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EDITORIAL: Newest Interface Schemes for WindowsMobile/ Android HTC Phones

There's a lot of development at XDA, but often hard to get a snapshot of what is happening all over the site. Since this topic covers multiple phones, and is about modifying the whole user interface of the phones, it seems right to post it here. I would like to see more energy put into User Experience design -- and general usability -- as opposed to just replicating what's out there.
For me, all the effort that's been spent on replicating the Windows 6.5 interface is such an un-leveraged, fairly wasteful use of time and energy -- other than for decoration purposes so someone can say "I've got the invisible honeycomb look!". ( Microsoft's CEO Ballmer himself, as most industry analysts, have seen it as a lame band-aid for Microsoft to APPEAR to be innovating after apple kicked its ass. This is why what should have been a HUGE marketing & branding campaign, heralding WINDOWS PHONE as the new brand for Windows Mobile as instead been fairly low-key. Because the phones are all out there already from HTC, etc, but they're running the ugly, left-in-the-dust 6.5 interface. Ballmer acknowleged WindowsMobile 7.0 should be out -- and THAT could be a game changer. It will for sure have elements of the Zune HD interface, which is following the interface "family" (or eco-system -- new word of the year) of Windows 7.0 desktop user experience )
I'd like to see what user interface designers think about all of this.
It seems to me that the world of touchscreen phones has, essentially, four navigation schemes:
(1) Apple iphone is a grid-based icon system, which "sells" the idea of specialty apps -- as replacements for 90% of them which could be web pages displaying through a decent mobile browser.
(2) Palm's Web OS, which essentially uses a full screen version of Apple's own "coverflow" display system -- providing a context-view of what else is nearby the main window you're working with.
(3) Android's widget-based system -- which I view as enabling unrestricted usage of the entire screen, to be adapted into custom navigation schemes and display systems for applets & widgets.
(4) WM's old-fashioned pull-down menu, click-through to tiny-type interface screens, all inconsistent from one another, forming a hodge-podge stick and glue user experience. It just barely gets you where you need to go.
(I know all of these can be, and should be, disputed. But it's just to set the stage for: what can we do on HTC phones that provides flexible and rapid-access interfaces for the functions people use most).
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So here are some examples:
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This is the interface for a new WindowsXP phone made in China. I saw this today on GIZMODO:
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The above XP phone interface is not for Windows Mobile, but for fully functional Windows XP OS. So we see more convergence of platforms and devices. But there are some resemblances to some other schemes emerging, some of which we see at XDA:
For example:
1. FEWidgets Ultimate 1.0b12 , screenshots below:
It's nice to see some original thinking going on here, vs just accepting TouchFlo 3 as a great interface just because it's shipping on so many phones.
2. HTC's Hero theme transformed people's view of the possibilities for Android OS ...
To me, android's initial round of wallpaper schemes made the whole UI appear lifeless and ugly, like some bad imitation Salvador Dali painting. But HTC's Hero showed how some simple graphical elements could transform the overall appearance of Android -- which I am sure made Android's makers very happy, since they built something with an open architecture. (I want to save Sense UI for separate discussion)
3. ANDROKKID (from XDA's iFonz developer)
Written in dot net, this is the newest interface scheme from "simo" of simosoftprojects.com. He developed about 4 iterations of the iFonz interface over a two-year period before putting it to bed earlier this year in favor of the more Android-like "Anrokkid". Once simo moved away from ifonz (icon grid) and towards androkkid, the "radical change" was making the whole screen addressable in terms of navigation and display elements, and open-source widgets.
Now that we see the Hero Theme for Androkkid, to me this look also demonstrates the greater power available to revamp the entire look of Androkkid... more than just dragging around some widgets on a phone desktop.
Some emerging examples:
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Would love to get some comments -- and some posts of other current interface schemes being developed here at XDA. thanks!
(Mods -- if this thread belongs elsewhere, would you please move it and PM me so that I understand where and why. thank you)

Please tell me hot upgrade above mentioned very damn good products on my i780....?

psolunke said:
Please tell me hot upgrade above mentioned very damn good products on my i780....?
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Sorry I don't know what the i780 is ... I probably should, but I don't. Is it an HTC phone?
I think the best investment of time right now is ANDROKKID -- because I read recently that the developer of FEWidgets has less time to move along his excellent UI ....
Androkkid thread is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=540428
You have to invest time to go read and follow its instructions. People are very helpful in the thread. The main thing you may want to know is that Androkkid is an application that installs with a .cab file. It has never been cooked into a ROM, as far as I know. Because it is unnecessary to do so.
It requires Microsoft .net compact framework.

Samsung i780..now I hv WM 6.5 in it.
Please let me know how can you help me out.

psolunke said:
Samsung i780..now I hv WM 6.5 in it.
Please let me know how can you help me out.
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It's very simple:
Go to the link for the thread I listed above -- the official ANDROKKID thread, and post there: "How do I install Androkkid on my Samsung 1780 running WM 6.5 ?"
Seriously, I cannot help you. Only they can. good luck.

Windows Phone 7 - Multitasking conecpt

Hi Guys,
hope i'm somehow right here and you are - more or less - interested in my concept/idea.
I didn't really know about this forum, but some guy in an other forum suggest i should post it here. Well... i do, don't know...
Anyway. Since the day i knew that WP7 wouldn't have any multitasking from the start, i was pretty sure how i would let it look like.
And a few days ago i saw the pictures of version 7753 with this search-button on the rightside and i realized, that MS could actually use that space.
So i decided that it would be time to visualize my thoughts, so here they are:
htt p://img215.imageshack.us/img215/5137/mulasking.png
Instead of the search-button i'd put a taskbar-icon at that place. Pressing the icon drops the actual taskbar with all running programms. By pressing an icon you can directly go into the programm/app, by pressing and holding the icon you can close it. And with the little up-showing arrow you can close the taskbar.
I also made the mail-hub a "wide-hub" (don't know how to call it...). First of all, i love those "wide-hubs", but it would also be nice, to see who wrote your latest recieved email and whats the topic is.
And last but not least i would like to split the zune-functions. I use the zune-hub basicly for listing to my music for example, so it would be nice, to sort out that function and create a music-tile on the homescreen. This could also work with videos, podcasts etc.
And... while i was in the mood i made some customization-concepts. I tried to keep all basic Metro-elemnts and just improve some things.
The transparancy is not knew, i know that it was introduced in an earlier conecpt by someone else, but it's a nice idea and i'd just love to see something like that. Of course it only make sense, if you can put pictures or at least gradients (like in the mentioned concept) on your homescreeb background.
htt p://img846.imageshack.us/img846/1870/custom.png
At last i thought about some all-over-themes, where you can't individually customize your UI, but use themes. For exempale i love the zune-look with, which is why i even made three different zune-themes.
htt p://img202.imageshack.us/img202/7904/themesl.png
C&C is of course appreciated... in any way.
And sorry if i'm totaly wrong here.

Buddy i can not see the pictures...It says to login to imageshack! Please Upload them somewhere else or you can upload them here.
Regards.

No. I'm a first-time-poster so i can't put outgoing links into my posts. At least as long as i havn't made 8 posts. ;-)
But i put a [space] between the htt_p. Thats why those links won't work with simple copy-paste. You just have to erase that little space there and the links will work.
At least they do it for me and i also have no imageshack-account. o.0

I can see the pictures okay. It makes good use of the blank space below the "next screen" arrow in WP7.
Maybe this is why Microsoft left the area blank The only thing I do not like is the way you did the close menu. I would do it like the OS has the menu system - bottom. It would also give you more options.

Can you give me wallpaper on the second slide?

wow! i think your concept of multitasking is fantastic! i really like the way it looks and its a very smart use of the space on the right of the home screen!

Looks really good! But what if you want to switch while being in an app?
I can see the wide eMail icon come really soon! Hopefully ;-)

Cyruss89 said:
Looks really good! But what if you want to switch while being in an app?
I can see the wide eMail icon come really soon! Hopefully ;-)
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Ditto to your comment. I was wondering the same thing about switching within an app.
After all, having return to the home screen is what we CURRENTLY must do... There's no advantage in this unless you can call up the task manager from within any app.

TexUs said:
Ditto to your comment. I was wondering the same thing about switching within an app.
After all, having return to the home screen is what we CURRENTLY must do... There's no advantage in this unless you can call up the task manager from within any app.
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well honestly i wouldn't have a problem with it. by the time multitasking comes out we will be so accustomed to returning to the home screen to do anything so it wouldn't be much of a hassle

TeNsTrKe15 said:
well honestly i wouldn't have a problem with it. by the time multitasking comes out we will be so accustomed to returning to the home screen to do anything so it wouldn't be much of a hassle
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This is just adding a second set of tiles to the homescreen. That's it. Unless there's some way to open that taskmanager up within any app- it's no different than what there currently exists.

TexUs said:
This is just adding a second set of tiles to the homescreen. That's it. Unless there's some way to open that taskmanager up within any app- it's no different than what there currently exists.
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yea i can see what you mean. opening the multitasking in an app would be nice. but it would not affect me to have to return to the home screen

Yeah, you're right. That was, was I was kinda missing.
But here is where the actual multitasking that MS showed before could come to work again. While you're in an app you press the back-button a litte bit longer. What than shows up could look like it does now in the "officel concept", or maybe like this...
htt p://img839.imageshack.us/img839/4185/multi2d.png
... just a quick idea.
I'll have a second thought about it.
And thanks for all the comments anyway. Made my at least think of something i obviously forgott.

TexUs said:
Ditto to your comment. I was wondering the same thing about switching within an app.
After all, having return to the home screen is what we CURRENTLY must do... There's no advantage in this unless you can call up the task manager from within any app.
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Agreed.
I like the minimalist use of that side space, but I'm not sure a multi-tasking menu there is any improvement over the Mango demos. However, it might be a decent space for a "recent app" history bar, a toggle-able notification menu (a la Android/WebOS), or something along those lines.

Thurgo.Ôd said:
Yeah, you're right. That was, was I was kinda missing.
But here where the actual multitasking that MS showed before would come to work again. While you're in an app you press the back-button a litte bit longer. What then shows up could look like it does now, or like this...
htt p://img839.imageshack.us/img839/4185/multi2d.png
... just a quick idea.
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i do have to say that is a fine idea. keeps all the tiles as the are on in the games area (like how if you enter multitasking on iOS the icons pop up with the same size as if they were on the main screen). so yea everything stays equal. both ideas are great! would be awesome to see microsoft impement one of them!

Very cool work! All of these are pretty realistic additions and I hope Microsoft eventually does something like this.

Your multitasking and customisation concepts look really good. I'd love to have multitasking like this.
After all, I would start the taskmanager by longpressing the Windows-button too.
Official concept says it will be longpressing the back-button but in my opinion you'll need the taskmanager more often than this useless voicecommand.

since ms is not yet done with their own concept of mt., i hope they are still open to other great suggestions such as this one. it maximizes the blank space on the right side, simple and neat. its a great concept. hope what they have presented in mwc will not be the final code for mt. they need to think of ways on how to simplify it and one good example is this one.
there are also pic in wmpoweruser about themes and transparent tiles
http://wmpoweruser.com/another-windows-phone-7-multi-tasking-concept/
good job on the concept.

Loved your ideas when I read them on WMPoweruser this morning (thumbs thanks to WMPoweruser). So here are some pics to help spread the good word:
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And here are OP's original links:
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HOLY ****! ;O
This is even better than I ever thought! Hey there, Microsoft, we are talking to you!
Pay attention on this. Seriously.

The multitasking concept is absolutely brilliant.
Fits to metro in a much nicer way than these webOS cards.

Notification Concept for Windows Phone.. what do you guys think

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Notification center is one place for all new events and updates, like call, mails, messages, social networks updates such as Facebook and Twitter and others.
Full info Notification center concept for Windows Phone

Yeah I like it a lot.

Looks good to me too.

Looks awesome!!! Killer idea.

Looks great

thanks guys ..
You guys might also like some of the other concepts we have done in the past
Skype , Paypal
Our entire Concept series for Windows Phone

It looks nice, but is too busy for my taste.

Don't like the sense-esque weather or how busy it is as it'd muck up the UI but I like the concept, just too busy for metro.

Yup, a lot of these concepts don't take into account the amount of work the WP7 design team has put in to making the Metro UI uncluttered, simple and yet so stylish..
too busy and would look very out of place with the clean styling of the Metro UI

Looks like Android to me...

I love it - looks great and functional too.
Yes Metro UI is uncluttered, but unfortunately that means lists of white text on a black background...again and again. It's easy to use but boring to look at - reminds me of an old DOS terminal!

the0ne said:
Notification center is one place for all new events and updates, like call, mails, messages, social networks updates such as Facebook and Twitter and others.
Full info Notification center concept for Windows Phone
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Did you seriously just copy "Notification Center" from iOS 5 right down to the name?
In any case, it looks good. But I'm not sure Microsoft wants to go the down-swipe route. Maybe swipe right to a pane to the left of the start screen?
Or even an extra button on the start screen to go to a Notification Hub. The App list has Search, the Home Screen can have the notification button with a number inside the bubble. I think taht would be elegant and the most unintrusive way to add it in.
In the Hub you can have Notifications and Reminders, however if you have to go to the Notification Hub to get reminders you're already somewhat failed there The OS supports Tasks and To-Dos with half-screen notifications/reminders. There's no need for that pane, IMO.
I am sort of pissed that Microsoft didn't make toasts a rolling 3D box like Apple did in iOS, though... They really need to add a bit more 3D to the OS. It's way way too flat IMO. Almost painstakingly so.
Your Skype thing bought an issue to mind. Why doesn't the message hub in Mango have a graphic or text to tell you your online status? After all, the phone does not log you on automatically when you [re]boot it up.
The music playback controls there are thoroughly unnecessary since they're easily accessible by just pressing a volume key. Waste of space.
I actually think the bubble (Notifications for Start, Search for App list in same spot) would be a better solution than a gesture. Some apps take over that top area and I'm not sure how the phone will handle it when you have UI elements up there that need to be tapped or dragged.

Looks like Android not Windows Phone!

Way to busy, Metro is an elegant yet minimalist UI. This concept looks like a breed between Android and Windows Mobile. With Nokia now contributing to the actual OS I believe the 3rd page concept found on Meego will/should make the jump (minus twitter and facebook since they're already in the People hub).
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the0ne said:
thanks guys ..
You guys might also like some of the other concepts we have done in the past
Skype , Paypal
Our entire Concept series for Windows Phone
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I much prefer your other concepts

I like the idea of a swipe down for a metro list of recent notifications though...that's a priceless idea and seems to flow properly within the windows 8 ecosystem

I think you are missing the point.
Ignore the background and additional applications etc. The notifications themselves look great and an idea I was thinking about.
If you don't code this up, I will

domineus said:
I like the idea of a swipe down for a metro list of recent notifications though...that's a priceless idea and seems to flow properly within the windows 8 ecosystem
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very wrong imo. A swipe down where? Lock screen? That's not very convenient, home screen? We swipe up and down to navigate the menu. The most viable option is a third table.

z33dev33l said:
very wrong imo. A swipe down where? Lock screen? That's not very convenient, home screen? We swipe up and down to navigate the menu. The most viable option is a third table.
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it's already in the os
swipe down you get your battery indicator and time...
same method of swiping but instead getting notifications...

Purple11 said:
Looks like Android to me...
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It does....
Nice concept, it's just not Windows Phone though...

go for it
@Peew971 : I didn't create it , one of our designers ( Yanko ) worked on the design

The next version of Ziggy is going to make the old one look like dirt

http://www.wpcentral.com/ask-ziggy-temporarily-busted-major-overhaul-horizon-exclusive-first-pics
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look really good then.
Time to do some Apple Siri-Comparing!

Just Downloaded v1 from the marketplace out of curiosity. Definately needs some help with accuracy lol

I like positive news and this is positive, WP needs to keep up the good work and listen to what we want and need, if they do then I can see them reaching their goals in 2015 but if the don't then, well... it's not good and you all know how I feel about that so I'll spare you my complaining.

The new update looks awesome..cant wait for it..And the best part is that it is totally free!

Symondo said:
Just Downloaded v1 from the marketplace out of curiosity. Definately needs some help with accuracy lol
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Agreed, I read some where that the dev of this app has actually been trying to get Ziggy to do more but you know MS and their damned restricted API's. I'n my opinion they need to hire this guy.

The screenshots look cool. I may dl it again.
I tried it before, and 90% of the time the response was just "would you like to do a websearch for that" or whatever it says.
I could save myself time and a couple steps by just voice-searching Bing.

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The screenshots look cool. I may dl it again.
I tried it before, and 90% of the time the response was just "would you like to do a websearch for that" or whatever it says.
I could save myself time and a couple steps by just voice-searching Bing.
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I know I hardly use it my self, I'll use it from time to time to entertain my self for a few laughs but it's great to see it evolve. You have to give it to the dev of the app; he has to improve it even with the MS restrictions.

I really don't like it when developers use a panorama design and put "Settings" as a screen to swipe to. They really should put the settings in the app bar. If he only wants the microphone icon in the app bar then add the settings to the "more" 2 dots part.
Otherwise I'm looking forward to this update!

sayonical said:
I really don't like it when developers use a panorama design and put "Settings" as a screen to swipe to. They really should put the settings in the app bar. If he only wants the microphone icon in the app bar then add the settings to the "more" 2 dots part.
Otherwise I'm looking forward to this update!
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LOL, I think he did it that way because people asked him to make it more metrofied.

Much better design and definitely if Microsoft know what they doing, they would hire this dude. These are people that are ready to dedicate their full time to Windows Phone.

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LOL, I think he did it that way because people asked him to make it more metrofied.
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Then he should look closely at how MS design their panorama apps. Settings are always in the app bar in People hub, messaging, xbox live hub, calender etc
Generally when a user swipes along a panoramic screen its to see more content. Settings isn't more content. Most users don't even fiddle with it each time they launch the app unless they need to change something, so therefore dedicating an entire panoramic screen to it is bad design and not metro.
That is my opinion

sayonical said:
Then he should look closely at how MS design their panorama apps. Settings are always in the app bar in People hub, messaging, xbox live hub, calender etc
Generally when a user swipes along a panoramic screen its to see more content. Settings isn't more content. Most users don't even fiddle with it each time they launch the app unless they need to change something, so therefore dedicating an entire panoramic screen to it is bad design and not metro.
That is my opinion
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+1
It's the case with so many major app developers. It's the mindset from other OSes. That brings us to badly developed apps argument. There is always an app for what we need, if not official, a client - majority of the times. But most apps are so horribly metrofied that it's mortifying. Making apps esp free ones, is an amazing task! But then full hearted approach to match the metro concept will streamline an user's experience and they will love your app more. Else someone too choosy about how his phone looks might find distasteful breaks in his streamline experience. Most WP users gotta be choosy with UI, why else would you love this new UI so much!?
May be people here won't agree, but this is what I generally consider as a factor whether any particular app will stay on my WP. In my WM and Android days, that wasn't an issue because OS UI was ugly anyway. But can't let the UI experience be ruined just because I want some functionality of an app that I might only use once a week or once a month!

Oh this looks so much better. I'm not a big fan of how it looks right now.
I do agree with previous comments about settings. A whole screen to swipe to is uneccessary. Put it in the bar.

I can agree Ziggy looks dirty. I hope developer ask some designers to help him make ui better.

Function over finesse. It's more important to get the core working well, than to tweak the look and feel.
For the most part the real use is a 1 button deal. Make it listen. Make it stop and process.
The app without a function update was only a cool concept, but not much worked properly. Since it is a 1 person team, I am glad the focus is on getting it to function properly.
Once the guts are working properly, it can be delivered. Then, we will have a great functional app while the user interface tweaks are done. Then we will have a superb app.

LG G2.....Pretty Impressive

At first glance I was like hrmm, eh, I'm not really fond of 1: the button on the back and 2: the touchwiz like UI they have, but upon further inspection of watching some videos, OMG the customization it has? one word WOW!!!!!!!!!!!
If I had that much customization on my touchwiz I would be MORE than happy to keep it, in fact I am wondering somthing, when will somone extract that and implement it into a rom.....that would be somthing I'd truley love to see.
I've never seen so much stuff, and very handy stuff too, stuff I would probably use daily once I got it.
LG G2: Unboxing & Review - YouTube a video showing the customization it has, that's insanely cool.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHOe5GkGU9Q
I am NOT a fan of touchwiz, or the touchwiz GUI style at all, but this?.....this adds a new twist on things.
OK Samsung, I hope your watching, take some notes, I think LG actually did something right this time.
I however am not a fan of the "look" they used, IE the icons for the toggles, they look well, kinda ugly or I dunnno, old school, but I could overlook all that with the functionality in things. Not to mention this phones camera and speed is well off the charts.
Almost tempting to switch over and start a contract with higher payments.
Sure wish they had a rom that had all the stuff this LG has in it for this phone.

This has been out since August-http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2415137 I have the G2 Launcher ported as well, just gotta put all the pieces together.
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hehe nice nice.....as big as things are around here it's not hard to miss stuff .
Before I delv into this rom, I had one question....I sifted thru the features list, and didn't see it....but 2 things rigth off that catch my eye or the 3 finger swipe option, for the 3 apps open at once, and the alt tab style apps, where you can adjust the transparency of them IE I am in a browser and wanna open notepad for takeing notes so I open that, and make it see through, THEN I wanna open calc to add somthing up, and also have that open and can like move between them all 3 at once on the screen..........are those 2 options in this rom?
Among the many things, those 2 options are most apealing to e, notibly the 3 apps on top of each other o[ption, that REALLY appeals to me, as I am a lot of times an huge alt tabber, and multi-tasker.
BTW I havn't used yer roms yet Bil, but I've seen your work, and you do a good job

easyrider77 said:
hehe nice nice.....as big as things are around here it's not hard to miss stuff .
Before I delv into this rom, I had one question....I sifted thru the features list, and didn't see it....but 2 things rigth off that catch my eye or the 3 finger swipe option, for the 3 apps open at once, and the alt tab style apps, where you can adjust the transparency of them IE I am in a browser and wanna open notepad for takeing notes so I open that, and make it see through, THEN I wanna open calc to add somthing up, and also have that open and can like move between them all 3 at once on the screen..........are those 2 options in this rom?
Among the many things, those 2 options are most apealing to e, notibly the 3 apps on top of each other o[ption, that REALLY appeals to me, as I am a lot of times an huge alt tabber, and multi-tasker.
BTW I havn't used yer roms yet Bil, but I've seen your work, and you do a good job
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No those options aren't in there, but I've been meaning to put out an update... Just need to find the time. It's more like the Optimus G Pro at this point in time.

bilgerryan said:
No those options aren't in there, but I've been meaning to put out an update... Just need to find the time. It's more like the Optimus G Pro at this point in time.
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hrmm ok, I think I may hold off then. The Pro also has the features it looks like so that's nice.
Any timeframe as to when you might have the updated version with those features in it? I lean towards the multi winodw at once feature, with the scalable opacity, if that was added I'd be all over it.

Multi Windows has been tried on this device many times and ShoStock is the only one with it working but it's a port from another carrier so MMS and Update Profile/PRL doesn't work. As for the other features, I haven't looked into them so I don't know if I'll be able to port them. I have the G2 Launcher, Keyboard, Calendar Widget, and Weather ported but I don't know if I'll be able to grab anything else yet. I don't have much free time lately so it will be awhile. I recommend you try it anyway, it's a fun ROM with the LG themes.

easyrider77 said:
At first glance I was like hrmm, eh, I'm not really fond of 1: the button on the back and 2: the touchwiz like UI they have, but upon further inspection of watching some videos, OMG the customization it has? one word WOW!!!!!!!!!!!
If I had that much customization on my touchwiz I would be MORE than happy to keep it, in fact I am wondering somthing, when will somone extract that and implement it into a rom.....that would be somthing I'd truley love to see.
I've never seen so much stuff, and very handy stuff too, stuff I would probably use daily once I got it.
LG G2: Unboxing & Review - YouTube a video showing the customization it has, that's insanely cool.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHOe5GkGU9Q
I am NOT a fan of touchwiz, or the touchwiz GUI style at all, but this?.....this adds a new twist on things.
OK Samsung, I hope your watching, take some notes, I think LG actually did something right this time.
I however am not a fan of the "look" they used, IE the icons for the toggles, they look well, kinda ugly or I dunnno, old school, but I could overlook all that with the functionality in things. Not to mention this phones camera and speed is well off the charts.
Almost tempting to switch over and start a contract with higher payments.
Sure wish they had a rom that had all the stuff this LG has in it for this phone.
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I just bought my wife one about 29 days ago. It is pretty nice. I have not had time to play with it because I dont want to mess her setup up
Anyway I agree it is a sweet phone with a great camera and speed. IMO, I wish the Nexus 5 had that camera in it. LG did a good job on this phone, IMO.

I have the g2 and it is amazing.
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