Thoughts on remotely logging in on TP2... - Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General

Hi Folks,
How realistic is this? Ie to remotely log in to a server and do something sensible like restart a web instance on IIS or whatever or am I being too ambitious? Some colleagues think I should stick with netbooks/laptops.
If realistic what would you recommend ie RDP, LogMeIn etc...?
Thanks,
Sam

SamJolly said:
Hi Folks,
How realistic is this? Ie to remotely log in to a server and do something sensible like restart a web instance on IIS or whatever or am I being too ambitious? Some colleagues think I should stick with netbooks/laptops.
If realistic what would you recommend ie RDP, LogMeIn etc...?
Thanks,
Sam
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=528880

Works and tastes great! I just posted the Logmein fix on my other thread. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=524676
It's free, it's effective even on EDGE and it just works with Mac, Windows, or Ubuntu.

SamJolly said:
Hi Folks,
How realistic is this? Ie to remotely log in to a server and do something sensible like restart a web instance on IIS or whatever or am I being too ambitious? Some colleagues think I should stick with netbooks/laptops.
If realistic what would you recommend ie RDP, LogMeIn etc...?
Thanks,
Sam
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I frequently use RDP on my TP2 to access servers (and LogMeIn for workstations). RDP is a joy to use with the high resolution on the TP2. When I first started using it, I tried impressing my girlfriend with its capabilities, but she didn't give a ****. So, it's nice to finally tell someone who does!

I always though RDP was a little anemic. Is it still that way? One of the best things about logmein was the ability to set it and forget it even with dynamic IP addressing. Also it's easy to install for people that need help on their desktops or servers. The other applications I have tried are PCAnywhere which is nice but a pain if dynamic IP is present, also RealVNC which worked great but had issues with performance as well as interoperability between OSs. Any others out there that might be nice? I need to connect with OSX, Windows XP/Vista, and also Ubuntu.

whtrbt7 said:
I always though RDP was a little anemic. Is it still that way? One of the best things about logmein was the ability to set it and forget it even with dynamic IP addressing. Also it's easy to install for people that need help on their desktops or servers. The other applications I have tried are PCAnywhere which is nice but a pain if dynamic IP is present, also RealVNC which worked great but had issues with performance as well as interoperability between OSs. Any others out there that might be nice? I need to connect with OSX, Windows XP/Vista, and also Ubuntu.
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Possibly getting a bit OT? but RDP is certainly excellent for any server administration task, and it works well on the TP2, which was the original question.

Folks,
Thanks for this. Very reassuring......
Brynweb, I loved your comment about your girl friend. I had the same issue with my wife...!! It is just a mobile.... ! No it is much more....
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I frequently use RDP on my TP2 to access servers (and LogMeIn for workstations). RDP is a joy to use with the high resolution on the TP2. When I first started using it, I tried impressing my girlfriend with its capabilities, but she didn't give a ****. So, it's nice to finally tell someone who does!
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Thanks,
Sam

Its friggen convenient when I'm out somewhere and realise OMG I forgot to tell Media Center to record XYZ. I can remote into home and schedule it.
Kinda impressive to see the Vista orb 5mm high!
I've been using RDP since my I got my Universal. Its great. Love it! Just make sure you have your stylus handy!

I use SSH to connect to linux and windows machines. In addition I tunnel VNC if I want to have the full desktop instead of a command line.

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ssh to hermes

hi is it possible ot ssh to the hermes, i do it with my ipot and its so much easier than finding the cable!
i have winscp what else do i need?
whats the user/pass to ssh also
thanks
Windows mobile doesn't have a ssh server built in. So, I'm guessing that if you could install one then you could ssh to it. I have never tried it. ssh seems to be more of a unix/linux thing, wich I am guessing the ipod os would be since it is an apple product.
Good luck. I hope this might give you something to search for.
Let us know how it goes.
bummer oh well thanks for the heads up
twiggy626 said:
hi is it possible ot ssh to the hermes, i do it with my ipot and its so much easier than finding the cable!
i have winscp what else do i need?
whats the user/pass to ssh also
thanks
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I don't use it either, but from a quick Google-Search, it seems there are quite a few alternatives that can be used. For instance, PuTTY has released an open source of PocketPuTTY. I have used PuTTY on a desktop, and if their PPC offering is as good, this must be a nice package. You can read more about it HERE.
Also, in February last year, ZaTelnet released a free SSH tunneling and port-forwarding program for Windows Mobile devices that supports the .NET Compact Framework 2.0. "ZaTunnel" boasts facilities for secure remote administration of Unix and other servers via Telnet, FTP, or VNC using mobile devices, according to the company. See more HERE
So it certainly looks like it CAN be done. This is what turned up on the first page of hits returned by Google. I'm quite sure there are MANY other applications available for SSH by now ... one just needs to do a quick search (and a lengthy read) to learn what options exist, and which one suits them the best.
Hope this helps,
-pvs
pvs said:
I don't use it either, but from a quick Google-Search, it seems there are quite a few alternatives that can be used.
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He is asking for a way to ssh to the Hermes,
the solutions you mention are to ssh from the phone...
He needs a ssh server to be run on the phone, the only thing i have found is the OpenSSH for Windows CE
Unfortunately for me it doesn't work... :-(
Mr_Gee said:
He is asking for a way to ssh to the Hermes,
the solutions you mention are to ssh from the phone...
He needs a ssh server to be run on the phone, the only thing i have found is the OpenSSH for Windows CE
Unfortunately for me it doesn't work... :-(
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Once you have a usable sshd server running in your Hermes, what then? AFAIK there is no CLI (i.e. "DOS prompt") available in Windows Mobile. Maybe there's a port of Cygwin to WM.

remote control with trinity

Hi
some one know one software for HTC P3600 with WM6.1 where I can control my laptop like a mouse or remote control like media centers?
if someone have some know tell me please...
kind regards.
i'm interested to know if there is 1 out there as well.
thank you.
filjoa said:
Hi
some one know one software for HTC P3600 with WM6.1 where I can control my laptop like a mouse or remote control like media centers?
if someone have some know tell me please...
kind regards.
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I use LogMeIn FREE version, and it works perfectly through WI-FI or GPRS. It works with Both Macs and PC's. I use it on Windows XP and Vista Machines and can tell you it works great! Small screen, but works in a pinch when you are away from home and need something important on your home computer.
It also allows remote control from PC's to PC's. As far as I can tell, it allows unlimited clients on the Free Version, but I may be wrong there. I have about 10 client computers in my account, and can access them any time I need.
You can get it free here:
http://www.logmein.com
There is also Remote Control Software from Microsoft that I've tried a few times, but not nearly as easy to set up in my oppinion.
And there is the VNC method, which works fairly well, but again, not nearly as easy to setup.
Good Luck!
PS: I have tried a LOT of Remote Control Software, and always come back to LogMeIn... I prefer the free version over most pay software.
Hi
but I only like control Desktop like a mouse by BT. I see come like that with sony ericsson...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PahTziS7Wc&feature=related
have some software for trinity?
kind regards
filjoa said:
Hi
but I only like control Desktop like a mouse by BT. I see come like that with sony ericsson...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PahTziS7Wc&feature=related
have some software for trinity?
kind regards
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The software you see in that video can be found here, I believe:
http://blueshareware.com/bluetooth_remote_control.asp
Although, I am not positive if the Java on the Trinity supports it, you will need to verify that.
I just found another designed for Windows Mobile:
http://www.jaylee.org/category/Bluetooth-Remote-Control.aspx
Good Luck!
if its specifically media center control from your WM you were after then Windows SideShow runs on your WM via bt to your desktop and allows you to control core media center functionality. cool stuff.
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...84-f862-4e02-a2b0-0003b4565f34&displaylang=en
dt_matthews said:
if its specifically media center control from your WM you were after then Windows SideShow runs on your WM via bt to your desktop and allows you to control core media center functionality. cool stuff.
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...84-f862-4e02-a2b0-0003b4565f34&displaylang=en
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Hey dt, this is a cool find. Thank you!
I'll be trying it out soon and report back.
Hi
is possible control my TV for example by IR? some one know one software for make this?
Kind Regards
filjoa said:
Hi
is possible control my TV for example by IR? some one know one software for make this?
Kind Regards
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I know that Novii Remote does this, but the IR in our Trinity's is not very powerful, so you have to be really, REALLY close to your TV for it to work. There might be other software, but I've tried this one.
http://www.novii.tv/pocketpc/
Edit: Ok, I just found some others, but I've never tried them...
http://pocketpccentral.net/software/remote1.htm
Good Luck!
Hi
sorry but what is IR port? I when I install novii I have on options:
COM1:S2410 IRDA
COM3:Infrared Port
what I select?

WLM (or other tool) to see webcam from a pc on P3300 possible ???

Hi,
The windows live messenger mobile doesn't support webcamviewing if i'm not mistaken ?
Isn't there a tool for ppc of which we can see a pc webcam on our P3300 ?
It's becauwe we're going on holiday for a longtime and our 2jr old baby stays with grandparants, we will have free wifi in our hotel, and it would be nice if we could see some live videos through a webcamtool via wifi.
I know the video is gonna be less smooth due to tio omap low processor (or when wifi reception is not optimal) but I would like to test it, I think this should be possible with a ppc. So no real video-conferencing cause it's not between 2 phones, but ppc & pc.
Using my htc's camera as webcam is not possible otherwise i guess?
Anyone has experience from receiving or sending as a webcam?
Thanks!
Cheers,
Innovator
Maybe you lookin' something like that?
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Good luck, Luke
I'm using WebcamXP and u can google it or go directly here ->hxxp://www.webcamxp.com/home.aspx I'm running 4 webcams at home and I can view them with my artemis installed with this program. Of course having a noip or free dyndns account will make life easier in tracking your dynamic ip.
Hope it helps.
thanks, i'm going to test the webcamera plus...
concerning the webcamXP Mobile v1.15, the link does not work
save as doesnt work also for webcamxp.cab
does anyone have or find this cab online somewhere else?
Thanks!!
WebcamXP
Since this is a freeware for private use, I am sure it is ok to post the cab here otherwise forgive me mods.

Using Opera with LogMeIn works! and you can zoom in with the Slider Bar

Click on the computer you want to access and the URL https://secure.logmein.com/connect_axtest.asp comes up, logme in will hang displaying a white screen instead of asking for the user name and password, click on the address and replace axtest for mozilla so the address will be https://secure.logmein.com/connect_mozilla.asp and hit enter, in the next screen LogmeIn may ask if you want to install the plugin, just click Skip, and you are done.
Logmein uses the mozilla Java not ActiveX.
This means you can use the slider to zoom in and get a better resolved image to read those hard to see small fonts. If you play around with the LogMeIn zoom and the slider bar together you should be able to get the resolution you want
but the TP2 comes with a fully featured version of remote desktop?
I've used both and RD is definately the better performance wise, just wondering why you'd choose logmein over it?
dazkeirle said:
but the TP2 comes with a fully featured version of remote desktop?
I've used both and RD is definately the better performance wise, just wondering why you'd choose logmein over it?
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Maybe it's my age, but one of the PCs I want to control has a 1920 x 1200 display and the text is really. really, small and difficult to read on the TP2. This option lets you zoom in. Also the font on RDP gets a bit screwed up betimes.
My version of the TP2 didn't have RDP, I got a CAB from this great forum to remedy that.
I agree with Tomo. RDP isn't always the best solution especially going cross-platform. I access several OSX, Ubuntu, and Windows interfaces using Logmein which also helps to solve the dynamic IP issues on some systems. While RDP is faster, it also leaves out a lot of control. The Opera browser workaround is ok but I still use the WM client since I get a better refresh and I can also adjust zoom properly with the WM Client.
whtrbt7 said:
I agree with Tomo. RDP isn't always the best solution especially going cross-platform. I access several OSX, Ubuntu, and Windows interfaces using Logmein which also helps to solve the dynamic IP issues on some systems. While RDP is faster, it also leaves out a lot of control. The Opera browser workaround is ok but I still use the WM client since I get a better refresh and I can also adjust zoom properly with the WM Client.
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How do you manage the zoom?
fair enough. I actually also use logmein so am not an rdp fanboy.
I actually like the way LMI handles multiple monitors etc.
Thanks!
Hey Tomo,
thanks, it works pretty fine. I searched all day long for a solution like this.
bye
Hey,
Nicely played Sir.
It seems to work well with Opera 9.7, if it's only Java maybe we can get it working on other devices as well, Symbian? or Opera mini or skyfire? hmh...
Thanks!
Tomo said:
Click on the computer you want to access and the URL https://secure.logmein.com/connect_axtest.asp comes up, logme in will hang displaying a white screen instead of asking for the user name and password, click on the address and replace axtest for mozilla so the address will be https://secure.logmein.com/connect_mozilla.asp and hit enter, in the next screen LogmeIn may ask if you want to install the plugin, just click Skip, and you are done.
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I did as you say above and get to the point where I enter my login info, but then it bounces me back to the blah, blah, blah message about "...A Windows Pocket PC 2003 or newer device...." and wants me to download the CAB file again.
I never see the "connect_axtest.asp". The URL I'm seeing / overwritting is https://secure.logmein.com/connect_ce_check.asp could that be my issue?
Please advise...
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I can't get it to work either. I get the same https://secure.logmein.com/connect_ce_check.asp page rather than the page referenced above. I changed the link above to /connect_mozilla.asp and I got further than before. I got to the password login for the computer and I was able to select remote control. But when I selected remote control, I was taken to the same page telling me to download the CAB file.
dazkeirle said:
but the TP2 comes with a fully featured version of remote desktop?
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Where is this? Mine does not have it
TP2 - Remote Desktop
PaulusUK said:
Where is this? Mine does not have it
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My Sprint TP2 has it at "Start -> All Programs -> Remote Desktop Mobile". Scroll down to the "R"s and you should see it.
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Do I have to use 9.7 or will 9.5 work. With 9.5 i've gotten all the way to the PC login but then I only get a white screen that says simply "ip mismatch". On the PC it shows that a connection has been made though.
jalanjkcarp said:
I can't get it to work either. I get the same https://secure.logmein.com/connect_ce_check.asp page rather than the page referenced above. I changed the link above to /connect_mozilla.asp and I got further than before. I got to the password login for the computer and I was able to select remote control. But when I selected remote control, I was taken to the same page telling me to download the CAB file.
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If I remember correctly, I used IE first (full IE not pocket) using this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=198923&stc=1&d=1245870498 to switch, it allows you to toggle between IE and PIE. Then downloaded the LogMeIn CAB. This is a one time only operation. Do this and then try the Opera fix. If this solves the problem I will amend the post to include it.
I am runing WM 6.5 with Opera 9.7.
No problem loging in with Java, it is a bit slower then ActiveX on IE.
I dont have 9.5 to try as it dose not have my local Lang support.
vHatch said:
Do I have to use 9.7 or will 9.5 work. With 9.5 i've gotten all the way to the PC login but then I only get a white screen that says simply "ip mismatch". On the PC it shows that a connection has been made though.
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I'm pretty much in the same situation. I'm running Opera 9.5 and I really don't want to install the 9.7 Beta.
Speaking of the Opera 9.7 Beta, how stable is it? The last update was over a month ago. Are they're any release date rumors??
Bump it up.
I think that is a problem with the PC, try connecting on a normal PC to LOGMEIN..
Anywho I am using this method for some 2-3 weeks now and it works 100% on a daily basis..
thx alot guyz!
garberfc said:
I'm pretty much in the same situation. I'm running Opera 9.5 and I really don't want to install the 9.7 Beta.
Speaking of the Opera 9.7 Beta, how stable is it? The last update was over a month ago. Are they're any release date rumors??
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I'm using the out of the box ROM/Opera that came with a HTC flavour TP2 (early issue) and it works for me
*cough* *cough*

****remote desktop mobile - tilt2 ****

I use remote desktop from my tilt2 to manage a data center.
I have several annoying issues. I would like to know if any of you have a solution for:
1) I need to ability to /admin or /console into the server.
2) ZOOM into the remote desktop session.
3) Switch to landscape and portrait while maintaining screen ratio.
A freakin Iphone can do this. It can't be that difficult to get this to work on windows mobile 6.5. Does anyone know how to modify the remote desktop client to achieve this? Or write a new remote desktop client?
Using another solution that requires an agent to be installed on the server is not an option. Also, using shadow is not an option.
Thank You!
ya go an pay for VNC
Though it isn't related to remote desktop mobile, if you can SSH in to your data center, you could always try pocket puTTY.
Like I said I don't want to install anything on my servers. I want to use the built in remote desktop solution on the windows server on port 3389.
This currently works I just can't zoom in from my tilt2, and can't connect to console session. Also no ability to save connections as "favorites". Very limited RDP client. Seems someone would have developed a custom RDP client for WINMO since RDP is the #1 method for maintaining a windows infrastructure.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=533664
Hope it helps,
mikroland said:
Like I said I don't want to install anything on my servers. I want to use the built in remote desktop solution on the windows server on port 3389.
This currently works I just can't zoom in from my tilt2, and can't connect to console session. Also no ability to save connections as "favorites". Very limited RDP client. Seems someone would have developed a custom RDP client for WINMO since RDP is the #1 method for maintaining a windows infrastructure.
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Hi Mikroland, you can use ZADESKTOP... I use it and for me it is the best !!!
http://www.zatelnet.com/zadesktop/main.php
mikroland said:
I use remote desktop from my tilt2 to manage a data center.
I have several annoying issues. I would like to know if any of you have a solution for:
1) I need to ability to /admin or /console into the server.
2) ZOOM into the remote desktop session.
3) Switch to landscape and portrait while maintaining screen ratio.
A freakin Iphone can do this. It can't be that difficult to get this to work on windows mobile 6.5. Does anyone know how to modify the remote desktop client to achieve this? Or write a new remote desktop client?
Using another solution that requires an agent to be installed on the server is not an option. Also, using shadow is not an option.
Thank You!
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Open remote desktop, make your connection, then on the server run tscon.exe 0. This will connect you to the console session.
I typically start my rdp sessions with the keyboard slid out, so that I can use it for logins and so I can put my device down while I am working and still see the session. So I have not flipped back and forth.
What would be even more useful is if I could get a bt mouse/keyboard to work with the Tilt2....still searching for that fix. RDP without a mouse is a bit of a bummer.
Leland.
lfondren said:
What would be even more useful is if I could get a bt mouse/keyboard to work with the Tilt2....still searching for that fix. RDP without a mouse is a bit of a bummer.
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You could try Bluemouse. It's a program which allows HID compliant bluetooth mice and keyboards to work on your device. But use the trial before you buy it, since I'm not sure it'll work due to the Widcomm bluetooth stack used by the TP2.
bump this, Is there a way to get the slider bar to zoom in and out of a RDP connection. Also, people are saying to pay for VNC, is VNC better does it support zooming with the zoom bar or does it support zooming in general. My desktops resolution is 1920x1080. I had a app on the iphone called jaadu and it worked perfectly with ultra vnc. It supported zooming and panning.
Remote Desktop
All we need to fix the Remote Desktop problem on the Tilt2 is for someone to modify the zoom slider so that it zooms not only on web or photos but on Remote Desktop as well. Should be simple!
I use RealVNC, which is great, but I saw another VNC program that allows drag scrolling (instead of scrollbars) to view the rest of the screen. I'll look up what program that was.
In the meantime, watch this YouTube video of Remote Desktop on the HD2. It looks very nice!! But I wonder if it is a feature of Windows 7 that has that interface, or a new RD app. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFiDZ_wBAtM
edit: That other app is called MochaVNC. Really cool features!
Very nice! Exactly what I am looking for except I don;t have an HD2. I have a Tilt2. There has to be a way to make that work with the Tilt2 using scroll bars instead of the "pinch to zoom"
Right, exactly what I love about it! I have a Touch Pro 2 (same as you, but on Verizon), and although we don't have multi-touch, the scrollbars would be great.
I was looking for this exact thing. Zooming with the zoom bar would be fantastic.
Also, does anyone know if I can connect using L2TP on the default client?
Has anybody tried the HD2 version of Remote Desktop to see how it behaves?
Update:
Here is a copy of Remote Desktop Mobile from LEO ROM 1.48.405.2 (WWE). I don't know if this is the one with 'pinch to zoom' or not.
It is in OEM format copied from \SYS\.
Its not working. I looking for the same solution with a small navigation window :/ and cant find any. Someone know from where we can get the same Remote Desktop Control with small navigation window ?
I use T2 Remote Touch which you can find thread here.
I have paid for the pro version, but you can also use a free version. Hope you find this helpful.

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