Is the Elf battery the same as the Neon battery? - Touch GSM Accessories

I realize they have different part numbers, but the photos make them appear identical which would somewhat make sense since the phones are so similar.
Has anyone compared them side by side?
The reason I ask is because the wiki site here says that a variant of the Neon is the NTT DoCoMo FOMA HT1100, and when I searched for batteries for that model, it found this page: http://www.mybuybuddy.com/ntt-docomo-foma-ht1100-battery.html which shows the Elf battery as the replacement battery.

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Screen type different between older models & new ones!!

Ok, my brother bought his diamond & I thought I noticed that his colors were washed out but I thought it might just be me or either it’s the brightness settings.
Well, today I bought a new Diamond for my cousin & it seems no wonder what rom I tried or settings I change the colors are defiantly washed out unlike my older Diamond which came with 1.34.
I will try to take a picture of them both using the same rom. But anyway did anyone ever notice this before? Any info on this, yet?
EDIT: check the picture, look at the
1- backround much lighter color !!
2- Red,orange,green colors are much more vibrent in older model.
3- contrast on the left the black is much deeper !!
I noticed something similar when I compared the display of a HTC Diamond and a MDA Compact IV. The Display of the Diamond had somewhat warmer colors. The white was slightly more "yellowish". The MDA Screen was more cooler in color tone/temperature. it had a more steril look to it.
I personally favored the warmer screen of the Diamond.
I think this may (although I don't know how it's technically possible) that this is caused by the ROM that the device is running. I have noticed on some ROMs that my Diamond has a plain white background whereas on others the background is off-white or warmish-yellow as jones23 mentions.
Shouldn't this be in the Diamond section and not Diamond ROM Development?
HTC Builds most handsets in Taiwan (SN starts HT) or china the Taiwan models are usually more refined in manufacture and component quality. with previous touch models "Touch" "Touch Dual" this was very clear when the handsets are placed together with the Chinese made having a very poor screen, HTC also has a habit of tighter quality control on its network commission handsets (Network branded usually better standard) because of higher costs for return passed on from service provider
check the first post, i added a picture of both, left one is older versions.
Both roms are running dutty Hybrid rom, so exact copy.
Well there seems to be a difference i have a 3G And 2G both and 3G's screen seems much bright .
Totally the same
Naser404! Totally the same what I am facing.
Last month I bought a Touch Diamond which came with ROM 1.35.xx
That one is darker than my current one which I just bought today evening (ROM 1.37.xx) I was thinking my new one is fake one or something else before I found this forum. ha ha!
You know, the new one is noticeably smoother than the old one maybe because of newer ROM version. I also think like this, HTC reduce graphic quality to speed up TouchFlo 3D.
No bro, I tried with the same ROM, i am quiet sure its the lcd screen is of lower quality & therefore lower cost. Manufactureres always do that, if you even check the first Iphone released it had a diffrent screen then the ones released a month or two later.
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Naser404! I also think like this, HTC reduce graphic quality to speed up TouchFlo 3D.
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Oh! really? So I prefer my old diamond screen
I think it has something to do with spl.
I had same problem with my 1.37xxx diamond. but after flashing hard spl 1.40 i had screen flickering, then i flashed the 1.37 hard spl unsigned with the 1.93 rom, now brightness back to normal. screen flickering solved too. So ithink you should try flashing different spl.
My Diamond came in late June form China and I flashed with Unsigned-Hard-SPL-Diamond-OliNex 1.40 and Duttys Hybrid 5.2.19965 20270.
Today, I had to do the same process for my friend's device who got here locally in Cairo (and also to over come the know issue of unavailability of GPS b the ROM, as GPS is banned in Egypt !!!).
After finishing the flashing, surprisingly I noticed that there is a difference in colors of the 2 devices.
Mine the old one, is brighterwhile my friend's colors are washed. So I guess it has to do with the screen type and not the ROM or the SPL
Fortunatly, my device is older
ahegazi said:
My Diamond came in late June form China and I flashed with Unsigned-Hard-SPL-Diamond-OliNex 1.40 and Duttys Hybrid 5.2.19965 20270.
Today, I had to do the same process for my friend's device who got here locally in Cairo (and also to over come the know issue of unavailability of GPS b the ROM, as GPS is banned in Egypt !!!).
After finishing the flashing, surprisingly I noticed that there is a difference in colors of the 2 devices.
Mine the old one, is brighterwhile my friend's colors are washed. So I guess it has to do with the screen type and not the ROM or the SPL
Fortunatly, my device is older
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Your friends device might be a newer one with 1.37 rom installed. and you need the new unsigned hard spl 1.37 only for people who are having screen flickering. Try to swtich it might help.
Same problem here, mine looks like the one on the right
It's very annoying, if there was a way to adjust contrast this issue could be solved somewhat....
Also faced the same issue. My diamond was replaced for a wifi problem and the replacement had this newer screen that is as described in the 1st post. The washing out is most apparent when viewing the screen from an angle, where as the original screen would not show any washing out at ANY angle. The original screen was much better. I sent an e-mail to HTC support and recieved the following reply:
"Thank you for contacting HTC Corporation Middle East Support Firstly, we’re very sorry for your problems with your desired phone HTC and it’s our honour to have your trust. Regarding HTC Diamond displays, with a global shortage of LCD displays this year, HTC sourced from multiple vendors. All LCD displays meet our engineering specifications. We have compared displays side by side and there are subjective differences in appearance, but all meet our engineering specifications. So, many replacement will not solve the problem as the recently patches from screens will provide the same quality"
But I have noticed 1 good thing about the new screen, it is much better under the sun.
So can one of of you crazy programmers up to the task to make a program which adjusts contrast?

Help me find this

EDIT: Found it.
Hi, What Mod/Add-on changes the interface of the HTC Blue Angel (Siemens SX66) to where it looks like this --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiLRVLrOJdw&feature=related ?
I'm buying one of these soon. Could someone also list the Pro's and Con's, and tell me some information about it, experiences, etc.
Thanks.
Also, I heard there's different "versions" of it. How can I distinguish them from each other and which one is better?
Edit: Alright, I compared all of them and it appears that the Siemens one I'm getting has no camera, and the Vodafone v1620 is the "newest" version.
Why does the XDA III cost more than the Siemens, and why are there so many different versions?
Here's a comparison link if anyone's interested.
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdacom...3=111&id4=109&id5=360&id6=110&id7=112&id8=108
hi
1. the interface on the video is called SPB Mobile Shell, you can purchase it here: http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/ for 29.95$
skins and themes for personalization are found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=380103 or
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2239209&postcount=1245
2. Pros and Cons of the device itself:
+ highly upgradable (to wm5, wm6, wm6.1, even wm6.5)
+ huge display 3.5"
+ wlan
+ expandable memory with cheep sd cards, not microsd
+ 400Mhz is rather fast, and still overclockable to 527Mhz
+ comes with charger/sync cradle as a stand-up station, not just stupid usb cable
+ camera makes pretty good mp4 videos
+ extremely good support by this community
- mixed experiences in battery drainage
- no wpa2
- no sdhc, just sd up to 4gb (transcend)
- sometimes on wm6.1 it's a little slow
- camera makes crappy pictures
- because of the age, lousy support by retailers and service points
but that's just my 2 cents and how i experienced it, the rest of the specifications and what may be important to you, you can find on the page, you linked yourself.
3. there are different versions, that come with slightly different components, but in general, it's all the same HTC Blueangel, just:
- sx66 and sometimes mda3 come without camera
- pda2k appears to have less built-in ROM
- the xv6600 has a cam,but no wlan
the rest of the differences you can read here:
different mainboards: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BlueangelBoardIDs
the different models worldwide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=231913
the different displays (just for repair, in use they are the same): http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BlueangelLCD
and now, when you read that and all the links included, i suggest you go off, buy yourself a nice blueangel
then, when you have it, you surely need help upgrading to wm6.1, as of course, the interface you posted and want, does not run on wm2003se.
Chef_Tony
+ extremely good support by this community
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Definitely. Thanks a bunch. I'm going to sleep right now so I'll check the links later.
Just found this program today earlier and put it on my Trinity, it's a great programs and i love it.

[Q] GT-I9195 vs GT-I9195T ??

Does anyone know the differences between these 2 models of the S4 Mini?
As in the past, any "T" model variant of a Samsung phone meant it had different broadband hardware meant exclusively for Telstra in Australia. You could still use the phone on 2G with other providers sim cards, but no more than 2G. Now however I wonder if things have changed based on the following specs?
But on their own website, it states the following...
2G GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850/900/1800/1900 MHz)
3G HSPA+ (850/900/1900/2100 MHz)
4G LTE Cat 3 800/850/900/1800/2100/2600 MHz (Telstra, Vodafone, Open variants only)
Does that mean this phone will work on all broadbrand frequencies?
Or is the "T" model still only tied to Telstra's network?
KrazyKong said:
Does anyone know the differences between these 2 models of the S4 Mini?
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I asked a similar question not long ago in relation to rooting, but haven't had any answers yet.
Still, I might be able to help a bit: the 9195T definitely works on Vodafone's 3G network. I can't validate 4G because I'm on prepaid where 4G is not available. But the network type is HSPA:11 which is a 3G.
So, as much as the T seems to be Telstra-capable model, its 3G definitely works on Vodafone. Maybe its 4G won't.
Hopefully it helps a bit ~
[edit] oh wait, I already told you the same thing on the other forums >_<
Maybe it helps someone else then!
does anyone here have this device (gt-i9195T) ?
I've got GT-i9195L which stands for "Latin".
Samfirware publishes ROMs for Colombia and Puerto Rico only.
The only ROMs I see listed for GT-i9195T are for Australia.
Maybe there's a hint about what the T stands for.
I've looked into the specs on the samsung site. I was interested in the 2100mah Battery of the GT-i9195T and found out, that it is about 2mm thicker than the GT-i9195.
Wich would explain the bigger battery. Only thing left to find out is, where to get the battery + back cover. Because people who bought the GT-i9195T should have the possibility to buy the original battery for their device like we have with the GT-i9195.
junkyde said:
I've looked into the specs on the samsung site. I was interested in the 2100mah Battery of the GT-i9195T and found out, that it is about 2mm thicker than the GT-i9195.
Wich would explain the bigger battery. Only thing left to find out is, where to get the battery + back cover. Because people who bought the GT-i9195T should have the possibility to buy the original battery for their device like we have with the GT-i9195.
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i opened a specific thread on i9195t, so maybe we can have more info!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2528917
Would you share with us your situation?
I read a lot about you on whirpool forum but i have problem to sign up...
I want to know if someone of you try to install cyanogenmod and also if batteries are interchangeble between i9195T and i9195, apart of case... thanks!
xperiaactive said:
I want to know if someone of you try to install cyanogenmod and also if batteries are interchangeble between i9195T and i9195, apart of case... thanks!
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Yes - GGM works fine using the stuff from on wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Serranoltexx_Info and instructions/links from wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Install_CM_for_serranoltexx.
Just finished it, took a while to do it all (only my second CGM device) but all seems fine and seems to work ok. (I did backup to external sdcard just in case, but haven't needed it yet - touch wood.)
have you found the possibility to buy the 9195T battery + backcover? searched the internet, but couldn't find something.
junkyde said:
have you found the possibility to buy the 9195T battery + backcover? searched the internet, but couldn't find something.
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my aussie friend syskin told me that samsung.au have a promotion to receive 2 gift cover giving part number ))
if i found a way to someone develop glove mode on s4 mini ( which is definetly possible, i told in my thread linking the file of 9100) i am pretty sure to order a s4 mini from telstra ))) junkyde are you interested??? ahahhaha
PS i told you that i9195t has s3 battery... practically is too big for i9195 standard layout. Not 100% sure but we can ask to our friends upstairs
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Yes - GGM works fine using the stuff from on wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Serranoltexx_Info and instructions/links from wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Install_CM_for_serranoltexx.
Just finished it, took a while to do it all (only my second CGM device) but all seems fine and seems to work ok. (I did backup to external sdcard just in case, but haven't needed it yet - touch wood.)
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Hi! Thanks for you info!!!
We have a lot on envy for your special i9195T...
do you have Telstra big battery edition? the 2100mah one?
Cause we are asking ourselves:
1) it is definetely an S3 battery?
2) where you can find cover, and normal i9195 cover fit or not on your phone ( without battery )
3) cyanogenmod goes well? and recognize your full battery?
Thank you dr pixie!
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1) it is definetely an S3 battery?
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No it's not, I've just checked with international i9300. S4 mini battery is thinner and longer. S3 battery is thicker and shorter. Corners of the battery doesn't fit in the S4 mini housing (other gouging near the contacts ). I wasn't able to power up the phone.
xperiaactive said:
We have a lot on envy for your special i9195T...
do you have Telstra big battery edition? the 2100mah one?
Cause we are asking ourselves:
1) it is definetely an S3 battery?
2) where you can find cover, and normal i9195 cover fit or not on your phone ( without battery )
3) cyanogenmod goes well? and recognize your full battery?
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1) I don't know anything about the 'S3' battery but I can tell you my (Telstra) GT-I9195T's battery:
- is labelled SAMSUNG and "EB-L1G6LLU 2100 mAh" and on the other side "3.8 V Li-ion BATTERY 7.98 Wh"
- dimensions are 5.25mm (thick) x 50.5mm (wide) x 63.1mm (tall).
2) The cover came with the phone, I haven't tried an alternative, and I don't mind the stock silver/grey fine grid, so I didn't look to change it.
3) CGM goes just fine - the only problems have been mine. It doesn't tell me the battery capacity but is does charge to 100% (!) And seems to give good life, but I don't use it all that much.
drpixie said:
1) I don't know anything about the 'S3' battery but I can tell you my (Telstra) GT-I9195T's battery:
- is labelled SAMSUNG and "EB-L1G6LLU 2100 mAh" and on the other side "3.8 V Li-ion BATTERY 7.98 Wh"
- dimensions are 5.25mm (thick) x 50.5mm (wide) x 63.1mm (tall).
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Thanks,
I've googled the label and found out that it is the same label as for a s3 battery, but the dimensions on the amazon page are a bit different (62,50 x 50,30 x 5,25)
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junkyde said:
Thanks,
I've googled the label and found out that it is the same label as for a s3 battery, but the dimensions on the amazon page are a bit different (62,50 x 50,30 x 5,25)
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I wouldn't worry about those small dimension variations - if the part number is the same, the dimensions will be variations between official and actual and maybe the way I measured it. When you put the battery in the case, there's maybe 1mm tolerance and the variation is well within that.
So I tested the s3 battery of a friend inside my s4 mini. The s3 battery is shorter, but it wouldn't be a problem, because you can stuff something beneath it. The main problem are these corners, which I marked green:
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Because of them, the battery can't reach the contacts obove. But if it could, it would work fine I think. Because even if the s4 mini battery is taller, I managed to put it in the s3 just at the contacts and the s3 booted.
I9195t root
Can you still use the normal method to root the Australian device?

LG LM-T600L - msm8996 soc, 8000mAh battery, android pie OS, dual screen

https://www.mylgphones.com/lg-v60-lmt600l-gets-certified-by-rra-in-korea.html
LG today posted the kernel source code for LM-T600L
I just noticed that there are two battery files in the folder, LMT600L_Kernel_Pie.tar\kernel\msm-4.4\arch\arm64\boot\dts\lge
one is 8000mAh battery, and another is 6000mAh battery
is it mean that LM-T600 is an upcoming tablet?
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I heard something recently as there may be a third G8 smartphone after the arrival of G8 and G8s.
Something related with LGs idea of fold display (let's say "Dual Screen" or "Triple Screen" possibility) even though it will lack some of the futures G8 and G8s has.
Anyway, for the "LM-T600" reference, you actually have 3 : the T600, T600L and T600US and as I assume, it's well a tablet : http://opensource.lge.com/osSch/list?types=ALL&search=T600
lm-t600us
these devices do not have a dedicated post yet, how do i ask for one?
i picked up a NEW , but broken , ( easy fix to me ) tablet, and now i need to root it, VERIZION put TONS of crapware on these things..
-note- i will gladly switch the KDZ as i NEVER plan on using this for cellular, if it helps. (plus it seems ALL HARDWARE is the same across the mobile versions except the frequencies.
PS: if you ever take one apart, message me, as its not hard, but there is a few tips to share.
does anyone know , can i flash another KDZ to my LM600 ? (i have a VS version, but would like to flash the WIFI only KDZ )
the chipset seems to be the same across the 600's ?

Why have the S20 Forums been combined into one useless mess?

Why have the S20 Forums been combined into one useless mess?
I guess so that you could complain ?. I'm not getting what your issue is I guess
It's much better now than having to browse all forums one by one
jojos38 said:
It's much better now than having to browse all forums one by one
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Except the cameras are different. When people talk about the camera, you don't always know which model they're talking about. And as far as I can tell, the Ultra camera reviews thread is just gone.
I much prefer it as most news/mods etc are generic across the three models. If not then just add it to the thread title.
Only thing I wish was that the old sites redirected you as its taken me two days to realise ?
Personally I think there is too much variation in the models for it to make sense having one forum.
3 Different Models - with TOTALLY DIFFERENT CAMERA SYSTEMS, different accessories, different specs..
Further subdivided by the Snapdragon / Exynos division.. you effectively have 6 distinct software environments / hardware setups.. all merged into one mess.
Utterly stupid
jojos38 said:
It's much better now than having to browse all forums one by one
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Why are you browsing all of them? - Do you own all 3 devices?
Seems like we've switched to a system that's geared towards backseat browsers, while owners have to sift through 66% more ****e for no good reason.
At the minimum, they should have edited all the existing thread titles to be preceded with "S20U", "S20+", "S20" based on the forum they came from, so at least we know which model that topic was originated about. Going forward, if it's a model specific topic, like cameras or battery life, people need to start tagging them as such.
dajaco said:
Personally I think there is too much variation in the models for it to make sense having one forum.
3 Different Models - with TOTALLY DIFFERENT CAMERA SYSTEMS, different accessories, different specs..
Further subdivided by the Snapdragon / Exynos division.. you effectively have 6 distinct software environments / hardware setups.. all merged into one mess.
Utterly stupid
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Agreed. At minimum there should be separate forums for Snapdragon and Exynos, simply for the fact that Exynos (1) is rootable and (2) has its own share of issues.
I, personally, prefer it that way, as most tweaks, settings, circumstances are for all three models, as they are the same base. People (me as well) were posting these issues on all three forums to reach everybody.
Where my s20 ultra picture quality topic ? :crying:
What we can do now to get it back ?
truonglam said:
Where my s20 ultra picture quality topic ? :crying:
What we can do now to get it back ?
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Does anywhere know of good S20 Ultra only forums elsewhere?
I prefer to like it is now, easier to catch everything.
truonglam said:
Where my s20 ultra picture quality topic ? :crying:
What we can do now to get it back ?
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Your camera questions are still in this forum section:https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...cus-issues-t4061919/post82056967#post82056967.
I proposed the merge. I want to remind you all that:
First, not only current owner but also potential buyers would try to find information on XDA forums. Merging 3 forums into 1 make it easier for everyone to find information, especially for potential buyers who have yet to determine which model to buy.
Second, "XDA-Developers" is a development/hacking/mod-centric forum. It is actually harmful to development/mod/guide efforts to have 3 forums for the same model (development- wise), each with reduced userbase. As you can see, I posted a "HOW-TO Root S20 series" guide recently. I may not have done so if a. posting to one forum but userbase is too small to get me motivated, b. posting to all three forums but i will get exhausted by maintaining three identical threads. Merging three forums into one gives additional motivation to developers and actively encourages developers to support all three model instead of only the one they own.
Preliminary researches suggest that the ROM and Kernel sources are shared between these 3 models. No additional development effort will be needed for different models which use the same processor (apart from changing model names, toggle model switch in kernel configuration).
With mostly same software and hardware, reviews/problems/guides/QAs are kinda shared. Merging into one makes it easier for people to find information and threads can have much wider audience/engagement.
Development-wise, there are only two variants there:
S20 Series (Exynos) and S20 Series (Snapdragon)
dajaco said:
Personally I think there is too much variation in the models for it to make sense having one forum.
3 Different Models - with TOTALLY DIFFERENT CAMERA SYSTEMS, different accessories, different specs..
Further subdivided by the Snapdragon / Exynos division.. you effectively have 6 distinct software environments / hardware setups.. all merged into one mess.
Utterly stupid
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First, please be civilized and refrain from using profanity. The decision was made for a reason.
Second, there is actually not much variation there.
Yes, camera system is different for the Ultra but the benefits of a merged forum significantly outweighs the slight inconvenience of a "[S20U]" thread attribute or some slightly less useful information getting into your eye.
Accessories, regardless of their sizes (S20, S20+, S20U), were usually made with the same manufacturing. So if someone says, "The quality of my S20 LED case by Samsung is super poor", your S20 Ultra LED case may be affected too.
Specs. There is nothing different actually. You may say display, but S20, S20+ and S20U use the same model of display panel, specifically S6E3HAB. Size is the only difference. You may say RAM, but models have 4G and 5G variants and they use 8G and 12G respectively.
sublimaze said:
Agreed. At minimum there should be separate forums for Snapdragon and Exynos, simply for the fact that Exynos (1) is rootable and (2) has its own share of issues.
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Snapdragon is different from Exynos. That's true. But apart from processor, everything is the same. We now have two different development forums, one for Exynos, one for Snapdragon.
Snapdragon doesn't automatically make your device un-rootable. The problem is the two greedy big carriers in U.S., namely Verizon and ATT, not Snapdragon. All Greater Chinese, Korean (and maybe
Japanese) models are unlockable.
jesec said:
I proposed the merge. I want to remind you all that:
First, not only current owner but also potential buyers would try to find information on XDA forums. Merging 3 forums into 1 make it easier for everyone to find information, especially for potential buyers who have yet to determine which model to buy.
Second, "XDA-Developers" is a development/hacking/mod-centric forum. It is actually harmful to development/mod/guide efforts to have 3 forums for the same model (development- wise), each with reduced userbase. As you can see, I posted a "HOW-TO Root S20 series" guide recently. I may not have done so if a. posting to one forum but userbase is too small to get me motivated, b. posting to all three forums but i will get exhausted by maintaining three identical threads. Merging three forums into one gives additional motivation to developers and actively encourages developers to support all three model instead of only the one they own.
Preliminary researches suggest that the ROM and Kernel sources are shared between these 3 models. No additional development effort will be needed for different models which use the same processor (apart from changing model names, toggle model switch in kernel configuration).
With mostly same software and hardware, reviews/problems/guides/QAs are kinda shared. Merging into one makes it easier for people to find information and threads can have much wider audience/engagement.
Development-wise, there are only two variants there:
S20 Series (Exynos) and S20 Series (Snapdragon)
First, please be civilized and refrain from using profanity. The decision was made for a reason.
Second, there is actually not much variation there.
Yes, camera system is different for the Ultra but the benefits of a merged forum significantly outweighs the slight inconvenience of a "[S20U]" thread attribute or some slightly less useful information getting into your eye.
Accessories, regardless of their sizes (S20, S20+, S20U), were usually made with the same manufacturing. So if someone says, "The quality of my S20 LED case by Samsung is super poor", your S20 Ultra LED case may be affected too.
Specs. There is nothing different actually. You may say display, but S20, S20+ and S20U use the same model of display panel, specifically S6E3HAB. Size is the only difference. You may say RAM, but models have 4G and 5G variants and they use 8G and 12G respectively.
Snapdragon is different from Exynos. That's true. But apart from processor, everything is the same. We now have two different development forums, one for Exynos, one for Snapdragon.
Snapdragon doesn't automatically make your device un-rootable. The problem is the two greedy big carriers in U.S., namely Verizon and ATT, not Snapdragon. All Greater Chinese, Korean (and maybe
Japanese) models are unlockable.
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"But apart from processor everything is the same" - not true at all, different regions often have different camera suppliers (sony or samsung ususally), there is also evidence that the image signal processor is different between Snapdragon and Exynos Variants (resulting in significant image processing differences, not to mention different camera hardware!, and different base software due to the processor, region and carrier variations). The one thing these forums had above and beyond most forums - is a history of solving developer problems, group problem solving /raising issues. When the waters have been muddied this much by combining 6 significant variants all in one place, all the problems already divided by region, software version etc. have been needlessly muddled at the cost of problem solving/highlighting efficiency.
What has been gained? - well perhaps 'browsing convenience' - Which should be more important in a forum with 'developers' in the title; browsing convenience, or problem solving precision?
Why cant we make it so you can view either by device or as a family of devices.. why cant we do both? -- it seems to be a growing trend in the space that phones have lots of variants.. why choose precision of information OR viewing convenience.. - just make it possible to view the same topics with filters for either preference.. then nothing is lost.
So little has been gained for so much lost.
dajaco said:
"But apart from processor everything is the same" - not true at all, different regions often have different camera suppliers (sony or samsung ususally), there is also evidence that the image signal processor is different between Snapdragon and Exynos Variants (resulting in significant image processing differences, not to mention different camera hardware!, and different base software due to the processor, region and carrier variations). The one thing these forums had above and beyond most forums - is a history of solving developer problems, group problem solving /raising issues. When the waters have been muddied this much by combining 6 significant variants all in one place, all the problems already divided by region, software version etc. have been needlessly muddled at the cost of problem solving/highlighting efficiency.
What has been gained? - well perhaps 'browsing convenience' - Which should be more important in a forum with 'developers' in the title; browsing convenience, or problems solving precision?
So little has been gained for so much lost.
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There are also Antennae differences between regions - some having MMwave antennae and some not.. Check out ISP / Camera differences noticed here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHxRH8aYnUU
And this is purely Snapdragon vs Exynos camera differences.. before you factor in completely different hardware of the ultra camera...
dajaco said:
Why are you browsing all of them? - Do you own all 3 devices?
Seems like we've switched to a system that's geared towards backseat browsers, while owners have to sift through 66% more ****e for no good reason.
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Because even tho the specs are slightly different 80% of the thread on the forums works on all devices
Would it not be possible to make multi-device variant phone like this have forums that can be viewed either collectively or by device - can't there a link to each view type - or simple filter system?
It's better this way. Thread closed.

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