For the past few days i have been getting a "H" by the bars instead of "3G". Any ideas, I am hoping its not for "Home" and i am loosing 3G
T-Mobile TP2 With Tmo WM 6.5
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Tmobile, With the new TMO 6.5
Be Happy!
Read the GOOD news.
http://www.brighthand.com/default.asp?newsID=16066&news=T-Mobile+3G+HSPA+7.2Mbps+LTE
Yea i know of the upgrade. Dident think it would change the bars.
It's purely cosmetic anyways, I wouldn't worry too much about it. In fact, the setting can be changed in one or more of the tweak utilities. The Tilt 2 has the opposite issue. The stock ROM only shows 3G instead of H.
I'm on AT&T and I get the H all the time. I don't really notice any speed difference though.
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Tmobile, With the new TMO 6.5
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boy that sure would suck if we had to go back to the stock rom to get the"H"
innovator8 said:
boy that sure would suck if we had to go back to the stock rom to get the"H"
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well I jusr installed the new radio and I see no difference. I still show "h" sometimes and 3g other times. when I tether and use speedtest.net I still can't get over 1Mbps.
innovator8 said:
well I jusr installed the new radio and I see no difference. I still show "h" sometimes and 3g other times. when I tether and use speedtest.net I still can't get over 1Mbps.
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Doesnt the H has nothing to do with the radio rom?? it's just in what area you are where the signal is the strongest.. 3G, Hdspa, or Gprs.. In the stupid little pesantville i live i often get only 'G' for gprs,, i only get 3g in the big cities..
you just have 'H' because theres no strong 3G signal in your area
xdadJeroen said:
Doesnt the H has nothing to do with the radio rom?? it's just in what area you are where the signal is the strongest.. 3G, Hdspa, or Gprs.. In the stupid little pesantville i live i often get only 'G' for gprs,, i only get 3g in the big cities..
you just have 'H' because theres no strong 3G signal in your area
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Being in your shoes I would be happy to see H instead of 3G as it is 3.5G rather than 3G ;-)
H stands for the latest standard HSPA (where HSDPA --> High Speed Download & HSUPA --> HS Upload) while 3G is a generic High Speed network of 3rd generation.
With 3.5G one is getting up to 7.2Mbit per second Download and up to 2.4Mbit per second Upload while with 3G it is well below 1Mbit per second in both cases.
Of course, it is UP TO and depends on particular implementation...
Cheers.
ksmm said:
Being in your shoes I would be happy to see H instead of 3G as it is 3.5G rather than 3G ;-)
H stands for the latest standard HSPA (where HSDPA --> High Speed Download & HSUPA --> HS Upload) while 3G is a generic High Speed network of 3rd generation.
With 3.5G one is getting up to 7.2Mbit per second Download and up to 2.4Mbit per second Upload while with 3G it is well below 1Mbit per second in both cases.
Of course, it is UP TO and depends on particular implementation...
Cheers.
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h
there was an article last week about tmobile upgrading thier network to hspa, theoreticle 7.2Mbps. with the rom that came with my tmo tp2, i never showed the "h", when i went to the energyb rom series, i was often showing an "h" but there was no differance in my speed. it is clear to me that the tmo hspa 7.2 upgrade has not hit here in seattle yet. i just upgraded my radio as i saw that someone in a previous post has the official tmo 6.5 upgrade and he was gettting 4mbps.
i sure do hope that tmo gets this working in seattle soon...
Sorry, this doesn't mean anything usually. If you are running non-stock (aka flashed) then most likely it just is the ROM that changes the 3G to H. I am on ATT and that just is what took place of the 3G icon. It doesn't mean anything else. Now, on stock ROM's it could.
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After about a week plus of having my TP2, i realize that where i normally am surfing the net, i don't have HSDPA anymore. All i get is 3G. It's strange cos when i put the sim card into my TP, it gets HSDPA right away.
I've taken my TP2 out and in town, it gets HSDPA so that pretty much confirms that there is no setting problem. I've flashed with all the available Radio from the radio thread and none seem to help. I still can't get HSDPA where i'm sitting now while my TP would have full strength.
Anybody else has this problem? Is there a way to force HSDPA connection?
Anybody?
I just hard reset my TP2 and still no "H". Took the TP2 out for a drive closer to tonw and i get "H" which again means nothing is wrong with the settings portion.
Take the sim card out and put it into my TP, i get a strong full strength "H" from where my TP2 could not get
Weird & sad cos i use my data plan a lot.
Try downloading something and see if actively using the data connection switches it over from 3g to H
Let me preface by saying I don't have TP2 yet, still waiting on AT&T
I think without using something like Advanced Config (assuming there is a rhodium version), it will only show 3G even if it is in fact an HSDPA signal. You can adjust the setting with advanced config to enable the H display. But it is just enabling the icon I believe.
With the stock rom on my worldwide version it comes up with H when i use the data connection, otherwise it sits on 3g even in full reception ;- ) why i suggested it
worldwide edition is; world 3G on GSM right? where can you get that one!
Axeslocked said:
worldwide edition is; world 3G on GSM right? where can you get that one!
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Worldwide except the USA I believe. Otherwise I would have bought it long ago
dammit!
I want to upgrade to this **** from my TyTN that is falling apart but no Canada 3G until 2010 quarter 2. thats when rogers upgrades to 2100
HSDPA is 3G. Some taskbars on the Touch Pro 2 label a 3G connection as "H" or HSDPA.
You are getting the same data speeds regardless of whether the "H" or the "3G" symbol can be seen on your phone.
However if you get an "E" or a "G" that means you will get EDGE speeds and GSM speeds respectively.
The fastest is as follows from left to right: 3G > EDGE > GSM
Thanx for the reply guys.
HSDPA is faster then 3G right? Or did i get that information wrong
Anyway HSDPA is already enable in my TP2 as when i move to other locations...say closer to town, i do get "H". I just feel that the reception is not as strong as that of the TP cos at home where my TP has HSDPA connection, my TP2 does not
Everybody T-Mobile has released the HSPA. http://www.phonedog.com/cell-phone-research/blog/t-mobile-planning-for-21-mbps-hspa+-in-2010.aspx
So post your speed... I will post mine in a few. Did anyone notice any speed changes lately?
Freddy2Fred said:
Everybody T-Mobile has released the HSPA. http://www.phonedog.com/cell-phone-research/blog/t-mobile-planning-for-21-mbps-hspa+-in-2010.aspx
So post your speed... I will post mine in a few. Did anyone notice any speed changes lately?
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In all 15 markets they have 3G in today? It's great T-Mobile can afford this, but it's because their coverage is is non-existent.
i would alwais have H (HSPA) but now i have 3G -_- wtf?!
At least you all have 3G...... Of course AT&T has had 3G down here forever.
so heres a secret......philadelphia is a test market for HSPA+ and its all ready working in south jersey as well.
no cause y would i go from H to 3G wack. but tru atleast have 3G. hope igt my H back =[
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You just made my day. I am in the minneapolis area and I am consistently reporting speeds of around 1000kbps. Highest I've seen was 1.3 on dsl reports but I think that was an anomaly. Previously I was getting around 400-500kbps. and this is in a building where I get horrable reception. If I've got 1 bar and 3g I'm a very happy camper.
S3BAZ10 said:
i would alwais have H (HSPA) but now i have 3G -_- wtf?!
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I'm glad I'm not the only one who stopped getting the H symbol all the time after Tmo released this info. Now it's just 3G with an occasional H. Oh well, it's still 3G!
btw, this is in Phoenix.
xnifex said:
I'm glad I'm not the only one who stopped getting the H symbol all the time after Tmo released this info. Now it's just 3G with an occasional H. Oh well, it's still 3G!
btw, this is in Phoenix.
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ikno wen i surf the web the H would come up for only like 1min nd den bk to 3g. booo tmobile =/
Here in Atlanta I pretty much always have a H. I rarely see 3G and when I do it will be for a second before turning to E. The speeds are amazing though. T-Mobile has been smoking my Verizon phone and my Sprint Data card.
Of what I've seen is that usually the H comes up when there is data transmission, if the connections is IDLE then it bumps back to 3G... at least is the behavior I had with the old Kaiser and now the Rhodium.
Yanks! Ha Ha... supposed to be world leaders in tech... Yeah right, they even believe their own propoganda!
HK, UK, UEA... to name a few have had HSDPA for ages (OK, UK pays an arm and a leg for mobile data!!!) BUT!! the big difference is WE HAVE ALMOST TOTAL COVERAGE BY EACH NETWORK!!
Don't have any bandwidth restictions on ours or teliscopic antenna half a yard long.
Why do you think every mobile manufaturer has to mod their units specifically for USA??
Catch up guys....
Jokes BTW...
yeah I have noticed the last couple days that my H is almost always 3G now. I was concerned until I saw this information.
Had my Desire for a while now, and I'm just wondering why my internet connection jumps from 'H' straight down to 'G', seemingly bypassing 3G.
Anyone else got this happening?
this happens to me but only when im on a train which is understandable
it shouldnt happen if you are stationary
HSUPA is 3G just an enhanced version, so if you lose HSUPA it will just jump to G/E
I get H, 3G or G, I've never once seen Edge at all.
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I get H, 3G or G, I've never once seen Edge at all.
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That's because T-Mobile never bothered to implement EDGE on their network. As far as I'm aware, only O2 and Orange have implemented EDGE, and O2 only did it because of the original iPhone 2G contract.
Regards,
Dave
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That's because T-Mobile never bothered to implement EDGE on their network. As far as I'm aware, only O2 and Orange have implemented EDGE, and O2 only did it because of the original iPhone 2G contract.
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Dave
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I see, thanks for the info.
Seen EDGE once, that's it haha
No what I mean though, is fine, I'll be getting GPRS signal pretty much anywhere I go, and should be getting H signal in city's and largely populated areas, which I do (while it is pretty flakey). But inbetween those gaps, shouldn't I be getting 3G signal, in the areas with no H?
At the moment if I have no HSPA it goes straight to G, just completely missing the 3G areas, is this normal?
Sorry, tried making myself as clear as possible here
This is common problem with the Desire. Try dialling *#*#4636#*#* and then changing from wcdma preferred GSM auto (PRL). It's helped for a few people, including myself. A search will dig up a few useful threads
weird, I only see H and E and G. Have never ever seen 3G and I monitor it closely too.
HSUPA is 3G just an enhanced version, so if you lose HSUPA it will just jump to G/E
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This. As long as you are not on an internet package that doesn't allow HSDPA then you should only see the H symbol, not 3G, when in range. Before I contacted T-mobile I was stuck on their normal Web 'n' Walk that restricted the speed so I was only ever seeing 3G. After being upgraded to the W 'n' W Plus I never see 3G anymore flick between H and G depending on my signal.
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This. As long as you are not on an internet package that doesn't allow HSDPA then you should only see the H symbol, not 3G, when in range.
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Sorry, but that is incorrect.
I'm on T-Mobile, and I regular see G, 3G, and H depending on where I am.
Right now, my phone is sitting on my desk in my office and is showing 3G. If I run a speed test, it immediately jumps to H and I get results of 1877kbps down and 476kbps up, so I'm definitely provisioned for HSDPA.
So, you can be correctly provisioned for HSDPA and still see the 3G symbol, though it would appear that this will jump to H pretty much as soon as you start using data.
Regards,
Dave
HSDPA (H) is a lot faster than 3G, but not all mobile masts have the right equipment to use it. If an HSDPA cell is available on a mast then your phone will only show H and never 3G. However, if the mast is not configured for HSDPA it will show 3G.
If a handset is connected using 3G/HSDPA and the signal is weak/lost it will drop down to 2G(G)/EDGE.
Most issues people have with the handset dropping down to 2G will be coverage/signal related. Best thing to do is try it in another area. If the connection is stable in any other place you are in then there is nothing wrong with the handset.
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So, you can be correctly provisioned for HSDPA and still see the 3G symbol, though it would appear that this will jump to H pretty much as soon as you start using data.
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HSDPA is data-only so the handset will show 3G if not using data. As soon as a data connection is established/requested it will change to HSDPA (H) if it is available. 3G is for voice/texts and also data if no HSDPA is available.
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I get H, 3G or G, I've never once seen Edge at all.
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I only get H/G here in the UK, but a recent trip to Paris had me only on E. It's dependant on what the carrier is using.
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This. As long as you are not on an internet package that doesn't allow HSDPA then you should only see the H symbol, not 3G, when in range. Before I contacted T-mobile I was stuck on their normal Web 'n' Walk that restricted the speed so I was only ever seeing 3G. After being upgraded to the W 'n' W Plus I never see 3G anymore flick between H and G depending on my signal.
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Bull****... It is like Edge and Gprs, Edge is a "better" version of the normal Gprs, you get >Edge where ever Edge is available, otherwise normal Gprs.
Same to HSDPA and 3G (umts) thats why i get mostly 3G here and HSDPA not that often, because my Provider has bad availability of HSDPA.
I was just wondering if there was an app that showed when I was actully on HSPA+ or just 3G cause as far as I can tell its either H, E or G. I've yet to see 3G. Id like to be able to see without going to settings, about phone, status. Cause I want to run speed tests on HSPA+.
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I think if you go to phone status. You would be connected under umts which would be 3g or hspa as hspa+ but hspa n umts its technically the same thing. It never shows hspa+ even though I live within the coverage with hspa+
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That would explain why my speed test have been the same on umts and hspad on the status section =( thx mate
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When in a HSPA+ area your phone should show HSDPA under About Phone>Status>Mobile Network Type. The 'H' indicator will show no matter what 3G network you're connected to. I'm assuming T-Mobile did this to avoid confusion between 3G and HSPA+ which is technically still 3G.
Yea I know I was just looking for like a widget that told me constantly so I know when I can speed test
fRom Snugs G2 ^.^
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Yea I know I was just looking for like a widget that told me constantly so I know when I can speed test
fRom Snugs G2 ^.^
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I was just going to post this. Would be a great widget to have.
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I was just going to post this. Would be a great widget to have.
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Yes it would. I'd give it a try but I'm clueless on how to make an app =(
fRom Snugs G2 ^.^
I have been using Netswidget. It seems to do the job, possibly a little buggy still at times. But it does show edge, umts and hsdpa on it. I even saw gprs the other day for a brief moment out in the sticks. But it seems to work fine for me.
I have mobile signal widget. Changes icon for edge, 3g, and hspa.
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Max download 0.89!
Hello,
I am new to Android - do I have to turn on something to get higher speeds?
I consitently get 0.89 no matter where I am.
In fact, our region is listed as 4G speeds on TMobile website... McLean VA.
I am thinking a bad phone, maybe? Any help is appreciated.
Thanks,
Mobile Signal Widget for me also
http://www.appbrain.com/app/mobile-signal-widget/com.empirical.widget.signal
Just because you are listed on the coverage map as being in the HSPA+ area the towers might not be actally all set up for the top speeds. I live in Massachusetts in a suburb of Boston where we are on the coverage map as being in HSPA+ area but the next town over is ony getting top speeds of around 950 kbps download. The network has not been stretched out to it's maximum yet, you will be getting your speed probably very soon. It is still very spotty. This has been my findings in the Boston area. One town in HSPA+ will get 750 MBPS download (very fast) and just a short distance away will only get top speeds of only 950 kbps (not bad) It will get better soon.
pateltjp said:
Hello,
I am new to Android - do I have to turn on something to get higher speeds?
I consitently get 0.89 no matter where I am.
In fact, our region is listed as 4G speeds on TMobile website... McLean VA.
I am thinking a bad phone, maybe? Any help is appreciated.
Thanks,
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Im also in VA and dont see "4g speeds" but it depends on certain areas just because your in "4g" area doesnt mean your going to see it, like if your inside in a building, or just in a bad coverage area. Ive actually did a speedtest under 2 different cell towers and the most I ever got was 5down. They say the g2 is capable of doing like 14, but I dont think anyone is ever going to get that I would say 10 the most.
In the phone manual it shows the different types of networks the phone would show. This G, E, H, and H+. It wont show 3g because H is the same as 3g and H+ is "4g".
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In the phone manual it shows the different types of networks the phone would show. This G, E, H, and H+. It wont show 3g because H is the same as 3g and H+ is "4g".
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I've not heard of anyone seeing an 'H+' on the phone... *going to read manual*
In the process of switching from the Hero on Sprint to the G2 on TMobile. Grabbed a G2 last week during the free deal.
I'm in what the tmobile coverage map calls the "faster" area, but not hspa+. Running the speedtest app, I'm lucky to get over 500kbps download and 700kbps up.
Phone shows "H" on the status bar and full bars. I've tried several area's around town with similar results.
Is this just normal TMobile data speeds? Just seems very slow compared to my Hero.
I'm in the "fastest" area and my 3G DL speed with G2 today was 57kbps. At first I thought there was something wrong or something I'm not doing right but at least for the last 24 hours it has been this way. Even AT&T's EDGE connection can mark the same speed.
I don't know about the other areas but at least in my area TMO's so-called "4G" is a joke.
Make sure you guys dont have the "use only 2g networks" checked off under the Menu/Settings/Wireless&Networks/MobileNetworks options.
No, that is not the case. Thanks though!
Try tellin tmobile check ur apn and do a factory reset
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Only 850 kbps DL?
Ok, I'm a newbie and it's possible I'm missing something obvious. But I see that most everyone on here, 3G or HSPA+, is getting 5Mbps or better on their Speedtest.net tests.
I can't even get 1Mbps (8 tests over a half hour: Lowest DL = 701 kbps, highest DL = 916.) Uploads are 550 to 650.
I've also noted - and maybe this is relevent - that everyone's speedtest looks different than mine. I'm using the Speedtest.net Android Application DL'd from market. Mine is a round stopwatch looking dial, all the screenshots I see posted on here are square boxes. This is curious to me, but doubtfully the problem.
My phone is a U.S. G2, rooted and flashed CyanogenMod 6.1.1 and overclocked to 1305 MHz. No other mods - the thing was stock and being turned on for the first time Wednesday (and still would be if it weren't for this forum! Thanks!)
What could be the trouble?
Thanks in advance
Reid
From my experience, if its showing the "3G" icon, you have no data connection. I mean, you won't get any throughput over 3G. Only hspa+, hsdpa, or edge.
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ibemad1 said:
From my experience, if its showing the "3G" icon, you have no data connection. I mean, you won't get any throughput over 3G. Only hspa+, hsdpa, or edge.
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G2's don't show "3G"...
dietotherhythm said:
G2's don't show "3G"...
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Yes they do
EDIT: >.< /facepalm I'm a jackass. I completely spaced that I was running CM. Its just been habit since I've been running it so long. Sorry for the douchebaggery on my behalf.
And as for OP:
Go to a bigger city. I live in Colorado Springs, CO and my 4G is kinda crap. Especially in my apartment. But when I go to a larger city like Denver, I notice speeds almost double what I get at home. So it could all just be your location.
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Yes they do
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No, they don't. The G2 ROM is altered by T-mobile to show an 'H' symbol anytime you're on something higher than EDGE - that means UMTS, HSPA, HSDPA, HSPA+, etc all show an 'H' (even though only HSPA+ is really considered 4G). Cyanogen ROMs and the Sense ROMs actually show a 3G when you're on 3G and an 'H' when you're on HSPA+.
I've actually seen the 3g symbol a couple of times on my G2. So yeah it does. Might only be on a specific rom though. I have only seen it while running a cm7 nightly build.
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wayde187 said:
I've actually seen the 3g symbol a couple of times on my G2. So yeah it does. Might only be on a specific rom though. I have only seen it while running a cm7 nightly build.
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Correct - as I said, Cyanogen and Sense ROMs show the 3G. The stock G2 ROM does not - T-Mobile altered it so that it jumps straight from E to H.
I just saw it again. I would like it to pop up when I am in a 3g area and when I'm not getting h+ but it seems to only hang around for a little bit.
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I have used CM 6.1 and currently using GV 1.5 and both show 3G and H symbols.