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Ok guys i did a little research and At&t buying T-Mobile is actually a good thing heirs my reasons why.
1.Larger variety of android phones or any ohone for that matter.
2.Yes we get to keep unlimited data plan because they have to take some of T-Mobiles customs to keep customers happy.
3.Almost every one you call will be mobile to mobile so less minutes you have to worry about.
4.Largest 4g network More Towers so better signal.
well those are my reason so hopefully it keeps you guys from going to Verizon or sprint -_-
youngmane said:
Ok guys i did a little research and At&t buying T-Mobile is actually a good thing heirs my reasons why.
1.Larger variety of android phones or any ohone for that matter.
2.Yes we get to keep unlimited data plan because they have to take some of T-Mobiles customs to keep customers happy.
3.Almost every one you call will be mobile to mobile so less minutes you have to worry about.
4.Largest 4g network More Towers so better signal.
well those are my reason so hopefully it keeps you guys from going to Verizon or sprint -_-
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Thats fine and dandy. But what happens when ATT decides to make changes. Add hidden fees, completely eliminate the unlimited data? Sure they will keep some of the features that Tmobile has, but nothing stays the same.
if they do keep the unlimited data, it will be a hell of a lot higher of a price per month then what we pay now.
This merger is bad news and is very very bad.
atquick said:
Thats fine and dandy. But what happens when ATT decides to make changes. Add hidden fees, completely eliminate the unlimited data? Sure they will keep some of the features that Tmobile has, but nothing stays the same.
if they do keep the unlimited data, it will be a hell of a lot higher of a price per month then what we pay now.
This merger is bad news and is very very bad.
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They better honor our current bill or I will cancel my contract because the reason I went to t-mobile is to leave at&t
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My No contract Even More+ plan will be gone, and I'll have to pay almost double what I do now just to keep my service. They're going to honor current contracts but when they end its GG.
AT&T is going to ruin what made T-Mobile good.
I wouldn't have as much issue with AT&T if they weren't so ridiculous and expensive. They have data caps and their network is SO SLOW with all the iPhone users. Its absolutely ridiculous. I don't wanna be gimped from an awesome carrier just because AT&T can't build their own towers out.
It sucks, for sure.. att customers are the only ones to benefit since they stole our 4G. The plus side is that we won't see any changes for atleast a year..
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The buyout is not a good thing at all. Less competition is never good. T-Mobile was Google's go-to network. The innovate Android phones always went to T-Mobile first.
One of the worst things about this whole deal is that T-Mobile phones will have to be replaced eventually. AT&T will be restructuring the whole network to use it's own 3G/4G frequencies, which T-Mobile phones aren't capable of using. So you'd be stuck on edge. It's supposed to take several years before the switch over is complete, so hopefully by then my G2 will be long outdated, since I just bought it a couple months ago at full price because I'm on a no-contract plan.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110321/ap_on_hi_te/us_at_t_t_mobile_usa_phones
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Ok guys i did a little research and At&t buying T-Mobile is actually a good thing heirs my reasons why.
1.Larger variety of android phones or any ohone for that matter.
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How you figure? A phone is a phone, and nobody has EVER (except CDMA) forced you to buy your phone from your carrier.
2.Yes we get to keep unlimited data plan because they have to take some of T-Mobiles customs to keep customers happy.
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Ah, NO. The reason is that since tmobile will no longer exist, they won't lose any customers by raising prices since there is no longer any competition to run to. No, CDMA carriers are not competition.
3.Almost every one you call will be mobile to mobile so less minutes you have to worry about.
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How does that affect anything? You're still using your phone, there's no competition, so they can charge you whatever they want.
4.Largest 4g network More Towers so better signal.
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That depends on what they intend to do with things. Maybe they'll transfer all of tmobile's customers over to att towers and use tmobile towers to implement LTE. If that happens, you aren't going to have any better coverage.
If history has taught us a lesson... Look at the case of Cingular being bought up by AT&T. Cingular was all about a huge variety of phones, great plans, and awesome reps (in store and on the support line) that made them great. When AT&T had swallowed them up, the integration took about 1-2 years where they were called "Cingular by AT&T" while keeping some of their nuances and then post integration they became AT&T with all the bad that AT&T brings.
To the original poster saying that there could be more Android devices from this deal... There is also no guarantee to that, because if he has forgotten... AT&T was the LAST provider to adopt Android phones and only did so because their iPhone honeymoon exclusive was over. Even then, if they do offer more Android devices... They could lock them down forcing users to side-load apps as see with Android phones like the Xperia X10 or Samsung Captivate. Also, they could end up capping future 4G devices as seen with the HTC Inspire.
As another poster in this thread said... LESS competition is BAD for the consumer and MORE competition is BETTER for the consumer.
youngmane said:
Ok guys i did a little research and At&t buying T-Mobile is actually a good thing heirs my reasons why.
1.Larger variety of android phones or any ohone for that matter.
2.Yes we get to keep unlimited data plan because they have to take some of T-Mobiles customs to keep customers happy.
3.Almost every one you call will be mobile to mobile so less minutes you have to worry about.
4.Largest 4g network More Towers so better signal.
well those are my reason so hopefully it keeps you guys from going to Verizon or sprint -_-
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it's truly saddening to me that the majority of people here are more concerned with cell towers and glorified walkie talkies than the underlying economic and (yes, I'm going there) societal impact of an acquisition of this magnitude.
dhilberg said:
The buyout is not a good thing at all. Less competition is never good. T-Mobile was Google's go-to network. The innovate Android phones always went to T-Mobile first.
One of the worst things about this whole deal is that T-Mobile phones will have to be replaced eventually. AT&T will be restructuring the whole network to use it's own 3G/4G frequencies, which T-Mobile phones aren't capable of using. So you'd be stuck on edge. It's supposed to take several years before the switch over is complete, so hopefully by then my G2 will be long outdated, since I just bought it a couple months ago at full price because I'm on a no-contract plan.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110321/ap_on_hi_te/us_at_t_t_mobile_usa_phones
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I went into my local T-Mobile store and asked several questions about our phones working on At&t network and was told that At&t and T-Mobile are in the works of offering a universal sim card that will allow our phones (At&t/T-Mobile) to work on each others network. We'll see!
I'm a current AT&T customer and I can't say I disagree with much of the discussion here.
It's impossible to say how things will change a few years down the road, but one thing is definitely true:
Less Competition is NEVER good for the consumer. In the end we (ATT and T-Mobile customers) WILL pay more for service.
Let's see if the feds do their job and shoot down this acquisition...
1.Immediaely, yes. Long run, no.
2.Why do they have to make them happy? What alternative will we have? Verizon will be the only other somewhat decent option, and their incredibly overpriced and don't use GSM so we'd have to buy a new phone.
3. True, our 'family' will be growing, causing us to possibly use less minutes.... I don't use the amount given in the smallest family plan though.
4. Actual 4g network rather than fake 4g network is good, more towers are good, etc.... good point.
Things not concidered:
1. monopoly on GSM (monopolies are generally not good)
2. prices will eventually go up. you'll be grandfathered but things change, especially if you have no real competition.
3. at&t diferentiates tethering (this is where you will probably lose your grandfathered unlimited data).
4. economy hinderance: loss of jobs, no longer an 'affordable' choice for cell service, less providers means less money for phone anufactorers (minimal impact there for people).
5. Good bye, customer service....
I don't see how they are going to raise the prices of unlimited plan if you already have one...hence everyone that had an unlimited data plan with att before they changed pricing was grandfathered with no price change. I'm not happy about att buying tmo but the one thing I'm sure of is if you already have the plan they won't change it. When you want to change your cell plan is when you will lose it
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Our contracts with this whole thing
I could be wrong, and I only skim the contracts, but haven't t-mobile customers signed contracts to be on T-mobile? If ATT absorbs their customer base and T-mobile no longer exists, do our contracts still remain?
KingAndroid said:
I could be wrong, and I only skim the contracts, but haven't t-mobile customers signed contracts to be on T-mobile? If ATT absorbs their customer base and T-mobile no longer exists, do our contracts still remain?
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the T-Mobile website merger Q&A states that they will keep everyone's contracted price. But I'm sure as soon as your contract ends, you're gonna be forced.
And I'm sure that once they required you to switch to an AT&T phone from a T-mobile phone because of the frequency switch, they'll make you end your contract and sign a new AT&T one anyways, so there goes that.
Years ago I worked for Verizon. On most days I would come across people that had been merged into Verizon from some other company. I remember one case where a customer had an unlimited voice plan for something like $30 a month. Now this was back before any one had an unlimited voice plan. When I looked into it the customer had been merged in about 2 or more years before and never been on a contract. Now from what I remember a company can not change your plan unless you consent. About the only way they can get you is if you do something like sign a new contract. Now they will try to trick you into changing from the grandfathered plan. So they can not kill or change our unlimited data plans.
I was with Cingular when they were bought out. I kept my Cingular contract right up until they came out with the Iphone and i was out of contract the whole time.
Now it will be interesting to see what becomes of Tmobile's prepay contract service.
AT&T buying out T-Mobile is BAD. Remember, it hasn't happened yet, and there's no way the DOJ will approve it anyway.
Hey all,
First off, I love my Epic, and I will be sad to have to switch to a new carrier, but Sprint is too darn expensive, and Cincinnati Bell is offering cellphones (and a bunch of internet and landlines for our company) plus massive minutes and data for a tiny fraction of what only a few of us would pay for our personal Sprint bills... so naturally, we are moving.
Did I mention we can pick ANY phone from Cincinnati Bell's current or upcoming line-up to receive..... for FREE?
The two 4g phones they have right now are the HTC Panache and the Huawei Ascend X .
They also have a Samsung Vibrant available, which I understand is a Galaxy S phone nearly identicle to our Epic, but without the 4g or the keyboard.
Currently, I am leaning towards the HTC, from all the nice things I heard about the company's handsets in general, and moreso because I have heard zip about the Huawei and it seems a bit chinsey. ( I should add here that he gave us about 4 of the Huaweis to play around with for a bit to test out coverage and data speeds. ) The Huawei is a bit awkward to hold, as it is sharp and thin, whereas I am used to the brick of the Epic in my pocket.
What I ask of all of you is this: Do you have any suggestions on which handset I should grab from these guys? (Remember: It's being given to us, FREE) If so, why? In general, I am trying to either get as close to my Epic experience as possible, or to exceed it. I will miss the keyboard, but I am OK with loosing it.
For the record, I am rooted on my epic with CWM3 and running the latest Frozen Syndicate Mod (and LOVING it ), so ease of rooting, stability and availabilities of quality mods are certainly factors. ... I've just never heard ANYTHING about Huawei and there seems to be a bunch of different kind of info out there for the Panache (It's also call the Glacier and mytouch... I think?)
There you have it! Any suggestions would be killer.
NOTE: I do have access to the 4g Huawei right now, if anyone would like pictures or reviews of it, impressions etc, and I also have the chance soon to get my hands on literally any of the other handsets in their inventory to test out (the Panache, it seems is coming out on Friday). Hopefully I will be able to get a hand on that a bit early, and if so, I'll def. post some info. If anyone has any ideas or suggestions, let me know, and also if anyone wants me to grab a given phone for a test run to review on here, I'm more than happy to try!
Thanks!
tl;dr: Moving from sprint to cincinnati bell, I currently have a epic, whats the best phone I can get from them?
like keyboards? where are those phones. that htc look like a mytouch slide. does it have one?
Sprint too expensive sorry but your nuts. Ever heard the statement you get what you pay for. If you make the switch I GUARANTEE YOU WILL BE BACK. Why would you even consider a local company next to a national company just sounds ridiculous. They have to throw all those extra incentives at you because their service blows.
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Sprint too expensive sorry but your nuts. Ever heard the statement you get what you pay for. If you make the switch I GUARANTEE YOU WILL BE BACK. Why would you even consider a local company next to a national company just sounds ridiculous. They have to throw all those extra incentives at you because their service blows.
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I would appreciate not being called nuts, first off.
Second: Between myself, my fiance and my mother, we have a 1500 minute shared plan + "unlimited" data and the extra 9.99 / month for my epic 4g data. We average between 325 and 400 per month.
The plan they are offering us gives us 5 4g phones, unlimited data and 3000 minutes, all for under 300 dollars.
In terms of service, I've never been a huge fan of sprint, I rarely have anything more than 2 bars of 3g coverage, and in many places less. Their 4g network in this area is abysmal, also.
In any case, I was asking about which of those phones people thought to be equivalent or superior to my current phone, not about whether I should switch. I have been continually disappointed with sprint service for years, this is just the final nail in the coffin.
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Sprint too expensive sorry but your nuts. Ever heard the statement you get what you pay for. If you make the switch I GUARANTEE YOU WILL BE BACK. Why would you even consider a local company next to a national company just sounds ridiculous. They have to throw all those extra incentives at you because their service blows.
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Also, in taking the loaner phones around they gave us, comparing relative signal strength and speed as I drive around town, the CinBell phone is consistently the dominate force in terms of signal strength, quality and data speed.
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like keyboards? where are those phones. that htc look like a mytouch slide. does it have one?
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Nah, none of them have the keyboards unfortunately, thats why I'm trying to find the best phone to get given their lineup. Would you go for the HTC over the Huawei?
Get the vibrant. Its a galaxy s and it like the epic with no keyboard. And the vibrant community has a lot of roms including a stable cm7 and miui gingerbread
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The HTC page you linked states it's already on Gingerbread, the other is still Froyo. You should do your research on how often/if that phone gets upgrades. Basically find out which phone is closest to end-of-life.
To the guy who called him nuts for dropping a national carrier for a local: To each their own man. The OP found something that works for his needs. What's the issue? Roaming charges? It's an assumed cost of doing business when jumping to a local carrier.
blueoxide said:
Hey all,
First off, I love my Epic, and I will be sad to have to switch to a new carrier, but Sprint is too darn expensive, and Cincinnati Bell is offering cellphones (and a bunch of internet and landlines for our company) plus massive minutes and data for a tiny fraction of what only a few of us would pay for our personal Sprint bills... so naturally, we are moving.
Did I mention we can pick ANY phone from Cincinnati Bell's current or upcoming line-up to receive..... for FREE?
The two 4g phones they have right now are the HTC Panache and the Huawei Ascend X .
They also have a Samsung Vibrant available, which I understand is a Galaxy S phone nearly identicle to our Epic, but without the 4g or the keyboard.
Currently, I am leaning towards the HTC, from all the nice things I heard about the company's handsets in general, and moreso because I have heard zip about the Huawei and it seems a bit chinsey. ( I should add here that he gave us about 4 of the Huaweis to play around with for a bit to test out coverage and data speeds. ) The Huawei is a bit awkward to hold, as it is sharp and thin, whereas I am used to the brick of the Epic in my pocket.
What I ask of all of you is this: Do you have any suggestions on which handset I should grab from these guys? (Remember: It's being given to us, FREE) If so, why? In general, I am trying to either get as close to my Epic experience as possible, or to exceed it. I will miss the keyboard, but I am OK with loosing it.
For the record, I am rooted on my epic with CWM3 and running the latest Frozen Syndicate Mod (and LOVING it ), so ease of rooting, stability and availabilities of quality mods are certainly factors. ... I've just never heard ANYTHING about Huawei and there seems to be a bunch of different kind of info out there for the Panache (It's also call the Glacier and mytouch... I think?)
There you have it! Any suggestions would be killer.
NOTE: I do have access to the 4g Huawei right now, if anyone would like pictures or reviews of it, impressions etc, and I also have the chance soon to get my hands on literally any of the other handsets in their inventory to test out (the Panache, it seems is coming out on Friday). Hopefully I will be able to get a hand on that a bit early, and if so, I'll def. post some info. If anyone has any ideas or suggestions, let me know, and also if anyone wants me to grab a given phone for a test run to review on here, I'm more than happy to try!
Thanks!
tl;dr: Moving from sprint to cincinnati bell, I currently have a epic, whats the best phone I can get from them?
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Can i have your epic???
blueoxide said:
Nah, none of them have the keyboards unfortunately, thats why I'm trying to find the best phone to get given their lineup. Would you go for the HTC over the Huawei?
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Get the Panache, its the same phone as the Mytouch 4G without the god awful mytouch logo.
I voted for other because nothing was not an option.
I have had a great experience with Sprint and don't plan on leaving when my contract is up.
You shoulda got 3 unlimited everythings for cheaper than your shared plan duh. But if sprint in your area is not as good than that's a different matter. I've been with sprint for 8 years and they are excellent
I suppose I should also mention that along with this we are overhauling all of our business land lines, internet, dedicated internet/phone lines for security and camera etc and cinbell is offering one mega-package for us etc. The plan details are apples to oranges I'd imagine.
Screen size = Huawei (4G)
Hardware = Samsung (no 4G)
Roms = HTC (4G)
Voted "Other" because non of those options are > the Epic all around.
Looked through the phones and I would go with the Panache. It has Gingerbread, more RAM than the Ascend (768MB vs 512MB) and it has 4G, which the Vibrant does not. The Ascend concerns me a bit...it just came out, and it has Froyo on it. Who knows if and when it would get Gingerbread and a few places I see reviews for it refer to it as "low-cost" and "low-end". Not to say it doesn't have a lot of features, but that is how it is referred to (Which on the low-end of the phone market, the phone rates well) If you are getting the phones for free, I would think the HTC would be the winner for you. Cincinnati Bell looks to have good plans and good national coverage... I don't think you will be disappointed. Best of luck to you!
I would really use the loaner you have for awhile.. I myself had cincinnati bell and the signal was horrible all over the west side of town and northern ky.. I have three friends who jumped into cincy bells low rates they advertised.. And really in the end they are still paying more that the sprint bill.. But if you are on a huge corporate deal price will be cheaper.. But those friends are constantly asking me to text so and so or call someone cause they all constantly have signal issues.. So I would def check that the signal is good in the areas you most frequent. just giving some personal experience. But if the signal is there for you jump on that good deal..
Ever consider flashing to a prepaid unlimited plan?
yeah im pretty sure sprint is among the cheapest and has some of the best phones, service, and coverage. only verizon bats spint on the coverage. im am on a family plan with three phones, unlimited everything, 1400 minutes i believe, and 4g for my epic. it totals to about $120 something a month.
my dad on the other hand has verizon. he just bought the new iphone, unlimited everything, and 1400 minutes too. he pays about $75 a month. 4g for verizon is like $20 or $30 (i cant remember). thats outrageous compared to the $10 a month for 4g on sprint.
i really suggest sitting down, working out a budget, working out a reasonable phone plan to work with that budget, compare different phone services, and research phones for each. i think youll find that sprint is among the best and cheapest.
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blueoxide said:
I would appreciate not being called nuts, first off.
Second: Between myself, my fiance and my mother, we have a 1500 minute shared plan + "unlimited" data and the extra 9.99 / month for my epic 4g data. We average between 325 and 400 per month.
The plan they are offering us gives us 5 4g phones, unlimited data and 3000 minutes, all for under 300 dollars.
In terms of service, I've never been a huge fan of sprint, I rarely have anything more than 2 bars of 3g coverage, and in many places less. Their 4g network in this area is abysmal, also.
In any case, I was asking about which of those phones people thought to be equivalent or superior to my current phone, not about whether I should switch. I have been continually disappointed with sprint service for years, this is just the final nail in the coffin.
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i think u r not right about comparing minutes... remember sprint gives unlimited calls to any mobile phones... n plus i have 5 phones n pay under 200 w/ all 4g phones. that includes everything.... not saying that to convince u. but what u said is not right at all about plan... n i love sprint. their C.S is the greatest. peaceee
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my 1500 everything data plan with 3 lines, 2 premium data fees, 2 insurance fees, and an airave, with my meager corperate discount comes to 171.36 per month. i can bundle this with my time warner cable bill for more savings, since they are partners, but i prefer not to have all my eggs in one basket. id hate to get everything cut off at once if i were late. i can do with out cable, or phone. but never both at once!
Hello,
We are long time Verizon customers but have had enough of their capricious attitude, the insane recent price hikes and limited data plans. (although we currently have unlimited data). However, my husband's phone was stolen about a month ago and while we're using an old phone for the moment, we need to upgrade it for him. I like Sprint's current business model of unlimited everything (& we plan to sign up for everything data plus from the employees referral to save a bit and get more minutes). We also like the fact that Sprint is a green company and supports more things that we believe in. Yeah, I know that we're giving up the network for a bit until Sprint's Network Vision is completed but I think we can live with that.
Here's my dilemma. There are no Sprint owned stores in our area, just third party stores and only a couple of those so I can't buy through them &get everything data plus... Which is fine because they don't know much at all. I went there to try to see both the Evo 4G LTE side by side with the Samsung Galaxy S3...both working. Unfortunately, they didn't have a working model of the S3 but they opened up a package so I could at least hold them next to each other.
My concern most of all is with the radio quality and reception. I have some serious medical issues so being able to call for help is a frequent need. I took my current phone (HTC Rezound), my husband's Motorola DROID X, and the Evo LTE, and did side by side comparisons of the radios. My Rezound came in top at -80 give or take a few both directions, the DX, at -86 also give/take & the Evo LTE at -97 to -103. I then tried to load a webpage on my Rezound and the Evo. I picked yahoo because it has mixed media &was a first thing that popped into my head. My Rezound loaded the desktop version in less than 20 seconds... The Evo was still attempting to load the mobile version after several minutes.
So, do I believe the story that the mall kiosk has terrible Sprint reception? Was the demo Evo LTE one of the bad first batch? I know that there will be a step back in service speed but this was unbearable. I'm hoping that this isn't the normal for Sprint service... I mean it can't be, right? Right no one would use them.
What I'm unable to find out is what the Samsung Galaxy S3 radio is like compared to the Evo LTE in similar circumstances. I can't afford to get one of the phones, not have it work, pay the restocking fee and a second activation fee. With two lines that's over $200 just to switch away from a defective phone. Is there any leeway given for phones that won't hold a signal... Like allowing us to switch to another phone if the first is defective? I know that the base chipset is the same between the two phones but from what I've read the radios themselves can be different based on the manufacturer. So, I don't know what either the HTC Evo LTE or galaxy S3 would be like on any specific phone and it sounds like there are differences in the batches. What do I do or what would you do? I know we're taking a risk switching to carriers but we want to live authentically and put money into companies that are supporting the things we believe in and shaping their company based upon similar values. We will be having to do a transfer of our Vzw account (assumption of liability) once we're settled into Sprint but not until we're positive it works for us. Then we'll give up our Vzw contract so we don't owe an ETF. It also gives my DH the phone upgrade he needs since his was stolen during one of my medical emergencies. Vzw refused to help us at all through the whole process.
But I digress.
What do you think phone wise? Bad reception? Bad Evo LTE? Would you take a chance on the S3 with Samsung's past radio issues... Do you think that they've improved them? Would you take a chance on getting a bad Evo LTE since HTC /Sprint have admitted to a problem there? Since I can't compare them side by side working or compare radio strengths I really need advice!
Thanks so much in advance!
All the best,
Rae
varaonaid said:
Hello,
We are long time Verizon customers but have had enough of their capricious attitude, the insane recent price hikes and limited data plans. (although we currently have unlimited data). However, my husband's phone was stolen about a month ago and while we're using an old phone for the moment, we need to upgrade it for him. I like Sprint's current business model of unlimited everything (& we plan to sign up for everything data plus from the employees referral to save a bit and get more minutes). We also like the fact that Sprint is a green company and supports more things that we believe in. Yeah, I know that we're giving up the network for a bit until Sprint's Network Vision is completed but I think we can live with that.
Here's my dilemma. There are no Sprint owned stores in our area, just third party stores and only a couple of those so I can't buy through them &get everything data plus... Which is fine because they don't know much at all. I went there to try to see both the Evo 4G LTE side by side with the Samsung Galaxy S3...both working. Unfortunately, they didn't have a working model of the S3 but they opened up a package so I could at least hold them next to each other.
My concern most of all is with the radio quality and reception. I have some serious medical issues so being able to call for help is a frequent need. I took my current phone (HTC Rezound), my husband's Motorola DROID X, and the Evo LTE, and did side by side comparisons of the radios. My Rezound came in top at -80 give or take a few both directions, the DX, at -86 also give/take & the Evo LTE at -97 to -103. I then tried to load a webpage on my Rezound and the Evo. I picked yahoo because it has mixed media &was a first thing that popped into my head. My Rezound loaded the desktop version in less than 20 seconds... The Evo was still attempting to load the mobile version after several minutes.
So, do I believe the story that the mall kiosk has terrible Sprint reception? Was the demo Evo LTE one of the bad first batch? I know that there will be a step back in service speed but this was unbearable. I'm hoping that this isn't the normal for Sprint service... I mean it can't be, right? Right no one would use them.
What I'm unable to find out is what the Samsung Galaxy S3 radio is like compared to the Evo LTE in similar circumstances. I can't afford to get one of the phones, not have it work, pay the restocking fee and a second activation fee. With two lines that's over $200 just to switch away from a defective phone. Is there any leeway given for phones that won't hold a signal... Like allowing us to switch to another phone if the first is defective? I know that the base chipset is the same between the two phones but from what I've read the radios themselves can be different based on the manufacturer. So, I don't know what either the HTC Evo LTE or galaxy S3 would be like on any specific phone and it sounds like there are differences in the batches. What do I do or what would you do? I know we're taking a risk switching to carriers but we want to live authentically and put money into companies that are supporting the things we believe in and shaping their company based upon similar values. We will be having to do a transfer of our Vzw account (assumption of liability) once we're settled into Sprint but not until we're positive it works for us. Then we'll give up our Vzw contract so we don't owe an ETF. It also gives my DH the phone upgrade he needs since his was stolen during one of my medical emergencies. Vzw refused to help us at all through the whole process.
But I digress.
What do you think phone wise? Bad reception? Bad Evo LTE? Would you take a chance on the S3 with Samsung's past radio issues... Do you think that they've improved them? Would you take a chance on getting a bad Evo LTE since HTC /Sprint have admitted to a problem there? Since I can't compare them side by side working or compare radio strengths I really need advice!
Thanks so much in advance!
All the best,
Rae
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It all varies on your area, you need to find people who live around you and ask there opinion. Some ppl say the HTC radio sucks, others say Sammys sucks. Rumor was without pure fact that Samsung was using a radio like the Motorola phones use. Lots of ppl are reporting positive feedback with the GS3. So it's something you can try, and if the store can't help you avoid a restocking fee, I would call customer service to see if theyd waive it.
However I know Sprint hasnt charged me a restock fee yet or ever, and if you have reception issues at home they will send you a free airwave...
I've heard that Sprint 3g is awful in some areas. I get decent enough speeds here and LTE is coming to my area soon so I won't be changing carrier. However, if LTE wasn't coming soon I'd definitely consider jumping ship.
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I've heard that Sprint 3g is awful in some areas. I get decent enough speeds here and LTE is coming to my area soon so I won't be changing carrier. However, if LTE wasn't coming soon I'd definitely consider jumping ship.
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The thing is and to be honest, once LTE hits, everyone will be *****ing about battery life. There is not a reason you cant jump on WIFI if avalible. Or use 3g... I have been stuck and still am stuck on 3g, and things load instantly for me... granted I'm not downloading big videos or anything...
But I know her main point was coverage... so she'd really need to stop at a store and talk to people who use the phone outside of the business
I'll let you know. Mostly I want to know that Sprint will stand behind either phone if the radios aren't up to par without the restocking fees and a second activation fee... I can't afford $210 of activation, restocking and another reactivation fee for phones that are defective. I'm not talking about just changing my mind and wanting a different phone but needing to trust that one way or another I'll get two phones with no radio issues.
It's not as simple as just staying with VZW, my husband's phone was stolen during one of my medical emergencies... He's currently using an old phone but it's not working very well. So, we either pony up for a new phone (even if it's via Craigslist) or we get a new provider (who hopefully gives a care bc Vzw certainly didn't!), both get new phones and sell our current ones to cover most of the upfront cost of the new phones. We could wait until Network Vision is completed or moreso but will they still be able to offer unlimited data plan at that point. Since we feel that we want to switch, now feels like a good time to do so. Does that make sense?
No we're not out of contract with Verizon but have people lined up to do an AOL (assumption of liability or contract takeover) so we'd be out of it with no fees. However, we won't complete the AOL until we're sure that Sprint will work for us now.
Does anyone know if the everything data plus (we'd be looking at the 1600min family plan) has free activation? I'd have to order online and it would be via employee referral? Also, do you get any numbers you can pick that are unlimited to those numbers? Verizon had friends and family where you got to pick a handful of numbers that you call the most that don't count against our minutes. My only concern is my in laws as they have a VERY limited cell plan and use their land line almost exclusively. If we could add that one number that would help a ton. I'd read somewhere online that Sprint had something similar but now, of course, can't find it again.
I appreciate all of your help and advice so very much. I hope this explains more why we're considering the switch and why we need good phone reception... At least as good as is currently possible on their network.
BTW, when we informed Vzw about the phone theft we were tracking the phone on Google latitude and the refused to help or advise us as to what to do in any way. Super disappointed with their lack of help. If the customer service had been better, we might have gotten our phone back. I've heard good things about Sprint's customer service.
Any other thoughts or suggestions or advice... Please share! And many thanks to all of you who have shared!
Order directly from Sprint
As a former employee of a 3rd party vendor, if you are worried about the vendors complying with Sprint's 30-day no strings window, order your phones directly from Sprint. If your or your husband's employer have an agreement with sprint that nets their employee's a discount, they might also have an exclusive sales team and pricing. Most corporate discounts waive the activation fee on new lines and Sprint(corporate, not 3rd party) is very good about exchanges. Keep in mind 3rd party vendors can, and do, pretty much whatever they want, if they treat you poorly, email [email protected] and it will garner the attention of Dan Hesse's resolution team. But again if you want to avoid the 3rd party headache, just order online or over the phone. Good luck, and I will check back as I just ordered both, an evo lte and sIII, for my wife and I. I will let you know how signal goes.
Sprint is very giving... ill PM you a number to use when you call them.
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Thanks so much for the new info. I really appreciate it. Please do send along the best number to call Sprint at. That's totally awesome. I just need to make sure that we have good enough reception in our area and that we get good working phones. I'm really glad to hear that they are a "giving" company or maybe best to describe as doing what it takes to satisfy the customer. Vzw seems to be purposely going the opposite way and I'm not impressed. Again, I'd love that phone number to use and would also love to hear your thoughts and impressions of the two phones when you get them! I Please keep the info coming!
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Thanks so much for the new info. I really appreciate it. Please do send along the best number to call Sprint at. That's totally awesome. I just need to make sure that we have good enough reception in our area and that we get good working phones. I'm really glad to hear that they are a "giving" company or maybe best to describe as doing what it takes to satisfy the customer. Vzw seems to be purposely going the opposite way and I'm not impressed. Again, I'd love that phone number to use and would also love to hear your thoughts and impressions of the two phones when you get them! I Please keep the info coming!
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As of right now i get great signal and battery on my sprint s iii. I support ur cjoicr to switch. As far as customer sipport u eont regret it. If u have bad sifnal call them at any customer service number and request an airrave theyll send one for free. Those give u full signal at home. I believe emergency calls work without signal too so 911 shouldn't be a problem anyway, and airave should fix signal worries. So far this phone has great radio so far as I can tell.
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I'm just curious as to which company everyone will be getting their GNote2 on? I am undecided between AT&T and Big Red (Verizon). I know Verizon will have bootlock GNote2, but Im sure someone will figure out around it. My mane concern is service, data speeds... Who do you think has the best... Sprint and T-Mobile are not even an option for me.
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I'm just curious as to which company everyone will be getting their GNote2 on? I am undecided between AT&T and Big Red (Verizon). I know Verizon will have bootlock GNote2, but Im sure someone will figure out around it. My mane concern is service, data speeds... Who do you think has the best... Sprint and T-Mobile are not even an option for me.
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U.S. Cellular all the way! CDMA rules the land.
While GSM is nowhere to be seen.....
ima get sprint anyways i will flash it to boostmobile i got great speed on the galaxy s3 flash to boostmobile as long i can watch youtube video with buffering im good i dont need all the speed most of the time i be on wifi i got both wifi at work and home and for 50 dollar unlimited you cant go wrong
it just gona cost me i will preoder from amazon so i can put they insurance
1st Verizon
2nd T-Mobile
Sprint - Came from there and not going back.
AT&T - Unethical company that's always leading the industry with ripping off consumers.
Going verizon. Wife's getting my s3. Opening 2nd line for note 2. Freaking can't wait
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Going verizon. Wife's getting my s3. Opening 2nd line for note 2. Freaking can't wait
synergized and Ikilling
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i'm excited myself.... its so close yet so far away
Verizon then T-Mobile. Right now I have unlimited data and I buy my devices outright anyway... So the speeds here Verizon > T-Mobile. 60mbps vs. 8mbps.
Getting mine through Sprint!
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I'm currently on AT&T, and have been for 4 years or so. My plan is up in Feb, but I'm really looking forward to the Note 2, so if they don't allow me to early upgrade, I may just eat the ETF, and look around for a different carrier. I'd like to pay a little less than the 98 a month i'm paying now for unlimited data + 450 minutes +1500 text. It's murdering me.
Do you guys think it would be worth it to buy the phone un-subsidized and go to a cheap plan? I see people mentioning stuff like 50 a month unlimited data and stuff... That blows my mind.
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I see people mentioning stuff like 50 a month unlimited data and stuff... That blows my mind.
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That would be me, but no it's a plan they no longer offer. If they axe my plan I will probably switch too. But apparently I'm pretty tick off about Verizon CFO right now about the "Unlimited is just a word" thing.
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I'm currently on AT&T, and have been for 4 years or so. My plan is up in Feb, but I'm really looking forward to the Note 2, so if they don't allow me to early upgrade, I may just eat the ETF, and look around for a different carrier. I'd like to pay a little less than the 98 a month i'm paying now for unlimited data + 450 minutes +1500 text. It's murdering me.
Do you guys think it would be worth it to buy the phone un-subsidized and go to a cheap plan? I see people mentioning stuff like 50 a month unlimited data and stuff... That blows my mind.
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I did that with the og note. would do it again but can't afford it outright again this time. If you can afford it I recommend it
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T-Mobile for me, I've always gotten good service and low prices for my plans from them.
I will be getting this beast on the Yellow network...
Im currently on the tmobile $30 plan - and after going all in with google voice it's been great. I'll probably stick with tmobile and either get the international note 2 or the tmobile version (as i think it'll be a pentaband phone)
I currently have the note and service with AT&T... I left sprint to get this phone and I won't get anything else if it's not the note 2 or 3...
I will be paying the ETF on AT&T and head over to Verizon.... AT&T doesn't provide LTE in my area and Verizon does...
Just a bit of information on someone that don't currently have the note.... You will be using this phone for pretty much everything... So for that reason I would advise you guys to look into your areas and go with a provider that offers LTE..... Only if you can afford it.... I stream pretty much anything I want.. Movies, sports, using slingbox as well and the big screen is just amazing to watch these things...
So there you have it... Don't get discourage on the screen size.... At first you will be like, what did I do? But believe me, after a coupe of days you will not put it down.....
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Getting mine on Sprint!
Not sure. I was planning to just upgrade on my ATT line; since I have unlimited data. But T-Mobile is looking very appealing. I'm such a noob to android though. I'm wondering if one will have more development than the other.
sticking with UK vodafine in the UK, I've got 12 months laft on my existing note contract, they said they would offer me the note 2 at £280, my mates offered me the same for my note, so thats a no brainer really. Although I cant actually order until Monday 01/10/2012.
I'll let you guys know when its in my hand!
What colour are people going for, im gonna get the dark one, I'm just not a fan of white electronic devices, its all a bit poser'ish pour moi.
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What colour are people going for, im gonna get the dark one, I'm just not a fan of white electronic devices, its all a bit poser'ish pour moi.
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Going with the grey for sure. Never did like white as well. Wish it was Satin Black though, maybe matte.
AT&T for me. Been with them since 1997 so I have unlimited data. Best LTE network I have seen in Texas. (Have Verizon for work). I get a great corporate discount on my rate plan so I cannot wait for the GN2!
Titanium Grey for me. Never had a white phone and see no reason to start now.
Can someone from Att please respond and let us know why in the world are they charging over 100 dollars more for their note over Verizons? I would really like to know this. You guys should price match!
Because they know their customers are sheep.
I refuse to buy it from Att unless they lower it. I currently plan on buying it from t-mobile and paying to have it unlocked so I can use it on att and hopefully have an unlocked bootloader.
You can't just walk into a T Mobile store and buy a note 4, you need to have a account with them.
You can after it is released, but you can't preorder it without an account.
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You can't just walk into a T Mobile store and buy a note 4, you need to have a account with them.
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I thought you can buy any phone for $50 more without a plan.
I'm so glad I switched to T-mobile.
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I agree it sucks but most customers don't know the difference or that they even have other options. I can't see my 60 yr old dad trying to save a $100 by by buying from T-Mobile and then figuring out APN settings when he doesn't even know what they are.
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Can someone from Att please respond and let us know why in the world are they charging over 100 dollars more for their note over Verizons? I would really like to know this. You guys should price match!
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Yeah, like executives from ATT read posts from XDA...and, like they would care about overcharging for ANYTHING...
It is funny as evil as big corp is like ATT and VZW and BofA and Delta, people still want to go with them even if they got Tmo coverage.
Go figures. So why?
What's funny to me is all of the people that don't know the actual meaning of the word Evil...
They may be greedy, which T-Mobile is too, but not exactly evil...
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What's funny to me is all of the people that don't know the actual meaning of the word Evil...
They may be greedy, which T-Mobile is too, but not exactly evil...
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No man. Tmo is not evil. They are the pricing leader. You didnt know this?
Pricing leader doesn't mean they aren't greedy, or 'evil' for that matter.
Just means that they are the cheapest right now. Oh, and also have the sh|tt|est network, too... Coincidence?
couldnt disagree with you more; you obviously arent in a major metro or suburban area, because tMobile is fantastic now in those areas..
rural and country area, not so good, but otherwise you are totally off base..
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couldnt disagree with you more; you obviously arent in a major metro or suburban area, because tMobile is fantastic now in those areas..
rural and country area, not so good, but otherwise you are totally off base..
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Tmobile can be pretty bad in my area, North and central NJ. Otherwise I would have switched the them long ago. Worst thing is at the hospital I work at I get 5 bars Tmobile at the front door, by the time I get to my office I have zero reception making my phone a paperweight, where my ATT retains it's 5 full bars all the way to my office. I'm not seeing where Tmobile has much cheaper plans than ATT either, certainly not cheap enough to make me lose reception, I think last time I looked it was a $10/month difference.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not in love with ATT. I just don't see the value in getting Tmobile, at least in my area.
if you havent tried them recently, it might be worth taking their 7 day "test drive" to see if they have improved coverage in your area..they give you an iphone to use for 7 days for free, so you could see if their nationwide network improvement program did anything in your area..
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if you havent tried them recently, it might be worth taking their 7 day "test drive" to see if they have improved coverage in your area..they give you an iphone to use for 7 days for free, so you could see if their nationwide network improvement program did anything in your area..
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Yeah maybe worth trying. Last time I gave them a shot was about 8 months ago. The reception varied widely wherever I traveled. NJ is a weird place, you would think as one of the most dense areas in the country it would have perfect coverage, but it does not. Even my ATT reception is funky at times. But the worst offence with Tmobile was their indoor coverage, in any large building it seemed to be awful. I doubt they are going to be able to fix that, especially with their push for WiFi calling, WiFi unfortunately is unavailable to me at my work.
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I thought you can buy any phone for $50 more without a plan.
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I'm guessing you're joking
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Pricing leader doesn't mean they aren't greedy, or 'evil' for that matter.
Just means that they are the cheapest right now. Oh, and also have the sh|tt|est network, too... Coincidence?
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there IS no t-Mobile in Montana - so we piggyback/roam onto att anyway. But who else besides T-Mo offers no 4g throttle down after 2gb-4gb . . . . . that's Way more valuable than a less spotty network, IMO.
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so.... the question is the tmobile version is 100% compatible with att lte? what about the sprint or verizon version? i heard the verizon versin is only 699.
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I'm guessing you're joking
there IS no t-Mobile in Montana - so we piggyback/roam onto att anyway. But who else besides T-Mo offers no 4g throttle down after 2gb-4gb . . . . . that's Way more valuable than a less spotty network, IMO.
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Not more valuable to me... I NEED my phone to actually work reliably in the 13 cities I support, or *I* won't work reliably... Lol. I use maybe 7-10 gig a month, so I just pay for it.
For some people, unlimited worth spottier service may be worth it though. Each to their own.