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HTC S620 (Excalibur) and T9...

Does anybody know a way to install T9 or the newer version from the Dash on the S620? I really like the word-completion feature of my other smartphones and PPC's.
Thanks!

we'll probably have to wait until someone extracts the extrom of the dash rom

Careful what you wish for

why did you buy the S620 if it is to put T9 on it?
The only benefit of this smartphone is the full qwerty keyboard, it sounds a bit strange to want to restrict yourself to the numeric pad to type your messages?

It's actually the newer xT9, you're not restriced to the numeric keys -- it predicts as you're typing words with the qwerty keyboard. Future versions might be more useful, but I find it more of a hinderance now. There's no way to configure it or edit the dictionary, it kicks in when you don't necessarily want it to and memorizes passwords, as well as showing them while you're entering them. Where ever the dictionary resides, mine is full of typos and passwords. Would be nice if you could uninstall or just shut it off. You can press ALT then SPACE and switch to just letter entry, but at some point it'll come back...
unlockMe said:
why did you buy the S620 if it is to put T9 on it?
The only benefit of this smartphone is the full qwerty keyboard, it sounds a bit strange to want to restrict yourself to the numeric pad to type your messages?
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I understand that T9 is directed more towards standard phone keyboards, but I use it on my Hermes all the time. When typing a long email, the word completion can save time.

T9 dictionary edit
I am super annoyed by wrong words being added to the T9 dictionary!
I tried using the msT9Ed.exe, but it seems to not find the correct file.
I did find a file called "eT9Cdb.cdb" in the Windows folder, but don't know if this is the right thing to edit.
Anyone found something lately to edit the T9 dictionary?

newer xT9
chaznet said:
It's actually the newer xT9, you're not restriced to the numeric keys -- it predicts as you're typing words with the qwerty keyboard. Future versions might be more useful, but I find it more of a hinderance now. There's no way to configure it or edit the dictionary, it kicks in when you don't necessarily want it to and memorizes passwords, as well as showing them while you're entering them. Where ever the dictionary resides, mine is full of typos and passwords. Would be nice if you could uninstall or just shut it off. You can press ALT then SPACE and switch to just letter entry, but at some point it'll come back...
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Hi All
Great site
my first post so forgive me now.
I have only just got a s620 phone and very new to it all, so learing all the time.
love the phone.
I just have a cab file that I put on my sd card and install it, it has languges english french germanitalian spanish dutch czech greek romanian polish portuguese slovak turkish hungarian in the language options, i have version v01.01 dont know how old this is or if a new version is about.
But I had to put on xT9 as after a rom upgrade my key pad was all messed up and being a newbie not knowing much at all this may be off subject but any one give me a link I can read or any help as to why?
thanks
Ill now go on reading to see if i can find any thing out myself
thatnks for yu time

leggoman said:
Hi All
Great site
my first post so forgive me now.
I have only just got a s620 phone and very new to it all, so learing all the time.
love the phone.
I just have a cab file that I put on my sd card and install it, it has languges english french germanitalian spanish dutch czech greek romanian polish portuguese slovak turkish hungarian in the language options, i have version v01.01 dont know how old this is or if a new version is about.
But I had to put on xT9 as after a rom upgrade my key pad was all messed up and being a newbie not knowing much at all this may be off subject but any one give me a link I can read or any help as to why?
thanks
Ill now go on reading to see if i can find any thing out myself
thatnks for yu time
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I think this is what you need to fix your keyboard http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2271723&postcount=1

Both fixes in sig as depends on location US or UK?
After install reboot, then in text input box FN+Space ABC.

xt9
stylez said:
Both fixes in sig as depends on location US or UK?
After install reboot, then in text input box FN+Space ABC.
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thanks for the reply
and Im kind of getting the hang of things now with this phone.
just one thing, I will search and see if i can find it, but if you read this could you place a link in you reply where i can find UK.English xt9? I saw this in your reply and is just what I need as I have the US version.
OPPS it is a link in your post silly me LOL thats what sig ment
thanks again for your help. all working great now
great site so much info and help

What about a french release ?

Hi, and first of all, as I said in a previous thread, thanks for this marvelous release !
I'm french and if I can work in english, it is more comfortable for me to use a frech interface So, does someone want to work on a french release ? My contribution can be the translation for all texts you would submit.
Anyone interested ?

+1
Hi,
I agree, I love WM6, english doesn't bother me nevertheless a french version would be cool.
I use lvsw's and it works great with SFR in France (radio 1.35.00.11 catches UMTS nicely, the voicemail icon works etc...)
Can someone estimate the time it would take to cover all files to translate ?

Would be quite interested too. Having to wait for the official release of WM5 (to have a security backup) or even the WM6 French edition (apparently Q2 2007 as for HTC France) is too bothersome
But I think translating everything would be also a pain in the a..please wait 2 seconds for an uncompressed image

I made a small cab which at least change the input settings and spell check into french. The ROM stays in English of course.
More info here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=297222

Virtual keyboard layout dll
I've seen that virtual keyboard layout is based on two dlls... Does someone have those ?

French Kbd Layout
Hi all,
Cool that this thread leveraged some interest
Based on everyday use of both french and english layout, I think it could be smart to create an hybrid layout, mix of azerty and qwerty, ie :
- Use azerty 1st row accents but invert shift behavior to have digits without shift
- same thing for commonly used characters like @ ' to also get them without shifting (1 click instead of 2)
What do you think ?

Free Hebrew support for TP2

Did anyone find a Hebrew support package that works on the Touch Pro2?
I tried Eyron, PDAC, Paragon (LEng) and badnimits but non of them seems to work
With all of them I tried the basic support without UI translation but still no luck.

also looking...
for the hebrew support

Same, Need help =D...
Rbroudo and Coneman23.
add me at MSN
[email protected]
let's try and sort things out together...

OK, We have a winner !!! OSM is the man
After HR. I installed:
1) OSM Hebrew package
2) AEKMap for with the updated TP2 Hebrew layout for hardware keyboard support
3) Finger Keyb for Hebrew soft keyboard support
Almost everything is working great & the device response is hardly effected.
Two things I have noticed:
1) Known issue - Opera is showing Hebrew LTR
2) In text messages I receive sometimes digits are displayed in Arabic I guess this is font dependent

didn't get it, if you're looking for FREE hebrew - why check out eyron & pdac!?
anyway, I tried the PDAC with the registry changes I directed you to before at pocketpcfreak - and it WORKS !
second, just TODAY i recieved an email fro EYRON's support saying that you can download a trial version of hebrew FOR TP2 from their site.
wanna try it out ?

Yep why not

Tourist! said:
didn't get it, if you're looking for FREE hebrew - why check out eyron & pdac!?
anyway, I tried the PDAC with the registry changes I directed you to before at pocketpcfreak - and it WORKS !
second, just TODAY i recieved an email fro EYRON's support saying that you can download a trial version of hebrew FOR TP2 from their site.
wanna try it out ?
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For those of us who don't read Hebrew so well, can you repeat the registry changes?
Thanks,
Michi

MichiK said:
For those of us who don't read Hebrew so well, can you repeat the registry changes?
Thanks,
Michi
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yes, but gimme some time, i'll try to post it today.
and yuuvi, let us know how it goes...

Tourist! said:
didn't get it, if you're looking for FREE hebrew - why check out eyron & pdac!?
anyway, I tried the PDAC with the registry changes I directed you to before at pocketpcfreak - and it WORKS !
second, just TODAY i recieved an email fro EYRON's support saying that you can download a trial version of hebrew FOR TP2 from their site.
wanna try it out ?
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Its not so much the "free" as finding a light Hebrew support.
Coming from the TYTN with its challenging memory configuration finding a light Hebrew support made HUGE difference.
Today even though the TP2 has much more memory I don't see a reason waisting it on something as basic as reading and writing in Hebrew.

ok, here we go... i'll try my best:
go to
HKLM/software/Tegic/eT9/XT9suportMSSip and change the value to 0
then, hop over to:
HKLM/system/currentcontrolset/control === here you need to change 2 values:
the first: layouts/e0010409/imefile change the value there to windows/compime.dll
the second: layouts text change the value there to COMP IME
reset and you're ready to go !
all credit to harvey from pocketpcfreak forum
hope all is clear...

I didn't find any TP2 version on Eyron's site.
And TBH, I dont give a **** ^^..
The free hebrew package that is offered above in this thread is way better, doesnt slow down your device, and is compatible with everything
=]

Yuuvi said:
I didn't find any TP2 version on Eyron's site.
And TBH, I dont give a **** ^^..
The free hebrew package that is offered above in this thread is way better, doesnt slow down your device, and is compatible with everything
=]
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OK, here's the link:
www.pocketpc.co.il/license/secure/downloads/2006/MUI_TouchPro2.exe
hey, give a **** or not... you promised to try... ;-)
NOW, about the hebrew above a few questions:
any bugs ? (opera etc.)
any extras ? (hebrew manila ? hebrew contacts scroll bar ?)
what's the difference in memory consumption ?

rbroudo said:
OK, We have a winner !!! OSM is the man
After HR. I installed:
1) OSM Hebrew package
2) AEKMap for with the updated TP2 Hebrew layout for hardware keyboard support
3) Finger Keyb for Hebrew soft keyboard support
Almost everything is working great & the device response is hardly effected.
Two things I have noticed:
1) Known issue - Opera is showing Hebrew LTR
2) In text messages I receive sometimes digits are displayed in Arabic I guess this is font dependent
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Wow. Just installed this on my TP2 and it works great!
Thanks!!!
Michi

Eyron Hebrew for TP2
OK, I installed it, it looked good at first, and is OK in general, BUT:
Caps shift/lock is disabled on hardware keyboard for english typing, and the cursor is a few spaces away from the place that it should be located when typing an email (again in english).
Now for people that don't use english a whole lot, these problems may not matter that much, but for me they do...

sjescott said:
OK, I installed it, it looked good at first, and is OK in general, BUT:
Caps shift/lock is disabled on hardware keyboard for english typing, and the cursor is a few spaces away from the place that it should be located when typing an email (again in english).
Now for people that don't use english a whole lot, these problems may not matter that much, but for me they do...
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THIS IS EYRON RIGHT?
I use English 90% of the time so no good for me

sjescott said:
OK, I installed it, it looked good at first, and is OK in general, BUT:
Caps shift/lock is disabled on hardware keyboard for english typing, and the cursor is a few spaces away from the place that it should be located when typing an email (again in english).
Now for people that don't use english a whole lot, these problems may not matter that much, but for me they do...
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also tried - i can confirm all of the above.
also - if you have the regional settings set to hebrew the eyron will not let any .net cf based apps work ! you must change to english.
btw- p.d.a.c have released a .cab file to fix the "fun" button problem with the hardware keyboard.
in short, seems the free hebrew support is better than the rest but does anyone know of fixes for the mentioned problems ? i.e opera ltr & arabic fonts instead of digits ?

Good for start...
Tourist! said:
didn't get it, if you're looking for FREE hebrew - why check out eyron & pdac!?
anyway, I tried the PDAC with the registry changes I directed you to before at pocketpcfreak - and it WORKS !
second, just TODAY i recieved an email fro EYRON's support saying that you can download a trial version of hebrew FOR TP2 from their site.
wanna try it out ?
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Please, let me get the trial Hebrew support for TP2 and will see how to make it work!
pls, Download it from their site and make a RAR file for me for download at Rapidshare (or other download site...) and i will check it out...
Thanx In Advance!!

Tourist! said:
OK, here's the link:
www.pocketpc.co.il/license/secure/downloads/2006/MUI_TouchPro2.exe
hey, give a **** or not... you promised to try... ;-)
NOW, about the hebrew above a few questions:
any bugs ? (opera etc.)
any extras ? (hebrew manila ? hebrew contacts scroll bar ?)
what's the difference in memory consumption ?
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It is NOT working (the link...) can you upload it by yourself for checking ?
Thanx

EYRON hebrew not good for htc touch pro2
hello members
i tryed to install EYRON heberw from there site, and all i see it green things on my htc pro2. so means its not working. and i buy it from EYRON.
they said they build the hebrew not for my rom only for oldest rom that came from newpan compay bring to israel.
so if you have new rom more then they have u cant install there hebrew.
im waiting for new EYRON version, or like they said install old rom they it will be good wich i will not do things like that.
so every one will think what to do.
your prince here

rbroudo said:
OK, We have a winner !!! OSM is the man
After HR. I installed:
1) OSM Hebrew package
2) AEKMap for with the updated TP2 Hebrew layout for hardware keyboard support
3) Finger Keyb for Hebrew soft keyboard support
Almost everything is working great & the device response is hardly effected.
Two things I have noticed:
1) Known issue - Opera is showing Hebrew LTR
2) In text messages I receive sometimes digits are displayed in Arabic I guess this is font dependent
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Is there anyway of combining the FN key with another key for the AEK language toggle?

HTC could serve customers better

Htc makes only one European ROM at the time. There is four main languages for ex. English, Spanish, French...
In Europe are many other languages. If Htc does not want to make ROM for those languages, it could make T9 dictonary and Windows Virtual Keyboard in any case.
Many people understand English so well, that they do not need entire ROM translated into their language, but they need keyboard and T9 dictonary for writing their mother language.
Now Internet are full of different instruction, how to put T9 in action. Many of those are for the phones, which does not fit to Htc Touch HD.
I hope, that Htc could make language packs for different languages in Europe and serve the customers in this way better.

Matti23 said:
Htc makes only one European ROM at the time. There is four main languages for ex. English, Spanish, French...
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What do you mean? I have Swedish language in my Htc....

Matti23 said:
Htc makes only one European ROM at the time. There is four main languages for ex. English, Spanish, French...
In Europe are many other languages. If Htc does not want to make ROM for those languages, it could make T9 dictonary and Windows Virtual Keyboard in any case.
Many people understand English so well, that they do not need entire ROM translated into their language, but they need keyboard and T9 dictonary for writing their mother language.
Now Internet are full of different instruction, how to put T9 in action. Many of those are for the phones, which does not fit to Htc Touch HD.
I hope, that Htc could make language packs for different languages in Europe and serve the customers in this way better.
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There are at least 15 languages available for your T9.
HTC serves you pretty well, don't you think?

Fire69 said:
There are at least 15 languages available for your T9.
HTC serves you pretty well, don't you think?
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On www.htc.com/support is only one ROM, and that is WWE. I can not see any other. I found on xda-developers -site one Finnish ROM and downloaded it. There were no Finnish word. Finnish was one of the languages, but I could not see any work with it.
Where are the 15 ROMs?
I had Samsung Omnia for a short time ago, and when Samsung had made Finnish ROM, it was really Finnish. Windows mobile had translated into Finnish. Windows Virtual Keyboard was with ä, å and ö and T9 worked well.
I have had many HTC - phones. Now I have three: Artemis, Iolite and HD.
I am looking forward to have T9 Finnish and Windows Virtual Keyboard with ä, å and ö.

I didn't say there were 15 ROM's availabe, but there are at least that many languages for the T9.
Look for '14 language T9 cab' and you will find an installer to enable extra languages for your T9.

Fire69 said:
I didn't say there were 15 ROM's availabe, but there are at least that many languages for the T9.
Look for '14 language T9 cab' and you will find an installer to enable extra languages for your T9.
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Who has made it? Perhaps not Htc? I have tested that file, but T9 dictionary did not work. T9 remembers only the word, what I have written.

Matti23 said:
Who has made it? Perhaps not Htc? I have tested that file, but T9 dictionary did not work. T9 remembers only the word, what I have written.
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HTC did not make the cab-file, that is true.
But the dictionaries used by T9 are made by Microsoft or HTC.
I had to test several cab-files to before I got Dutch to work.
You'll have to try some more cab-files or search the forum some more.
Good luck.

in "defense" to matti i must say that (dont ask me how, maybe another row of keys?) imho some language-specific characters (eg ä ö for finns/swedes, è à ò ù etc for us italians) should be included in a specific keyboard layout. i dont use t9 as i find more a time waster than anything, but reaching the special characters by longpressing a key waiting x secs sliding to the desired one is just another time waster.

crashDebug said:
in "defense" to matti i must say that (dont ask me how, maybe another row of keys?) imho some language-specific characters (eg ä ö for finns/swedes, è à ò ù etc for us italians) should be included in a specific keyboard layout. i dont use t9 as i find more a time waster than anything, but reaching the special characters by longpressing a key waiting x secs sliding to the desired one is just another time waster.
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You should install FingerKeyboard then.
It allows you to set the delay before the special characters appears, it supports any layout you want, user-specified text (like smileys and so), ...

Installing 3 languages

I'm interested in purchasing this phone and would like to know if it is possible to add Hebrew and Russian languages to an English ROM. Is having 3 languages going to be a problem with typing through the qwerty keyboard?
keep in mind that Hebrew is right to left language (if it makes any difference :/ )
I used to own an HTC VOX and remember having a bit trouble with it. but then again, it was older OS.
Thanks in advance