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I did create a post..asking if anyone had started work on this...
Got not one reply...
Seeing as i have them both.. x1 and HD..
So.. i thought.... Lets have a go....
Proof of concept only.....not a distributable version.
Sony Xperia X1 Panels.....Running on Touch HD
It's got a long way to go and lots of work needed... but it should
end up a very good addition to the Touch HD, and once done, work can commence on porting to different resolutions.
I like the look of this front end alot better than the TF3D
What do you guys reckon?
THERE IS NO CAB. ASK AT YOUR PERIL!
Anyone asking for it, will be flogged, tarred, feathered and called a leper!
Staus Updates
11/12/2008
There has been advances but very slow ones, It has been very "finiky" getting those "right changes" to commit more "stability changes"
It is because the HD was never meant to host Panels, and thus, is causing me a real pain in the backside! I'm currently looking at different roms, and versions of software, to try alternate file versions, to see if a combination is what is needed. Once this part is done, it should address a great deal of issues. Upto about 3 Hard resets a night, I think i should have a special button to do it on the back!
03/12/2008
It has been brought to my attention, there is a Cab available on another thread, but i have no input on this.
It is at the same point i was about a month ago.
It is a simple copy and paste from a X1 and is unstable.
I did not put out a version like this, as It requires your phone be reset after running panels after about 5 times, and i am aware why.
I thought It would be unfair to users to give them something that would pretty much trash the stability of the HD.
You know where it is if you do not care about this, and just want to install it.
I will not be putting out my version till i know atleast it will not trash your phone. That would subtract from the work done, and after some of us spending 500GBP+ the last thing needed is a paperweight.
01/12/2008
With the help of 'Keni'.. a new junior member... He has helped move us along also.. and produced...
The Panel icon on the titlebar.
It does need work.. and for it to function i need help again from nelshh
But he has no-doubt spent alot of time.. and got some code done.
I have to commend his effort.. and now wish to happily add him to the contributer list along with nelshh
See post 304 for pic and wmv
Thanks keni !
I am still working on te next alpha build and am struggling with the concurrence manager.
After using panels chooser anywhere from 5-10 times.. it egg timers out.. and batt out is the only recourse.
The testing on one of my HD's is now at a point.. it is a daily reset at minimum,,, but i'll carry on.
27/11/08
This has been such a painful last few days.... I have had unknown numbers of hard-resets trying to get the failing panels to operate properly.
2 developers are currently trying to help create the panel icon (see post 104) If anyone else can help aaswell...????
At the moment.. it's still doign my head in... but i am still working on this..
Those of you who have made donations.. and the kind words.. I am very grateful... and the bottle of White Zinfandel has been bought.. and shall be devoured tomorrow by her.!
I know alot of you guys are awaiting on me.. and that's why i haven't stopped.
Thanks guys... (and their mrs's for not divorcing them!)
PS.. my wife also wants a developer to create a couple of buttons on her omnia.
One button = Husband puts down phones!
Two Button = Husband does not grunt when asked question by her.. cos he is engrossed in panels!
Three button = Husband does not buy another new phone ever ever ever again!
I told her.. this is impossible... but she still asked me to find out.
23/11/08
The Alpha Cab has gone out to 5 selected testers.
This is a test version.. with many bugs.
So far.. this is the feedback
It installs.
It launches
It works
However.
Media panel & Facebook panel don't work on Alpha 0.02
Panel launcher Working. 3 testers had issues with relaunches after 5 times.It then becomes unresponsive
TF3d / Coloured Xperia / Silver Xperia / Radio Panel / SPB Panel / Google panel and Fish Panel all operate.
Animation works well on all.
I will work to address some of these.. and release a second alpha cab only to the Alpha testers.
19/11/2008
Alpha Build 0.02.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=4rnX1V8cLiw
15/11/2008
Big jump made by all work done by nelshh (http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=916337)
He has developed a working prototype that will call the panel manager tab.
So.. AS OF TODAY.. the 15th.. thanks to nelshh, we have something that now functions..and needs finalising and wrapping.
I will contact people to see if you can also help.
But please give nelshh a big thanks on this thread... for all his work in his project Xperiatweak (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=440035)... and also his work on here.
Thanks nelshh
15/11/2008
Added Tube video
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=-Jo0ZhxOi8s
12/11/2008
added yet another tube.. GSen and the Panels... It works...
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=8fqQFMKCRJc
10/11/2008
Added another Video.... showing all progress...
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Mz3zptQed7Q
hi,
Am sure lot of guys here would be interested to do the testing & developement for you.Can you post here, how you started with porting panels onto HD? I searched for the panels cab and cant find anything on this xda ? Would be useful if you could give some more information,
regards
vijayvasa
works fine on HD?
Is much slower than xperia?
The panels looks good on HD as comapre to X1 because of the large screen. Do share the cabs and procedure to do that once you are done.
Thanks in advance.
Hope the panels work faster than on the X1 otherwise they are useless. On the X1 they are way to slow to work productively with them.
But the chance that they work faster on the HD are small, right? Cos the hardware of both the X1 and the HD are about the same, are they?
Also looking forward for a cab file for testing them by myself.
Ascenca
Hello Harvsingh,
I would be very interested in helping you, but I have absolutely no experience in programing (besides my old ti-83plus). Do you think I could help you somehow? Can you tell me what I should do? I don't want to loose this project only because nobody here wants to help... So, if I can do something, I'll try to do it!! I think I'll get my HD this week, than I can try everything and if you tell me, also other things. I really want to help... Greez, cad^^
Wow HarvSingh !
Good for you! Looks like a good job on the face of it!
Great to see this post!
Have seen someone porting TouchFlo3D to Xperia, and was wondering whether anyone would port the Xperia Panel over to Touch HD.
Well, hopefully you would share the cab file for the rest of us to do a test on it, and more people to come and improve on it.
Do you manage to get the gold fish to work too? Guess it would really be nice to let the gold fish swim on the bigger screen.
multan said:
Great to see this post!
Have seen someone porting TouchFlo3D to Xperia, and was wondering whether anyone would port the Xperia Panel over to Touch HD.
Well, hopefully you would share the cab file for the rest of us to do a test on it, and more people to come and improve on it.
Do you manage to get the gold fish to work too? Guess it would really be nice to let the gold fish swim on the bigger screen.
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Thanks for the words.....
Yes.. all panels work.. but not after a reboot..
Fish are very happy in the bigger tank.. and stroking the screen has the same affect on scared little fishy
It's now a case in finding out what is causing it to flap itself on a reboot.
On a hard reset... going through my way to wedge the panels in.. works... then on reboot... i cannot start it.
Also.. after selecting the panel you want.. i'm still to find the call it makes from the X1 panel button to call up panel chooser with the tiled view.. so. when you've selected the panel.. you cannot re-choose another.
but.. this is my first day in doing this.. and i guess i'll plod along.. till i find it.. or just think screw it.
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Wow HarvSingh !
Good for you! Looks like a good job on the face of it!
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Thanks.... good to know i'm not the only one who would have liked to see it on the HD or others
Have you definitely told it to not load the TouchFlo3D? That may interfere with it after a reboot.
Acelister said:
Have you definitely told it to not load the TouchFlo3D? That may interfere with it after a reboot.
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Yes...
But i'm now exploring reg of the X1 to see if it does anything else....
cadenza said:
Hello Harvsingh,
I would be very interested in helping you, but I have absolutely no experience in programing (besides my old ti-83plus). Do you think I could help you somehow? Can you tell me what I should do? I don't want to loose this project only because nobody here wants to help... So, if I can do something, I'll try to do it!! I think I'll get my HD this week, than I can try everything and if you tell me, also other things. I really want to help... Greez, cad^^
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Same thing here. Would like to help with it also I really dont have much experience with WM at all. But I will help where I can cos this project has to develop to a fine product
harvsingh said:
Thanks.... good to know i'm not the only one who would have liked to see it on the HD or others
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Well to be honest, the Panels are more a marketing USP than anything else. While they are convenient, I have no issue or propensity against going into each thing separately as per normal.
But if you could get it working fully, it would be great. SonyEricsson wouldn't be too happy about it though I think !
For me, this is an extremely exieting project, because I only hoped/feared that there'll be some developers, bringing some great programs for the panels and nobody else could use them. Like spb-panel, I like it really a lot from what I've seen in videos. So, than I could have the best of both worlds, on a biiig screen^^ please, work on, I'm sure I'm not the only one who's very, very interestet in this project!!! And I want to congratulate you already for the work you've done until now!! Its amazing!!! Go on, finish it I wish you good, good luck and if you need any help I could do, I give you my word that I'll try to do my best!! Many greez, cad^^
Hi all
Video showing it running on a Touch Hd.. for the conspiracy theorists.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=-Jo0ZhxOi8s
I don't get the video. Could you explain what's going on ?
I didn't have the audio on, if there was any, but it's just showing that it's possible. That's the first time I've seen it in action, and I'll admit it may be a little slow, but it looks better than the TouchFlo3D... I'd definitely install it.
Acelister said:
I didn't have the audio on, if there was any, but it's just showing that it's possible. That's the first time I've seen it in action, and I'll admit it may be a little slow, but it looks better than the TouchFlo3D... I'd definitely install it.
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No-one wants to hear me talk...
So. i just quicky launched it up.. and ran through..
All buttons work.. i was trying to juggle a TYTN II... look at the phone and tytn.. and press buttons... so .. i may not have pressed buttons properly..
But.. trust me.. they all work... and as quick/quicker than on the Sony X1.def not slower.
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No-one wants to hear me talk...
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lol, nothing personal just my wife's asleep next to me, unwell.
But good news on the speed. I do hope you're able to make an easy to use cab file of it. No hurry as far as I'm concerned though. Not getting an HD yet. But definitely the first thing I'll download for it!
"GemRB (Game engine made with preRendered Background) is a portable open-source implementation of Bioware's Infinity Engine which was written to support pseudo-3D role playing games based on the Dungeons & Dragons ruleset. It should run on GNU/Linux, Microsoft Windows, OS X and possibly other UNIX derivatives. It is licensed under the GPL. " (http://linux.prinas.si/gemrb/doku.php)
Who can port this wondeful program to WM? I will tester )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icyAgs3dFqU
Baldur's Gate on Nokia N800
Omfg, Planescape: Torment would be the best!!
neophyte.vii said:
Omfg, Planescape: Torment would be the best!!
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yes. I play it on linux on pc now, it runs stable and fast...
wow! please some one make this work! i'll be a tester too! i love baldurs gate and if i can play it on my hermes it will be amazing!
hey! developers! nobody loves BG&PST? (
Great ideas Guys hope they post this soon while am waiting al just play Doom 1,2, TNT etc. and Dukenuken 3D on my WM cant wait for this lol
Seems to me it would be an easy job, as all you would need to do is have the proper dependencies. http://forums.gibberlings3.net/index.php?showtopic=16785
This forum has a post about it, with a link to installation instructions. I don't have time to hassle with it now, but looks like you need a few libs installed and thats it. If anyone wants to try gof or it! Seems like all we would need is a CAB to install dependencies, and that youtube vid was a year ago, I am sure there is a way now.
Baldur's Gate would be the best and looks like the entire focus of the development. Problem would be that it would be VGA only. I don't see this working on a qvga screen. The original game was 480x640 with BG2 being able to play at VGA or higher.
well, i searched for a version of gemrb for ppc but found nothing on google... if any of the developers could create one it would be great! i really want to play baldurs gate on my hermes!
Oh man this would be awesome on my Touch HD. Good find! Now hopefully the gurus around here will take a look and get it working.
The last (and only) time I tried to port a python game to Windows Mobile, I was stuck at getting pygame to run. This seems to have less dependencies so might be easier.
I love the 2D series of RPGs but GemRB is nowhere near complete yet.
Well am not a programming guru but you Guys keep saying that its easy to port thats Good but can you tell us if your porting right now and we should wait for it to get completed or no body started yet I really wish I can help but again am not a programer al leave this to the pros
wow, this would be AWESOME if someone could get it to work!
If someone wants to try porting, here is a post with links to WinCE versions of the required libraries. I haven't tried any of them and the link is in Russian.
... made by the original poster, no less
because i am not a programer, if you csn tell me what to do, i am will to try my self... and where to find the games?
The games? You have to buy and prepare them for GemRB yourself. There was some discussion of fanmade games for GemRB but it is a lot of work.
Porting such a program is not a trivial task and is impossible for a non programmer.
yes, i am sorry, i figure it out about the games after that post... it's good then i have all the series of bg and IWD in my home... so, if i can not do anything because i am not a programer, as i said before i am willing to beta test so please, anyone can make it happend?
anyone?
I want this to happen! There's gotta be somone out there who can do it!
This would...
This would change my life! (well my free time)
FOR EVER! (for at least 2 weeks until I complete it again.)
I have such warm fuzzy memories of this game. Imoen the theif girl who I am sure I managed to pull.....
Hours and hours of clicking frenzy.
Never Winter nights 2 just never grabbed me in the same way that these old games did.
I really hope that this can be done. I am unable to sit in front of my PC and replay this as I have so many things I wan to play and look at. Having this on mobile wouyld be perfect!!
hy all
i am working on stacraft port to ppc
this is an alpha port for wwga screen 800x480
using strategus engine
i hope that anybody can help me to speed up developpment
be carefull data files are identical but ppc is using different path
PC & PPC-WVGA-007
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=T7BBJ7M5
Data Convertor PC
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=NWRM9HK0
Converted sounds (if you dont like this use the sound folder from pc version wich takes to much space)
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=H8K8XE18
Status
007 has campain menu
2 terran campain maps
2 terran campain maps
removed protoss from campain menu (for now)
various bugfixes and increased stability
Instalation guide
1.unpack and copy coresponding ppc version (VGA OR WVGA) to your Storage Card root
2.unpack and copy pc version to your C:
3.insert original starcraft CD into drive
4.run starinstall.exe from desktop version (if it gives you errors your cd is not usable with it / works only with eng version)
5.copy fom pc verion to storage card
\data\graphics
\data\maps
\data\sounds(490Mb) or copy sounds from this post 97mb
6.run the ppc version of the game / for the nosound version you can delete the sound folder
THIS GAME DOES NOT WORK ON QVGA DEVICES / DO NOT TRY IT
INCLUDED ORIGINAL CONVERTOR IN PC VERSION
IF YOU WANT TO PLAY THE GAME YOU NEED ORIGINAL STARCRAFT CD (NOT BRODWAR)
Good luck with it mate! Would love to see this happen.
oh boy, oh boy!!!
I was following this thread for (almost) 2 year on this forum:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=547989&page=22
They had little luck getting as far as you probably did... maybe they have some info that may be usefull to you...
Just out of curiosity, after its done will you consider vga/qvga resolutions too?
Keep up the great work and if you need any help on icons, graphics or something let me know.
twolf said:
oh boy, oh boy!!!
I was following this thread for (almost) 2 year on this forum:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=547989&page=22
They had little luck getting as far as you probably did... maybe they have some info that may be usefull to you...
Just out of curiosity, after its done will you consider vga/qvga resolutions too?
Keep up the great work and if you need any help on icons, graphics or something let me know.
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vga and wvga is possible
qvga is not acceptable because you can not see what is happening on screen
desktop variant even loads the map
for the ppc texture is too big and i will need to reduce the texture to something smaller and with less tiles
i will need to redesigh all maps after this
so i will need your help but first we need to load an reduce map on the ppc
i have also on xperia forum in my kitchen the link for warcraft II and transport tycoon
please try them
br
hy all
alpha 2 is up
pc version works and load maps you can even play
for ppc we need to redesign the tile map so it will take time
i will do an test map to see if it loads it
br
I have a nike, so I wont be able to test anything, but give me the instructions of what files you need croped/resized/slashed and I'll send them to you or post them here.
twolf said:
I have a nike, so I wont be able to test anything, but give me the instructions of what files you need croped/resized/slashed and I'll send them to you or post them here.
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you can help me using the pc version
is the same data for both versions
and scripts folder is used for developpement
please open scripts and try to make menus for secenario game
yo can use this editor http://www.flos-freeware.ch/zip/notepad2.zip
br
hmm...hehehe... Im not a programmer, only play around in flash because its very simple to use.
I was offering more on the edition of images department, sorry... :/
well everything is in LUA scripts the menus the interface ...
i will have to play a lot to make it work on qvga, BTW it starts on QVGA device but as you know the resolution is a lil high for it
Wooohooo, and there's the next great Desktop game coming to us!
BTW: I can test it on my Diamond for VGA users if you wish!
i think there is easyer way to do it for VGA - this is WVGA and all the graphics have their sizes fixed ....
i will have to find my starcraft cds ... to start experiment on this
OMG if you guys can get this working on VGA as good as warcraft2 runs and as bug free I (and im sure many others) will donate!!!!!!!!!! HUGE starcraft fan here =)
WOOHOO....HUGE Starcraft fan here too. I can't wait for Starcraft II to be released. I have both original CD's of Starcraft I and Brood Wars. I still play this today. I have many more missions (maps) from users on the internet. Some are awesome.
I swear I will buy a WVGA device just to be able to play this game!!! I will certainly use my wife's Xperia to test it once it's going.
bump.. no helpers? =)
Why dont you try to run it on VGA, it will start, but some of the things may be cutted from the both sides
jerpelea said:
i am working on stacraft port to ppc
this is an alpha port for wwga screen 800x480
using strategus engine
i hope that anybody can help me to speed up developpment
be carefull data files are identical but ppc is using different path
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I was a fan myself, and I guess I still am, so I would like to help, let me know what I can do.
my spare time is very limited but I'll try.
I cant program, so I can only help on the images...
Wouldn't it be easier to get a working VGA game, since StarCraft runs in VGA natively? And if you want to make it WVGA, you would stretch the aspect ratio of the game?
Normally I prefer to have correct aspect before full-screen, but perhaps it's different on such a small screen.
Anyway, StarCraft would be the NUMBER ONE GAME I'd like to have on PPC, bar none. And, I do have a Diamond - so I'm quite biased towards the VGA version...
Amazing! Can't wait to see it, I really hope you bring it to VGA. If you need someone to help test it on a VGA device, my Touch Pro is at your disposal.
losdrivare said:
Anyway, StarCraft would be the NUMBER ONE GAME I'd like to have on PPC, bar none.
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i fully agree. There has been talk of this a long time, looks like we are finally getting somewhere. Keep up the good work, I am sure many would be willing to donate, I know I would.
Is anyone able to help me or point me in the right direction to get plants vs zomies working on my HTC.
Its a standalone .exe file, 30mb in total...there must be a way!
I agree it's a way too cool a game!
Someone else popped the same question before:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=514635
Perhaps you have more luck
There must be some sort of .exe emulator or some way of getting it to work.
Ive seen far more powerful things working on the HTC....this is nothing compared to them!
Come on developers, please please please help me!
Yeah..would love to see this game on our winmo
I would just be thankful for any new decent game releases on WinMo, ever since the iPhone has come along all other platforms seem to have been forgotten about
+1.... son wants that game
+1. want the game too
i suggest you guys take it to the developers although, tbh, i doubt they would make a game for wm6.x
maybe wp7 will get a version of the game.
there is a flash version on their site, cant someone download it and port it, becouse i cant even download it
i've seen the flash version, its only a demo - but still fun.
ill give this a go myself and see how i get on ... but remember it isnt the full version unfortunatly.
had a go at getting the .swf but no luck. used firefox and the only flash animations you can download (that work) are the banner ads. if you download what i think is the game itself, its just a white box.
would be nice to have this game...
Hey, I like to use multitouch to get more intuitive input on the touchscreen like to emulate a virtual ThumbStick and some buttons working on the same time.
It's easy to get multitouch working using the WindowsMessages HTC_Zooming, HTC_End_.... But now, the fingers must be set on the screen nearly at the same time or it won't work. That's fine to implement some rotation or zooming cap but it's not enough for a game...
Does anyone know how to get multitouch, like the HTCAlbum does support?
An interesting fact is that the HTCAlbum app is in the blacklist of the Pinch cap in the registry and to get the PinchToZoom-Messages you must be registered in the whitelist...
Thanks
If you send me one HD2 for testing, I'll find it out hehe
HTCAfe.dll
Hey guys
I'm doing some research in the dependencies of the htc apps on my hd2 to get real multitouch. Now I need to analyze htcafe.dll but I can't copy it from my device 'cause it's cooked in the rom.
How do I get that lib on my pc or could anyone send me a copy?
Thanks
Sure, here you go!
Fast?
EpiphanyNL said:
Sure, here you go!
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thanks for that quick help!
You can usually copy out rom modules with either Cotulla's romextractor.exe or dotfred's task manager (the Depends tool-extract rom library).
DirectShow?
Hey guys
I'm sorry for the long dead time. It's really tricky 'cause I've no idea of directdraw/show on winmo? I figured out that you have to create a htcscene out of htcafe.dll and there you probably get the real multitouch-events.
Could some one send me a good tut for directdraw/show?
cheers
Got it!!!!
I got it working now!!! After spending hours, I found out how the HTCAlbum does it and I think it's the best way to do it without rewriting the whole driver and that stuff....
If anyone is interested in how to do it, i will write a sdk for .net and maybe a tut for native coding... (So if you're writeing a game... I can't wait to see multitouch ingames!!!)
For the moment I'm done, but I will soon post a sample game (some stuff like AirHockey or Pong)... (if I find time....)
Cheers
Some sample would be nice =)
Is it really something different from "HTC_Zoom_Begin" etc?
As for me, I prefer native code sample, but .net sample is ok as well.
How is this different from the multitouch already enabled on many hd2 apps? For example, fpsece, the playstation emulator has had multitouch for a long time, at least in the donators version. Is this a better implementation of multitouch?
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
zarathustrax said:
How is this different from the multitouch already enabled on many hd2 apps? For example, fpsece, the playstation emulator has had multitouch for a long time, at least in the donators version. Is this a better implementation of multitouch?
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
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Firsteful, there are now three approaches to get multitouch working (as far as I know). The first is the simplest, I think the multiouch skins for morphgear uses this trick. If the second finger is pressed, you get (I don't know exactly how, cause it was never an option for me...) the point in the middle, and you asign two buttons to this point.Well, It's fake multitouch, but it works.
The second option is to write the PenTrac.dll and activate MultipointDemo (or what so ever) key in the registry and send some window messages (they often abuse the standard mouseevents...)...
The last option is to use HTC_Zooming-messages and so on (in my opinion the best, cause this function is already there, so no overheat is made...). And this is what I do. But in all samples I got before (like I described in the first post of this thread...) , you needed to press both fingers at the same time. I figured out, how to avoid this problem. And that's the difference...
And in the end, I just wanted to make a really easy-to-use sdk. So that even beginners are able to get multitouch working.... I found it quite hard to start with all the p/invoke stuff or change from c# to native code. I hope I can help you with the sdk.
Here's the thread of my sdk. Feel free to leave feedback.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=906068
Chabun