with the stock Orange ROM, that was with 1.14 though, I think they come with 1.19 now, it also works fine with all of the cooked ROMs I've tested. Perhaps the version of TomTom you have isn't fully compatible with the HD (I did notice you said it worked on the Diamond, but perhaps there's a hardware/software difference on the HD which stops it working.

mijyou said:
Also check A-GPS is disabled in windows settings.
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that was the most important one
I am happily have 3 navigation programs on my HD, Tomtom, iGO, Navigon
but I always prefer iGO

Hi Guys, Thank you for your reply.
For you who is using tomtom, which version are you using? I am using 7.48

Thanks all for your help. Disable A-GPS seems hlep a lot. I will try again today.
By the way, UK orange's customer service is what I call crap. I called them about the GPS last night and a idiot tell me that as far as I can make phone calls, my phone is fine.

mmp7 said:
Thanks all for your help. Disable A-GPS seems hlep a lot. I will try again today.
By the way, UK orange's customer service is what I call crap. I called them about the GPS last night and a idiot tell me that as far as I can make phone calls, my phone is fine.
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Don’t blame them, that is way we are here.
My tomtom version is 7.915.9196, with latest UK and Ireland map v830.2307
but unfortunately it doesn’t support 7 point postcode system just accept 4 digit post code and in order to find the address you actually need to know name of the street as well. But I have iGO with 7PPC which it is fantastic.

MrKaon said:
Don’t blame them, that is way we are here.
My tomtom version is 7.915.9196, with latest UK and Ireland map v830.2307
but unfortunately it doesn’t support 7 point postcode system just accept 4 digit post code and in order to find the address you actually need to know name of the street as well. But I have iGO with 7PPC which it is fantastic.
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830.207 works just fine with 7 digit postcodes, as have all maps for the last couple of years.

spud_work said:
830.207 works just fine with 7 digit postcodes, as have all maps for the last couple of years.
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may I ask what version of tomtom are you using?

7.915.916
it is non-standard feature, but you just need an additioal 'zip' folder

spud_work said:
7.915.916
it is non-standard feature, but you just need an additioal 'zip' folder
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thanks for telling me.
ok now for everyone which already had tomtom without 7 digit postcode, do as I listed here:
01- Downloaded the file
www.tomtom.com/updates/great_britainpostal_all.zip
02- copy it into new folder (folder's name doesn't matter)
03- extract it.
04- click on setup.exe
05- choose "i agree" then click next.
06- choose Pocket PC (Windows CE)
07- choose install Tom Tom Great Britin Postcode then click next.
08- choose other location (Advanced)
09- choose Folder on the computer
10- select any folder you want
the software will generate a zip folder
after getting the zip folder move it to your SD card's Root
start TOM TOM you will be able to do a full 7 digit postcode search.

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link not working for me?
can some one try it and report working or not
thanks

I often get the 'GPS device not found' error on my Orange HD also. A quick fix I've found is to run Google Maps first and lock onto a GPS signal in there, before opening TomTom. Seems to 'solve' the problem for now...

leggoman said:
link not working for me?
can some one try it and report working or not
thanks
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oops my mistake try it again should be work now
djmc321 said:
I often get the 'GPS device not found' error on my Orange HD also. A quick fix I've found is to run Google Maps first and lock onto a GPS signal in there, before opening TomTom. Seems to 'solve' the problem for now...
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it shouldn't be like that, when I had Stock ROM on my HD I used to had similar problem beside long waiting time before tomtom finds signal (about 15 ~ 20s) but after flashing HD with Custom ROM every problem is gone, now it finds signal in less than 5 second

I often get the 'GPS device not found' error on my Orange HD also. A quick fix I've found is to run Google Maps first and lock onto a GPS signal in there, before opening TomTom. Seems to 'solve' the problem for now...
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Exactly what I was going to say.. I had the same problem with mine running 7.9something. If you run google maps in the backgroungd it almost jump started the gps. I have also found that once you get a gps signal it seems to keep it easier..... dunno if thats just hopeful. Oh yes and I am on Orange too stock rom.

[Q] gps not working on tilt 2!!!

hello i bought this beautifull phone, but the ****in gps not works!!. I tried with garmin and choose GPS intermediata driver, and then of 3 hours, cant detect any satelite. Same with google maps, if i choose USE GPS. It says seeking gps. then GPS error bla bla.
HELP!! i dont know waht can i do!!
i tried with garmin in N85 and it works perfecly

jufece said:
hello i bought this beautifull phone, but the ****in gps not works!!. I tried with garmin and choose GPS intermediata driver, and then of 3 hours, cant detect any satelite. Same with google maps, if i choose USE GPS. It says seeking gps. then GPS error bla bla.
HELP!! i dont know waht can i do!!
i tried with garmin in N85 and it works perfecly
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have you tried updating 'quick gps' tool?
is 'my location' enabled?
is 'agps' enabled?
maybe try a different com type under gps settings?
sh4d086.

sh4d0w86 said:
have you tried updating 'quick gps' tool?
is 'my location' enabled?
is 'agps' enabled?
maybe try a different com type under gps settings?
sh4d086.
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settings->location-> htc location service? yes
agps-> is enabled
what port??
actually is
GPS program port: COM 4
GPS hardware port: (none) bad ate: 4800
acces: manage gps automatically

jufece said:
settings->location-> htc location service? yes
agps-> is enabled
what port??
actually is
GPS program port: COM 4
GPS hardware port: (none) bad ate: 4800
acces: manage gps automatically
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try com 3. it is a popular port.
i havent ever tried another port. though.
so. cant speak from personal experience.
sh4d0w86.

I sincerely hope you haven't got a dud. I had to have my TP2 warranty exchanged after USB sync was no longer working. The first replacement I got would not find any satellites either.
So back it went, only to be replaced with one that had a badly fitted front bezel ... so much for T-Mobile quality

hello. i tried in com 3...same not works

i did hard reset. Installed google maps, activated gps and stay "seeking gps..." for hours=(((((((((((((

jufece said:
i did hard reset. Installed google maps, activated gps and stay "seeking gps..." for hours=(((((((((((((
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I hate to be the one to point this out, but if you are using a stock ROM and it isn't working, perhaps you should think about doing a warranty repair/exchange. That would seem to be the only thing left if, as I said, you are already using a stock ROM and have done a hard reset.

cajunflavoredbob said:
I hate to be the one to point this out, but if you are using a stock ROM and it isn't working, perhaps you should think about doing a warranty repair/exchange. That would seem to be the only thing left if, as I said, you are already using a stock ROM and have done a hard reset.
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thats the problem, i cant send it to warranty, because i am not in usa. And im not interesting to pay tax, shipping etc.
Ill have to live with that. So thanks anyway.

jufece said:
thats the problem, i cant send it to warranty, because i am not in usa. And im not interesting to pay tax, shipping etc.
Ill have to live with that. So thanks anyway.
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You always have the option of a bluetooth GPS receiver.

There's a thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=523676 with GPS tweaks. Might be out of date though.
I'm not sure if it's in the stock rom but as previously posted make sure you run QuickGPS and download the latest sats. After that run HTC GPStool (google for the cab if it's not installed), click Open Port (mine by default is COm4, 56700 baud rate), then start test. Let it sit a few minutes in an open area (outside). Once satellite used starts increasing stop the test and run Google Maps. Should lock on quickly.
I don't know why GPSTool makes the phone lock on so much quicker, but without running that first i've never gotten a lock on my phone with google/bing.

Toleraen said:
There's a thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=523676 with GPS tweaks. Might be out of date though.
I'm not sure if it's in the stock rom but as previously posted make sure you run QuickGPS and download the latest sats. After that run HTC GPStool (google for the cab if it's not installed), click Open Port (mine by default is COm4, 56700 baud rate), then start test. Let it sit a few minutes in an open area (outside). Once satellite used starts increasing stop the test and run Google Maps. Should lock on quickly.
I don't know why GPSTool makes the phone lock on so much quicker, but without running that first i've never gotten a lock on my phone with google/bing.
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hello i already tried with htc gps tools, a few days ago, but it couldn find any satellite in that moment.
Ill try again tomorow, thanks for help

Hmm. If you run the HTC GPSTools for several minutes (~10 minutes) does the device start to get hot? That might help indicate that the hardware is working to power GPS antenna. Just kind of a wild guess though.

Toleraen said:
Hmm. If you run the HTC GPSTools for several minutes (~10 minutes) does the device start to get hot? That might help indicate that the hardware is working to power GPS antenna. Just kind of a wild guess though.
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This is the simplest way to test for a hardware failure. The GPS in the unit draws considerably more power while trying to locate a signal. If the device warms up noticeably within about 15 minutes or so, this will tell you whether the GPS is even activating at all.

i tried again with the gps tool, and it not works. Device is not hot, and google maps keeps seeking gps
edit: hello i was scared, and maybe i did **** on my pants, but i flashed a new rom on phone, ill try with gps again on the morning
edit2: gps still not working,
Satellite Viewed: 16 Satellite Used: 0

jufece said:
i tried again with the gps tool, and it not works. Device is not hot, and google maps keeps seeking gps
edit: hello i was scared, and maybe i did **** on my pants, but i flashed a new rom on phone, ill try with gps again on the morning
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Well, if the device wasn't getting noticeably warmer while seeking, then the hardware is very likely at fault. I would recommend that you try to have it repaired under the warranty. If you would rather live with it, then there are plenty of Bluetooth GPS receivers out there that will work wonderfully.

As i say warranty is not an option for me. Well, i really dont need the gps for now.
And yeah i can live with this sh.. just kidding, i love my phone and always will love it
thanks for all help

jufece said:
thats the problem, i cant send it to warranty, because i am not in usa. And im not interesting to pay tax, shipping etc.
Ill have to live with that. So thanks anyway.
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I had a similar issue. I installed the Energy ROM and it fixed all my issues.

easy fix
The fix is very simple. Go to start/settings/home and turn SENSE/TOUCHFLO off. Now turn on google maps and set your phone somewhere and after it says active close google maps, turn SENSE back on and repeat the first step. For some reason on some roms the GPS will not work with SENSE 2.1 or SENSE 2.5 unless you lock sats with SENSE off forst then it with work with SENSE on.

porkenhimer said:
The fix is very simple. Go to start/settings/home and turn SENSE/TOUCHFLO off. Now turn on google maps and set your phone somewhere and after it says active close google maps, turn SENSE back on and repeat the first step. For some reason on some roms the GPS will not work with SENSE 2.1 or SENSE 2.5 unless you lock sats with SENSE off forst then it with work with SENSE on.
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wtf!!!! who are youu? a ****in genious
i turned off sence, then google maps, but after 1 minute i was bored. Closed it, and open the GPS Viewer that came in rom. After 1 minute it shows 1 satelite, 10 seconds later 2 sat. Ill try with google again, i think just needing the correct settings. So thanks a lot. Illpost results here, tomorow