I have to say, I persevered with TouchFlo but after putting the superior MobileShell on it's clear HTC have a long way to go before getting it right.
The front screen is just such a waste of space, if you could at least configure it to display mails, calls and a couple of shortcuts I'd be happier. If I want to know the time, I look at my watch!
So if anyone is new to TouchFlo and new to MobileShell then give it a try just to compare, you don't have to stick with TouchFlo at the end of the day.
Added bonus is that most of the apps and extra skinning still work without the today plugin enabled so it still looks pretty.
i tried and took out the SPB MS 3.0... have iswith my contact mgr.. i am back to touch flow
i switched from touchflo to spb mobile shell and im loving it! so much better than touch flo for me, i can actually get to my messages etc with a few less clicks!
I really like Spb MobileShell. Nomore TouchFlo for me.
i went with spb as well but changed back to touch flo. Touch flo has much mroe information readily available without needing to launch any addition apps. it is very functional. spb isnt bad but lacks some of the data i am looking for. If i didn't have touch flo i would certainly consider spb as a primary interface. defiantly worth a try for those who have yet to give it a go.
I works pretty well on my TP2.
I do prefer Touch Flo 3D2 because i really don't use the functions on Mobile Shell.
I was usin an iphone for the past 2 years.. ( since it came out )
when i saw the Tp2 i was really impressed
and decided to change...
never used a WM device before.. never had a smartphone before
besides the iphone.. so im kinda new on all of this...
when i saw the starting menu.. i was really surprise in a bad way..
being used to have all the app right there ( iphone )
and now having the touch flow... it was pretty awkward
for me, same day of having the TP2 i was lookin for cool apps
and found SPB.. and from there.. i never went back to touchflow!
im so happy usin the SPB
For those of you who are trying the phone with both TouchFlo, and without it, can you tell us how much RAM is available after a soft reset in both cases?
Thanks!
i was not sure wich memory i was supose to
tell you so heres both
Storage Total 277.60mb Free 71.35
and Program Total 187.61mb
free 86.99mb
this is usin SPB shell and after doin softreset.
im guessin the one u want is the second one..
wich is the one that uses the RAM...
Wow! If there's only 87Mb left, out of 288Mb RAM total, something is taking up a whole lot of memory. Could you try it again, after enabling the TouchFlo Today plugin, and disabling SpB?
Of course, none of this is critical if in fact the phone can run a half dozen apps or so, along with your favorite GUI, whether it be TouchFlo, or SpB, or SBSH. My iPaq gets down to about 40Mb free, out of 128Mb, and it doesn't seem to hinder it in any way. I use the SBSH interfaces on it. It runs WinMo 6.0 Classic.
Have you noticed whether or not the phone is as prone to memory leaks as other WinMo devices are? It wouldn't be the phone's fault if it were, it's more about WinMo than the hardware methinks.
Thanks for the reply!
yups, memory leak seems prevalent here. i only have the default programs running and available RAM drops to about 80+MB.
freeway4you said:
i was not sure wich memory i was supose to
tell you so heres both
Storage Total 277.60mb Free 71.35
and Program Total 187.61mb
free 86.99mb
this is usin SPB shell and after doin softreset.
im guessin the one u want is the second one..
wich is the one that uses the RAM...
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Isn't that storage capacity?
Try to soft reset and click on the topright icon and see what percentage it says.
The main issue I had with MS3 was the fact it can't interact with the bluetooth, so I'm sticking with TF3D until SPB can get MS3 fully compatuible with the TP2 (would be unfair to expect them to have it compatible at launch since they haven't had the phone for long enough to iron out the bugs!).
can you please post some SPB Mobile Shell 3 screenshots?
thedudelasse said:
I works pretty well on my TP2.
I do prefer Touch Flo 3D2 because i really don't use the functions on Mobile Shell.
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Hey, your vid-review of the pro 2 is great !!!
I order one and I hope that I get my pro 2 this week I like the touchflow more than the win 6.5 home screen on my kaiser, must test the touchflo on the toch pro 2.
greetings from Berlin
vdKarel said:
Isn't that storage capacity?
Try to soft reset and click on the topright icon and see what percentage it says.
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yea thats what i did..
the second one i gave is the RAM not the Storage capacity.
hehe
hi
i HAVE O2 xda oRBIT, i mafacing a problem with it now, when i start the phone the windows is booting and the volume control come ups and then the phone hangs, i tried reseting and tried by removing batery nothing helped me.
can any one help me on this please.
thanks
baradhan said:
hi
i HAVE O2 xda oRBIT, i mafacing a problem with it now, when i start the phone the windows is booting and the volume control come ups and then the phone hangs, i tried reseting and tried by removing batery nothing helped me.
can any one help me on this please.
thanks
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Did this problem start right after you installed SPB Mobile Shell?
freeway4you said:
yea thats what i did..
the second one i gave is the RAM not the Storage capacity.
hehe
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Oh, lol,
Well, I got just TouchFlo3D and I have just a little more right after softreset.
Total: 188.21 MB
Free: 92.61
Switched to Mobile Shell as well because it offers much more individual editing of the screens, but I really miss the contacts and the SMS/MMS interface from TF3D.
Does anyone have a good recommendation?
Related
Greetings to all.
I've read alot about memory and memory leak and bloatware and well...am still kind of curious...okay, maybe a little lost.
I am running Black 2.0 with Radio 1.38.00.10
I am running, in addition to the apps included:
SBSH iLauncher
SBSH Pocket Weather
Palm Messaging
WM Extrablack dialer
PTTFix
Vibra-Switch
Batti
Mortgage CALC
ClearTemp
Legolas Date and Time
I love the ROM and love the system. It runs fast 90% of the time. I do have freezes 2 times a day. 1/2 the time I let it sit for a few minutes and it sorts itself out. The other half I have to do a soft reset. I also do a planned soft reset every morning. I downloaded Black 2.0 the very night it was released and had only one instance of it not waking up in the morning.
So, here is my question...
How much memory should be there for me to be comfortable? I see 28mb upon restart and it keeps around 20-23mb with no programs running. With Live Messenger running I had 14.1mb right now.
It doesn't run slow most of the time so I don't know if its sucked dry or not. So how much memory should be there for comfort-15mb? 20mb?24mb?-or is it situational dependent, or is it something I shouldn't worry about until it starts causing slow downs?
Thanks,
Jim
Situational
It's pretty situational on how much memory you usually have. With me I have programs running in the background so I am usually around 15-20 which is pretty good for me. If you start to see your memory drop when you don't have a lot of programs running then you should be concerned. Just look for anything unusual. Also if menus start taking a long time to open then be suspicious. Carefull of the SBSH programs. I've read a lot of comments about people having memory leaks with these programs. I'm not saying you will but if you see a slow down try stopping those programs first. I hope this helps.
same goes for SPB programs like Diary and Pocket Plus
joej said:
same goes for SPB programs like Diary and Pocket Plus
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So what is a good, small foot print launch application?
Try 'cLaunch'...
cLaunch - I've only been using it for about a week and I think it's great! It's a today plugin, so I dunno how much memory it uses.... It's got tabs for different types of programs; you can configure it to the n'th degree and I've only scratched the surface.....
Download it from this link and give it a go! There's various posts on xda-devs about cLaunch vs. lots of other launchers - just search for "cLaunch" and you'll get loads of hits - it's a good idea to look into a few alternatives before you make your mind up.
HTH,
Mark.
its not cLaunch..
its windows live messenger... there are reports on MSDN forums about Windows Live Mobile not releasing allocated memory... M$ are already looking into it
I'm going to follow what others have said - I think that Batti has some issues. I uninstalled and used Battery Status and feel that it's running better...
I ran great for the first week...now it seems to be a little slower with freezes 2x a day or so, really no big deal. I came from a Treo 650 that would freeze and reset everytime the phone rang while I was doing a scheduled mail fetch.
I'll look into battery status. I like the animated battery meter on top that moves when it's charging, but not at the cost of memory. I'm thinking of ditching Pocket Weather and going with just iLauncher and see how that goes.
Odd thing also...about once a day, I'll have like 5-6 phone apps open. With iLauncher I click on the corner to see what programs are running and 5-6 phone apps will be open and I can't close any of them...only happens every 2-3 days though. It happened with both Black v1.2 and 2.0.
Jim
X Button
Newb-Tech-Realtor said:
I ran great for the first week...now it seems to be a little slower with freezes 2x a day or so, really no big deal. I came from a Treo 650 that would freeze and reset everytime the phone rang while I was doing a scheduled mail fetch.
I'll look into battery status. I like the animated battery meter on top that moves when it's charging, but not at the cost of memory. I'm thinking of ditching Pocket Weather and going with just iLauncher and see how that goes.
Odd thing also...about once a day, I'll have like 5-6 phone apps open. With iLauncher I click on the corner to see what programs are running and 5-6 phone apps will be open and I can't close any of them...only happens every 2-3 days though. It happened with both Black v1.2 and 2.0.
Jim
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You need to check the setup of the X-button. Its located in >start>settings>system tab>task manager. Change it as you like then your programs will close.
i have 24mb on restart as i have some today items and startups. if i disable all of them i get 28mb on startup.
phone runs happy all day at 20mb.
if i run activesync all day via usb or push email runs to 18mb.
when i run live messenger with html emails from hotmail (not push as exchange 03) and have internet running ie using xda emails via live messenger and open IE with nothing else running after a fresh restart to 24mb at this moment exactly i have 7mb available.
i know when i finish this and close all i will recover back to about 12-15mb only.
the only way to go back to full will be to soft reset.
i find the worst memory hogs are al MS related are:
IE
HTML Emails
Windows live
Media player
these all suck big time my memory. only soft reset recovers them. most custom apps that have a built in exit system such as gs player resco apps and the like get much better memory recovery rather than using htc X or spb or other app closers.
i must say i am disappointed that ms release such memory hogg programs AND do not build in an adequate memory recovery function.
stukes said:
You need to check the setup of the X-button. Its located in >start>settings>system tab>task manager. Change it as you like then your programs will close.
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My x-button is set the way I want iy.
The point was FIVE or SIX phone apps open...."phone" listed 5-6 times in the running program list.
Jim
As memory leak provider I have windows live messenger (well known), Today Agenda and SPB weather (suspected also from others)
Today agenda http://tiews.info/index.php?show=software/todayagenda is a good freeware today plugin and they just fixed a memory leak
Good Changes
Good Things!
I did a hard reset and installed my apps, minus the SBSH.
I'm now running at a comfortable 21mb with all apps loaded and running in the background.
I'm using TodayAgenda, Battery Status and Weather to Go.
It's running quite well now.
Thanks for all the suggestions and info.
Jim
Newb-Tech-Realtor said:
... I am running Black 2.0 with Radio 1.38.00.10
I am running, in addition to the apps included:
SBSH iLauncher
SBSH Pocket Weather
Palm Messaging
WM Extrablack dialer
PTTFix
Vibra-Switch
Batti
Mortgage CALC
ClearTemp
Legolas Date and Time ... Jim
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Just wondering why the PTTFix. I am NOT putting down Sleuth's wonderful piece of work here, nor claiming it to be a memory hog or thief. It's indeed a wonderful piece of software, and direly needed on the stock WM5 that comes with the 8525. But I found that Black 2.0 gave me the functionality to program the PTT Key "out-of-the-box". I haven't needed to reinstall it after upgrading to Black 2.0.
-pvs
pvs said:
Just wondering why the PTTFix. I am NOT putting down Sleuth's wonderful piece of work here, nor claiming it to be a memory hog or thief. It's indeed a wonderful piece of software, and direly needed on the stock WM5 that comes with the 8525. But I found that Black 2.0 gave me the functionality to program the PTT Key "out-of-the-box". I haven't needed to reinstall it after upgrading to Black 2.0.
-pvs
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I wasn't aware I could map the PTT button without it, to be quite honest. I'm going to be upgrading to the Cingular Black 2.0 and I'll try it before installing the PTTfix...
I've done a few hard resets and I can get it all configured and all apps installed to my liking in less than 10 minutes and the PTTfix is part of my process for that. I'll try it though.
Thanks,
Jim
Newb-Tech-Realtor said:
My x-button is set the way I want iy.
The point was FIVE or SIX phone apps open...."phone" listed 5-6 times in the running program list.
Jim
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I have noticed the same thing on my LVSW Rom
Hi everybody
I have the main question - what are the main advantages of WM6.1 comparing to WM6.0.
Is WM6.1 worth enought for change if we says about so many mystakes in it?
Sorry fo my english.
Bigfoot
I'm interested too, and what about Battery usage & Speed (memory usage) ?
thanks
There´s quite a few threads with the same question and the answer is usually the same....Try the roms out.
To me is kind of rude when someone says"this one is better than that one" or stuff like that,because these rom cooks are using their time just for us and they don´t deserve those comparisons.....so like I said give different roms a shot and compare yourself.
bigfoot said:
Hi everybody
I have the main question - what are the main advantages of WM6.1 comparing to WM6.0.
Is WM6.1 worth enought for change if we says about so many mystakes in it?
Sorry fo my english.
Bigfoot
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WM 6.1. can be managed from System Center Mobile Device Center (see http://www.microsoft.com/systemcenter/mobile/default.mspx). Thta's a big advantage for the large compagnies
The bluetooth pairing doesn't need the password 0000 toggled in.
Memory & battery usage are still the same.
Going back to WM6
bigfoot said:
Hi everybody
I have the main question - what are the main advantages of WM6.1 comparing to WM6.0.
Is WM6.1 worth enought for change if we says about so many mystakes in it?
Sorry fo my english.
Bigfoot
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After many efforts to work with WM6.1 and with my apps I finally gave up: for the indevidual (and not companies) there still many bugs comparing to the stable WM6: annoying soft-reset, many apps are well integraded with WM6.1 etc.
Sorry, but I do not see how WM6.1 is better than WM6.
but are any of the roms real 6.1...or just lookie likey?????
i have been using PDAVIET 3.08.61.29WWE and it is excellent. I have many apps loaded and have not encountered a single problem. This rom is blazing fast and supports everything i have thrown at. 6.1 has been perfect for me i dont have any problems as i read. i literally install 1 to 2 apps per day and not a single issue. before this i was using FInixNOver WM6.1 and same thing not a single problem.
in fact, i was looking for WM6.1 because i wanted a new GUI ... but microsoft appears to be as same as always ... just sells us old **** that hadn't changed since Windows Mobile 2003 ... poorly unacceptable ... like microsoft ... like always ... i'm just fed up with theses poors OSs, i hope the iPhone2 will get out soon, i will sell my trinity as soon as i can and get this really GOOD device !
there will never be improvements on WM from microsoft for a long time, everyone will have to wait until at least 1 year before seeing the first devices coming with WM7, so i prefer going to a brand that do good human-machine interfaces, and the iPhone is doing really good !
why would we have to stay to WM ?! the iPhone do the Exchange Sync ... i just don't understand anymore microsoft ...
Question about pocket excell and word
I red somewhere that WM 6.1 pocket word and excell documents are in PC full format and for WM6.0 this format is only pocket. Is that true?
To Simkand
Hi
Iphone ? ha ha ha ha
It's so buggy and you need itunes to use it .......
If you want another interface, try ifonz or another one available here
I use now WM6.1 on 3 devices : a trinity, a blue angel and a smartphone : so far so good
And I am not a big fan of Bill !
iPhone
I bought two 8 Gig iPhones the first day they came out. One for myself, and one for my wife. The very next day, I returned mine (10% return charge).
My wife loves it because it's VERY simple to use, and you cannot mess things up easily. But for me, you have to HACK the PISS out of it to get it to do ANYTHING! It's network is dog slow, no MMS, no GPS, no SD slot, no programs to install, (untill I hacked it), it crashes more often than my WM6 devices, JOBS Locks it down every chance he gets, iTunes SUCKS and crashes Windows! I will admit, the screen and the multi-touch is impressive! It makes a GREAT iPod, but a usable communications tool, it's not.
Even with all the hacks on it, it still does not compare to WM6. WM has litterally thousands of software programs you can use freely for just about anything. I'm sure in time, the iPhone will get closer, but for now, not for me.
My biggest pet peeve was the fact that my appointments would not show up on the main screen when I first turn it on. That's something I insist on with my WM phone.
If you want a great TOY with a fantastic screen, then it's fine.
i think differences are only little.. part of it is the sms system. 6.1 transform sms system into some kind of a chat window. well this is quite good considering it is easier to read the history messages
simkard said:
in fact, i was looking for WM6.1 because i wanted a new GUI ...
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Why not trying the new SPB Mobile Shell 2.0?
I am very happy with this.
I apologize for getting side tracked.
iPhone does have a great GUI, it's just locked down making it hard to modify, at least for now.
You are right, WM 6.1 GUI is basically the same. Thanks Bill!
WM 6.1 adds the threaded SMS as mentioned before. It IS slower, but I prefer this layout.
The task manager now shows a LOT more information including running processes, memory consumption, & CPU consumption.
I'm not having any of the problems reported by other users (ie: program incompatibilities, crashes, bluetooth, activesync, etc...), so it's MUCH quicker running on my phone.
Bluetooth is Much more reliable, and simple to hook up (0000 is automatic).
Browsing in File Explorer is Much Quicker.
It might just be me, but my speaker phone seems a bit louder.
Managed Programs as mentioned by Stingray66.
Wireless Lan seems to have less trouble for me. Stays connected without having to set it up constantly.
Just my experiences.
6.1 is perfect for my Trinity, RAM memory avalaible about 25 Mb, A2DP is perfect and direct, without password, multitasking in best way.-
I don´t like the easy touch interface, but in fact, with SPB pocket plus interface is working perfect and with your own custom interface.-
I can see youtube and flash videos, no problem with video and audio files and 100% compatible with Corecodec media player.-
In my own opinion is the best OS for my trinity.-
Thanks Landy.-
cecrops said:
i have been using PDAVIET 3.08.61.29WWE and it is excellent. I have many apps loaded and have not encountered a single problem. This rom is blazing fast and supports everything i have thrown at. 6.1 has been perfect for me i dont have any problems as i read. i literally install 1 to 2 apps per day and not a single issue. before this i was using FInixNOver WM6.1 and same thing not a single problem.
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I agree and .NET 3.5 can be added too. With the tool of Modaco (.NET Configuration) it's possible to switch between .NET versions and even configure the version for each application.
simkard said:
in fact, i was looking for WM6.1 because i wanted a new GUI ... but microsoft appears to be as same as always ... just sells us old **** that hadn't changed since Windows Mobile 2003 ... poorly unacceptable ... like microsoft ... like always ... i'm just fed up with theses poors OSs, i hope the iPhone2 will get out soon, i will sell my trinity as soon as i can and get this really GOOD device !
there will never be improvements on WM from microsoft for a long time, everyone will have to wait until at least 1 year before seeing the first devices coming with WM7, so i prefer going to a brand that do good human-machine interfaces, and the iPhone is doing really good !
why would we have to stay to WM ?! the iPhone do the Exchange Sync ... i just don't understand anymore microsoft ...
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Microsoft Mobile NOOB, too much alcohol or just talking bull****?
Ignore this guy ....
bigfoot said:
I red somewhere that WM 6.1 pocket word and excell documents are in PC full format and for WM6.0 this format is only pocket. Is that true?
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No, WM6 can have integrated Office 6.1 too.
mbon said:
i think differences are only little.. part of it is the sms system. 6.1 transform sms system into some kind of a chat window. well this is quite good considering it is easier to read the history messages
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Yep, threaded SMS ... another advantage of WM 6.1
Hi.
What are you all talking about. There is no official WM6.1 for Trinity, all this ROM - is home made. This is just vinaigrette, mess of different ROM, as well as WM6.
FOR WHO WANTS ORIGINAL TOUCHFLO 2D MANILA ON ARTEMIS:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=425694
IT WORKS REALLY FINE AND SMOOTH ON
I HAVE AN ARTEMIS ANJA AND MOSSI ROM 6.1
i second this on yues extra-clean!
greetz
p.s. one thing i really dont fancy about those manila guys is their not displaying the version details in the cab name, this way you find various .cab version posted everywhere and never know which one it is!
this 1 is much better thn all those throttle launcher themes
... just one thing i am missing:
how to change the buttons of the bottom row- order and showing buttons-- i just dont need all of them!
greetz
p.s.. the manila dialer is cooked into yue_v9.1 extraclean !!!!
thormdac edit the file HTCHomeSettings.xml search for tabs and disable what you wont!i gonna try to make a lite version... the last cab install around 330 files to windows directory!!! insane
I haven't tried that combined package yet, but everything installed from single packages works fine on Tom's oops.
Are you going to release this rom in a single package?
zoko said:
thormdac edit the file HTCHomeSettings.xml search for tabs and disable what you wont!i gonna try to make a lite version... the last cab install around 330 files to windows directory!!! insane
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will try that!
would be nice if you could make a light version
thanx
Works but not so impressed
Tested it on YuE's clean rom, it works but that's all.
Don't find it so spectacular cause I work with SPB Mobile Shell 2.0 with Diamondskin 2.1
This Manilla thing it's a combination of Spb Mobile Shell Diamond Theme & Throttlelauncher.
BUT it would be nice to implement in any new roms, don't like the HTC Diamond home plugin in the middle of the screen... And they cannot implement the Mobile Shell 2.0 with Diamond theme as homescreen cause it's not freeware...
Only the clock is not so nice on the startup screen, but this can maybe be changed.
just installed it on my artemis touch 4.02 lite no cube rom, it took about ten minutes to install, then when i restarted it about 7 minutes for the pda to load back up, and everything was so sluggish ! I then tried to uninstall it and that took about 15 mins then gave up and said it could'nt uninstall it properly.
Thanks god i have a sprite backup to restore.
It may have been my fault though, i selected install to storage card ? or maybe it just installs to windows anyway.
oh well...
you must install to the device, even though it lets you choose.
oh well i cant even restore, so i have to reflash again, what a pain
i tend to agree,
even on my rocket fast yue extraclean, i feel extremely slowed down (in comparison to without it) in trade for which gain?- optics? hope we can lighten this baby down
greetz
corky said:
just installed it on my artemis touch 4.02 lite no cube rom, it took about ten minutes to install, then when i restarted it about 7 minutes for the pda to load back up, and everything was so sluggish ! I then tried to uninstall it and that took about 15 mins then gave up and said it could'nt uninstall it properly.
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The same for me (with an extralight rom and installing Manila 2d in device).
It works but.......very slowwww.
I unistalled it (correctly) but starting time after soft reset was too long: only solution a hard reset.
What about RAM consuption... What can you tell me about it?
I'm also uninstalling it, Spb Mobile Shell with Diamondskin 2.1 is much nicer to work with...
I haven't experienced any slow down of my P3300 with this either...
The Manilla 2D is still in beta, maybe some programmers can speed it up so that rom-builders can cook it in their roms.
HI,
I don't know why your manila 2d is slow , I only can suppose that must install a wm 6.1 diamond rom based , for example i get the anja and mossi on it , or must look for some rom similar
My manila 2d it is fast and works really well, anyway before installing it I uninstall all gui stuff like SPB shell
I installed manila on memory device and not on sd card
I have 14 MB ram free once manila is working , and is working well
i second to the past users' comments
i have tom's oops black 1.0 installed, and i've installed manilla on my device.
everyone should agree that touchFLO 3D aka manilla wasnt actually designed for artemis.. bt it was targeted for diamond which has higher ROM, higher RAM and a higher processors with a graphics device to assist its processes. it would be slow on any device with 128MB ROM and 64MB RAM and a 200MHz processor.
however, its not that slow.. i have 15MB free after Manilla is up and running after power-on.. i can use other applications fine.. bt surely the startup is slow.. takes a bit of patience heheh..
anyway its nice work from another xda developer.. i greatly appreciate ur work...
i've been using manilla on my artemis since it was launched for artemis.. im happy abt it..
hope that somebody can make it less bloating, more efficient, faster and more usable with better customizations..
xda developers rules!
thormdac said:
i tend to agree,
even on my rocket fast yue extraclean, i feel extremely slowed down (in comparison to without it) in trade for which gain?- optics? hope we can lighten this baby down
greetz
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how about reflashing but this time with 8mb pagepool ?
From where can I download Touch flo Manilla 2D or 3D even for my artemis (arte110)?
Anyone disabled TF3D and kept the original WM home screen interface? I personally disabled it and kept the original interface even though I don't like how the WM SMS look. I disabled it because I don't like the default TF3D colors and I tried changing it black, but it's a no go. I don't know why! I did change the background and the drop menu all black which looks pretty neat since anything black looks good. What I really want is the WM6.5 Zune interface so I can't wait for WM6.5 official release!!!
Let us know what you have.
TF3D does not appeal to me!
TF3D is pretty, so people "oooo" and "aaah" over the phone and buy it.
However, I still think that TF3D is a bunch of useless kitsch that gets in the way of actually using the phone effectively. After a few hours of it interfering with what I want to do, I turned it off. (At least this time it took a few hours and not a few minutes.)
This is especially true of the messaging (it's just in the way), and the photo album. (who wants to see tiny, slanted, distorted versions of the pictures?) It's been a while, so I cannot remember the other specific things that annoyed me.
TF3D was the first thing I disabled on the device... I don't like that I cannot choose my own programs and way of working.
I use Wisbar Advance and Wisbar Desktop
on my personal Touch HD I much prefered the TouchFLo interface to the standard windows one - saying that, that was running a Dutty ROM
However on my work TP2 - I have it disabled as it gets in the way of my business apps - i.e. MS Communicator etc.
TF3D has bad things an good things.
The biggest failure and that's why TF3D is just crap is because it's not intuitive and easy to use. Way to many steps to get things done, pretty useless taskbar (exepts for the killing programs part). You can do to much information on one screen at the same time and too little. It's nice that they include things like a calendar, but it's pretty useless and in many ways TF3D makes the use of third party software actually harder.
The very good things about touchflo 3d is the push pages, the scheduels, and the best thing is the fueture to see all of your conversation with one contact. I really love it. Next to that it's snappy and pretty.
Well I treid SPB mobile shell 3, but it just doesn't do it. Also many features, but the fact is: when I use my phone it's to get something done pretty quickly. I just want to be able that I have a good view of all the info I need (messages, appointments) in the least ammount of time and to be able to do something in little time. The regular wm is just very easy. Start - settings/programs - choose- done.
Seeing my messages when there is a new one I get a popup and pres view and I there. I do not have to click the task baar. Get a new screen there push on the button, then being transported to the touchflo tab and then have to choose the message.
THats 2 clicks vs 4/5 clicks.
I kept the default TF3d for now, as soon as the official WM 6.5 ROM will be available, I'll switch to the Titanium UI.
Bright.Light said:
TF3D was the first thing I disabled on the device... I don't like that I cannot choose my own programs and way of working.
I use Wisbar Advance and Wisbar Desktop
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I will give Wisbar Advance a try. Thanks!
I prefer Manilla2D over TF3D.
how
how do you disable tf3d??
cavenger said:
how do you disable tf3d??
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go to Settings>Personal>Today>, Items Tab & untick the TF3D then click OK
ty!! Need to find something to replace it now.
henh said:
go to Settings>Personal>Today>, Items Tab & untick the TF3D then click OK
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mschaffer said:
TF3D is pretty, so people "oooo" and "aaah" over the phone and buy it.
However, I still think that TF3D is a bunch of useless kitsch that gets in the way of actually using the phone effectively. After a few hours of it interfering with what I want to do, I turned it off. (At least this time it took a few hours and not a few minutes.)
This is especially true of the messaging (it's just in the way), and the photo album. (who wants to see tiny, slanted, distorted versions of the pictures?) It's been a while, so I cannot remember the other specific things that annoyed me.
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I totally agree!
SPB Mobile Shell 3.0. I like having one-touch access to everything I need (email, sms, weather, contacts, favorites, apps, etc...) right on the front page.
FEWidgets Ultimate 1.0b7
cavenger said:
ty!! Need to find something to replace it now.
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An interesting 'Widget' based replacement for TF3D I came on when I was looking around on XDA.
"FEWidgets Ultimate" by nicodega.
It replaces TF3D completely as a 'Today' plugin.
Basically one just has to install the CAB.
(Note: it will not show up under All Programs, but as a Today plugin only)
> Go into Settings> Today>
> Remove check next TF3D
> Enable Check next to FEWidgets Ultimate
Two versions- Large widgets and Small Widgets for anyone who needs a whole bunch of widgets.
I did try it out on my TMO TP2 and both versions basically work when I tested each separately.
Though I haven't tried fine-tuning each widget for my TP2 yet.
Enjoy.
i kept my TP1 and gave the TP2 to Dad whose TmoWing crapped out. Had to disable TF3D for him today. The last straw was contacts/call history will not allow you to dial out, it's link to the phone dialer was broken or something. I don't know if this is a result of a tweak I did or if the Tmo's TF3D version has a bug. After disabling TF3D, you can press the contacts again to call out. For future reference, anyone know the cause/solution?
Like above guy said, now I need a replacement for tf3d. The last version of BatteryStatus that I used was 1.04build266 from this time last year, which has since been replaced by HomeScreenPlusPlus or something like that. Anyone know of a stable version for the TP2? Stable enough for Dad?
Today Plugins
I kept the default TF3D, but with HDWall, because I love the eye-candy of the interface and I find it very intuitive to use. I have also tried other today plugins, such as PointUI Home 2, FEWidgetsUltimate and iPhonetoday, but none of them felt as smooth and easy to use as TF3D for me. Out of the other interfaces I tried I find FEWidgetsUltimate to be the best.
LINK - iPhoneToday
LINK - FEWidgetsUltimate
LINK - HDWall
LINK - PointUI
EDIT: On my previous device I tried SPB Mobile Shell - LINK
I also got rid of TF3D. IMHO that is eye candy for people who don't know how to use a computer - and that is still a large number of people out there using phones. W/o TF3D I get things quicker done and have more flexibility to set up the phone the way I use it best.
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I kept the default TF3D, but with HDWall, because I love the eye-candy of the interface and I find it very intuitive to use. I have also tried other today plugins, such as PointUI Home 2, FEWidgetsUltimate and iPhonetoday, but none of them felt as smooth and easy to use as TF3D for me. Out of the other interfaces I tried I find FEWidgetsUltimate to be the best.
LINK - iPhoneToday
LINK - FEWidgetsUltimate
LINK - HDWall
LINK - PointUI
EDIT: On my previous device I tried SPB Mobile Shell - LINK
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Thanks for the link! HDWall and Mobileshell looks nice.
It is VERY usefull for me! I can't use without! I'm bored by WinMo interface.
I too found TF obtrusive and unintuitive so switched it off. I used to use SPB Mobile Shell on the Kaiser and liked it, but I'm a bit fed up of the way it doesn't integrate with Informant and Flexmail, so I'm back to the WM interface and don't miss all the bloat.
Hi all, its been a while since I posted but I am the former user of the 8125,8525, and 8925 (tilt) and haven't used a pocket pc phone since then. I had my stints with the Fuze & Touch HD but thats another story. Anyways Ive been using the iPhone 3g/3gs for the last year and I recently sold it to purchase the AT&T Tilt 2. I must say although the phone is very good looking and this is the best qwerty I have ever used, the phone lags and it is kinda slow especially comparing phones like the iPhone or BBerry Bold 2. What are my options in terms of Navigating the GUI without TF3D? I remember when I used to own my pocketpc's I used a program called "HTC Home" which was simple,fast, and efficient. Does that program still work on the Rhodium? Do I have any options of using something similar to the TF3d but faster? Or will changing my ROM make the difference up in speed? Let me know what you all think and thanks in advance. Also What does "Manilla" mean?
Dude there are so many ways to have a decent UI without manila go through a lot of the rom threads and read about each one, Most have light versions and a titanium version that eliminate tf3d completely. MANILA= TF3D they are one and the same as I see it, some people might get more technical with you but its like a tilt 2 and a touch pro 2 different names for basically the same thing, minus a few hardware differences when talking devices. Also Give SPB Mobile Shell a try, you can download a trial and if yuo like it can either purchase it or do one of those promotions and get it cheap o pm me and I'll let you know where to find it I myself love tf3d and cant wait till it becomes fully modifyable with the ability to make my own tabs for whatever we see fit, It will happen just gonna take a while and have some genius' coding things so quick links can be installed in the script with copy and paste so its easy for everyone to do. I think there may be a few other 3rd party UIs out there too, so just play around and see what fits you. And if you cant fully uninstall something its not like a hard reset cant be done! Always backup what you dont want to lose.
See here for HTC Home for WVGA/VGA devices.
Buy an HD2
Windows default "titanium" is also very customizable and much less RAM eating than TF3D.
I´ll stay with Manila 2.1 working very smooth for me
I really lost interest in this phone the more I used it - I found tf3d to be too slow... Rather than flash ROMS, I gave SPB Mobile Shell a try. It's awesome! I removed all items from the today screen and just run the shell.
Memory usage is different as well. Before I had to keep it under 50% to get the phone to run. With Mobile Shell I just keep opening programs up to 80% and the interface doesn't lag.
Give it a try...
Want a familiar and friendly (as well as FAAST) interface?
Google iPhoneToday. It's mimics the iPhone interface and is very easy to setup shortcuts and icons.
Simply go t your SETTINGS>TODAY button and disable TF3D and ENABLE iPhoneToday.
I love this interface much better as it's quick and to the point. Also less memory uses than TF3D