There's a lot of development at XDA, but often hard to get a snapshot of what is happening all over the site. Since this topic covers multiple phones, and is about modifying the whole user interface of the phones, it seems right to post it here. I would like to see more energy put into User Experience design -- and general usability -- as opposed to just replicating what's out there.
For me, all the effort that's been spent on replicating the Windows 6.5 interface is such an un-leveraged, fairly wasteful use of time and energy -- other than for decoration purposes so someone can say "I've got the invisible honeycomb look!". ( Microsoft's CEO Ballmer himself, as most industry analysts, have seen it as a lame band-aid for Microsoft to APPEAR to be innovating after apple kicked its ass. This is why what should have been a HUGE marketing & branding campaign, heralding WINDOWS PHONE as the new brand for Windows Mobile as instead been fairly low-key. Because the phones are all out there already from HTC, etc, but they're running the ugly, left-in-the-dust 6.5 interface. Ballmer acknowleged WindowsMobile 7.0 should be out -- and THAT could be a game changer. It will for sure have elements of the Zune HD interface, which is following the interface "family" (or eco-system -- new word of the year) of Windows 7.0 desktop user experience )
I'd like to see what user interface designers think about all of this.
It seems to me that the world of touchscreen phones has, essentially, four navigation schemes:
(1) Apple iphone is a grid-based icon system, which "sells" the idea of specialty apps -- as replacements for 90% of them which could be web pages displaying through a decent mobile browser.
(2) Palm's Web OS, which essentially uses a full screen version of Apple's own "coverflow" display system -- providing a context-view of what else is nearby the main window you're working with.
(3) Android's widget-based system -- which I view as enabling unrestricted usage of the entire screen, to be adapted into custom navigation schemes and display systems for applets & widgets.
(4) WM's old-fashioned pull-down menu, click-through to tiny-type interface screens, all inconsistent from one another, forming a hodge-podge stick and glue user experience. It just barely gets you where you need to go.
(I know all of these can be, and should be, disputed. But it's just to set the stage for: what can we do on HTC phones that provides flexible and rapid-access interfaces for the functions people use most).
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So here are some examples:
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This is the interface for a new WindowsXP phone made in China. I saw this today on GIZMODO:
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The above XP phone interface is not for Windows Mobile, but for fully functional Windows XP OS. So we see more convergence of platforms and devices. But there are some resemblances to some other schemes emerging, some of which we see at XDA:
For example:
1. FEWidgets Ultimate 1.0b12 , screenshots below:
It's nice to see some original thinking going on here, vs just accepting TouchFlo 3 as a great interface just because it's shipping on so many phones.
2. HTC's Hero theme transformed people's view of the possibilities for Android OS ...
To me, android's initial round of wallpaper schemes made the whole UI appear lifeless and ugly, like some bad imitation Salvador Dali painting. But HTC's Hero showed how some simple graphical elements could transform the overall appearance of Android -- which I am sure made Android's makers very happy, since they built something with an open architecture. (I want to save Sense UI for separate discussion)
3. ANDROKKID (from XDA's iFonz developer)
Written in dot net, this is the newest interface scheme from "simo" of simosoftprojects.com. He developed about 4 iterations of the iFonz interface over a two-year period before putting it to bed earlier this year in favor of the more Android-like "Anrokkid". Once simo moved away from ifonz (icon grid) and towards androkkid, the "radical change" was making the whole screen addressable in terms of navigation and display elements, and open-source widgets.
Now that we see the Hero Theme for Androkkid, to me this look also demonstrates the greater power available to revamp the entire look of Androkkid... more than just dragging around some widgets on a phone desktop.
Some emerging examples:
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Would love to get some comments -- and some posts of other current interface schemes being developed here at XDA. thanks!
(Mods -- if this thread belongs elsewhere, would you please move it and PM me so that I understand where and why. thank you)
Please tell me hot upgrade above mentioned very damn good products on my i780....?
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Please tell me hot upgrade above mentioned very damn good products on my i780....?
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Sorry I don't know what the i780 is ... I probably should, but I don't. Is it an HTC phone?
I think the best investment of time right now is ANDROKKID -- because I read recently that the developer of FEWidgets has less time to move along his excellent UI ....
Androkkid thread is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=540428
You have to invest time to go read and follow its instructions. People are very helpful in the thread. The main thing you may want to know is that Androkkid is an application that installs with a .cab file. It has never been cooked into a ROM, as far as I know. Because it is unnecessary to do so.
It requires Microsoft .net compact framework.
Samsung i780..now I hv WM 6.5 in it.
Please let me know how can you help me out.
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Samsung i780..now I hv WM 6.5 in it.
Please let me know how can you help me out.
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It's very simple:
Go to the link for the thread I listed above -- the official ANDROKKID thread, and post there: "How do I install Androkkid on my Samsung 1780 running WM 6.5 ?"
Seriously, I cannot help you. Only they can. good luck.
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Hey all
I have an idea for a Vista skin, but I haven't got the skills needed to code it myself.
I therefore need a coder. I've made all the graphics needed - please see below!
Look here for my preview:
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As stated before, I've recreated Vistas look from the ground and up, using Photoshop. Therefore, all elements are ready for slicing and implementing!
// PREHISTORY //
I saw the skin "VistaMaximus" for iPhone, and thought that we could use something similiar for our Windows Mobile devices. The Vista skins I found for the HTC Touch HD were ok, but not exactly what I was looking. And I'd be damned if some iPhone-teenager shows up with a fancier Windows Vista skin, than my Windows Mobile phone can't best!!
// I TRIED...//
Well, the MaxTTM can do a LOT, so I gave it a try. However, it can't do nearly enough to make this skin (or I'm just a dork using it).
I'm experienced in making homescreens for the Windows Mobile 2003/2005 devices (coding my own XML-files from the ground), but I have no idea how to hack the TouchFlo3D interface, which this is propably all about...
// FUNCTIONS //
=> Having been inspired by the iPhone, the 3 dots in the bottom, indicates a "finger swipe"-navigation. It should lead to icon pages for the programs you have installed.
- This isn't the most important, as applications could be accessed from the windows button.
=> Implementing weatherapp and a note taking app on the frontpage is pretty crucial.
=> The calender on the frontpage should be removed automatically, if no events occurs on this day or the next day (smiliar to stock skin behavior).
// MY THOUGHS ABOUT THE CODING //
One could do this skin as a program, like the iPhone skin for Windows Mobile, iFonz/iFonz2. However, this will propably result in a very slow and sluggish performance?
I don't know too much about this however.
// Please help me out here... //
If anyone here's got the needed coding skills and want to help me with this skin, please PM me!
I will keep this thread updated on the status of this skin.
Reserved for future usage.
jeez looks promising
will be a must if it is finally released
maybe would of been better trying to go with windows 7 skin and not vista...
this looks very good...I hope you will make this
Thanks - A coder still haven't looked at this, unfortunately...
- Regarding a Windows 7 skin - sure, when the Vista one is done... For now, I like the Vista skin the most, because functionality and looks works very nice with the HD screen.
jakobdam said:
Thanks - A coder still haven't looked at this, unfortunately...
- Regarding a Windows 7 skin - sure, when the Vista one is done... For now, I like the Vista skin the most, because functionality and looks works very nice with the HD screen.
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All of what you have In mind can be done with Wisbar Advance Desktop 2 over at Lakeridge http://www.lakeridgesoftware.com/forum/index.php
Thanks - yeah, I'm currently googling my keyboard keyless, and I found Wisbar Desktop 2 an hour ago.
I'm still investigating the hows - as far as I can see; if I make a skin using it, the skin will require the users to also install Wisbar Desktop 2 - and to eventually buy it (in order to use the WAD2-files)? Is that correct understood?
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Thanks - yeah, I'm currently googling my keyboard keyless, and I found Wisbar Desktop 2 an hour ago.
I'm still investigating the hows - as far as I can see; if I make a skin using it, the skin will require the users to also install Wisbar Desktop 2 - and to eventually buy it (in order to use the WAD2-files)? Is that correct understood?
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Yes thats correct, I used to use it till I came over to TouchFLO but from what your after it's the only way I can see it could be done. Other than that your asking for a complete OS rebuild.
*sigh*, whatever happened to the good old WM5/2003 days, when we could make our own homescreens by just making an XML-file and some pics?
These overlay solutions - WD2, SPB MS2 etc. - are bound to be damn slow, compared to if it was possible to do themes that one could choose instead of TF3D.
Really good, I love your note in the preview picture about Piano lesson
Anyway, hope you will make it
Fantastic!!! I wish, I could help you...
Can't wait!!!
Greets and best wishes
Damn, I've tried for days now, to find a developer suite to make this skin. I really want it, and I've realized, that I'll have to program it myself.
But first of all, I need a coding environment. Visual Studio is too expensive, and the free Express doesn't support Windows Mobile.
So, anyone have suggestions what to do?
I know there's a great number of people out there that does not like the overall look of the WP7 UI. With this poll I wanna know how many people doesn't like the WP7 look.
I will vote for "SIMPLE" ...
Yeah, it is not ugly, because I like it.
And it is not beautiful, because ... it is not.
But, it is simple and clean.
i voted for beautiful, because there is not an "OK" option.
its not ugly, but not perfect, thats why they should add the possibility for custom UI's.
lets hope that our opinions on this poll reach microsoft..
you should have an option for "gets the job done-not ugly nor beautiful!"
I-NEED-TEH-COLORZ
Seriously, those black-white or white-black or black-blue and similar are very well working, but not eyecandy as I like (I was editing 4 hours icons in Manila rather than using stock gray ones!)
Some nice orange and (TMobile branded WP7 phone? PINK! ) other colors would be better and IMHO better readable than that blue.
WM6.5.x or more than that the abandoned photon, rebuilt with silverlight and XNA support would have been my best preference.
Not the present W(I)Phone.
HTC has very gorgeous design. They really invested a lot of time making different animations, especially weather.
rosoft on the other hand choose very different approach
MAKING OS LOOK UNFINISHED. I GOT A FEELING THAT DESIGNERS COULDNT CHANGE THE FONT TO FIT THE SCREEN
they also didn't capitalize any words like the month or the day
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In my opinion the core of the OS looks better; menus, etc. But the App menu and Home screen looks ugly.
HTC made WM look a lot better with sense but It'll be no longer needed. I like the new UI and won't mind throwing my sense away to get it. Long as I can see the weather, time, missed calls, and messages all at the same time it's a win for me.
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HTC made WM look a lot better with sense but I'll be no longer needed. I like the new UI and won't mind throwing my sense away to get it.
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Same here. In addition, 2K files in LUA eek, without APIs, no hooks or placeholders for anything third-party/additional isn't the right way to do homescreen UI. I loved to use Sense because it was better than anything available but it sucked in more than one way.
Windows Phone 7 is the most stupid system I have ever seen !
Is Microsoft is so stupid ? I wonder !
-No Support for any devices before !
-No Multitasking ! after multitasking was the mark of Microsoft !
-No Copy... Cut... Paste ! What more ? maybe no writing on the future !
-No UI Customization from companies ! They want you to stuck on the stupid UI which it doesn't show the full name of menu ! for God sake tell me what is the beauty of menu you can't see the full name of it ? what a Smart !
The World is going to forward and Microsoft is going to dark ages !
Great UI. But I don't like the home screen. Its so ... iphonish. No eyecandies, straight on to functions. Navigating through the menus looks better (since its more of zune os)
I really believe the Zune OS being retrofited for smart phones is a waste of time. After the phones begin to roll out and people actually get hands on experience and the hype fades. This entire concept will go down in flames. Windows Phone 7 Series can no longer be classified as a smart phone, they will simply be mutimedia phones. What this boils down to is Microsoft using the Zune OS as a way to generate more revenue through Zune Pass.
I go to a store and buy music on CD with high quality audio then convert to a high quality mp3 and then put it on my phone. I don't buy crappy low quality mp3's from Zune or any other source.
Guess I'll be jumping ship to Android until Microsoft gets it head out of the sand.
i voted beautiful but only cuz i dont think its ugly, but its not beautiful either you should have added another option
they should have countinued devoloping into titanum
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Windows Phone 7 is the most stupid system I have ever seen !
Is Microsoft is so stupid ? I wonder !
-No Support for any devices before !
-No Multitasking ! after multitasking was the mark of Microsoft !
-No Copy... Cut... Paste ! What more ? maybe no writing on the future !
-No UI Customization from companies ! They want you to stuck on the stupid UI which it doesn't show the full name of menu ! for God sake tell me what is the beauty of menu you can't see the full name of it ? what a Smart !
The World is going to forward and Microsoft is going to dark ages !
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and WP7 UI is a huge **** for me!
For all the fawning over the UI, i feel like I am in the minority saying this, but I think the looks are some of the worst I have ever seen.
Aside from the entire thing lacking any personality (plain, borring squares), I cannot stand how the layout scrolls over one or more pages. I can't believe that nobody else minds the text being unreadable as it falls off the edge or the bottom of the page, but it drives me batty.
Sure, 6.5 really does have its flaws; but it also really feels like what a good PDA device should feel like - a miniaturized computer. Just from looks alone, i know that any old 6.5 (or 6.1) device i have kicking around will be infinitely more productive that this new 7 junk...
I would have voted beautiful, but I chose beatiful instead since beautiful wasn't a choice
I love the way the UI uses lots of big-sized words instead of icons/symbols. I love the big and active tiles constantly providing information. The big tiles should be an easier target to touch while on the go also. The WP7 UI kind of reminds me of Windows Media Center on the desktop. I don't really care for the light blue/green, but I'm sure I'll be able to change it to something sexier.
I've used the Sense Leo ROM on my TP2 and while sense is very pretty looking, I find it to not be very productive. I have to do too much pressing and sliding to get to what I want to get to. I ended up going back to the regular Titanium interface after about a month just so my phone use could be more efficient. I like being able to get to different parts of my phone quickly. All the WP7 UI needs is some transparency and animated backgrounds that change during the day. Even the Sense weather animations would be cool.
mostafa0007 said:
Windows Phone 7 is the most stupid system I have ever seen !
Is Microsoft is so stupid ? I wonder !
-No Support for any devices before !
-No Multitasking ! after multitasking was the mark of Microsoft !
-No Copy... Cut... Paste ! What more ? maybe no writing on the future !
-No UI Customization from companies ! They want you to stuck on the stupid UI which it doesn't show the full name of menu ! for God sake tell me what is the beauty of menu you can't see the full name of it ? what a Smart !
The World is going to forward and Microsoft is going to dark ages !
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I liked the OS as such, but with these limitations that even the normal consumer uses, I have a new landscape home page for the WP7...the donkey tiles....
It has no landscape mode for the home screen!! OMG one more no-go for me.
Anyway, it looks good but it doesn't work cause it's crippled like a stupid iPhone.
Omnimo: desktop Windows given fashion makeover with Phone 7 Series flair
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Can't wait for Windows Phone 7 Series, but can't hack the emulator, either? Don't lose hope, Windows junkies -- you can still bring some semblance of WP7S order into your life with this Metro UI-inspired desktop HUD. Based on the open-source desktop customization platform Rainmeter, the "Omnimo UI" will overlay your desktop with a minimalist, tiled interface not unlike the one you've been drooling over for weeks, with live hooks into many useful services (including Gmail, iTunes, Steam, Twitter and SpeedFan) as well as the usual widgets and a host of program shortcuts. The best news of all? It's available now for all versions of Windows since XP, completely free of charge; simply follow the source links or flit over to Lifehacker, where good folks will teach you how it's done.
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How-To Make Your Windows 7 Desktop Look Just Like Windows 7 Phone with Rainmeter
If you haven’t heard of Rainmeter, it’s a popular freeware that enables some of the rich customization on your Windows desktop.
This is the tool that can push the desktop customization to the maximum. If you are really interested, be sure to check out their documentation first, as they have a nice explanation on what the whole product is about, and beginner guide for you to get started.
Yes, you can use Rainmeter to create your very own customized Windows Desktop.
Some basic customizations you can do with Rainmeter are
•add different skins;
•perfectly styled widgets, e.g. CPU, RAM, Network monitor, one click music player, RSS feeds, etc. on your desktop.
Although, it may sounds very much the same as the default Windows gadgets and sidebar, there are a fundamental differences:
1.You can use Rainmeter on Windows XP, as well as on Vista and 7.
2.You can have a totally different look for the widgets on every theme.
3.You can create your own widgets/themes/skins.
This is what the finished desktop looks like. Lets begin customizing your Windows 7 desktop and make it looks and feels like the Windows 7 Phone running on your desktop.
First, download and install the Rainmeter, be sure to download the right version if you are running on a 64-bit edition.
Next, download the additional Omnimo UI. This is the skin for Windows 7 Phone which you need to have to make it look like the picture above.
Run the Rainmeter first before doing anything, which creates the default directory for skins, themes, and backup. Do not run the Omnimo UI if you have never run Rainmeter before.
Now, exit the Rainmeter and launch the Omnimo UI Rainstaller.
Choose Express Install if you don’t want to change any default directory settings.
Once you’ve done this, you should now see Rainmeter launch with the newly added Theme called Omnimo UI. And this is exactly what you see on the first screen shoot.
You can now customize, to show which widgets, feed URL, clocks, weather, etc. you would like to have on the desktop.
Finally, enjoy your Windows 7 Phone theme on your Windows 7 Desktop
for download direct links:
Download Rainmeter from googlecode
Installer Version Rainmeter 1.1 - (32bit) - (64bit)
Download Omnimo UI here
Using it on my laptop at uni, looks pretty cool esp with the supplied bridge wallpaper
Do any of you know how to change the icons in the program menu of Omnimo?
Theres a folder asocciated with that panel, if you open it up you'll find a bunch of icons you can use, but theres not many
its awsome looking ,but I have noticed it drains the battery on my laptop .. not worth to be kept for me .
thanks
Can’t wait for Windows Phone 7 Series, but can’t hack the emulator, either? Don’t lose hope, Windows junkies you can still bring some semblance of WP7S order into your life with this Metro UI inspired desktop HUD. Based on the open source desktop customization platform Rainmeter, the “Omnimo UI” will overlay your desktop with a minimalist, tiled interface not unlike the one you’ve been drooling over for weeks, with live hooks into many useful services (including Gmail, iTunes, Steam, Twitter and SpeedFan) as well as the usual widgets and a host of program shortcuts. The best news of all? It’s available now for all versions of Windows since XP, completely free of charge; simply follow the source links or flit over to Lifehacker, where good folks will teach you how it’s done.
As seen here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=650393 theres a game that people have downloaded that is infected with a trojan that calls out to expensive international numbers at midnight,
I can imagine the guys at Gizmodo/Engadget etc having a field day with WM Trojan racks up bills etc. and the bad press it brings to Windows Mobile
Is this a case for WP7 and its Silverlight/XNA written apps only and apps that can be withdrawn from a single market place instead of dodgy copies hitting numberous websites?
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Is this a case for WP7 and its Silverlight/XNA written apps only and apps that can be withdrawn from a single market place instead of dodgy copies hitting numberous websites?
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You realize of course that your [thread] title doesn't match the contents of the thread at all?
Your title purports to suggest sandboxing and managed code, which are both good ideas, and then in the thread itself you talk about restricting the APIs available on the platform to Silverlight/XNA and restricting distributing to the Marketplace, which is a terrible idea.
"Managed code" -- in case you weren't aware -- is terminology created by Microsoft for code that interacts exclusively with the CLR.
BUT IN CASE YOU DON'T KNOW, P/INVOKE IS PART OF THE CLR, SO "MANAGED CODE" CAN STILL ACCESS NATIVE APIS!
"Sandboxing" can refer to a broad range of concepts, all of which are relatively good ideas (although some are more expensive in terms of overhead than others).
I think the best thing that Microsoft could do to prevent attacks like this -- rather than locking down their whole OS like Apple-wannabes -- is to implement the multi-user paradigm of Windows NT6.x and/or Linux on their phone OS.
See the problem -- as far as I can tell -- is that Windows CE is a single-user operating system. Much like Windows 9.x. Which means that processes only run in one context: Administrator.
So any process that is running on your Windows CE device, has full access and control of the device/operating system. This is why you experience so many lock-ups/crashes on CE-based devices.
In a modern multi-user operating system, processes can run in one of two contexts: User or Administrator. The User context has no access to the system itself -- it is effectively sandboxed. It can still wreak havoc in many ways, but it cannot bring down the operating system because it doesn't have the privledges to access the APIs et cetera that it would need to do so. The Administrator context still exists, and the user chooses to elevate processes there when the need arises -- this is what UAC, runas, su, and sudo are for in Windows/Linux.
These are the devices that should be implemented on a phone OS, not draconian lock-in schemes that turn a phone OS into a phone appliance.
Well, actually making phone calls should never prompt for elevated permissions as far as I am concerned.
In the case mentioned above a game has an add on functionality which doesn't play nice, so even prompting on installation (which WinMo 6.5 does), doesn't help matters.
The CLR incorporates a pretty sophisticated permission management but it's terrible to deal with it, even if as a programmer you know what things are about - pushing it onto the end user of a phone in my opinion would be a pretty bad idea.
Cases like this one are exactlly why the way Microsoft intends to deal with software, is a great idea for a default behavior - although I would like to be able to sideload applications.
But honestly, if people could sideload at all, they would activate it in masses, if even for one dumb farting app, outside the marketplace that everyone thought was cool. I'm not talking about devs or Power Users but about people using Google to find: how to get app xyz working.
Pretty soon a situation would arise like the one we could see some weeks ago, when a virus infested lots of jailbroken iPhones in Australia. The problem was that simply after jail break, most didn't change the administrator password of the phone, allowing telnet connections from the phone network.
I don't like the situation that arises with WP7 and I really hope we will get access to APIs for doing actual phone calls, accessing the PIM data, etc. but yes: sandboxing with reduced permission sets without elevation is the way to go when MS tries to change the way WinMo is perceived by many: unstable and easily compromised.
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Please copy / paste / timetravel / this conversation back to 1975, to a non-suspecting group of consumers, along with the PDA and tell them this is how we go about calling eachother in 2010. Sandboxed AntiTrojan/Virus Administrative Rights Calling Application Programming Interface and some more of that.
For sure they will protest and kling-on to the old round dialer disk phones.
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It''s about control. As many other said and Microsoft implicated, they need more control over the brand/expierence.
In the early months of 2002 you could take your Compaq Ipaq 3870 and hook it up to a Bluetooth GPS, a Bluetooth Phone with GPRS, and have navigation- and web based realtime GPS Tracking software running at the same time.
That is 7 years back. Making that work took 5 minutes (manually configuring COMport splitter).
I sincelery hope that developers will get access to the system at a level that makes the above possible.
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Please copy / paste / timetravel / this conversation back to 1975, to a non-suspecting group of consumers, along with the PDA and tell them this is how we go about calling eachother in 2010. Sandboxed AntiTrojan/Virus Administrative Rights Calling Application Programming Interface and some more of that.
For sure they will protest and kling-on to the old round dialer disk phones.
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It''s about control. As many other said and Microsoft implicated, they need more control over the brand/expierence.
In the early months of 2002 you could take your Compaq Ipaq 3870 and hook it up to a Bluetooth GPS, a Bluetooth Phone with GPRS, and have navigation- and web based realtime GPS Tracking software running at the same time.
That is 7 years back. Making that work took 5 minutes (manually configuring COMport splitter).
I sincelery hope that developers will get access to the system at a level that makes the above possible.
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Hello! I'm a designer who loves Metro. I'm tired of seeing the lackluster Metro app design currently plaguing the Windows Store. While there are some fantastic designs, many apps are just boring or don't fit in well with the Metro design language.
I'm here to help. I'm offering my design skills at no cost, all I ask for is one line of credit in the app's About page.
This is my first design. It's a complete GUI for Instapaper. It's very clean, modern, and most certainly Metro. It's extremely simplistic, but still has everything you could want from an Instapaper app. This app rivals even the official Android and iOS Instapaper apps. The design is based around the Bing News app and the People app. If you're interested in developing this app, I feel you could charge at least $3 in the Store, and make a good profit, which I would want no part of.
Below are some images. I have PSDs of every interface from the log in to creating a new folder. If you're seriously interested in developing this app, either send me a message or post below.
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This is really awesome sir,Im sure someone would be interested in developing such a great design
Aaaagh... don't quote huge OPs like that, please! Just hit Quick Reply and don't use the "Quote message in reply?" option. It just makes the page really long and makes it hard to find the breaks between posts...
To the OP: looks very nice. I hope you find a dev to work with. A few things to keep in mind:
1) Different resolutions, and scaling between them. What looks great on the Surface's 1366x768 will look pretty bad on my desktop's 2560x1440.
2) Different aspect ratios. Tablets in particular are sometimes used in portrait aspect ratio. It would be great to have a good UI for using the app like that too; not enough Store apps handle that well.
3) Snapping the app to one side or the other. This makes it much thinner and also removes the ability to open the App Bar (right-click or swipe in from top/bottom) and Charms bar for that app, so if it's going to be useful in the snapped view it should offer the most critical controls directly to the user in this interface. Skype, Xbox Music, and even Mail do decent jobs of this, although they aren't necessarily pretty.
GoodDayToDie said:
Aaaagh... don't quote huge OPs like that, please! Just hit Quick Reply and don't use the "Quote message in reply?" option. It just makes the page really long and makes it hard to find the breaks between posts...
To the OP: looks very nice. I hope you find a dev to work with. A few things to keep in mind:
1) Different resolutions, and scaling between them. What looks great on the Surface's 1366x768 will look pretty bad on my desktop's 2560x1440.
2) Different aspect ratios. Tablets in particular are sometimes used in portrait aspect ratio. It would be great to have a good UI for using the app like that too; not enough Store apps handle that well.
3) Snapping the app to one side or the other. This makes it much thinner and also removes the ability to open the App Bar (right-click or swipe in from top/bottom) and Charms bar for that app, so if it's going to be useful in the snapped view it should offer the most critical controls directly to the user in this interface. Skype, Xbox Music, and even Mail do decent jobs of this, although they aren't necessarily pretty.
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I do have designs for every view/position (I haven't done anything about scalability, but I have ideas on how to work with that). I only posted the two main views in dark/light varients to make sure people could get a good solid understand of how it will work and function. I have PSD's for almost everything that's needed. I've found someone who says they'd like to work on it.
Its looks very nice... and clean...:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:
You should undertake overhauling a well known open source windows software. Most of them dont have a metro counterpart. Just pick anything, i can see you have a pretty functional design understanding.