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I think wm is dead, let's get android! or is it just me

just returned my iphone, its like a pretty blonde; hot on the outside but nothing on the inside. i think wm is pretty much dead though; android will usher in a new era. i think we should just dismiss the last gen roms and look forward. Its obvious from apple releasing sdks for their tight ass phone that android has a little more than something up their sleeve; cant wait to see what htc devices deliver

Yep, it's just you.

I beg to differ, if you put WM in the hands of a decent development house you could come up with a very nice looking device
http://www.sonyericsson.com/x1/default.aspx?cc=gb&lc=en

tonyb15re said:
I beg to differ, if you put WM in the hands of a decent development house you could come up with a very nice looking device
http://www.sonyericsson.com/x1/default.aspx?cc=gb&lc=en
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*drools* i can't wait for this to be released

I think windows mobile is gonna be around for a while yet until something else more stable & reliable comes along. Going by the phone in link above, WM is here to stay for quite some time!!

kaalgoosy said:
just returned my iphone, its like a pretty blonde; hot on the outside but nothing on the inside. i think wm is pretty much dead though; android will usher in a new era. i think we should just dismiss the last gen roms and look forward. Its obvious from apple releasing sdks for their tight ass phone that android has a little more than something up their sleeve; cant wait to see what htc devices deliver
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You can jailbreak an iphone and install a ton of useful apps today already...
I'm waiting for the next iphone with 3G and hopefully built in GPS.

Blonde jailbait?

The xperia is the sickest device I've seen in sometime

C Brown said:
The xperia is the sickest device I've seen in sometime
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ROFL, hey Charlie, the "sickest" device?

penguin20000 said:
*drools* i can't wait for this to be released
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Looks Great, probably going to be $399 at least. The film (Commercial) is pretty stupid, doesn't show any features of the phone, just a bunch of paper airplanes.
Anyone know a release date on this baby?

C Brown said:
The xperia is the sickest device I've seen in sometime
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See its specification, if the price is as rumors around 700$ the Xperia X1 will be a killer of all other WM devices. I wonder why HTC doesn´t have any revolution model up coming. I prefer the high resolution display and small smart design.

Like to see this one when it comes out.
details look good.
http://www.elite-electronix.com/smartphones-213/meizu-255/meizu-m8-minione-16gb-unlocked-1379.html

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Blonde jailbait?
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sacwoo said:
Looks Great, probably going to be $399 at least. The film (Commercial) is pretty stupid, doesn't show any features of the phone, just a bunch of paper airplanes.
Anyone know a release date on this baby?
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$399----wow, that is a low estimate. if the tytn i is still going for 400 i think the the x1 will be around 800-1000 when it first comes out.

jamal1782 said:
Like to see this one when it comes out.
details look good.
http://www.elite-electronix.com/smartphones-213/meizu-255/meizu-m8-minione-16gb-unlocked-1379.html
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Hmmm an iphone with WM on it, what a bad combination!!!! Oh and worst of all no keyboard, no use whatsoever as a business device... Nice toy if you like poking your screen with a stylus or smearing it with fingerprints...

I believe the expected release date for the xperia 1 is early 2009

I phoned the Sony Shop in the UK they said mid year.

excellent, I'm due a new phone bout then!

Windows mobile will die if microsoft doesn't quit being lazy
Windows mobile will die. Have you guys ever really thought about this operating system we're running on our hand helds. back inthe day you had desktops pushing 166mhz and running full installs of windows 95 and in some cases I've even seen 98 on that processor. And those system ran applicatiosn and did so with not much problems.
in 2008 many years in the future we have our handsets pushing 400mhz processors (hermes) and yet it lags when you chcange screen orientation. It lags to answer a phone call if your in landscape orientation.
That is utter rubbish. Microsoft got windows mobile code wrong the firstst ime it was bloated. The reason why it'll never improve exponentially is because microsoft does not like to do things over they will forever build up ontop of a bloated operating system.
We see the same thing happening in the desktop counteer part of their operating system. If android can drop a proper user interface to make users comfortable with using the device Then i see no reason why it wouldn't superceed windows mobile
hardware vendors would be more than happy if this was the case as licensing for windows mobile cost an arm and a leg.
but really think about it
166mhz ran a whole computers operating system with various application 400mhz can barely run the windows mobile operating system properly.
Thats just disgusting.

WM is already changing due to other operators including Apple, and they need to as people expect reliable, functional operating systems.
Yes I agree, microsoft are lazy, but with the introduction of android, apple etc, I think (hope) they are actually starting to sit up and take action.
If they come back with another unreliable WM then, people will start to look elsewhere and microsoft will be in trouble. Lets just hope they take note and sort it out now

Windows Mobile 7 for hd2 beta going to be released!!!

See what tom codon has posted on htcpedia
Hi guys !
Many rumor said microsoft was confirmed hd2 will not have wm7 upgrade , but look in this screenshot :
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What working :
Wifi
GPS
Bluetooth
....almost all working
What problems :
Graphic driver is bad , some times lag device
Thanks part :
My credit thanks to HTC HD2 Russian project guys ( special Football and MagLite)
Planning release beta version soon
Tom
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Source : here
Since tom has posted this, most probably its real. And he is planning to release beta version soon.
What do you think is it real? If so it is a very good news for hd2 users.

Note:- I resized the pic so that its clearly visible.

if you consider that the HD was at first a WM7 test device.
and now HD2 is a MS Test Device. I would not be suprised at all to see this released.
Just because something is not getting an "offical" release does not mean anything.
I am not sure if XDA knows what the words "official release" means.

well pretty sure we knew it wouldn't be official but a test rom is EXACTLY what devs have been looking for since this debacle actually began
I can't wait for the release and that means the touch hd2 actually looks like a winner for me as the first wp7s device
but some questions
can one flash back to wm 6.5 or are we stuck
some more questions but good news time to blog!

I'm thinking this is legit. I was holding off on buying a HD2 but if this gets released, I'll be running to the nearest T-Mobile store.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=653836

tom codon has no reason to lie
its not even april fools day!

Dont forget, HTC HD3 will be announced soon
RustyGrom said:
I'm thinking this is legit. I was holding off on buying a HD2 but if this gets released, I'll be running to the nearest T-Mobile store.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=653836
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gogol said:
Dont forget, HTC HD3 will be announced soon
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not before 8 monthes

hoss_n2 said:
not before 8 monthes
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im thinking about getting an android device instead.

very cool will pick up an hd2 if price is right. But will have to deal with edge as the fuhrur said. Maybe import from telstra.

What the hell? That's supposed to be the interface of WP7s? With those gigantic font sizes? One word per line?
What's the point of having 800x480 pixels if you use 60-point fonts? 5 lines of agenda per screen? Will it be able to display one calendar month in a single screen or will you only be able to look at 4 days at a time?
This is an interface for short-shighted people?
Hell, fortunately the people designing Windows 7 does not think that the people purchasing computers are 5-year old children, or 85 year-old. That is scared by more than 5 lines of text on a screen or having to think where to put their files.
I'm not going to purchase a new phone that is a tamagotchi for 5 year old children. Use have been using computers at home for 20 years, we're in 2010, not 1984...

Man, there are so many threads discussing WP7 UI. Do you really need to start this discussion here?

vangrieg said:
Man, there are so many threads discussing WP7 UI. Do you really need to start this discussion here?
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I wonder did u ever read the first post? Its not WP7 UI, its real man.

jagan2 said:
I wonder did u ever read the first post? Its not WP7 UI, its real man.
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Did you read the thread? He was responding to the post directly above his.

Now there are also Youtube videos in the HTCpedia thread

well hopefully this is real. does anybody remember windows mobile on iphone?

Might be sensible to hold off from overly wild celebration just yet - I believe that if we do choose to flash it, there is no way back due to some fundamental changes in the bootloader.
Personally I'd be interested to have a look at it if I knew I could get back to something tried and tested again. Still, I'm sure the good people working on it will figure out a solution if we give them time and space.
I just hope it doesn't turn into an 'xda special' - a bunch of impatient ingrates hassling the developers to release it and then accusing them of being con artists if they don't do it in a timescale that suits...

RustyGrom said:
Did you read the thread? He was responding to the post directly above his.
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lol. /facepalm
I'm hoping we can get a triboot thing going. lol Eclair, 6.5.x, and 7 all on one device. I'd make panties drop everywhere.

Existing discussion here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=653836
Whilst there is a lot of speculation, it helps to keep everyone on the same page .
Closed.
Dave

I won a WP7 phone!!!

Sadly, I won't get it til general availablity and I don't know which phone. Microsoft peeps are still being cagey with it. The guy wouldn't even let me take a pic of a LG WP7 device even though it's been all over the internet already. The only real new info I've gleaned is that they will support basic exchange policies like pin unlock and remote wipe. Still going to try and fenagle some more info out of them.

WTH? Congratulations!!

cool can i have it?

Congrats!.........

Depending on what they say, I might just get a HD2. The WP7 device is supposed to be general availability and they might make devices available before then and I'm not willing to wait.

niceeee
thats lucky and awesome!

Remember to colaborate with XDA and help WP7 become more awesome .

Windows 7 phone is dead before the official release

cgigate said:
Windows 7 phone is dead before the official release
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After having seen it in person, the whole OS is rather impressive. While it may not on paper be the #1 phone OS, it is rather good and will put up a good fight. Oh and they've only shown off around 70% of the OS's features. More positive info will come to light as we near launch.

RustyGrom said:
After having seen it in person, the whole OS is rather impressive.
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Did your opinion change for the better? I may be wrong, but I recall you were pretty negative about it.
RustyGrom said:
Oh and they've only shown off around 70% of the OS's features.
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Do you know this from seeing the features or is it what you think will happen?

vangrieg said:
Did your opinion change for the better? I may be wrong, but I recall you were pretty negative about it.
Do you know this from seeing the features or is it what you think will happen?
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I think I've always been relatively positive about the new OS. While some of the new restrictions are annoyingly restrictive, I don't think it'll be a problem for us. In one of the sessions today they showed off how devs will be able to unlock phones and it was just a desktop app that talks to the store. I can easily see this app being modified to just not talk to the store but I'm betting there will need to be more done than this. So while I still wish MS would open up the dev platform more, I somewhat respect the decisions they've made and I don't think it will be hard for the rest of us to have phones we can do as we wish with.
It was stated earlier in the week by one of the members of the WP7 team that only 70-80% of the OS had been shown off up to this point. However, after going hands on with a device for a while today, I didn't find much that we haven't seen yet. The whole thing is fluid and is super intuitive. It really is a joy to use. So I'm not sure how much is left to unveil but it seems rather useable today. But none of the WP7 guys that I talked to are using it full time yet so that's kind of telling.

nice... congrats... HD2 is still better looking then any of the WP7 phones we've seen... the only one that beats it is the prototype images of HD3 made in photoshop lol... dell lightening comes close, but hw keyboard kills it as well... just get the HD2, then u'll have to option of running 6.5 or android (90% possible so far) and prolly even wp7 when it comes out since it conforms to all specs ...

Pics or it didn't happen!

Jeeze. Necro thread!
I ended up deciding to wait for a WP7 device. The HD2 they had was a european model and couldn't do 3G here. A smartphone without 3G is useless. So I wait til October like everyone else. But at least it will be free.
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drownage said:
nice... congrats... HD2 is still better looking then any of the WP7 phones we've seen... the only one that beats it is the prototype images of HD3 made in photoshop lol... dell lightening comes close, but hw keyboard kills it as well... just get the HD2, then u'll have to option of running 6.5 or android (90% possible so far) and prolly even wp7 when it comes out since it conforms to all specs ...
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Not all the specs, AFAIK the chipsets in the HD2 do not conform to all the hardware specs that Microsoft has made for Windows Phone 7 compatibility. Things like the hardware image scaler for example are not present in the HD2, nor is support for hardware acceleration of the VC-1 codec.

Nokia to show off a “new market disrupting device” on June 21st

Saw this being discussed on another forum and thought people here might be interested in this.
http://mobilesyrup.com/2011/06/15/nokia-to-show-off-a-new-market-disrupting-device-on-june-21st/
You couple this upcoming announcement with the below tweet
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http://www.wpcentral.com/nokia-blow-our-socks-off
I sure hope we see a big Nokia WP7 reveal next Tuesday.

I ready to have my socks blown off! We need some fast, powerful, beautiful phones for WP7. I'm sick of seeing nice hardware with a crappy OS. See Android.
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Looking forward to next Tuesday. Unless they really drop the ball, Nokia will be my next Windows Phone this Christmas .

pittphan said:
\We need some fast, powerful, beautiful phones for WP7.
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I'm not too concerned about powerful - but I do want it to use the new hardware, as it will be more battery efficient.

I just hope they dont do something stupid and reveal a meego device which I think there is a chance of them doing as Stephen Elop has said they will only announce a handset when its close to launch, and June seems to be a way off from Mango's Fall release.

An N8 quality phone with WP7 Mango running on it would blow my socks off. Or the concept phone with all the different colours would too.
Anything else less would merely them down, not blow them off.

I'm skeptical because "market disrupting" is what they have always called their non-Windows Phone research efforts. I have my doubts that we will see a Windows Phone on Tuesday, but we'll see.

I hope it isn't a smartphone priced $0 on contract . . . because it's not like we haven't see enough of those.

If its the size of the hd7 but with a good screen, I'm in.

I'm sure it wont be CDMA.....because Verizon sucks.

sure haven't said:
If its the size of the hd7 but with a good screen, I'm in.
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just need a "candy bar" like HD7 with good screen , i am too... even i am having HD7 right now.

What I worry about is....
1)is it a meego handset?
2)the price of nokia wp7 handset.They have been losing market share for years,and they seldom or never adopt a Qualcomm or TI processor in their own handset....what they are using is processor from broadcom....
Therefore,do they got enough negoatiating power or bargaining power to get a lower price of processor from Qualcomm(bulk purchasing??who knows?this depends on how nokia judge the potential of wp7) and this same goes to the other parts as well...
Lets wait for next week and see the real show...

Market disruptive :
$99 no contract WP7 device
New meego device that is also cost effective.
Only things that could be market disruptive from Nokia.

what is needed big time i mean HUGEly big time with these wp7 devices is a memory card slot that users can swap around freely without cracking the damn device open.
give me a +1 someone
ps. i love the the htc hd7 so much i have 2..... just coz

vetvito said:
Market disruptive :
$99 no contract WP7 device
New meego device that is also cost effective.
Only things that could be market disruptive from Nokia.
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while a $100 phone would be neat, it wouldn't be disruptive. make it an IPHONE for $100, without a contract and yea, you'd have a hard time selling -anything- else. apple could do it, take a loss on the initial unit and make it up on all the payments from att/verizon/tmo that have to be made in order for them to get an iphone to offer.
oh wait... that almost sounds possible. hmm
an android or wp7 phone for a hundred clams would just be another phone. blah.

I hope Nokia does come through with something spec heavy, just to convince these other manufactures to get the ball rolling.
Sent from my Samsung Focus

I hope we see a metal crafted/high quality phone as their first device. They can bring out low end devices later.

tiny17 said:
I hope we see a metal crafted/high quality phone as their first device. They can bring out low end devices later.
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+1 on that

efjay said:
I just hope they dont do something stupid and reveal a meego device which I think there is a chance of them doing as Stephen Elop has said they will only announce a handset when its close to launch, and June seems to be a way off from Mango's Fall release.
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You may be exactly right efjay
Annoucement

nicksti said:
You may be exactly right efjay
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Great. What a stupid move, making a fuss over 1 device after saying WP7 is going to be their main smartphone OS. Why dangle this in front of people at all and distract them from their eventual WP7 devices? Guess Elop was all talk....

Don't wanna say much but watch this guy!

I don't wanna comment but you can after watching this:
SmartphonePedia Show ep11 Windows Mobile 8 vs Android OS, GS3 Release, HTC One X
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cL-SsBpZ0js&feature=plcp

Well, I can't take a quy serious who calls it Windows Mobile 8 and this vid is also quite heavily biased. And you will also quickly notice his main interest: good hardware specs.

I couldn't even get past the the first 40 seconds.
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Cant believe you made me click on that link and add to his view counts!

Kenzibit said:
I don't wanna comment but you can after watching this:
SmartphonePedia Show ep11 Windows Mobile 8 vs Android OS, GS3 Release, HTC One X
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cL-SsBpZ0js&feature=plcp
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I want to thank you SO MUCH for this link, that clicking on the THANKS button IS NOT ENOUGH!:laugh:

"Windows Mobile 8"
wtf...
he also says that only "Windows Mobile 8" devices are gonna be able to acces gmail... wtf

Kenzibit said:
I don't wanna comment but you can after watching this:
SmartphonePedia Show ep11 Windows Mobile 8 vs Android OS, GS3 Release, HTC One X
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cL-SsBpZ0js&feature=plcp
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Lolz, 40 secs wasted on my life~ XD

That dumbass deleted my comments...
u__u

Thanks for the lulz xD

What a moron, he obviously has no idea what he's talking about.
Android fanboy.

This guy is a complete idiot! Waste of my time especially with the Windows Mobile reference and the Gmail app piece. And he says Windows Mobile never compared to Android. It's because Android wasn't around when it came out. And they minimized Windows onto a phone in like 2000...Windows Mobile:laugh:

I managed to get a good 3min out of that before his voice and general lack of any intelligence what so ever got the better of me, forcing me to try stab my screen with a pitch folk when ever he opened his month.
I am amazed that such inbreeding still goes on in western countries, which surely must be the only reason for such a mentally challenged presenter.
Ill happily list anyone valid pros and cons of any device and remain completely objective whilst doing it AND putting aside that WP suites my needs best, why cant people who put them selves in that position at least attempt to be impartial?!
unless of course that was his sole aim!
To get all clear thinking people flapping about him being a complete nob.
In which case my friend, you have exceled yourself

I was waiting for him to start signing the Barbie Girl song.

renatofontes said:
That dumbass deleted my comments...
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He deleted both of my comments too.

he is funny,total android fanboy.
first he cry about wp7 phones that can't be updated to wp8 (that is actually a bummer) and hoe stupid MS is
and about 5 min later he cry's about 10 min long how bad verison is that he can't get ics on his phones
F*****ing nope if you ask me , they actually sould ban him from the internet and take away all phones he has , give him a brick to use for calling

Getting him an Aligator would be enough
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This guy is clearly tripping on something. I found this video hilarious.

I watched about 40 seconds, wrote a vile reply that most likely will be erased and left. It hurt to watch that bull****.

He needs a Kleenex.

With everyone trying to sit through it, I decided to as well. Horrible presenter - not much in the way of facts or information, he just 'feels bad' about Win8. All I could think throughout the time I could stand was CAGE MATCH!!! Let's see how this fanboi stands up to a WP fanboi... err, whatever we call General the Destroyer [FONT=&quot]http://www.youtube.com/user/generalthedestroyer
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