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On messages especially sometimes if I type too fast (and I can type very fast ) it misses out letters or just pauses for ages.
Most of the time the first letter I type in a message gets repeated. Sometimes it just decides to repeat one letter as if the key was stuck down.
On top of this messaging and any application where the device is trying to bring up a user input component is SLOW.
Ive not seen these problems mentioned anywhere yet. Is it just me?
Lewis
No, I've got the same problem. But I don't use that keyboard all that much. The main point for me was to get a phone/PDA with WLAN built in, something I believe the 9090 was first with.
same here, it's very annoying..
with the mms app this doesn't happen, input is as fast as in 2003..
Yeah, it is a bit laggy, still acceptable for me.
isn't it possible to somehow replace the messaging module? i use the keyboard very often and this can get really annoying..
I cannot speak for everyone, but I have found a solution that works.
Apparently, the Messaging applet is not getting enough clock cycles to properly process the keyboard input.
For me, simply closing Internet Explorer does the trick. (go into Memory, and make sure it's not listed in Running Programs) Try it now.
If it still occurs, soft reset the phone, and then attempt to use Messaging. Does the problem still occur? Probably not.
Let me know if this solves the issue. I will look more into it when I get the free time.
I found the keyboard horribly slow. That's straight after resets of all kinds and definately no IE.
I have the repeating problem at times, and I never run IE or any other programs at the same time minimized. I use PocketPlus, so programs aren't minimized, they are closed.
that's no good for me, still slow..
just installed rom 1.60c in my gf's qtek 2020 and it's fast as hell! messaging too..dont understand this strange behavior on the BA..
About the keyboard repeating, you can reduce the repeat rate at the keyboard settings..
Keyboard Issue
Has anyone actually solved the problem with the messaging program?
I downgraded back to WM2003 SE because message writing was such a pain. I would like to have WM5 but if and when someone can correct the messaging application.
Any news?
Thanks
Lewis
updated my Blue Angel to WM5 today and found no problem with typing. TheGadgetGuy's probably right about the memory.
I used to have the problem if I would type to fast it would repeat a lot, example "test" would be "testtttttttttttttttttttttt", I found a way to fix it:
A lot of people have been complaining with the same problems with the thumbboard in WM2005, well I found a way to fix it. As you know if you type really fast like a lot of us do with the thumbboard it will repeat and get stuck on a letter, example "fix" turns into "fixxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" then you have to backspace it all. Well let's just cut to the chase, the way to fix it is goto your Start > Settings > System > Keyboard > and goto Repeat Settings, and turn them all the way off (To the left). Tah dah, enjoy .
^The text above is copied from Zevink.com
Had all sorts of problems with WM5, one of the most annoying was this keyboard lag... I type a lot of SMS with it so this made the device unuseable for me.
Happily went back to 2003SE
The blue angel is the biggest pyle htc ever released. That is what is wrong with the ba.
Thanks for that Mikee4fun ... not quite so helpful ...
The only hardware issue I can see with the Blue Angel is with the Radio (Both Bluetooth and WiFi) in that they both seem to be poor in range and BT unstable. That said, BT in particular, may still be a software issue as under WM5 it seems a whole lot more reliable ...
To say the BA is a Pyle (Pile?) based on the fact that an internal thrown together version of WM5 (Trust me, this is the case if you do a bit of Hex editing on a decrypted nbf file and see all the temporary bootloader code which has references to ALL HTC devices by codename) is lacking in areas is not really a solid deduction. From what I have seen of this version of WM5 which has arguably been created in weeks rather than months like version 2003SE, I would say that it is on the whole a very impressive software and hardware solution.
I only hope HTC take the decision to officially update the BA to WM5 in order to fully eliminate all the software bugs in WM2003SE as even the current version of WM5 seems to me a whole lot better than even the latest patched WM2003SE version.
I cannot see it would take them a great deal more engineering time to correct the few issues that remain such as speed tweaks and the odd driver / software update to release a very impressive WM5 version. As Maimach has already proven a number of issues were quite simple to fix (Well, for someone as clever as Mamaich anyway!!!) ...
I had poor keyboard performance (lag) - made me downgrade
Bebbo, I'm afraid that won't happen because of the wish to make people buy new hardware instead of upgrading the stuff they already have. Remember that the biggest selling point of the Wizard and Universal is the WM5. So can HTC create a good WM5? Of course! Will their customers (not us, the providers, Dangaard and Brightpoint) allow them to? Probably not.
Well about the only thing that worked on WM5 was bluetooth...
I get the damned memory error on WM2003SE.... :x
How annoying. I think I'm going back to WM2003se. WM5 isn't that great. It behaves alot like WM2003fe except buggy :S It's not worth all the hastle just for on screen soft keys.
Hi all
I just got myself sent a Hermes the other day and I was looking around here, my favourite XDA resource, for nifty things I could do with it. One thing that seems to be all the rage is upgrading to WM6. Now, I'm all in favour of upgrading and the amount of information and material here is, well, staggering. Overwhelming even. But, for all I read, I miss one critical thing: why do we upgrade to WM6? What does it give us that WM5 doesn't?
All I see, at the moment, is a swankier interface and a faster operation. But neither of those are big sellers in themselves and don't justify the bricking and incompatibility risks. So, what's the big appeal that I've missed? I guess I'm looking for an excuse to do this
Lastly, as I mentioned, there's almost too much information about all this. i can follow the guides and tools for installation but one thing will vex me if I was to upgrade - and that's which ROM to use. Now I'm certain every one of you has a favourite and so I'm not looking for a definitive recommendation, but what the hot ones that I should look into at the moment? As I see it, the "XDA Live" and "Black" see pretty popular..
Cheers!
Three reasons for me.
1. TomTom doesn't occassionally freeze
2. Easier to set as a modem
3. More responsive menus, button presses, etc
By the way WM6 is more like WM5 second edition rather than a brand new system.
wywywywy said:
Three reasons for me.
1. TomTom doesn't occassionally freeze
2. Easier to set as a modem
3. More responsive menus, button presses, etc
By the way WM6 is more like WM5 second edition rather than a brand new system.
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Pretty much says it all. I never soft reset anymore. More memory, faster than WM5, better tweaks, and has some things WM5 didn't cooked in to the ROM. As for the risk of bricking, that's an extremely low risk, very minimal actually, if you follow the guide and wiki.
and html email is not to be sneezed at.
Because we can!
Mobile Office 2k7 can read o2k7 native formats. You will never see this on WM5 unless some imgfs God with a lot of time on his/her hands ports it there....
Native SD card encryption is Huge. The A2DP stack is a thing of wonder too....
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Because we can!
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exactly!!!!!!!!
My softbank x01ht came with WM5 and the only upgrade I did was the radio upgrade to 1.40.
May be it is my luck, but my x01ht seems really stable in its original ROM version (WM5 aku 2), I have never hard reset and the machine seems really stable. So my need to upgrade to WM6 to avoid system hang is not really existing.
Also, I use a lot of BUILT-IN functions such as Push Email, Wifi and Chinese support (my x01ht was flashed with a Hong Kong version 838 pro ROM before sold to me). If ANY one of such functions is WORSE in WM6 than in WM5, than WM6 is a no no for me. I can't stand any frequent freeze of the x01ht because I now depend solely on it for my daily phone/PIM use. If I don't have it working 100% normal, then I will lose many important phone calls.
I see WM6 really as an evolution of WM5. In WM6, MS has fixed many bugs that were in WM5, for example:
- Crappy A2DP
- WiFi now supports WPA
- HTML email
- Faster and more stable
- I'm sure MS has updated little things here and there to make WM6 more telco-standards (GSM, etc.) compliant
Well, are you still using Windows 95 on your PC?
My reasons for upgrading have been for (in order of importance) the speed, bug fixes, better memory management, the X button actually closing the app not just minimising it, Office updates, better compatibility and usability in the new Internet Explorer, etc.
When I bought my TyTN I was shocked by how slowly it responded to user input compared to previous Pocket PCs I'd owned.
After the developments that started occurring here a few months ago, there really was no turning back. I upgraded and now the OS is quick and very responsive. WM6 has been a godsend. The phone application also doesn't take 3-4 seconds to load when I press the call button to answer a call like it used to!
WM6 also has a much more polished look to it I think.
hold on, TomTom still freezes on mine with WM6 !
I still love it though (tomtom that is and wm6)
Let me know if this is solved will ya ?
ta
bb
I did it simply because WM5 was a little unstable and I love experimenting / playing with stuff like this.
A side benefit which I didn't know I would get is the LVSW version that I installed allows WPA2 & WPA2-PSK authentication on the Wi-Fi. That meant I could run my Hermes at the same security as my network and didn't have to modify my wireless router and other PCs.
There's probably still a few other good reasons that haven't been mentioned in this thread yet.
Cheers, Oggy.
Bug fixing, more speed,...
With WM5 I had issues like the phone applicatoin reacted too slowy on an incomming call. so i missed the call. Or sometimes it even didn't ring.
WM6 works in that point.
bingobob said:
hold on, TomTom still freezes on mine with WM6 !
I still love it though (tomtom that is and wm6)
Let me know if this is solved will ya ?
ta
bb
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Did you install TomTom 6.03??? As of that version I never had freezes anymore...
I to have tomtom lockup and sloooooowwwww to get map directions. Please I miss my fast tomtom 6. I am using 6.03. I wonder if i did something wrong. I never had this problem with wm5.
What about support?
One benefit of wm6 is that the hackers, tweakers, rom cookers, and random slackers such as myself keep this hermes wm6 forum active (albeit sometimes unforgiving to newcomers). If you have a question about wm6 on a hermes, it is probably already answered here. Can as much be said for the wm5 forums?
Just works
Personally I was about to ditch my TyTN. The default OS was infuriatingly slow, buggy, and had me resetting several times per day. If I hadn't stumbled upon XDA-develoopers and started flashing WM6, I would probably be a Nokia user again... WM6 just works. I've flashed maybe 10 different versions now, also the radio, and it's completely worth it. No big risk of bricking if you do your homework first.
F*SH said:
... faster operation. But neither of those are big sellers in themselves and don't justify the bricking and incompatibility risks. So, what's the big appeal that I've missed?
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I don't think anyone with half a brain has bricked their phone doing an OS only upgrade (especially if they read the wiki etc etc)... and you answered your own question... who doesnt want a faster device?
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Personally I was about to ditch my TyTN. The default OS was infuriatingly slow, buggy, and had me resetting several times per day. If I hadn't stumbled upon XDA-develoopers and started flashing WM6, I would probably be a Nokia user again... WM6 just works. I've flashed maybe 10 different versions now, also the radio, and it's completely worth it. No big risk of bricking if you do your homework first.
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I feel the same way as LazPL in that I was about to stop using the phone.
What I hated most about WM5 was a lack of real integration between the phone and contacts funtions, eg.:
. If you chose a call from the recent call list you could not access the contact directly (eg. if you just tried calling someone on their fixed line and wanted to try their mobile, you could not just click on the recent call you just made and select a different type of number, you had to select the name again from the list). In WM6 you can do this
. If you saved an unknown number from your recent call list it would automatically create a new contact, instead of giving you the option to save it in an existing contact (and choosing what type of number it was) or creating a new contact. In WM6 you can.
For me these 2 were just basic everyday usability features that I can find in the cheapest phones, and totally unacceptable to be missing in a €600 device. On the basis of these 2 alone, upgrading to WM6 was worth it.
In addition, my original Orange ROM had some bugs that were just pathetic (although these could have been cured with a newer ROM, or perhaps were due to the original radio ROM - which I also upgraded - and not the OS):
. Calls to busy numbers started blaring the busy tone through the loudspeaker (very loud)
. Trying to answer a call waiting would freeze the phone and require a soft reset
Hope that helps.
Pastings WIFI keys!!!
I've not been able to paste a wifi key in my WM05 ROM somone told me it was security...
rubish i think M$ to implement the copy/paste code.
Modem -> Bluetooth PAN is HUGELY more stable, my connection used to drop all the time in modem mode, i can now sit for 2 hours on my laptop at coffee shops and surf the web, whithout paying silly 1 day WIFI pass prices!
Hi all. I stumbled across the Sanyo NVM-4050 and NVM-4070 that are supposed to be able to send and receive SMS over bluetooth to your phone. They also act as a speakerphone similar to many other GPS units out there. Sanyo's website ( http://us.sanyo.com/entertainment/mobile/ ) provides next to no information. I can't seem to figure out if these would work with a WM6 based phone.
I've got an AT&T Tilt (Kaiser) and I'd prefer to know if this was going to work at all before I buy one of these units. I don't even know what profile would support this...surely not Handsfree right?
Thanks!
Bluetooth on NVM-4070
Good luck!
I have a Samsung SCH-i760, and the 4070 will not even find it via Bluetooth.. But I'm extremely happy with the unit otherwise..
-J
I ended up returning the 4070 and got a Tomtom Go 720. I like the unit quite a bit...but of course, still no SMS on my TyTN II. I'm pretty surprised that I haven't been able to find a solution to this one yet. Maybe I'm just looking in the wrong places? Does anyone have any info on how to get a WM6 device to transfer SMS over bluetooth?
-j
I think I am missing something....doesn't the TytnII already have GPS? What would the benefit be of pairing it with an external GPS device? I see whi it is good to have a larger screen for navigation when driving..but then why does it need to talk to the phone? What information would an SMS from a GPS unit to a phone contain?
Yes, the TyTNII already has GPS. I guess I just like gadgets!
Seriously though, the larger screen of the 720 is great when driving. I use the TyTNII's GPS once in a while but having a dedicated GPS in the car has been great (I recently moved to a new town).
The feature I'm talking about allows the 720 to read and write SMS messages from the phone. Think of it like an extension of a bluetooth speakerphone (which the 720 also does). If this worked I'd never have to take my phone out of my pocket. My GPS would allow me to make and receive calls as well as SMS. To be honest I'm most interested in the receive aspect of it. To have my incoming message displayed on a larger screen that is positioned where I can glance at it means I can then decide if it's something I need to deal with or it can wait.
The interesting thing is that some simpler (ie non WM) phones can do this...but our fancy ones can't! Well, not as far as I can tell...anyone prove me wrong? (please?)
BearJ,
OK, I get it. THis is something that is aimed directly at in the car use. Big screen on a dash-mounted device that can display your sms, caller ID, let you answer et. That does sound nice for those who spend a lot of time in a car. Thanks for enlightening me!
No problem! I don't spend a ton of time in my car but I do take longer drives from time to time and being able to see incoming SMS would be convenient. Ah well...seems I must wait until Microsoft makes this possible!
Guys,
For those that you bought the LG-KS20,propably you have noticed that there is a bug concerning voice announcements of Destinator or TOMTOM.
The voice announcements are cut off most of time.
But if you run in the background a windows media file (f.e an mp3 with no sound) you will see that the voice announcements are fully heard.
I was wondering if a kind developers can help us a bit and explain us why this is happening.
Best Regards
At least I made a small script to start the playback, then start TomTom and after closing TomTom stop the playback.
Maybe someone finds it useful.
Regards
Helmut
Thanks for you soft
i supposed it doesn't resolve the microphone probleme?
Is it possible to resolve the micro problem by the same kind of utilities?
Mouse007
I am the same one who has post post in the french <forummobile> which i was asking the sollution with the microphone.
The thing is that i test my phone yesterday through my office for 1 hour kai 15 minutes in GSM and 1 hour an 35 minutes with 3G.My Microphone did not turned off.
What can i say
moyse007 said:
Thanks for you soft
i supposed it doesn't resolve the microphone probleme?
Is it possible to resolve the micro problem by the same kind of utilities?
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I'm sorry this has nothing to do with your microphone bug, but since I remember having similar problems with my old SDA smartphone, which were caused by bad hardware design, I would suggest to send your phone to the service center. Maybe some KS20 phones are having similar defects, too. I'm afraid there will be no software solution for this bug.
Regards
Helmut
Thanks a lot , but the problem affects all the ks20 when we're calling outside 3G reception
I'm sure the problem could be solved by the same kind of software ...
I had also this problem occasionally and my favorite PDA reseller / SFR (Vodafone France) representative explained that the same problem occured with Nokia 3G+ phone using SFR networks.
Actually the problem would not lie with LG nor the ROM but with the SFR 3G+ network when the phone is switching between 3G+ and GPRS. The solution - as recommended by Nokia France in an official note further to this problem - is actually simply to block the phone to GPRS (or 3G+ if always available) network (instead of letting it switch automatically) until SFR fixed their network problem. Of course, if blocked to GPRS, you will need to change this everytime you want to use 3G+.
giannis123 said:
Guys,
For those that you bought the LG-KS20,propably you have noticed that there is a bug concerning voice announcements of Destinator or TOMTOM.
The voice announcements are cut off most of time.
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Maybe it cannot set the Audio buffer size properly... this bug involves not only Tomtom or Destinator but many other GPS navigation software too!!! This phone is FULL of BUGS!!!!! I've also try Miopap (iGo) software but it can't run in fullscreen mode because of top menu bar that cannot be hidden; then...this phone can't run any software using directDraw, so there's no 3D acceleration, no PointUI interface, no games, no iGo8...; I cannot use Skype and this due to the Qualcomm processor architecture...
hope a new rom is coming...now this phone (as is) sucks...
@gregnapola: Look into other posts - there IS a already a new row out for the KS20.
Greetings,
Pax
paxman said:
@gregnapola: Look into other posts - there IS a already a new row out for the KS20.
Greetings,
Pax
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Thank you paxman, I've already seen it, but they're only SFR or German...I'm waiting for an English one at least(10e or better 10f)...so the only thing I can do now is playing (crying ) with my 10c italian ROM...
Here is the dutch version of the *Fix* for the LG KS20.
I also changed the dummy.asx a little. Instead of calling dummy.mp3 times 40. I've now made that script to call dummy.mp3 one time and then it will call dummy.asx again.
This means the loop is continuous instead of having it end after 40 times (20 hrs).
Hope it's useful.
I want to thank lindih for the original fix.
This is a cool looking phone.
Who is the maker of this phone? Quanta, the maker of O2 Atom?
CWKJ said:
This is a cool looking phone.
Who is the maker of this phone? Quanta, the maker of O2 Atom?
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I don't know exactly where all the hardware pieces are from, but the phone is sold by LG and caries the LG logo. So I suspect it could be made by LG.
lindih said:
At least I made a small script to start the playback, then start TomTom and after closing TomTom stop the playback.
Maybe someone finds it useful.
Regards
Helmut
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Hi I have downloaded the file and see the folders and files inside can you please confirm the steps required to install.
I assumed copying the files into the relevent folders on the device is this correct?. and where do i put the "MortScript-4.1-PPC.cab" file and what do i do with it? do i just install it?
Cheers
Darren (NEWBE)
Hello body(s)
As a matter of fact, I faced to a monster problem(absolutely in my view) . Initially I'm a PHP/C++ developer but I'd like to make a Microsoft Wm6 program on phone calls topic.
I'm trying to get information about incoming calls like caller id/number,... . In addition, I hadn't enough experience and knowledge about C#.net. I've been tried about Microsoft.WindowsMobile.telephony and Microsoft.WindowsMobile.status references(classes) but I have not being successful yet.
If anyone knows around it and helps me Who makes me Happy
regards,