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Just wondering how well the Touch Pro 2 functions when holding with one hand?
- How easy is it making Phone Calls, Call Holding, Mute, Switching from speaker, handset, to bluetooth, Contacts, Display Keybad, etc?
- Can one text with one hand without sliding out the keyboard with on screen keyboard? Does it have a on screen keyboard
like the iphone and autocorrect when trying to text from portrait? If it does how responsive is it releative maybe someone who has used the iphone?
- Can one use the web browser without sliding out the keyboard? Can you easily navigate without having to sliding out the keyboard?
I guess overall what I am asking is that I currently have an iphone and what I really liked about it was being able to use it so well with one hand. So I am just wondering how well it functions without having to slide out the keyboard?
1. easy, Smart dial, instant touch controls for speakerphone, hold, mute bluetooth switchover, keypad display. It doesn't get any more convenient or faster.
2. HTC's touch keyboard is a breeze. Think iPhone's keyboard with a little dash of T9. Also auto-predicts add in your most commonly used words. Almost forgot, smart dial also uses most commonly used numbers.
3. Ditto on Opera web browser or Skyfire. browsing is a snap in landscape or portrait mode.
whtrbt7 said:
1. easy, Smart dial, instant touch controls for speakerphone, hold, mute bluetooth switchover, keypad display. It doesn't get any more convenient or faster.
2. HTC's touch keyboard is a breeze. Think iPhone's keyboard with a little dash of T9. Also auto-predicts add in your most commonly used words. Almost forgot, smart dial also uses most commonly used numbers.
3. Ditto on Opera web browser or Skyfire. browsing is a snap in landscape or portrait mode.
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Simply put, yes, yes and yes. Try the Touch Pro 2. You will have at least 14 days with some US carriers before you can return and get your money back.
Think iPhone, but not locked down AND it has a physical keyboard too!
i had a iphone 2g and 3g jailbroken etc did alot of custom ****, gave them both to family members for tp2. It to me is a better phone in every aspect.
I find the onscreen stuff fine but actually trying to press the hardware keys while holding the phone in one hand is quite hard. You have to really strech your thumb down to the bottom of the screen, the buttons are right on the edge, that is poor design really but I guess its to maximise the screen size.
I actually dropped the phone trying to do this.
My on-screen keyboard is only displaying numbers, with no option to switch to qwerty. The only qwerty characters available are "p" and "w", which appear to the top right of the keyboard.
Does anyone have any idea how I can get the normal qwerty keyboard back??
itm said:
My on-screen keyboard is only displaying numbers, with no option to switch to qwerty. The only qwerty characters available are "p" and "w", which appear to the top right of the keyboard.
Does anyone have any idea how I can get the normal qwerty keyboard back??
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Did you disable eT9 and to get Auto suggest and auto complete back? If so that is probably what did it.
I had the same problem when I hacked my Tilt 2 to get get auto suggest and auto complete back. Apparently when you do this it works fine until the fallowing happens:
A. You get to a field that triggers you keyboard to switch number entry mode (Nummber pad with P and W)
b. You get to a field that trigger the keyboard to internet entry mode (Keyboard with ".com" and "/" but no spacebar).
Once you enter either mode you can't key you regular keyboard back.
If that is what happened to you, your not the only one.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=526857&highlight=Auto+suggest
I haven;t found a way to make it work without breaking the keyboard. I had to do a clear storage and learn to use T9. It better than a broken keyboard.
Yes that's what I did. If I have auto-suggest but NOT auto-complete on do you know if this will avoid the problem??
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Yes that's what I did. If I have auto-suggest but NOT auto-complete on do you know if this will avoid the problem??
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I'm not really sure. I tried several ways and nothing worked, my guess is your are likely to still have an issue. BTW going back an changeing the registry edits back did not fix the issues for me. I had to clear storage and start from scratch each time.
For now I'm learning to live with XT9. I don't like it as much as the original, but it is usable. The alternative is using MS tiny little SW keyboard, and to me, that is even worse.
Now if someone could figure out how to keep the alternate keyboards from popping up, in theory, that should remedy the issue. Unfortunately, I have no such skill.
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Did you disable eT9 and to get Auto suggest and auto complete back? If so that is probably what did it.
I had the same problem when I hacked my Tilt 2 to get get auto suggest and auto complete back. Apparently when you do this it works fine until the fallowing happens:
A. You get to a field that triggers you keyboard to switch number entry mode (Nummber pad with P and W)
b. You get to a field that trigger the keyboard to internet entry mode (Keyboard with ".com" and "/" but no spacebar).
Once you enter either mode you can't key you regular keyboard back.
If that is what happened to you, your not the only one.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=526857&highlight=Auto+suggest
I haven;t found a way to make it work without breaking the keyboard. I had to do a clear storage and learn to use T9. It better than a broken keyboard.
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Try this to fix it: start Opera, tap the url field, which will bring up the "search the web" field. Then tap the "search the web" field. This should fix your keyboard (at least it works for me), at least until the next time something triggers the keyboard problem.
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Try this to fix it: start Opera, tap the url field, which will bring up the "search the web" field. Then tap the "search the web" field. This should fix your keyboard (at least it works for me), at least until the next time something triggers the keyboard problem.
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Thanks for the input, good to know.
That may be a work around for the Internet input issue (maybe), but we still have the issue with the numeric input Keyboard. Thus far the best option, at least for me, is to live with XT9 until a terminate fix is found.
On the bright side, over all I love my TP2/Tilt2!
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Thanks for the input, good to know.
That may be a work around for the Internet input issue (maybe), but we still have the issue with the numeric input Keyboard. Thus far the best option, at least for me, is to live with XT9 until a terminate fix is found.
On the bright side, over all I love my TP2/Tilt2!
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Actually, this works for the numeric input keyboard issue as well - I have experienced this first hand. addmittedly, it is a bit of a pain to switch from whatever you happen to be doing, to opera, just to fix your keyboard.
Any one else have this issue and were they able to resolve it?
When ever I try to enter an appt into the calendar my touch input switches to a numeric pad with a P and a W. It is the same pad people have gotten with Opera 9. It does not switch back unless I go to Opera (it was never open) and touch on the address bar. At this point it will go back to the Qwerty touch input. This is a very clunky work around but it is the only one I am aware of.
It will do this even if I use the hardware keyboard to input data in the appt fields. Anyone know what causes this or how we can fix it?
Because you didn't mention witch rom you use I can only say try another rom. I never have had this problem. Or you can try a hard reset first.
I am using the stock ATT rom. I have hard reset it a few times for other reasons and it is still the same.
If you are entering text it stays as qwerty but as soon as you go to one of the drop down boxes for the time of the appt it switches to the number pad with the w and the p whichis fine as you are entering numbers. Unfortunately it does not change back to qwerty even if you try and add somting in the text boxes again.
If you open Opera and click first on the address bar, then on the Google search bar, the qwerty keyboard usually comes back.
Is it possible to stop the soft keyboard to popup by default? If I read an SMS in portrait the soft keyboard will show and take up half the screen, but if I would reply I would flip out the hard keyboard and type on that.
Still it's good to have the option to type with the soft keyboard, so I dont want to remove it completely, only stop it from showing by default.
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Is it possible to stop the soft keyboard to popup by default? If I read an SMS in portrait the soft keyboard will show and take up half the screen, but if I would reply I would flip out the hard keyboard and type on that.
Still it's good to have the option to type with the soft keyboard, so I dont want to remove it completely, only stop it from showing by default.
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The advanced configuration tool has a setting for this. I can't say if it works, I've never tried to shut mine off.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=418151
I'm using a swedish version of desire-z and sometimes (too often) the phone decides that i'm trying to write capital letters when i'm using the swedish letters Å Ä and Ö. This even happens in the middle of words and the only way to type small letters is by using the software kwyboard. The shift button does nothing.
This is really starting to bug me! Does anyone have a solution?
If so please let me know.
Thanks!
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I think those letters can only be used in upper case with the keyboard. There is some info in the dev section.
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ddotpatel said:
I think those letters can only be used in upper case with the keyboard. There is some info in the dev section.
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That is not true. I have the nordic version myself, but I am not experiencing the same issue as lugiber Mine works both in upper case at the beginning of words, and in the middle of a text in lower case
Edit: Lugiber: Does it happen with all the extra letters, or just some of them?
Yes, my mistake. I have re-read the thread in the dev section myself.
Looks like it is a bug at the moment, but shutting and re-opening the keyboard helps??
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Ah, didn't know that opening and closing the hardware keyboard fixed the issue. Thanks for the tip! It's still annoying that i have to do this just for the simplest functionality on my phone! Hope the fix will come soon.
(Btw if someone is thinking of buying swiftkey don't do it until a fix has been released becase it will cause åä and ö to constantly be capital letters.)
Crap! I really love this phone, too bad htc didn't have sense enough to beta test the phone enough before the release.
But if they did i guess the wait would have been even longer. And that wouldn't have been fun!
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Porcelina said:
Edit: Lugiber: Does it happen with all the extra letters, or just some of them?
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I have no idea. I never write in Danish or Norwegan so those button pretty much stay untouched. Sorry!
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I had the same problem with my DZ in the beginning, and traced the problem down to language selection of the keyboard!
Try to slide out the keyboard and watch two letters pop up in the notification bar - for mine it was EN, and figurated out that it was set to english! After I changed it to Danish, the problem went away! Soo kool...
Enur said:
Try to slide out the keyboard and watch two letters pop up in the notification bar - for mine it was EN, and figurated out that it was set to english! After I changed it to Danish, the problem went away! Soo kool...
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I noticed that the first day I used the DZ, and changed it... maybe thats why I havent experienced the same problem as TS
Strange - I have a nordic Z also and my danish letters is upper case also sometimes..
I have set my keyboard to danish and T9 (guessing words..).
Either we need to play around more with the language settings or there is a bug...
Hmm, strange. I have set my keyboard to swedish and still experience the issue. Hope there is a bug fix for this soon. I don't want to wear out my keyboard hinges just yet.
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One solution is select STOCK virtual QWERTY as default input method. That way the bug goes away. Installing any 3rd party virtual keyboard will cause the bug.
Enur said:
Try to slide out the keyboard and watch two letters pop up in the notification bar - for mine it was EN, and figurated out that it was set to english! After I changed it to Danish, the problem went away! Soo kool...
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I have the same problem, and unfortunately this didn't solve it. :-(
Anja
works on touch
mine works fine if i use the default "Touch input" keyboard, but doesn't work on any other keyboard i have tried. So far only tested "Scandinavian keyboard" and "Smart Keyboard pro".
The fact that it does work consistently (without having to open/close the hardware keyboard) with the default keyboard but not in any other, makes me think that the keyboard sends the code for a capital letter and probably sends some correction info along that the default keyboard listens to but the others ignore... just my guess, i really have no experience with how the keyboards work in android...
I have investigated this CAPS nordic problem too. I have found few ways to generate the situation. It appears to generate caps when you haven't activated textfield by tapping it. For example when you write two sms messages in a row. At the first message you tap the textfield to active it and write the message. After sending the first message the text field is allready "active" (cursor blinking there). And if you start to write immediately without closing keyboard or tapping text field it generates only capital nordic letters. Then if you tap the textfield to really activate it again then the capital nordic letters are gone.
I'm not sure if this is the only problem with this CAPS thing but that is easy way to generate it. I think there might be few other situations where CAPS problem exists because sometimes pressing menu -key twice (open and close menu) caps problem disappears but sometimes not. Then sometimes it disappears when closing and opening the keyboard sometimes not. Best results I have had with tapping text field from screen to activate it.
I have informed HTC Support for this matter but all I have got back is: Hard reset your device. I have once done that but it doesn't help either.
Vexix said:
I have investigated this CAPS nordic problem too. I have found few ways to generate the situation. It appears to generate caps when you haven't activated textfield by tapping it. For example when you write two sms messages in a row. At the first message you tap the textfield to active it and write the message. After sending the first message the text field is allready "active" (cursor blinking there). And if you start to write immediately without closing keyboard or tapping text field it generates only capital nordic letters. Then if you tap the textfield to really activate it again then the capital nordic letters are gone.
I'm not sure if this is the only problem with this CAPS thing but that is easy way to generate it. I think there might be few other situations where CAPS problem exists because sometimes pressing menu -key twice (open and close menu) caps problem disappears but sometimes not. Then sometimes it disappears when closing and opening the keyboard sometimes not. Best results I have had with tapping text field from screen to activate it.
I have informed HTC Support for this matter but all I have got back is: Hard reset your device. I have once done that but it doesn't help either.
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My experience is slighty different from this one.. But if i write a SMS with HW keyboard, send it and exit the sms thread iam in and go to a new one and write there, the cap letters will be there.. This is if i use the HW keyboard during this .. If i then close the HW keyboard and pull it out again they are gone!
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My experience is slighty different from this one.. But if i write a SMS with HW keyboard, send it and exit the sms thread iam in and go to a new one and write there, the cap letters will be there.. This is if i use the HW keyboard during this .. If i then close the HW keyboard and pull it out again they are gone!
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I think it is the same situation. When you don't close the HW keyboard and you go to writing text without activating text box by tapping screen you get capital nordic letters.
I got reply from HTC Support from England that they are not aware of that problem (after few replys where I explained the situation) and they gave me Norwegian support phone number, but because of costs to phone there I'll asked if they could give me an email address. Plus I can then get some documentation about what have been discussed even if support person changes. I hope we soon get official fix for this.