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All I want is to post my questions and answers in the rom forum of my choice
ya, i thought that was dumb too. i dont really care about the rest, just trying to figure out this rom
What rom would the be
The ten post limit is because alot of new members post questions in the dev section. If you are a general user of xda then a ten post limit is nothing.
Maybe try a different heading thay describes your problem in a nutshell. By the way what is your problem, you never said.
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Answer in this thread ten times and you will get your ten post
I agree with the ten post rule and actually believe it should be a higher number
Or even better if you had to be approved by a mod to be able to.post in the Dev section
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Yeah, it is not that hard to get ten posts. Besides all you really need to do is read for a while. The development section is for the pros not for the questions that have been asked a thousand times
That is what this section is for!
i8qbert said:
Yeah, it is not that hard to get ten posts. Besides all you really need to do is read for a while. The development section is for the pros not for the questions that have been asked a thousand times
That is what this section is for!
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You could at least post your "10" in different threads....
If they want the development section to be developers, than I can understand that but it seems strange to ask a question about say, Myn's Warm TwoPointTwo here rather than on a thread about it.
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If they want the development section to be developers, than I can understand that but it seems strange to ask a question about say, Myn's Warm TwoPointTwo here rather than on a thread about it.
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Not at all, actually. While myself and others are also guilty of posting such banter in ROM threads, that isn't where it actually belongs. Questions posted in the ROM threads should be posted only if they're concerning the actual development of the ROM rather than the usual "how do I...?" or "wow, this Rom is great, thanks dev!".
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=713251
It appears a reminder may be in order, about the purpose of the development fora on XDA.
If you have developed a ROM, or are working with others to do so, the development forum is somewhere to discuss and share ideas, post useful feedback and logs or crash dumps, and to discuss a common goal developers are trying to achieve.
It is NOT the place to post your question because it gets higher traffic, or because more experienced users frequent it. Doing this just annoys those who are working on the device, and drives them away. Developers don't want to wade through 20 threads of "Help me urgently" to find their threads for porting and fixing camera issues etc. Similarly, if a thread is designated as discussion for developers say, porting a camera fix, please do not post in there asking "When will it be ready?", "Can I flash this yet?" etc. This is both completely disrespectful to those working on the project (you evidently haven't read the important posts in the thread), and also is making it harder for developers to find comments from other developers or testers when required.
Similarly, don't make loads of "Thanks for your work here" posts in an active development thread. It's just as annoying to developers as asking when something will be ready. If a ROM is complete, then go ahead and thank the developer if you wish, but don't go into threads for devs only, and interrupt it to post "thanks". It's basically spamming, and is treated as such.
If you are posting in development, you should have read every sticky and notice there, and should be actively developing or helping in the development of something. Developing isn't installing a ROM, or using a tweak, it's creating a ROM or other hack or tweak. If you haven't read for several days before starting out on XDA, you are likely about to ask something already solved. I registered on XDA when I first wanted to post, and that was to join in a discussion on something. Sure, join up and ask a question, but read the information available in General and Q&A first, as your question will have been asked before. Search is your friend here, become familiar with it.
Regarding when to post in development if you are not actually developing something, there is one occasion where it's acceptable. If you find a leak of a new ROM, which isn't already posted, and you verify it's legitimacy via either running it, or based on the source you obtained it from, then this is assisting in development, and should be posted in development. If you want to ask when a leak will be available use search first, then if not already in discussion, open a thread in general or Q&A.
If you have a problem flashing a ROM, this is NOT related to development. It's up to you to determine if it is specific to a particular ROM, and post useful information in that developer's existing thread for the ROM. If it happens on more than one ROM, and isn't a known issue (remember you should read several times more words than you post), then find out what you are doing wrong. Check guides written by others, try to repeat the problem and see if it happens every time. Something needs to be reproducible to be fixed effectively.
Once you have identified what you need help with go to the device Q&A forum (general if device lacks one), and make a clear, informative thread that explains the issue, and what you have tried doing to fix it. Did you re-download the ROM? Did you ask a friend to flash it for you, to reduce chance of user error? What steps (exactly) did you follow? What errors did you see (exact wording)? Did you double check all the steps? Did you do a wipe or hard reset?
If you make a clear, concise, yet detailed post, you will find help forthcoming, and should get the problem sorted very quickly. If someone suggests you try something, report back on what happened, did it work etc. Then, next time someone has this issue and searches, they will find this and have a verified and tested solution.
So remember... before you start a thread in development, ask yourself what you are developing. If you can't answer, then stop, step away from the post button, and think about where you are posting. Would it be better in General or Q&A, or is some more time with your best friend, search, required?
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Ten posts?
I tend to read and only contribute if I have something to say. Not in this case! Now I have to post just to post. Gee this is kinda fun. I think I will start posting meaningless drivel on more topics. Thanks ten post rule!
Ya post Hi in the introduction thread then Thank everyone who welcomed you. Hell, there's at least 2 or 3 post. Then check out the development (apps/games) and find something you want there and thank them for their hard work.
10 posts shouldn't take you more than a few days if you're active. Don't need them anyway as the question you're wanting to ask has already been asked.
10 post is annoying, but I understand the reason. Post.
This is the reason for the 10 post rule.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1121527
I realize that this post had over 100 post, but not the place for their post.
My question is why our devs dont have a dev title instead of Senior Member I mean that why some devs leave XDA and get their own website because they don't get the credit or place that they deserve....??
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My question is why our devs dont have a dev title instead of Senior Member I mean that why some devs leave XDA and get their own website because they don't get the credit or place that they deserve....??
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You need to apply for the dev title only some get it i just found out about it like 2 days ago
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You need to apply for the dev title only some get it i just found out about it like 2 days ago
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I think that makes sense. That way not just anyone can say I am a dev. I think that with the work your guys do it should have some prestige to it.
Dumb
The only reason I use XDA is as a root resource; this is just irritating that I have to post these ten msgs.
Why is the forum setup where you need 10 posts to be able to post in a development thread? Just because someone may not be actively posting on the site doesn't mean that they don't have a clue what is going on when it comes to development. (Obviously I'm using this for one of my posts because this deal is really dumb)
For an explanation, please see the link in my sig "Postcount limit in Dev fora" or 1 of the many other threads in this section explaining it.
let me be frank. this forum is getting bored lately. a lot of new user has turned this forum into their secondary samsung service centre and repeatedly asked same questions. I don't know what other's feeling but I'm getting tired giving them repeated same answer. when I first came here this forum is a lot more nice and fun. the general section have a lot of information and great discussion about android and our sgy, while all question is placed and answered nicely in FAQ thread. but now, all those usefull information is gone. replaced, and covered by those repeated silly question. please note that I'm not saying that we can't ask question in this forum. sure we can ask any question related our sgy development, but please stop asking any troubleshooting question in general section. you can ask those question on FAQ thread anytime, or you can ask any senior member here via PM. you can even PM me, and I'll sure gladly answer if I can help.
well...please forgive me complaining. I just wanna make this forum as fun and nice as possible to all members. I can't do it by myself. I'll need all your help to keep this forum in order. if you're a new member here, please search and read before ask any question. if you're a senior member, please don't answer any troubleshooting which is not placed on FAQ question. they won't stop asking those question if you continue answer those question.
best regards,
kurotsugi
We Need Iron Fist Back
burnt out
i'm getting lazy answering the same questions too bro
clearly, they really need to use that search button, it's getting rusty
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We Need Iron Fist Back
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Really we need it back
Don't want ics for y
I want Kelly bean
I agry wth u all ................
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Yeah. Totally. For about half a year that i'm here, totally got bored. @[email protected] I'm finding no improvements at all.
We need a Q and A section. Posting in the same thread will only make us stay put in the 'Legacy and Low Activity' devices section. There need to be threads opening up every few seconds for us to get outta this rejected low activity section and into the main frame. Only then will there be real development of this device.
I'd have to agree, especially to those porting and creating ROMs that are left/unstable and thus calling themselves devs. I think the whole forum needs a spring cleaning, and when a thread starter has already a negative reputation, I guess that's when Iron Fist should be hammered down.
Raol Emostar said:
We need a Q and A section. Posting in the same thread will only make us stay put in the 'Legacy and Low Activity' devices section. There need to be threads opening up every few seconds for us to get outta this rejected low activity section and into the main frame. Only then will there be real development of this device.
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True ... !!
Even for a simple question newbie opens a new thread
U r right kuroshi
IMO FAQ thread is more than enough for this moment. if there is new section to be created, I think sgy duos development should prioritized first.
anyway, thanks for your support guys. I hope more member will join us soon.
A Duos sub-forum inside ours? Thats gotta help in our development. More threads are proportional to more development to me. Hope there'll be QnA and other version of Galaxy Y's sections soon.
I just saw two new threads
1st about rooting n
2nd about bricking galaxy y
Don't want ics for y
I want Kelly bean
imo separated sub-forum or faq thread is not effective. the problem is a lot of new member too lazy to use search button. even if we have Q&A section, if nobody give them an answer because similar question again and again, they will try to find other place to ask. we already have some people asking in dev section just because they want answer from a dev.
i agree with kurotsugi. if you are a senior member, ignore that kind of question. and if necessarily ask mod to close or delete. if questioner is a newbie, give him/her an advice to do search and ask mod to close that thread. that will be strong message : if you lazy, nobody here will help you.
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imo separated sub-forum or faq thread is not effective. the problem is a lot of new member too lazy to use search button. even if we have Q&A section, if nobody give them an answer because similar question again and again, they will try to find other place to ask. we already have some people asking in dev section just because they want answer from a dev.
i agree with kurotsugi. if you are a senior member, ignore that kind of question. and if necessarily ask mod to close or delete. if questioner is a newbie, give him/her an advice to do search and ask mod to close that thread. that will be strong message : if you lazy, nobody here will help you.
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I was going to report to senior mods but in my phone mode I can't copy threads links it gives me error
And I don't have a PC or laptpp
Can anyone give me link of xda app v2.0.0 so I can report to mods faster
And as I m biggest noob in this field i want to know wat r infractions
Don't want ics for y
I want Kelly bean
yeah.. i have even almost stopped checking the general section.. only check out the development section.
if we assume that all member here are read all the rules and search-read-try before ask any question, FAQ thread or even QA section is not needed. nevertheless, the reality is slightly different. let say, only those the 'more educated' one will do as we assume above. the other new members are usually never read the rules or even use search before post anything. in that case, we still need a FAQ thread to localize those question.
btw, I don't wanna see any harsh things here. not all of us are real devs, most of us here are still considered as newbie (including myself) who want to learn more about android stuff. personally I believe that this forum is not intended only for devs. this is a forum to share, learn, and improve all stuff about android. if you found new member posted those 'junk' question again, just kindly told him to post the question on FAQ thread, or if you don't have time to do that you can simply just ignore it.
Newbies should be responsible to read these 3 most important things
Read And Follow The Rules
Read Before PostingCommon Questions Should Be In FAQ
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Yeppie
I made our forum little bit clean by pm'ing threads link to mods
My special thanks to everyone in this thread
Keep our forum clean
To keep the section clean, I think admins should:
Close the thread and delete it. If not possible to delete, then we should have a trash bin for those threads.
Also, I agree to have a Q and A section. We all know that almost all of us haven't even seen the FAQ's - count me in.
BTW, I have viewed XDA wiki when I started here.
I've seen in various places mention of the 10-post threshhold, and scattered mentions of various things you can't do before that point, but I haven't found a definitive list of what happens when you are upgraded from "Junior Member" to--what?--"Regular Member"?
If there is already such a list, can anyone provide a link?
All I've found so far is the list in post 17981993, but
it appears to be incomplete.
Some of the things I've heard of/am hoping for:
signature
post links
post in dev forums
post without captcha
thanks button
No 5-minute waiting period between posts
edit posts (apparently not an issue)
Also useful is a list of things that the 10-post threshold doesn't get you that you might have been hoping for/expecting.
You get what you get when you get it.
This might be helpful to answer your questions and more: GUIDE] - XDA New User Guide - Getting started on XDA.
Welcome to XDA, good luck,
mf2112
XDA Moderator
I really dislike this.
Not every new user is a noob who hasn't done their research before posting.
Right now I have a major issue with a rom and can't post on the thread because I don't have permission...
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Right now I have a major issue with a rom and can't post on the thread because I don't have permission...
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And that's why Q&A section is meant for. Development Threads were solely not intended for addressing issues, but help with development ie, helping to fix errors. But now, majority of them just posts what's not working a 100 times, even if its a beta build.
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And that's why Q&A section is meant for. Development Threads were solely not intended for addressing issues, but help with development ie, helping to fix errors. But now, majority of them just posts what's not working a 100 times, even if its a beta build.
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Alright I have posted my issue in the Q&A section. But really if there is a specific issue with a rom wouldn't I want to get the devs attention ASAP. I can't imagine rom devs are watching every thread in the Q&A section specific to their rom.
Ugh...
I started this thread to clarify what the rules are.
I didn't realize I risked getting buried in replies arguing about what the rules should be.
I'd ask people to start another thread if they want to discuss what the rules should be, but not sure it'll help...
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Ugh...
I started this thread to clarify what the rules are.
I didn't realize I risked getting buried in replies arguing about what the rules should be.
I'd ask people to start another thread if they want to discuss what the rules should be, but not sure it'll help...
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It probably won't help, people just seem to love to argue about what the rules should be...
Seeing as you've got an answer to your original question I'll just close this and prevent the inevitable "OMG TEN PST RUL SUXXX" posts.
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I really dislike this.
Not every new user is a noob who hasn't done their research before posting.
Right now I have a major issue with a rom and can't post on the thread because I don't have permission...
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Tbh, I'd be very surprised if your issue hasn't happened to somebody before with the solution in said rom thread already
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Alright I have posted my issue in the Q&A section. But really if there is a specific issue with a rom wouldn't I want to get the devs attention ASAP. I can't imagine rom devs are watching every thread in the Q&A section specific to their rom.
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...and I'd be extremely surprised if this serious issue wasn't already know by said rom developer
This thread is aimed at teaching new users the way to be able to post in a development thread WITHOUT spamming or posting rubbish and help you get along better in the development threads.
I know that this thread will probably be ignored by most users who this is aimed at, BUT if it helps teach even a few users then this has been worth it.
**As of January 2016, you no longer need to have 10 posts to be able to post in development threads. To be able to create your own thread in the development forums you will need to have 50 posts though.
If you have a thread you'd like to post into the development forum but you don't have enough posts, you can create your thread in the General section for your device and then ask a Moderator of that forum to move it into the Development forum for you.**
First, let's look at why new users generally want to be able to post in a development thread ;
*They think it's the cool place to hangout.
*They think their question will be answered quicker.
*They want to say thanks to a developer for the work that they've done.
*They think their question is important and should be posted in development.
Now, let's explain the truth about the 4 points above ;
*Development threads are NOT the cool place to hangout. As this is a development forum there's no need to hangout but if you really feel the need to relax and hangout with other members, then participate in some discussions in the General section of your device.
*Your question will NOT be answered any quicker by posting it in a development thread. If you take a look at every single device forum on XDA, you'll see that the Q&A forum will always have more posts and threads than development forums will.
*While it's nice that you want to thank the developer for their hard work, making a post saying "Thanks" will only fill up the thread with useless posts. To stop this, XDA admins added a Thanks button which you will see at the bottom of every post on this forum (as long as you have made 1 post). If you're using the XDA app, just click on the relevant post and you'll see a few options appear. One of those options is "Thanks".
If you think that clicking the Thanks button is not enough then you could always donate to the developer to help them carry on development.
*While your question may well be important, it still doesn't belong in the development section. You may get flamed if you post your question there as all questions should be posted in the Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting forum. Development is only intended for development.
What's the best way for me to make 50 posts?
*As is mentioned a lot when talking about new users, the best way to make your first 50 posts is to go to your device forum and see if you can help some people in the Q&A forum. This is a great thing to do because it means you can help others learn more from you helping them with their questions. You may also gain some Thanks along the way.
*If you can't answer the questions, either because they're too hard OR others answer them too quickly, you go into your devices General forum and get involved in some discussions about your phone. This is a great thing to do because it can teach you some things which you didn't know about your device + you may be able to share what you've learnt which others may not know about. It also gives you a good introduction to your forum and the people you will see there.
*If you can't contribute towards any of the discussions either then you can also have a look around the following forums and see if you can help people in the forums aswell - General, Questions & Answers, Android General and Android Q&A.
How can I get involved with the development community?
Well, being active is the simple answer.
As you'll notice across XDA, the type of posts allowed in development threads are decided by the developer. Some developers want dev talk only. The won't want any kind of questions or general comments. Most, however, don't really mind what kind of posts go into their thread. Most will allow questions and a small amount of off topic chatter to happen within their thread. This allows a small community to grow - one who uses this certain piece of development and can help out others along the way. Getting involved in such small communities is great because you can learn a lot, help people a lot and even make your way towards those 50 posts needed to create your own thread in the development forums.
Now that you've read through this thread, you will know the best and easiest way to make your first 50 posts. If you see any other members who are not following this guidance, feel free to link them to this thread so that they can learn from it aswell. Now you're good to go!
Good job, I added a link from the new user guide. :good:
This is definitely the thing that was needed.
@KidCarter93,you have done a good job
:good: :good:
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Seriosly, the rule annoys me, having 10 posts does not mean you have any idea about developement...
Half of the posts in the dev threads i follow are exactly the kind of posts that are tried to prevent with this rule... The authors of the posts often have 100+ posts but show they do not have any idea...
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You are right.. if the rule wasn't there.. think what might have happened.. it prevents users from creating account and jump to development section.. it lets you understand how the site works when you are gaining 10 posts..
You can always report such posts you mentioned or you can suggest better alternative if you have one in alternative to 10 post rule thread here..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2115765
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Good job, I added a link from the new user guide. :good:
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Well done mate !
Just added a link from the New members friendly Q&A thread.
Nice write up you always do a good job with these things.
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Thx for the advice
Being one of the users this thread is aimed at, I say thank you.
Your tone is friendly and not arrogant, the advice seems helpful and reasonable.
And I say this although I'm one of the users who's reason to post is not listed in your first argument about "why new users generally want to be able to post in a development thread".
I actually wanted to post, to report on a currently discussed issue, that seemed to be not clear yet and help another user by linking to a thread about Link2SD to help him resolve his issue.
But I understand and accept the rules - that's why I'm off now to the Q&A for the SGA. Maybe I can share my experiences with flashing my device there
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Being one of the users this thread is aimed at, I say thank you.
Your tone is friendly and not arrogant, the advice seems helpful and reasonable.
And I say this although I'm one of the users who's reason to post is not listed in your first argument about "why new users generally want to be able to post in a development thread".
I actually wanted to post, to report on a currently discussed issue, that seemed to be not clear yet and help another user by linking to a thread about Link2SD to help him resolve his issue.
But I understand and accept the rules - that's why I'm off now to the Q&A for the SGA. Maybe I can share my experiences with flashing my device there
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I'd just like to say thanks for doing things "properly". When you first posted the above comment, I kept an eye on your posts to see what you were posting. I was actually pleasently surprised to see you were posting the way this thread asks for it to be done.
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I'd just like to say thanks for doing things "properly". When you first posted the above comment, I kept an eye on your posts to see what you were posting. I was actually pleasently surprised to see you were posting the way this thread asks for it to be done.
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Even if I run the risk of posting the occasional "useless" post here, let me say thanks for saying thanks .
Feels good to be appreciated.
This forum is wonderful, just like most of the regulars here.
It's a pity, that for many noobs the substance of the first post is not common sense, but I guess most noobs are also noobs to life itself (unlike me ), and still have to learn the meaning of "If you wish for potatoes, you better grab a hoe!".
But you know how it is, haters gonna hate and noobs will be noobs
What about experienced devs who happen to be new to xda?
Thanks for the post, those are good points about how to make your 10 posts, but I can't help but feel a little frustrated as a long time software developer but new xda user:
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First, let's look at why new users generally want to be able to post in a development thread ;
*They think it's the cool place to hangout.
*They think their question will be answered quicker.
*They want to say thanks to a developer for the work that they've done.
*They think their question is important and should be posted in development.
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The ROM I use uses XDA as their main bug reporting platform, I have a legitimate bug report to make but it's a bit annoying having to jump through hoops to report it
brainflakes said:
Thanks for the post, those are good points about how to make your 10 posts, but I can't help but feel a little frustrated as a long time software developer but new xda user:
The ROM I use uses XDA as their main bug reporting platform, I have a legitimate bug report to make but it's a bit annoying having to jump through hoops to report it
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Well, you can pm the dev or any active user in that thread to post it in behalf of you. Or just make 10 posts as xda is more than just a single rom and you would surely like to get involved sooner or later
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Deadly said:
Well, you can pm the dev or any active user in that thread to post it in behalf of you. Or just make 10 posts as xda is more than just a single rom and you would surely like to get involved sooner or later
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Well, I wouldn't know who was best to hassle with a PM Anyway yeah I'm just bringing my post number up by answering Q&A questions, I suppose helping a few users out is "payment" for being able to use the dev forum
brainflakes said:
Thanks for the post, those are good points about how to make your 10 posts, but I can't help but feel a little frustrated as a long time software developer but new xda user:
The ROM I use uses XDA as their main bug reporting platform, I have a legitimate bug report to make but it's a bit annoying having to jump through hoops to report it
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Experienced devs could always write to a moderator and ask for the restriction to be lifted for their account. Surprisingly few do this however, but generally just start helping people and get to 10 pretty quickly.
Thank you,
mikef
XDA Senior Moderator
thanks for information
going to dhd forum to help other guys......
Notes taken :good:
I already have more than 10 posts, how come I still cant post in development?
MilkEven said:
I already have more than 10 posts, how come I still cant post in development?
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Sometimes it can take up to an hour before your able to post in development because of the system refreshing itself.
If it becomes over an hour since your tenth post, your best option would be to contact a moderator who could then get it sorted for you
Your question shouldn't have been asked in here though.
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hey guys, i got now 10 posts, but still cannot post in developer forum :/
*edit* ... already answered... im stupid
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hey guys, i got now 10 posts, but still cannot post in developer forum :/
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Sometimes it can take up to an hour before your able to post in development because of the system refreshing itself.
If it becomes over an hour since your tenth post, your best option would be to contact a moderator who could then get it sorted for you
Your question shouldn't have been asked in here though.
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Developer frustration
I totally see the point... BUT: As a developer wanting to help by sharing modules/code on a development thread I was thwarted by the ten post rule.
Sure, I can take the time to "help" in other threads so that I can ultimately help in the thread that I originally intended but it makes me wonder how many skilled developers are refraining from helping simply because they don't have the time or inclination to get to the ten post count.
In the spirit of helping people that are having the same problem as I had (that drove me to develop the module I'm planning on posting) I will persevere.