[Q] Development posting - About xda-developers.com

Why is the forum setup where you need 10 posts to be able to post in a development thread? Just because someone may not be actively posting on the site doesn't mean that they don't have a clue what is going on when it comes to development. (Obviously I'm using this for one of my posts because this deal is really dumb)

For an explanation, please see the link in my sig "Postcount limit in Dev fora" or 1 of the many other threads in this section explaining it.

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Can a mod/admin/op review something I posted and let me know if I am in the wrong?

I posted in what I thought was the correct place, I thought about my fellow XDAers, and the rules of posting but a member felt I was out of place.
I would like to know; was my post innappropriate placed?
Within the Fourm Raphael Rom Dev http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=440
I posted [Question]Energy Rom version help...pretty easy.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5022297#post5022297
Can someone please review and let me know if I am out of line so I can improve my XDA forum grace?
I appreciate your time.
Thresher
Althoughwe can appreciate thought has been put into the wereabouts of the query you indeed placed it in a DEVELOPMENT forum. this forum is for development posts from developers and helpers
you question would have been better either posted in the forum concernred with the roms you are asking about or sent to the chef who makes the rom you use
Thank you for the correction. Can you delete my thread at the above location than since it is improperly posted, I do not want to cause issue. I posted [Question]Energy Rom version help...pretty easy.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...97#post5022297
Thanks!
Hi Threser,
If you take a quick gander at the annoucment in the Raphael ROM development forum, you'll see mrvanx has covered the general forum etiquette for starting new threads, and what the content of the ROM development forum is usually reserved for.
I know it can be frustrating when posting in threads as busy as NRG's because some questions just get overlooked, but the answers are there in the forums - in your case: NRG's ROM versions depend on what official (or beta) ROM he's using or what Manila version he's using.
P.S. Closed your thread for you, before the flamers get in
Thanks
Dave

Admins/Mods help me post in Dev section!

I've been lurking the Dev section for months, and I've been on the Mikfroyo thread daily since december. My phone has been rooted for a long time, I've tried a wide variety of ROMs/Kernels/Apps and have encountered and solved my fair share of problems through research without posting.
I'm a n00b, maybe, but by no means should I STILL be blocked from posting in the Dev section. I have a serious and valid question for the Mikfroyo thread regarding his upcoming Z port release, but I also have relevant experience to help some of the clearly more n00bish posters there who somehow have posting rights...
I was tricked into wasting forum space and spending the last hour trying to post 10 relevant posts to threads I'm not even interested in. As I said, I lurk the Dev section almost exclusively, and have for awhile.
Anyways, I've posted more than the 10 required posts to get rights to post in the Dev section, so this is my plea to please allow me rights to post there.
once you have 10 it should allow you, are you sill unable?
are you trying to post a new thread or respond in an existing thread?

why ten post

All I want is to post my questions and answers in the rom forum of my choice
ya, i thought that was dumb too. i dont really care about the rest, just trying to figure out this rom
What rom would the be
The ten post limit is because alot of new members post questions in the dev section. If you are a general user of xda then a ten post limit is nothing.
Maybe try a different heading thay describes your problem in a nutshell. By the way what is your problem, you never said.
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Answer in this thread ten times and you will get your ten post
I agree with the ten post rule and actually believe it should be a higher number
Or even better if you had to be approved by a mod to be able to.post in the Dev section
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Yeah, it is not that hard to get ten posts. Besides all you really need to do is read for a while. The development section is for the pros not for the questions that have been asked a thousand times
That is what this section is for!
i8qbert said:
Yeah, it is not that hard to get ten posts. Besides all you really need to do is read for a while. The development section is for the pros not for the questions that have been asked a thousand times
That is what this section is for!
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You could at least post your "10" in different threads....
If they want the development section to be developers, than I can understand that but it seems strange to ask a question about say, Myn's Warm TwoPointTwo here rather than on a thread about it.
srvxda said:
If they want the development section to be developers, than I can understand that but it seems strange to ask a question about say, Myn's Warm TwoPointTwo here rather than on a thread about it.
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Not at all, actually. While myself and others are also guilty of posting such banter in ROM threads, that isn't where it actually belongs. Questions posted in the ROM threads should be posted only if they're concerning the actual development of the ROM rather than the usual "how do I...?" or "wow, this Rom is great, thanks dev!".
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=713251
It appears a reminder may be in order, about the purpose of the development fora on XDA.
If you have developed a ROM, or are working with others to do so, the development forum is somewhere to discuss and share ideas, post useful feedback and logs or crash dumps, and to discuss a common goal developers are trying to achieve.
It is NOT the place to post your question because it gets higher traffic, or because more experienced users frequent it. Doing this just annoys those who are working on the device, and drives them away. Developers don't want to wade through 20 threads of "Help me urgently" to find their threads for porting and fixing camera issues etc. Similarly, if a thread is designated as discussion for developers say, porting a camera fix, please do not post in there asking "When will it be ready?", "Can I flash this yet?" etc. This is both completely disrespectful to those working on the project (you evidently haven't read the important posts in the thread), and also is making it harder for developers to find comments from other developers or testers when required.
Similarly, don't make loads of "Thanks for your work here" posts in an active development thread. It's just as annoying to developers as asking when something will be ready. If a ROM is complete, then go ahead and thank the developer if you wish, but don't go into threads for devs only, and interrupt it to post "thanks". It's basically spamming, and is treated as such.
If you are posting in development, you should have read every sticky and notice there, and should be actively developing or helping in the development of something. Developing isn't installing a ROM, or using a tweak, it's creating a ROM or other hack or tweak. If you haven't read for several days before starting out on XDA, you are likely about to ask something already solved. I registered on XDA when I first wanted to post, and that was to join in a discussion on something. Sure, join up and ask a question, but read the information available in General and Q&A first, as your question will have been asked before. Search is your friend here, become familiar with it.
Regarding when to post in development if you are not actually developing something, there is one occasion where it's acceptable. If you find a leak of a new ROM, which isn't already posted, and you verify it's legitimacy via either running it, or based on the source you obtained it from, then this is assisting in development, and should be posted in development. If you want to ask when a leak will be available use search first, then if not already in discussion, open a thread in general or Q&A.
If you have a problem flashing a ROM, this is NOT related to development. It's up to you to determine if it is specific to a particular ROM, and post useful information in that developer's existing thread for the ROM. If it happens on more than one ROM, and isn't a known issue (remember you should read several times more words than you post), then find out what you are doing wrong. Check guides written by others, try to repeat the problem and see if it happens every time. Something needs to be reproducible to be fixed effectively.
Once you have identified what you need help with go to the device Q&A forum (general if device lacks one), and make a clear, informative thread that explains the issue, and what you have tried doing to fix it. Did you re-download the ROM? Did you ask a friend to flash it for you, to reduce chance of user error? What steps (exactly) did you follow? What errors did you see (exact wording)? Did you double check all the steps? Did you do a wipe or hard reset?
If you make a clear, concise, yet detailed post, you will find help forthcoming, and should get the problem sorted very quickly. If someone suggests you try something, report back on what happened, did it work etc. Then, next time someone has this issue and searches, they will find this and have a verified and tested solution.
So remember... before you start a thread in development, ask yourself what you are developing. If you can't answer, then stop, step away from the post button, and think about where you are posting. Would it be better in General or Q&A, or is some more time with your best friend, search, required?
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Ten posts?
I tend to read and only contribute if I have something to say. Not in this case! Now I have to post just to post. Gee this is kinda fun. I think I will start posting meaningless drivel on more topics. Thanks ten post rule!
Ya post Hi in the introduction thread then Thank everyone who welcomed you. Hell, there's at least 2 or 3 post. Then check out the development (apps/games) and find something you want there and thank them for their hard work.
10 posts shouldn't take you more than a few days if you're active. Don't need them anyway as the question you're wanting to ask has already been asked.
10 post is annoying, but I understand the reason. Post.
This is the reason for the 10 post rule.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1121527
I realize that this post had over 100 post, but not the place for their post.
My question is why our devs dont have a dev title instead of Senior Member I mean that why some devs leave XDA and get their own website because they don't get the credit or place that they deserve....??
1107963 said:
My question is why our devs dont have a dev title instead of Senior Member I mean that why some devs leave XDA and get their own website because they don't get the credit or place that they deserve....??
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You need to apply for the dev title only some get it i just found out about it like 2 days ago
JoelZ9614 said:
You need to apply for the dev title only some get it i just found out about it like 2 days ago
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I think that makes sense. That way not just anyone can say I am a dev. I think that with the work your guys do it should have some prestige to it.
Dumb
The only reason I use XDA is as a root resource; this is just irritating that I have to post these ten msgs.

[Q] Posts on the Development forums

Why do I have to make 10 posts to be able to post questions on the development forums?
I'm not a newbie, not an expert either but I use custom roms and I can't ask any questions because I can't post.
I agree with this, its a huge turn off and posting 10 random things ( 50 minutes worth since we also cant post but every 5 minutes.. ) in general is pointless. Id like to be able to do what I joined the forum for. Post in the section that peaks my interest.
Most roms have a Q&A thread. If not start onebin the Q&A section for your question. All questions should be in the Q&A forums. People posting non development related question in the development section is the reason for the rule.
oscarba said:
Why do I have to make 10 posts to be able to post questions on the development forums?
I'm not a newbie, not an expert either but I use custom roms and I can't ask any questions because I can't post.
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No questions in the development forums.
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ScriptProdigy said:
I agree with this, its a huge turn off and posting 10 random things ( 50 minutes worth since we also cant post but every 5 minutes.. ) in general is pointless. Id like to be able to do what I joined the forum for. Post in the section that peaks my interest.
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Then don't waste 50 minutes posting pointless crap. Spend time making useful and constructive posts. If you have something worth saying in the development forums then this will cause you no problem at all....
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Tbf those first ten posts teach you the significance of replying on the formns and do generally reduce the amount of spam on the developers section subsequently.. although I completely support what zelenden is saying.
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zelendel said:
Most roms have a Q&A thread. If not start onebin the Q&A section for your question. All questions should be in the Q&A forums. People posting non development related question in the development section is the reason for the rule.
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YES, You are right, most of the ROMs have this part of Q&A or FAQ, But when we don't find the answers, we need to post a question.
Also I need to put a question when my device is stuck in a point, I searched the entire thread by using the "Search this thread" tool, and have no answer.
Sure at this time I need to post a question.
I'm using the internet about 17 yrs ago, and I feel these yrs are very enough to enable me to post a question without posting random words here or there and wasting your time as well as mine, just to count 10 posts.
I wish I didn't bother you. but I honestly passed my feeling.
Regards
wisenada said:
YES, You are right, most of the ROMs have this part of Q&A or FAQ, But when we don't find the answers, we need to post a question.
Also I need to put a question when my device is stuck in a point, I searched the entire thread by using the "Search this thread" tool, and have no answer.
Sure at this time I need to post a question.
I'm using the internet about 17 yrs ago, and I feel these yrs are very enough to enable me to post a question without posting random words here or there and wasting your time as well as mine, just to count 10 posts.
I wish I didn't bother you. but I honestly passed my feeling.
Regards
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That's why you post your question in the Q&A thread. Or make a new thread in the Q&A section. So you can ask your question.
No worries man. It takes alot to bother me lol
Q&A is Questions & Answers section in case that needed explaining. each device usually has a:
General area
Questions & Answers area
DEVELOPMENT area
Applications area
you ask about posting questions in DEVELOPMENT, but they should go in Questions & Answers
i notice a slight language barrier in that last one.

Cannot post in Development threads?

Any Idea why??
myonlyst4r, you do not have permission to access this page. This could be due to one of several reasons:
Please Read: New members (those with fewer than 10 posts) are not permitted to post to development-related forums. The developer forums are intended for experienced users and developers to discuss ways to improve technical aspects related to ROMs and Software. While you may be an expert, we ask ALL users to avoid posting questions about using or installing ROMs and software in the Development Forums. To encourage this new Users can read but not post in these forums.
To ask Questions about developing your device, installing ROMs, software and themes you must go to the Q&A or General Forum.
Remember, your question has very likely been asked already, so please search before posting.
Your user account may not have sufficient privileges to access this page. Are you trying to edit someone else's post, access administrative features or some other privileged system?
If you are trying to post, the administrator may have disabled your account, or it may be awaiting activation.
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You have few posts.
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Loll u need 10 posts!!!
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myonlyst4r said:
Any Idea why??
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A little reading goes a long way, especially in the dev section. You quoted the answer to your question in the OP
aeakin said:
A little reading goes a long way, especially in the dev section. You quoted the answer to your question in the OP
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Hence the reason for the restrictions ....lol
I already have > 10 posts....
how am i supposed to post 10 posts? it will just be spam then..
i mean all i wanted to post was a thank u for my rom developer (krarvind, slim bean rocks) and ask about new features etc
zeddicus0 said:
how am i supposed to post 10 posts? it will just be spam then..
i mean all i wanted to post was a thank u for my rom developer (krarvind, slim bean rocks) and ask about new features etc
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Spamming ten posts isn't a great idea. Try and post something meaningful and maybe try and help some others in the Q&A threads.
Rom development threads aren't really the place to post a thank you, that's why there is a thanks button. Also feature requests probably would be better suited in the Q&A thread for that rom. If it doesn't have one already maybe one can be started.
Same problem.
I am also having a problem posting on development related threads. I am having a problem and cannot let anyone know. I already have 11 posts, why am I still getting the same message that I cannot post? Any help?
I agree that the ten posts thing is ridiculous. I have been pulling my hair out trying to solve a problem, and I found a thread which discussed a possible solution to that problem, but was having some difficulty with it working, and wanted to post the specifics of my problem and how they related to the solution presented to see if it was reasonable to think the solution might work. Instead, I am treated to a condescending message telling me, in effect to take a hike (to put it politely). I don't have time to come up with ten meaningful contributions before I get help solving the problem I am having - heck, I wasn't even sure from the message where I was even supposed to post such messages, since it said I can't post to "development-related forums" - what else is there on a site called xda-developers, anyway? I only found this thread using google to search for this whole ten posts nonsense.
And then, some of the responses by certain moderators seemed down-right rude, for instance one post complaining about how they wanted to thank the author for a post and report some minor issues was countered by a moderator who apparently didn't even read that part and closed the thread, declaring that their post had proved the need for the rule, as the person obviously hadn't learned "how to search" which doesn't even make sense consider the original poster already implied they HAD since otherwise how would you thank someone for something they found helpful and contribute findings on it?
Anyway, the best I could do was to send a private message to the most recent poster who appeared to be knowledgeable about the topic and hope for a reply. They were not the original poster, nor were they one of several other people knowledgable who had previously posted; this is thus a sub-optimal solution. Furthermore, any replies directly to me won't be shared with the world, meaning it won't help anyone with the same problem as me.
And you expect me to contribute in the future after treating me this way?
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The ten post rule is to fight spammers and people who don't search cluttering up development threads with support questions. It's not hard to get ten meaningful posts. I understand frustrations when you're trying to figure out a problem, you've done the best which is ask someone knowledgeable for help, but the rule is in place for a reason.

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