My wife and I each purchased Tilt2's earlier this week. We both come from Windows Mobile 6.1 phones and are generally happy with WinMo products and comfortable with tweaking them.
We're both having some trouble with the Tilt2 and I'm hoping that someone here might be able to help.
1) Bluetooth sound quality - we each use Bluetooth headsets and have noticed lots of crackling unless the phone is turned with the back facing the headset. This didn't happen with our previous phones (same headsets) unless we got 15-20 feet away from the phone.
2) Dropped calls - I've noticed a ton of dropped calls when I'm talking on the phone and driving along my normal work commute. There are 1-2 holes along the route where my previous phone would drop, but this one drops 5-6 times. I found these radio updates in the ROM forum. Would that help?
3) General performance - The phone seems a little bit laggy and slow to react. Nothing like what we saw in demo videos on sites like wmexperts.com. My wife even reports that hers has completely locked up on her before. And I've noticed a severe lag waiting for the phone to come back after I've flipped the keyboard out. I assume that installing a custom ROM would help with this as it's helped on previous phones we've owned. However, there isn't a 100% working AT&T ROM to revert to yet (only one that appears to work is missing radio and bootsplash at this point) in case the custom ROM doesn't perform better, so I'm a little leary of doing it. Should I be worried? Or will the custom ROMs here help get rid of the lagginess.
4) Switching to landscape mode - My wife told me that her phone isn't always switching to landscape mode. She doesn't have any apps installed yet so I'm assuming it's in all of the default screens. Should everything work in landscape mode?
Thanks in advance!
e_dogg said:
My wife and I each purchased Tilt2's earlier this week. We both come from Windows Mobile 6.1 phones and are generally happy with WinMo products and comfortable with tweaking them.
We're both having some trouble with the Tilt2 and I'm hoping that someone here might be able to help.
1) Bluetooth sound quality - we each use Bluetooth headsets and have noticed lots of crackling unless the phone is turned with the back facing the headset. This didn't happen with our previous phones (same headsets) unless we got 15-20 feet away from the phone.
2) Dropped calls - I've noticed a ton of dropped calls when I'm talking on the phone and driving along my normal work commute. There are 1-2 holes along the route where my previous phone would drop, but this one drops 5-6 times. I found these radio updates in the ROM forum. Would that help?
3) General performance - The phone seems a little bit laggy and slow to react. Nothing like what we saw in demo videos on sites like wmexperts.com. My wife even reports that hers has completely locked up on her before. And I've noticed a severe lag waiting for the phone to come back after I've flipped the keyboard out. I assume that installing a custom ROM would help with this as it's helped on previous phones we've owned. However, there isn't a 100% working AT&T ROM to revert to yet (only one that appears to work is missing radio and bootsplash at this point) in case the custom ROM doesn't perform better, so I'm a little leary of doing it. Should I be worried? Or will the custom ROMs here help get rid of the lagginess.
4) Switching to landscape mode - My wife told me that her phone isn't always switching to landscape mode. She doesn't have any apps installed yet so I'm assuming it's in all of the default screens. Should everything work in landscape mode?
Thanks in advance!
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As for #4: Not all programs have a landscape mode natively.
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As for #4: Not all programs have a landscape mode natively.
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Thanks. I figured that she might be using an app that doesn't work in landscape since I haven't come across it yet.
Also, regarding #2, I should have mentioned that I have 4.48.25.20 as my current radio.
1) I use Jabra 2nd gen and mine is working great. A little crackling sound but nothing major.
2) Depend on the area you live and coverage, you might want to try different radio. I have stock radio and mine is working great. Better than my fuze was actually. I can get 1 or more bar than Fuze and call quality is super clear. No drop calls yet while I had like 2-3 drop calls with my fuze.
3) I am still running on stock rom and yes indeed it's slow and sluggish. I have to reset the phone physically sometimes. I am not too happy about moving the battery cover just to reset as well. With custom rom, the phone will be snappy since some people are running custom rom with their Tilt2 already. I am in the same boat as you. Waiting for the complete stock rom dump. Until then.
4) Not all the landscape work as you have already found out.
I use a BlueAnt and my BT reception is good.
I thought mine was slow at first but as I tweaked it a bit, turning off alerts and pop ups, it SEEMS to be more of what I expected.
Haven't had a dropped call issue.
But, I am thinking that I will flash the ROM when something comes along.
Thanks for the replies.
FWIW, my wife uses a Jawbone 2 and the crackling is noticable on both ends of the call. I use a first-gen Jawbone and have nocticed the crackling as well. It seems that it works better when the phone is on the same side of my body as the headset. I did not notice this crackling on my Dash and Blackjack 2 nor her Dash.
I think the dropped calls problem is definitely area related. My wife is currently out of town and it hasn't dropped her calls at all that I know of. And when I'm at home, it's no problem. It's just that on my regular commute, it drops 5-6 times where my previous Dash and Blackjack 2 only dropped once or twice occasionally. I've only made my commute once since I got the Tilt2, so maybe there were some coincidental network issues. That said, call quality has been very good.
I just turned off the new SMS notifications. I've also removed a couple of tabs that I know I'm never going to use (stocks, AT&T, and music) at that seems to have made things a little snappier too.
HAH! Not more than 1-2 minutes after I posted my last message (from my laptop), I went to use the internet connection on my Tilt2 and it locked up. A message appeared asking if I wanted to send error details to MS and then my phone turned off.
Another thing I've noticed is that Opera takes a *really* long time to switch from landscape to portrait. And it seems to be significantly slower than Opera Mini was on my Dash and Blackjack 2. Maybe because Opera Mini is Java-based on those platforms?
My wife is now reporting that her Tilt2 won't unlock unless she slides open the keyboard. Her Exchange connection requires the phone to automatically lock and require a PIN entry. I suggested tapping the power button but that doesn't wake it up, either.
Any suggestions? I'm thinking she might have a bum unit since mine isn't having nearly the trouble hers is.
As far as the lockups, I think there was a thread somewhere about that. Mine doesn't actually lock up but it hangs horribly. Give it 5min or so and it figures itself out, usually involves opening the keyboard at the same time it is launching something, sms in my case.
Suggestion? Hard reset hers and if it continues swap it out.
SoapDoctor said:
As far as the lockups, I think there was a thread somewhere about that. Mine doesn't actually lock up but it hangs horribly. Give it 5min or so and it figures itself out, usually involves opening the keyboard at the same time it is launching something, sms in my case.
Suggestion? Hard reset hers and if it continues swap it out.
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Thanks for the tip. Unfortunately, she's out of town right now so I actually haven't seen the things she's complaining about first-hand (except for a couple of things that have happened on mine too).
I'll send her instructions for a hard reset and see if she's adventurous enough to try it on her own. The AT&T store near where she's at is exceptionally good - they really know Windows Mobile there and were a big help in getting the phone initially set up. So, worst case, she can go there and have them do it.
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Thanks for the tip. Unfortunately, she's out of town right now so I actually haven't seen the things she's complaining about first-hand (except for a couple of things that have happened on mine too).
I'll send her instructions for a hard reset and see if she's adventurous enough to try it on her own. The AT&T store near where she's at is exceptionally good - they really know Windows Mobile there and were a big help in getting the phone initially set up. So, worst case, she can go there and have them do it.
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Don't run to fast with my advice, I'm a complete noob but hard reset would be the first thing I would try. It is a microsoft product after all and I'm pretty dman lazy to run to the store first.
FWIW- I have a Jawbone 2 and have cracking in the audio. Had it with my Fuze also and have always wondered if it was the headset or phone. I don't think I could keep my fuze in the holster because of the crackling.
I have some slight performance issues, but it's not to bad. Seems mostly relating to minimizing a program and starting a new one.
I have a strange problem with the TF3D photo tab. It's slow to get the image clear. I select an image and then try to scroll through them. It hangs on one, then flips it's orientation (I haven't moved the phone though). Anyone else have issues with the photo tab?
e_dogg said:
My wife and I each purchased Tilt2's earlier this week. We both come from Windows Mobile 6.1 phones and are generally happy with WinMo products and comfortable with tweaking them.
We're both having some trouble with the Tilt2 and I'm hoping that someone here might be able to help.
3) General performance - The phone seems a little bit laggy and slow to react. Nothing like what we saw in demo videos on sites like wmexperts.com. My wife even reports that hers has completely locked up on her before. And I've noticed a severe lag waiting for the phone to come back after I've flipped the keyboard out. I assume that installing a custom ROM would help with this as it's helped on previous phones we've owned. However, there isn't a 100% working AT&T ROM to revert to yet (only one that appears to work is missing radio and bootsplash at this point) in case the custom ROM doesn't perform better, so I'm a little leary of doing it. Should I be worried? Or will the custom ROMs here help get rid of the lagginess.
4) Switching to landscape mode - My wife told me that her phone isn't always switching to landscape mode. She doesn't have any apps installed yet so I'm assuming it's in all of the default screens. Should everything work in landscape mode?
Thanks in advance!
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#3 I am running NRG ROM Photon date 10/17 and it is insane on my tilt 2. No radio change either. Stupid fast, eye candy, and never a dropped call or sluggish issues. Link below (5k plus thread, really read the first page to see the versions and Faq's)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=553506
I'd like to add that I'm also having some issues with sound and response time.
My phone starts fresh with about 65% of resources used up. After regular phone/contacts usage for an hour I'm at around 70% and after Opera, the phone is done. I can browse or use file explorer or music but there goes the multi-tasking.
I haven't flashed a ROM yet. I just wanted to see what AT&T did with this thing 1st.
One more thing, why did they switch the FN and Shift keys? My brain is having a hard time getting used to it, especially when the shortcuts that require the Fn key are on the bottom row.
I can't really help you out too much, but I haven't been experiencing many of these problems at all, and I'm still on the stock rom, just cleaned it up a bit. Spend some time on the forums and you'll find some good quick hacks to try before you try a new rom.
superrrguy said:
I'd like to add that I'm also having some issues with sound and response time.
My phone starts fresh with about 65% of resources used up. After regular phone/contacts usage for an hour I'm at around 70% and after Opera, the phone is done. I can browse or use file explorer or music but there goes the multi-tasking.
I haven't flashed a ROM yet. I just wanted to see what AT&T did with this thing 1st.
One more thing, why did they switch the FN and Shift keys? My brain is having a hard time getting used to it, especially when the shortcuts that require the Fn key are on the bottom row.
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Touch FLO 3D uses up quite a bit of RAM. I unloaded it and restarted, and my phone is down from 65% to 49%. Unfortunately, I'm kind of liking Touch FLO 3D
Linear2202 said:
FWIW- I have a Jawbone 2 and have cracking in the audio. Had it with my Fuze also and have always wondered if it was the headset or phone. I don't think I could keep my fuze in the holster because of the crackling.
I have some slight performance issues, but it's not to bad. Seems mostly relating to minimizing a program and starting a new one.
I have a strange problem with the TF3D photo tab. It's slow to get the image clear. I select an image and then try to scroll through them. It hangs on one, then flips it's orientation (I haven't moved the phone though). Anyone else have issues with the photo tab?
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Good info about your Jawbone issues. I have an old Plantronics headset that I'm not really using anymore. Maybe I'll give that one a try to see if it's just that Jawbones don't like these new versions of HTC phones (it worked great on her Dash).
As for the photos tab, it seems to work ok. Though the first "flip" through the pictures seems to be slower than subsequent flips.
I found that hiding tabs I won't be using like the "AT&T" tab seems to help speed things up. I think I have 3 or 4 hidden.
amurch said:
#3 I am running NRG ROM Photon date 10/17 and it is insane on my tilt 2. No radio change either. Stupid fast, eye candy, and never a dropped call or sluggish issues. Link below (5k plus thread, really read the first page to see the versions and Faq's)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=553506
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Thanks - good to hear of your sucess with the NRG ROM. That's the one I'm planning on trying since I really like the 6.5.1 changes.
redpoint73 said:
Touch FLO 3D uses up quite a bit of RAM. I unloaded it and restarted, and my phone is down from 65% to 49%. Unfortunately, I'm kind of liking Touch FLO 3D
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Yeah, Touch FLO 3D sure is purty. And, now that I have the tabs sorted and hidden the way I like, it's very easy to use.
Just an update...the Energy ROM seems to have cured the dropped calls. With the stock AT&T ROM, calls dropped about 5-6 times on my regular commute. With the Energy ROM, not a single one!
Something that has happened to me now a few times...I get a call on the phone. Caller ID and picture show up fine. Screen turns off..later i turn the screen on and the phone number is not accurate any longer and the picture is gone..
Anyone had this happen to them?
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Something that has happened to me now a few times...I get a call on the phone. Caller ID and picture show up fine. Screen turns off..later i turn the screen on and the phone number is not accurate any longer and the picture is gone..
Anyone had this happen to them?
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Yep - happened quite often with the stock AT&T ROM. I don't recall seeing it after switching to the Energy ROM.
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I had the Standby of Death SOD this is when the phone fails to come out of standby with a power button press. This issue only affects some people on some networks. I'm not sure if its a network problem or a software problem but as only a minority of people have it, I suspect its mainly a network problem there is a software solution.
The solution is to change the phone settings band option from auto 3G/2G to either 3G Only (WCDMA + UTMS 2100 in Europe) or 2G Only (GSM + AUTO) depending on your requirements.
Also read this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=540943&highlight=standby&page=2 where the resolution was to get a new SIM.
Obviously this only solves the problem when the crash is because of the sim and/or settings which impact the sim. To rule out a software cause its best to start with a hard reset.
had this problem once: I switched on the camera, and then left the device on the table for a long time - so it went to standby.
I could not wake it up by the power button after 20 minutes, but as an incoming call came, it was ringing with a black display, and I could answer the call with my BT headset. screen was still pure black
finally I pushed the reset button and since then everything is fine - I still feel this was connected to the camera.
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had this problem once: I switched on the camera, and then left the device on the table for a long time - so it went to standby.
I could not wake it up by the power button after 20 minutes, but as an incoming call came, it was ringing with a black display, and I could answer the call with my BT headset. screen was still pure black
finally I pushed the reset button and since then everything is fine - I still feel this was connected to the camera.
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Yeah if it only happened the once then that was probably the case, if you have the problem on a regular basis and you know its nothing to do with the camera (becuase you never loaded it) then you have the problem I am describing.
I have exactly the same problem has Terta.
I'm 100% sur that it's the camera that make this bug I have tried all my weekend to reproduce the bug a lot of time and it was always the camera...
Hope someone can fix this bug cause now I can't take any photo without soft-reseting my phone. Very, very, very annoying...
I messed around with the sound app SRS WOW HD for a while to get it work on TP2, with this installed, mine did exactly the same thing.
Sometimes it happened straight away (first sleep), other times it happened a day or so later.
Uninstalled, it did not happen again.
(Not the SIM or Camera for me)
Go figure!
Cheers
Jabberoo
Yes I guess there are many reasons for the Standby of Death, if you have ruled out all software causes such as the camera or installed apps then have a think about the SIM and/or the settings that impact the SIM.
Its the last thing most people will think about. It worked for me and got rid of a random SOD problem 2-3 times a week which coinceded with being in weak 3G areas (where the phone might switch bands automatically) although that never occured to me at the time.
You see I haven't installed other applications nor do I load up the camera and leave it running so I couldn't figure out what was causing it, it just happened randomly not connected with anything particular that I was doing.
i hope there is some kind of magical solution for this because i just got my Sprint TP2 today and I have this issue everytime my phone goes into standby. Pushing the power button wont bring it out but every once in a while opening the keyboard does. I have to continually reset my new phone just to use it
PS; beyond this annoyance, I love it!
coppertop24 said:
i hope there is some kind of magical solution for this because i just got my Sprint TP2 today and I have this issue everytime my phone goes into standby. Pushing the power button wont bring it out but every once in a while opening the keyboard does. I have to continually reset my new phone just to use it
PS; beyond this annoyance, I love it!
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Try taking out the SIM card and see if it still happens everytime the phone goes into standby...
For the past few days I have been restarting my phone thru the soft reset. I think this is a windows issue...it has happened to me even without having the camera app running, and yes I checked the task manager. Hopefully this will be fixed when windows mobile 6.5 comes out, since Im getting frustrated with this phone...I have the phone for about a month now....grrr Stand by of Death!!!
coykiam said:
For the past few days I have been restarting my phone thru the soft reset. I think this is a windows issue...it has happened to me even without having the camera app running, and yes I checked the task manager. Hopefully this will be fixed when windows mobile 6.5 comes out, since Im getting frustrated with this phone...I have the phone for about a month now....grrr Stand by of Death!!!
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so its not just mine then? this is ridiculous
Right, i had got seriously fed up with the standby of death happending, so i decided to contact HTC Europe directly.
They went over the usual 'factory reset' and 'update' solutions before coming to the conclusion that either there is a loose connection/faulty screen or there is some confiliction between drivers of the pre-installed software.
Because all HTC phones have 2 years warrenty as standard they have asked me to send if off so they can invistigate the problem and send me a replacement.
So if anybody is in the same boat as me a suggest you contact HTC and arrange a fix/replace.
Hope this helps.
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Yeah if it only happened the once then that was probably the case, if you have the problem on a regular basis and you know its nothing to do with the camera (becuase you never loaded it) then you have the problem I am describing.
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Add me to the list, seems to happen when I am charging my phone and it hits 100%
This phone reminds me of all my previous Sony Ericsson phones....very unstable OS' ... Makes me regret of getting this one and should've gotten an iPhone...but then again I'm pretty sure iPhone's have issues that apple fanboys aren't admitting. The reason that made me not get an iphone is because of ATT's ridiculous plan pricing...Its crazy!!!
if you are on sprints network, take out the sim card. This has fixed the issue for me. Used to get SOD a few times a day but opening the keyboard and then pressing the power button used to get me out of it. This was really annoying, and i read that it may be issues with the sim card. Took that out a week ago and havent had a SOD yet
jabberoo said:
I messed around with the sound app SRS WOW HD for a while to get it work on TP2, with this installed, mine did exactly the same thing.
Sometimes it happened straight away (first sleep), other times it happened a day or so later.
Uninstalled, it did not happen again.
(Not the SIM or Camera for me)
Go figure!
Cheers
Jabberoo
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Jabberoo I can verify that this was caused by the SRS WOW HD program on my touch pro 2 as well. AS SOON as I uninstalled this application, restarted, everything was fine again.
I don't know if this will help anybody but if your phone suffers from SOD and you have TMO put it in airplane mode and see if it still does it.
I did that and it never went into SOD so that lead me to believe that the radio was the culprit. before that I tried everything listed. I don't have the 3G Plan so the 3.45.25.14 (T-Mobile) radio is the only one that worked for me.
I have the same problem.. just have installed spb mobile shell with mskip ultimate. I try to unistall all
I have a question: if I choose the 3G only option (WCDMA + UTMS 2100 in Europe) and the signal strength is low there will not be an automatic switch between 3G and 2G am I right? ...and i'm offline then
jabberoo said:
I messed around with the sound app SRS WOW HD for a while to get it work on TP2, with this installed, mine did exactly the same thing.
Sometimes it happened straight away (first sleep), other times it happened a day or so later.
Uninstalled, it did not happen again.
(Not the SIM or Camera for me)
Go figure!
Cheers
Jabberoo
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Jabberoo I can verify that this was caused by the SRS WOW HD program on my touch pro 2 as well. AS SOON as I uninstalled this application, restarted, everything was fine again.
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Confirming this....
I had this issue for a while now...I tried hard resets, ROM flashes etc. It all works fine and was stable until I flash Sps Wow HD (I just realized this). Yesterday I flashed the latest HTC released sense ROM and right now after installing all the softwares I had the SOD again. Fortunately I saw the 2 posts and thought I will give it a try...and guess what?
I uninstalled the Srs Wow HD and phone is back to normal...no issues till now...will report later if I see any.
I am going to tmobile to get the SIM changed anyways hoping that it will fix another issue I am having. Every day I have to turn the airplane mode ON and OFF at least twice to get my data connection back. Mostly after a call and sometimes in random the phone is unable to reconnect to the data, it gives me an error that the epc.tmobile didnt respond or something like that. If any of you know how to fix this issue...plz help
I have been Experiencing this so called "SOD". HTC touch pro 2 sprint. On the 6.5.5 Build 23569 i had MAJOR sod issues. Energyrom , mighty , titanium , you name it. Ive Task 29 and reflashed them all multiple times. Still SOD was there... But i may have found a temp cure for me atleast. This is what i did....
First , i used task29 , next i reflashed the stock 6.1 rom, check for SOD... still had it... i task 29 again. Installed titanium edition , without sense. SOD was cured, phone worked fine, tryed to install sense 2.1, failed, SOD was back. Soo...
Then i task29 again, then repeated task29 a second time at the boot screen.... then i flashed Energyrom GTX themed 21907 build june 27th......Once it was flashed unplugged my USB plug and plugged it into the usb wall plug i have . Installed LUMOS, light sensor still was inactive and no response, could not brighten and still nothing... Installed G-light right after lumos without uninstalling lumos.... Still plugged into the AC wall USB plug....let it sit. Still nothing, couldnt adjust or brighten..... So i task 29 AGAIN... then flashed 21907 build GTX themed again... once flashed, unplugged it & back into wall charger... Installed lumos.... SUDDENLY!!! the sensor worked, and was accepting light AGAIN! ...
So i ran the LUMOS wizard, followed instructions and my phone was SOD FREE!! Let it sit over night, was fine....I wanted to see now if i could overwrite / flash over GTX themed with DiNiK glass cause i liked it better... so i DID NOT USE task29 this time, just reflashed over GTX themed one With DiNiK glass... same build 21907 and followed all my same steps, with wall plug, installed lumos, did the wizard,.... WALAaa.... works still like a charm. Have been using and testing it for 5 days, SOD is gone as far as i know.... ALSO in options, under setting / system / power / batt... i turned off the option to charge it when plugged into PC....Not sure if it helps or not. But Something i did is doing the trick. Seems between the backlight, and something to do with my 2.0 usb cord thats messing it up.
Seems to be cured... Still not sure exactly what fixed my phone. But between all that, IMO i believe installing lumos and glight triggered something also i think not letting it charge thru the PC, and only using a wall plug for charging has something to do with it....Either way . now its back to normal working just great... ONLY running LUMOS cab, and all the games i want. Energyrom Build 21907 DiNiK Glass Themed june 27th.... HOPE this helps!!! Have a wonderful DAY!
I recently updated my TP2 to WM6.5 (from 6.1) and am finding that the unit is not comfortable with displaying the new UI. All menus now appear surrounded by messy line structures which occasionally even leave traces after the menu has gone. I also find that the spacing of items in the new menus is overly-large. Whereas before a menu of five or six items could appear on screen, now only four are visible (landscape mode, 8 in portrait) and it is now necessary to scroll through menus where it wasn't before. Is there anything I can do about this?
Many thanks.
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I recently updated my TP2 to WM6.5 (from 6.1) and am finding that the unit is not comfortable with displaying the new UI. All menus now appear surrounded by messy line structures which occasionally even leave traces after the menu has gone. I also find that the spacing of items in the new menus is overly-large. Whereas before a menu of five or six items could appear on screen, now only four are visible (landscape mode, 8 in portrait) and it is now necessary to scroll through menus where it wasn't before. Is there anything I can do about this?
Many thanks.
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Can you post a screenshot of the graphical corruption you describe?
I might suggest reflashing the upgrade before you get much further, some users have reported that doing so has resolved all kinds of odd behavior after the Tmo 6.5 upgrade.\
However, the resized menus you're talking about just sound like the normal change in 6.5. I think there's cabs around here to revert to the old menu styles, but I'm not sure. The idea of course is they're more finger-friendly this way, but you're dealing with the obvious side-effect of that.
Many thanks. Here's a screenshot as requested.
Hmmm ... cabs which allow me to keep 6.5 yet return to the 6.1 menus? YES PLEASE! If anyone could possibly point me in the right direction...?
Cheers.
AidanBell said:
Many thanks. Here's a screenshot as requested.
Hmmm ... cabs which allow me to keep 6.5 yet return to the 6.1 menus? YES PLEASE! If anyone could possibly point me in the right direction...?
Cheers.
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Ouch, that's pretty ugly! Yes I would start with at least a hard reset, but really I'd suggest just reflashing the upgrade, and see if that makes any difference.
Now I think I've seen cabs for that (the older, or at least smaller, style of WM menus), if not a reg entry...but I honestly can't recall or find where at the moment
EDIT: one more quick question- what carrier are you with?
Thanks for the advice. I guess that will be my best course of action, unless I can track down a menu-changing cab or reg tweak, which would then very possibly negate needing to do a hard reset or flash. I'll give it a while and see if anybody else can perhaps help with such a cab first.
Cheers.
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I think there's cabs around here to revert to the old menu styles, but I'm not sure.
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REALLY!?? WHERE???
Please, I'd give my first born if I had one, I HATE the 6.5 menus, the old ones were friendly enough.
I had the same issue as the OP when i updated to 6.5 ...
Graphical anomolies that looked just like his, and it wasn't just menus getting frozen, it was programs and switching tabs and going from one text to another, switching e-mails...
Perhaps the issue with 6.5 is the graphics driver??
- Mark
Guys just do a hard reset and let everything run its corse. 9 times out of 10 this is the biggest issue with flashing a new rom. It's always best that after you flash your phone you do at least one or two hard resets to set all the files and reg entries where they are supposed to be... why? I have no idea but I know when I flash I always do a hard reset and never seem to have the issues others do.
I tried, Aaron, I tried! I bit the bullet and did a hard reset, then re-flashed the 6.5 update and then did another hard reset. And when it was all done the menus were perfect and everything was the way it's meant to be ... ... ... for about 10 minutes! But then from one moment to the next it was back to how it was before. Grrrrr!
AidanBell said:
I tried, Aaron, I tried! I bit the bullet and did a hard reset, then re-flashed the 6.5 update and then did another hard reset. And when it was all done the menus were perfect and everything was the way it's meant to be ... ... ... for about 10 minutes! But then from one moment to the next it was back to how it was before. Grrrrr!
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Does your phone feel noticibly warmer after running for that amount of time?
Yes! Absolutely. After half an hour or so of using TomTom - constant screen on - it feels only a little short of worryingly hot.
AidanBell said:
Yes! Absolutely. After half an hour or so of using TomTom - constant screen on - it feels only a little short of worryingly hot.
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I see...well the reason I ask is because in regular PC's, graphical corruption like that is usually caused by either driver problems, or heat issues...when the processing chips get too warm, they can start to display all sorts of weird things.
I don't know how to eliminate drivers as the cause in this case, other than the fact the issue seems fairly isolated, if there were driver problems we'd probably see a lot more people with this issue.
As for the heat issue, I can offer this experiment for now:
Get a ziplock bag (or something else that won't leak), and put some ice cubes in it...when you've got the phone working where you don't see the issue at first, when you first turn it on, lay it on the bag of ice and let it sit there for a bit while you operate it as you normally would...see if the graphics still go wonky after a while, or if that eliminates it or at least delays it.
EDIT: Yes, it would be a good idea to wrap the bag or whatever with a cloth (shirt, whatever) as well, to keep possible condensation away from the phone. Obviously the point is to keep the phone extra cool for this test, so just use common sense when working out how you prefer to do that.
Make sure you wrap that ice bag in some sort of cloth to absorb the condensation, or you will have a waterlogged rhodium. Even if you were to save a water damaged phone and get it working again, the phone's life would be greatly diminished due to oxidation of components.
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Make sure you wrap that ice bag in some sort of cloth to absorb the condensation, or you will have a waterlogged rhodium. Even if you were to save a water damaged phone and get it working again, the phone's life would be greatly diminished due to oxidation of components.
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Yes, good point..."problem solving" trumped "think it all the way through" there for a min lol. Thanks Hamsteriel, post updated.
AidanBell said:
Yes! Absolutely. After half an hour or so of using TomTom - constant screen on - it feels only a little short of worryingly hot.
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Well that's normal. The reason your phone is warm after using tomtom with the screen on for 30 minutes is because the gps is active AND the screen is on so the phone is going under some pretty heavy usage.
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I see...well the reason I ask is because in regular PC's, graphical corruption like that is usually caused by either driver problems, or heat issues...when the processing chips get too warm, they can start to display all sorts of weird things.
I don't know how to eliminate drivers as the cause in this case, other than the fact the issue seems fairly isolated, if there were driver problems we'd probably see a lot more people with this issue.
As for the heat issue, I can offer this experiment for now:
Get a ziplock bag (or something else that won't leak), and put some ice cubes in it...when you've got the phone working where you don't see the issue at first, when you first turn it on, lay it on the bag of ice and let it sit there for a bit while you operate it as you normally would...see if the graphics still go wonky after a while, or if that eliminates it or at least delays it.
EDIT: Yes, it would be a good idea to wrap the bag or whatever with a cloth (shirt, whatever) as well, to keep possible condensation away from the phone. Obviously the point is to keep the phone extra cool for this test, so just use common sense when working out how you prefer to do that.
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Even after reflashing the phone like he said he did that its a little more then that and it's likely hardware..... ie.. warranty issue with HTC. Go to your carrier and show them the phone. They'll do one of two things, the first give you a new phone on the spot.. the second fill out a form and have it so you are shipped a new phone, when the new phone comes you use the prepaid packaging HTC sends with their warranty phones and put your own one in. If you have flashed a custom rom you have to remember to put back your stock rom and get rid of the HardSPL
I must agree with Aaron. I don't consider overheating when using TomTom to be an issue.
I'm afraid you misunderstood my situation Sirphunkee. The display problem is permanent, allways there. It was only "not there" for about 10 minutes after I did the re-flash and hard re-set, since when it's been permanent again. I don't believe I have an over-heating issue, and I can't see how the menu problem could be heat-related, since it's there 100% of the time, even when the unit is stone cold.
If only someone ... anyone! ... could come up with the link to the cab or reg-tweak that returns WM 6.5 to the 6.1 menus, not only would that very possibly solve my problem but would also return me to the much, much better menus.
I think I've discovered what my problem is. I can't give details, but I think it's the "Winterface" UI that I am using. Just now I had cause to replace all the Winterface files, and blow me, suddenly my menus are fine again! That was two minutes ago, so it remains to be seen how long this will last!
UPDATE:
OK, here's the latest: unfortunately within minutes the menus were bad again. I've now updated to the latest version of Winterface, however that hasn't solved the issue. Although the obvious answer would be to change my UI, I am extremely loath to do that as I'm very used to and very keen on Winterface, so I'd like to first try to tackle repairing the issue. Now that we know that Winterface is behind the problem, can anyone offer any suggestions how to address and repair?
Incidentally, I can confirm that it is Winterface that's causing the menu problem. In between uninstalling and reinstalling the two versions of Winterface I played extensively with the device and all the menus were normal.
Have you tried downgrading the rom to 6.1 again to see if the problem persists? And have you searched here ------> Windows Mobile Development and Hacking Specifically the "Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General" Forum?
You're odds of finding the answer will probably drastically increase by doing a search for your answer there. I swear I saw a thread once in there about getting 6.5 menu's on 6.1 Although I dont recall if it worked the other way around.
Hey all,
I have owned my Tilt 2 for a little over 6 months now and have seemed to have problems with it since day one. Its a little hard to describe the exact issue but I will do My Best.
First of all, I am currently Using the Latest Energy Rom for the Phone from xda developers. I have installed both hot Fixes on my Phone from HTC and I do a hard reset every time I upgrade my rom.
This is a problem I have had since getting the phone and seemed to be present in the Stock Rom that came from ATT so I am not convinced that it is a software problem, but I thought I would get some opinions here first. My Concern is that the phone itself has issues and I may be out of luck because I have had the phone and dealt with the issues for so long.
So, My Biggest problem is one with Freezing. I have to reset my phone at least 5-10 times a day. I always have. Sometimes I even have to remove the battery to get the phone to reset. I do quite a bit of Texting with my phone and the freezing almost always seems to happen after I have sent a text and am trying to get back to the Home/Today Screen. The Phone just sits there, I can hit the end call button as much as I want and it will not go back to the home screen. The Phone is not completely locked tho because most of the time the Calling features still work, and I can even hit the windows button and get into the menu where I can get to task manager or a software reset button. If I try to hit the home Icon tho nothing seems to happen. The Phone just sits there and I have to reset it to get it working again.
This is frustrating me because the phone is not actually frozen, it seem to be stuck thinking but will never come back to life. When the phone works, its works great and does everything I need it to do. The Constant freezing and resets are driving me crazy. Any help or suggestions would be appreciated. I am pretty tech savy and have been installing roms on my phones for a couple years now. Please Help before I toss this thing out the window.
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Hey all,
I have owned my Tilt 2 for a little over 6 months now and have seemed to have problems with it since day one. Its a little hard to describe the exact issue but I will do My Best.
First of all, I am currently Using the Latest Energy Rom for the Phone from xda developers. I have installed both hot Fixes on my Phone from HTC and I do a hard reset every time I upgrade my rom.
This is a problem I have had since getting the phone and seemed to be present in the Stock Rom that came from ATT so I am not convinced that it is a software problem, but I thought I would get some opinions here first. My Concern is that the phone itself has issues and I may be out of luck because I have had the phone and dealt with the issues for so long.
So, My Biggest problem is one with Freezing. I have to reset my phone at least 5-10 times a day. I always have. Sometimes I even have to remove the battery to get the phone to reset. I do quite a bit of Texting with my phone and the freezing almost always seems to happen after I have sent a text and am trying to get back to the Home/Today Screen. The Phone just sits there, I can hit the end call button as much as I want and it will not go back to the home screen. The Phone is not completely locked tho because most of the time the Calling features still work, and I can even hit the windows button and get into the menu where I can get to task manager or a software reset button. If I try to hit the home Icon tho nothing seems to happen. The Phone just sits there and I have to reset it to get it working again.
This is frustrating me because the phone is not actually frozen, it seem to be stuck thinking but will never come back to life. When the phone works, its works great and does everything I need it to do. The Constant freezing and resets are driving me crazy. Any help or suggestions would be appreciated. I am pretty tech savy and have been installing roms on my phones for a couple years now. Please Help before I toss this thing out the window.
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It is usually not desired to post the same information twice on different forums. The NRG thread has some responses to THIS EXACT POST that was made there. I know that cut-n-paste is easy, but avoid the temptation.
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It is usually not desired to post the same information twice on different forums. The NRG thread has some responses to THIS EXACT POST that was made there. I know that cut-n-paste is easy, but avoid the temptation.
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Will Do, I was just not sure where this questions belonged as I am unclear as to whether this is an NRG issue or a Phone Issue.
I have not had this experience, but I have read a lot of posts in the tilt forums where people complain of slow/laggy behavior using the htc messagaing tabs... I wanted to avoid that, so I just mapped my push-to-talk button to the windows mobile messaging client and use it. You might try doing that, if the HTC is what you are using now...
Off subject (new to this) but you mention "tilt forums" How do I find these s for my tilt phone? Looking for new apps also... I'm old
I'm a first time poster. I have searched the Q&A section a few number of pages about my problem and I can't find anything.
My phone likes to press a certain area of the touch screen without me touching it at all. I don't really know what else to call it except "ghost inputing". Sometimes when I go to input text or when I'm at the home screen, it decides to go crazy. If I'm typing up a text message, if in portrait, my phone likes to type Q's even when I definitely don't want to. If I'm in landscape, a bunch of spaces and period is what it likes to press. If I'm at the home screen, the phone likes to pick up an app or open it.
It gets pretty annoying, especially when I'm just trying to reply to someones message. My only temporary way of fixing it was to turn on and off the screen. Sometimes it takes awhile.
I have tried flashing a stock 1.47 ota rom but it didn't really help, actually made it worse. Touch screen responsiveness dropped significantly, so i flashed back down to like 1.32 (responsiveness came back).
I got my phone the day it was released, so I don't even know if I can bring it back to Best Buy or not. Any kind of suggestion would be great... this problem can really bring my spirits down sometimes, especially when I'm showing off my phone to random people when they ask me. Kinda embarrassing to have my phone freak out when it's supposed to be a high end device....
Sounds like a warranty thing. I'd hit up htc.
Sent from my EVO from the Apple Store.
Im having the same problem making my phone useless :/
I have been trying to bring this issue to light for sometime!!
I have a topic on it already if you guys want to add to it but the end result for me right now is trying to get the phone exchanged..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=741242
I have had the same problem.
Turning the screen on and off sometimes makes it go away. It seems like it started when I rooted (simple 3 click). Not positive about that though.
I'm now running Fresh 3.1.0.1 and it is better.
-Steve
svennn said:
I have had the same problem.
Turning the screen on and off sometimes makes it go away. It seems like it started when I rooted (simple 3 click). Not positive about that though.
I'm now running Fresh 3.1.0.1 and it is better.
-Steve
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Try running some of the older ROM's not based off the .47 OTA or the newer froyo and its gone completely for me..
So I am hoping someone with some real hardware/software knowledge can provide some input...
I recently received my warranty replacement unit because of unresponsive touch and phantom touches. My new unit seems to work perfectly, except now every 10 to 20 touches, the touch will register, but the touch sound "click" doesn't play (if I put my ear close to the speaker, I can hear the speaker activating though). Repeated touches (like repeatedly pressing back) won't reproduce the problem, but more random timing and touches (like in regular use or typing) will. I'm wondering if anyone thinks this is a hardware issue, or some component of the stock software that wouldn't have been overwritten between the update to JSS15Q, and then to JSS15R (it happens in all three versions).
Think I should go for another replacement? Or do you think I should root and unlock, and see if a full installation of a ROM fixes it. It's definitely a sign that something is wrong and it's annoying, I just can't figure out if it's software or hardware related. I'm definitely not going to just ignore it.
(SIDE STORY: When I called nexus help for my first unit, the guy was so helpful and took my word that I had already tried factory resets, and set me up for an RMA. My call on this unit, the woman told me to reboot and toggle touch sounds, and kind of rudely insisted that I was on 4.3 and that Build Version (e.g. JSS15R) had nothing to do with software!! :what: She then told me she'd send me an email with more troubleshooting steps, which never came. I had figured I'd wait for the email, so that I had her name for my next call. Totally unacceptable.)
You come off as just looking for a reason to complain at this point, there doesn't seem to be any real problem with your device other than you being overly picky
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You're completely right. I was so delighted when I managed to find something wrong with my new tablet...
Seriously? You come off as just a worthless ass of a poster at this point. The problem is there, and can be consistently reproduced. I press home and it clicks, and five seconds later I press home and it doesn't click. Your opinion on whether this is a "real problem" or me being overly "picky" is completely irrelevant. It is most certainly real and not normal, and indicates either some software or driver bug on my device, or a strange hardware malfunction. My previous unit (which had very real problems) did not have this problem.
I hope I speak for others here, when I tell you to **** off unless you have something worthwhile to contribute. Just because you don't think something is important, annoying, significant, etc. doesn't make it any less so for someone else.
Do you have this issue with SwiftKey?
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Yeah. It's actually everywhere throughout the OS. System settings, stock launcher, Nova launcher, Swiftkey, AOSP keyboard, etc.
I have the opposite problem as you. When muted, every 20 or 30 taps I will get a 'pop' from the speakers, similar to the sound of plugging a guitar into an amp when it's on. Pretty bloody annoying, but I don't want to risk returning it for receiving a unit with worse problems.
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I have the opposite problem as you. When muted, every 20 or 30 taps I will get a 'pop' from the speakers, similar to the sound of plugging a guitar into an amp when it's on. Pretty bloody annoying, but I don't want to risk returning it for receiving a unit with worse problems.
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Exactly my thoughts on going through another RMA. But I do feel that it's reasonable to expect a properly functioning tablet on our parts. What you're experiencing is strange. I can tell you that on my Optimus G, when muted, I can hear a faint speaker "activation". Sounds like maybe yours is a hardware issue. Are you stock, or have you tried flashing other ROMs?
Well, I installed CM10.2 last night, and the problem went away. Maybe you might want to try CM, or even just unlocking and reflashing stock JSS15R. You might get lucky with your popping noises.
FYI: I've seen this on multiple tablets (TF101, GTab, Nooks, 2012N7, 2013N7) with different customed ROMs.
So, I wouldn't blame it specially on the Tab. In fact, I see this issue less often on the 2013N7. It usually happens
after I just freshly loaded a new ROM.
spackmanbr said:
Well, I installed CM10.2 last night, and the problem went away. Maybe you might want to try CM, or even just unlocking and reflashing stock JSS15R. You might get lucky with your popping noises.
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So a couple of nights ago, I decided to try disabling touch sounds in settings. Since doing that I haven't heard a single pop from the speakers. Looks like it was either the touch sounds 'leaking' or the speakers popping from being activated, which they do even when muted (the mute being software)
I'm quite happy with this fix, since the tablet is muted 99.5% of the time, and I don't care for the touch sounds anyway.
Hi Folk's,
Sorry to drag up an old post, but I've noticed my N7 shows this behaviour on KitKat as well.
It misses the touch sound if you pause for about 5 secs during input. Does it every time and it's very annoying. I've tried a couple of different KK roms and it does the same on all of them.
Just tried going back to CM10.2 (JB 4.3) and it works fine!
Does anyone know the cure for this, apart from going back to JB, please? Would really like to be running KK, but this bug is bugging me!
Thanks for any info.
Cheers
I have bought one nexus 7 2013 32gb recently and im experiente this strange beahvior ...im on lolipop 5.1.1! What i have to do to solucionate?
Petermira said:
I have bought one nexus 7 2013 32gb recently and im experiente this strange beahvior ...im on lolipop 5.1.1! What i have to do to solucionate?
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@Petermira @Xi2or @spackmanbr
I have this same behavior on a stock 4.4.2 S3.
After 5 seconds, if I click anything UI (keyboard, Soft buttons, shortcuts, toggles) there is no sound. If I quickly click again and keep clicking, the sounds work as normal. It's definitely ROM related but is there a fix???
UPDATE: Issue does not happen with headphones plugged in. STRANGE!!!
UPDATE: Issue does not happen if I keep a song playing in Power Amp or similar.
Affected UI items include:
- keyboard
- shortcuts
- toggles
- capacitive buttons
- dialer pad
- etc.