Develop Bugs

Pro 2 or Hero?

I just recently bought a Palm Pre and returned it, hated it! So I bought the touch pro knowing it cam out almost a year ago (impulse buy). Now I am just curious, I know the touch pro 2 is coming to sprint, but its rumored that the hero will be out for sprint later this year, possibly December. Which one should i wait for?

i think major difference is the qwerty keyboard so decide if you need this or not.

lhwparis said:
i think major difference is the qwerty keyboard so decide if you need this or not.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
+ one is android and other WM, usually a big difference depending on what you like.

That will depend on what is for you need the device
TP2: Buissness oriented device with the second best physical keyboard (1st is from Universal)
Hero: Multimedia oriented device with an OS tha promises a lot in the future, by now it needs to grow up and madurate

Welcome to my world, all these damn phones coming out, Hero I like however things I dont like are the shape, imagine that in your pocket? "Are you pleased to see me or is that a HTC Hero in your pocket?" and as the person above mentioned, lack of keyboard.
White doesnt stay clean for long either.

SuperAdvan said:
Welcome to my world, all these damn phones coming out, Hero I like however things I dont like are the shape, imagine that in your pocket? "Are you pleased to see me or is that a HTC Hero in your pocket?" and as the person above mentioned, lack of keyboard.
White doesnt stay clean for long either.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Haha, yeah I know, keyboard is a big deal to me. It's just WM seems to disappoint me a lot. Although I have high hopes for 6.5, I'm thinking sprint is waiting for 6.5 to release to touch pro 2, it would make it all that better!
But still, functionality versus a keyboard, I don't know! haah

I know what you mean about WM, but HTC have done a great job of masking the dull and boring monolike OS with Touchflo from what I have seen and WM 6.5 looks like a vast improvement at least visually.
Personally I think you, like me, would probably get bored of Android and the touch screen keypad would drive me nuts in the end.
I tried typing on an Iphone 3GS yesterday to get a (improved) idea of what a Diamond 2 or Hero might be like and with my fingers theres no chance I would type quickly on that ever, it would be like trying to look behind you without moving your head.
TP2 is the way to go, however the Omnia Pro is coming soon too, but then the Nvidia Tegra chipset powered HTC HD sequal is comign - I cant decide either, phones are like PC graphics cards these days.

SuperAdvan said:
however things I dont like are the shape, imagine that in your pocket? and as the person above mentioned, lack of keyboard.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
the shape is virtually the same as the G1, and I've never heard anyone complain about any discomfort when they put the G1 in their pocket. and there may not be a hardware KB, but as far as onscreen KB's go, it looks like the Hero's will be one of best so far. and I like how the screen is capacitive and thus supports multi touch.
personally, I'm getting the TP2 when it comes out on AT&T. I'm also planning on picking up an unlocked Hero (unless it finds its way to the states, specifically AT&T). just want something else to play around with

Please buy both. Both has different strength, features & abilities. Both are totally different. I hope i will get one if god willing

For me it will be the one with the biggest screen & WM on it...TP2!

galaxys said:
For me it will be the one with the biggest screen & WM on it...TP2!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah but the hero has a capacitive screen right? or am I wrong about that? Im actually not sure but I would think that it does because all the other android ones by HTC ara capacitive
Edit: I checked and im pretty sure its capacitive but I just browsed through search results

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=530600

The same question has been haunting me lately too. I've been waiting forever for the TP2 to come to AT&T and now I see this. If they end up having release dates close together I'm thinking I might go with the hero. The main thing that will bother me is the lack of keyboard since I'm coming from a Kaiser (Tilt).
SuperAdvan said:
White doesnt stay clean for long either.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
White is not definite. Colors and providers are yet to be determined according to an HTC rep on a youtube video that I saw earlier (If I can track it down again I'll include it with an edit....)
SuperAdvan said:
I cant decide either, phones are like PC graphics cards these days.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Agreed, but there's one big difference. You can get an upgrade discount on phones once every 1.5 years, otherwise you're paying out your A$$. Graphics cards are always the same (usually relatively lower) price.

SuperAdvan said:
I know what you mean about WM, but HTC have done a great job of masking the dull and boring monolike OS with Touchflo from what I have seen and WM 6.5 looks like a vast improvement at least visually.
Personally I think you, like me, would probably get bored of Android and the touch screen keypad would drive me nuts in the end.
I tried typing on an Iphone 3GS yesterday to get a (improved) idea of what a Diamond 2 or Hero might be like and with my fingers theres no chance I would type quickly on that ever, it would be like trying to look behind you without moving your head.
TP2 is the way to go, however the Omnia Pro is coming soon too, but then the Nvidia Tegra chipset powered HTC HD sequal is comign - I cant decide either, phones are like PC graphics cards these days.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah you seem like you have the same thoughts as I do. I think you're right about getting tired with the android phone. I love messing with WM and modding it. I know you can with android, but it will have its limits. The thing about touch pro 2 not being a capacitive touch screen, it bums me out and makes me ask why they won't do this with WM yet. I can say they have been improving their resistive screens, big difference from the mogul to the touch pro, so I hope they can do that again. I am definitely leaning toward the touch pro 2. Does anyone know why they won't go with the capacitive screen on WM or touch pro 2?

josiah7 said:
Yeah you seem like you have the same thoughts as I do. I think you're right about getting tired with the android phone. I love messing with WM and modding it. I know you can with android, but it will have its limits. The thing about touch pro 2 not being a capacitive touch screen, it bums me out and makes me ask why they won't do this with WM yet. I can say they have been improving their resistive screens, big difference from the mogul to the touch pro, so I hope they can do that again. I am definitely leaning toward the touch pro 2. Does anyone know why they won't go with the capacitive screen on WM or touch pro 2?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This is exactly why I'm shying away from the TP2 and leaning towards the Hero or the Magic. The sheer idea of there being opportunities where I might need to resort to the stylus are completely holding me back. Guess I'll have to actually play with one before I make my decision; but, since using the capacitive touchscreen (iphone/G1), I'm not sure I can go back.

SuperAdvan said:
Welcome to my world, all these damn phones coming out, Hero I like however things I dont like are the shape, imagine that in your pocket? "Are you pleased to see me or is that a HTC Hero in your pocket?" and as the person above mentioned, lack of keyboard.
White doesnt stay clean for long either.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
LOL! Yeah, I don't like the shape of it too..
I would go for TP2 as it's not going to disappoint you!

Hard descision
touch pro 2 is coming to tmobile august 8th and hero im not sure but the magic is coming july 8th..the resisitive touch screen on the pro is so smooth it feels like its capacitive..and its alot bigger screen and has multitouch..but the hero has android and its built very nicely with the teflon coat and finger print proof screen..i hate phones so many choices ((

Mi|enko said:
This is exactly why I'm shying away from the TP2 and leaning towards the Hero or the Magic. The sheer idea of there being opportunities where I might need to resort to the stylus are completely holding me back. Guess I'll have to actually play with one before I make my decision; but, since using the capacitive touchscreen (iphone/G1), I'm not sure I can go back.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The resistive screen is one of the selling points for me, especially one as finger-friendly as TP2s. Best of both worlds. I get easy navigation without having to constantly sheath and unsheath the stylus, but I can use a compact and conveniently tucked away stylus when needed. I very much doubt I'll ever need it for the basic interface, but with some apps I'll want it. My Palm TX has been my primary Chinese-English dictionary for some time (before it, my Palm T|T and m500 served the same purpose), and the same software is available for WinMo. I'd just as soon use a stylus for character recognition. For that matter, I'd just as soon use a stylus for handwritten memos. I imagine capacitative screen users get by on both fronts just fine, but for me, I'm glad there's a good resistive screen still available.

Mi|enko said:
This is exactly why I'm shying away from the TP2 and leaning towards the Hero or the Magic. The sheer idea of there being opportunities where I might need to resort to the stylus are completely holding me back. Guess I'll have to actually play with one before I make my decision; but, since using the capacitive touchscreen (iphone/G1), I'm not sure I can go back.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So far with my TP2, I have not used the stylus at all and I am a pretty heavy business user, thats emails, facebook, youtube, general browsing and posting on forums, stock, sms.
Whats more I have yet to use the actual qwerty keyboard aswell, I find the touch one good enough everytime unless I'm typing a huge email or document.
My advice is go and actually look at the Diamond 2 and TP2 in the flesh, it is totally different to looking at it on the internet, it really is a quality product.

bobdude5 said:
touch pro 2 is coming to tmobile august 8th and hero im not sure but the magic is coming july 8th..the resisitive touch screen on the pro is so smooth it feels like its capacitive..and its alot bigger screen and has multitouch..but the hero has android and its built very nicely with the teflon coat and finger print proof screen..i hate phones so many choices ((
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
sorry to burst your bubble, sir, but the TP2 doesn't support multi touch. that luxury is reserved for devices that have a capacitive display. and while the TP2 feels like it's capacitive, it isn't. the Hero, on the other hand, IS capacitive and therefore the screen supports multi touch

Windows 7 on HTC Touch Pro2?

I've heard that they won't make the HTC Touch Pro2 windows 7 compatible because of the resistitive touchscreen. But they would make it for HTC HD2 (because it has capacitive screen).
Is this true?
And if so,. what about 6.5.1?

WinMo7 will probably not work on the TP2. As for '6.5.1', well, considering most of the ROMs on this site are running '6.5.3', I think it's safe to say that your question is already answered

NNesin said:
I've heard that they won't make the HTC Touch Pro2 windows 7 compatible because of the resistitive touchscreen. But they would make it for HTC HD2 (because it has capacitive screen).
Is this true?
And if so,. what about 6.5.1?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Welcome to forums
I am sure the great chefs here at XDA will manage to cook a wm7 ROM for Rhodium
Don´t forget to vote!!

NNesin said:
I've heard that they won't make the HTC Touch Pro2 windows 7 compatible because of the resistitive touchscreen. But they would make it for HTC HD2 (because it has capacitive screen).
Is this true?
And if so,. what about 6.5.1?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
windows mobile 7 will not support resistive screens, but i am sure there is a go-around way that will be leaked and implemented, Lol
what i dont understand is why HTC is making considerable amount of new phones that run WM6.5 and have resistive screens (not capacitive so they can be upgraded to WM 7.0 officially)

orb3000 said:
Welcome to forums
I am sure the great chefs here at XDA will manage to cook a wm7 ROM for Rhodium
Don´t forget to vote!!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thank you,
I don't know nothing about these ROM's for windows mobile phones (actually, with the entire windows mobile OS).
Is there a page where I can read the basics of how these things work? Like what a ROM exactly is, how to apply it onto your phone, will it remove ur guarantee. I'm kinda noob Gonna buy this HTC Touch pro2 soon so (preferring it over HD2 [is this weird? lol]), i assume that flashing is worth it.
Thanks in advance

Preferring a TP2 over an HD2 is very weird indeed.. get yourself checked out ASAP.

i prefer tp2 over hd2.
i love the physical keyboard. whammy.

l3it3r said:
Preferring a TP2 over an HD2 is very weird indeed.. get yourself checked out ASAP.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well I would perfer the TP2 over an HD2 ANY DAY my friend. and im Checked as well.
From desgin to hardware its all pretty the same - except maybe for the CPU+Camera.. .. but Consodering the lovley keyboard on tp2 - makes it all worth it. And a Winner of course.
Pitty that WM 7 wont work on the tp2, but it doesent nesserserly mean that its impossible.. like mentioned before it WILL probebly be cooked\made by our developers on xda for the tp2 :, or simply wait until htc releases a Touch pro 3 with 1 Ghz of processor.

l3it3r said:
Preferring a TP2 over an HD2 is very weird indeed.. get yourself checked out ASAP.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I stand with the rest of them, a physical keyboard AND tilting screen rule.
I could also care less about capacitive touch, as resistive is much more precise, thoug lacking in multi-touch :/

No ...
Even if the chiefs will be able to make WM 7.0 run on the TP2 .. i find it hard that it would be usable, ... as lots of the minimum requirments of the WM7.0 do not exist in TP2
ARM v6+, Open GL ES 2.0 graphics HW (TP2 has Open GL ES 1.0), and Multi-touch is required (not optional)!
source: http://www.intomobile.com/2009/05/12/microsoft-pink-specs-windows-mobile-7-requirements-leak.html
so even if we be able to some how override those requirements, the device will be exceptionally sluggish

NNesin said:
Thank you,
I don't know nothing about these ROM's for windows mobile phones (actually, with the entire windows mobile OS).
Is there a page where I can read the basics of how these things work? Like what a ROM exactly is, how to apply it onto your phone, will it remove ur guarantee. I'm kinda noob Gonna buy this HTC Touch pro2 soon so (preferring it over HD2 [is this weird? lol]), i assume that flashing is worth it.
Thanks in advance
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Have a deep read here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550540
l3it3r said:
Preferring a TP2 over an HD2 is very weird indeed.. get yourself checked out ASAP.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I´m weird too as I prefer it for sure
xredjokerx said:
i prefer tp2 over hd2.
i love the physical keyboard. whammy.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Agree
Among other great features!
Rhodium!!!!!!!

What the difference in screens?
New guy here.
Can someone explain the difference between the Resistive and Capacitative screens and why it makes a difference? My only point of reference is that I've used an Axim x51v since that model first came out. I'm looking at the TP2 to replace my Axim and my cell phone in the coming weeks. However, the stats on the HD2 looks more like what I've been waiting for and a closer match to the abilities of my Axim.
Anyway, just curious what the differences were?

TP2 vs. HD2: I also prefer the TP2. If only it had a Snapdragon inside...
JohnMcD348 said:
New guy here.
Can someone explain the difference between the Resistive and Capacitative screens and why it makes a difference? My only point of reference is that I've used an Axim x51v since that model first came out. I'm looking at the TP2 to replace my Axim and my cell phone in the coming weeks. However, the stats on the HD2 looks more like what I've been waiting for and a closer match to the abilities of my Axim.
Anyway, just curious what the differences were?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Resistive screens have sensors that respond to the pressure you apply on the screen, thus being able to use anything (fingers, pen, stylus) to use the screen. There's no multitouch.
Capacitive screens, I believe, have conductive sensors that respond to the electric current that comes from your skin? Hence the necessity of using your fingers, rather than being able to use other materials. Multitouch is supported.

l3it3r said:
Preferring a TP2 over an HD2 is very weird indeed.. get yourself checked out ASAP.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
yeah, i'll chime in with my support for TP2 over the HD2. I was excited to hear that the HD2 was coming to the US, but after having the TP2 for a week or so, making heavy use of email, IM, texting and Word Mobile (wrote a 800 word article on my daily commute over 3 days), I realize how useful the physical keyboard is.
still, I have a Blackberry Storm for backup, or when I'm traveling and don't wanna be weighed down by the TP2. But the big screen and customizability of the phone is probably going to be enough to keep me from switching for at least 1.5 years. By the time I buy my next phone, I hope it'll have a 4.3 inch screen like the HD2, a physical keyboard, a MicroSDXC slot and come in at under 13mm wide.

sumflipnol said:
TP2 vs. HD2: I also prefer the TP2. If only it had a Snapdragon inside...
Resistive screens have sensors that respond to the pressure you apply on the screen, thus being able to use anything (fingers, pen, stylus) to use the screen. There's no multitouch.
Capacitive screens, I believe, have conductive sensors that respond to the electric current that comes from your skin? Hence the necessity of using your fingers, rather than being able to use other materials. Multitouch is supported.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
OK, thanks for that. I guess I prefer the Resistive screens as I still use a Stylus pen for a majority of my work with handhelds. I have very large hands and find using a touch screen and the small keyboards a pain. I've been doing it for so many years that I'm actually pretty good and writing on the screen versus the onscreen keyboard.
So I guess eventually, I'll be out of luck when it comes to technology. If WinMo 7 won't support the resistive type screens I'll just have to stick with what I've got by then. Heck, I've been using my Axim x51v since it first came out and am only now seriously looking into getting something converged

I haven't used the physical keyboard on my TP2 more than a few times, and I really didn't NEED to then either. In the past, with tiny screens, yes, i'd agree. But when you have SIP options like fingerkeyboard or SWYPE (!!), the keyboard isn't really needed IMO. And saying the HD2 is the same as the TP2 minus a few parts is laughable at best. The HD2 has 802.11n, it has a 4.3" capacitve dual touch screen, 1ghz processor, etc etc etc...
In fact, I'm fairly certain that the TP2 has wet dreams about being replaced by the HD2.
I'm not saying that I don't like having a keyboard... because until recently I refused to buy anything that didn't have it (see history in sig). But, like the stylus (which I never use either), the keyboard is becoming less and less important the better and better the screens and software become.

I totally understand what some people are saying about how amazing the new technologies are. But I think there are a lot of people like myself out there who focus on the very essential things:
- It has to effortlessly make phone calls.
- It has to effortlessly allow me to get through a properly typed email or text.
- It has to be functional through more than a touch screen because psychologically the tactile experience of a button provides you with a subconscious comfort level if you're used to it.
I LOVE tech. I'm a TOTAL tech guy and need to know everything that's out there and follow it's r&d, but i can't have a phone that only has touch. And I don't think it will ever be a perfect enough technology to replace the physical button experience. I think what we're seeing now is a trend. It won't die, but it won't ever completely dominate. Touch screen typing tries to solve a problem that doesn't exist and for that reason, as a business model, most business people will tell you that it won't ever find a large enough market. The population is getting older, and that market segment prefers something they can use with ease. I'm sure some older people like the touch experience, but not enough of them will in the future unless some revolutionary technology appears that makes touch typing as flawless as a keyboard where the only error is human error.
Just my opinion. I tried to say "I think" as much as possible.

well said. I think that you should check out the swype keyboard though. it works Very well and is extremely accurate.

th3stinger said:
Well I would perfer the TP2 over an HD2 ANY DAY my friend. and im Checked as well.
From desgin to hardware its all pretty the same - except maybe for the CPU+Camera.. .. but Consodering the lovley keyboard on tp2 - makes it all worth it. And a Winner of course.
Pitty that WM 7 wont work on the tp2, but it doesent nesserserly mean that its impossible.. like mentioned before it WILL probebly be cooked\made by our developers on xda for the tp2 :, or simply wait until htc releases a Touch pro 3 with 1 Ghz of processor.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I agree! Im upgrading from my att fuze today just to get the bigger screen and bigger hardware keyboard since i dont have woman fingers for this tiny fuze keyboard!
Now if HD2 had a tilt screen and hardware keyboard, all other phones would be out of service! Since it doesnt and wont, it leaves a large playing field for other devices. anyways, by the time wm7 is even usuable, im sure there will be a tp3 by then for it!

I'm only speaking from my personal experience here. I RARELY use the keyboard on my TP2. I thought I would use it a LOT more than I have, but the on screen keyboards, especially Swype, are big enough to get 99% of the text input in that I do on a day to day basis. I'm 90% sure my next device will be sans keyboard. Will be the first one I've ever owned, so I'll be sure to voice my opinion then.

On screen keyboard question!!

Hey everyone, I'm a soon to be owner. I'm coming from a long life with Blackberry, and even though I love their push solutions and stellar battery life, I need a change. Iphone doesn't work for me,because it's too closed. I had a device with android 1.5, and I loved it, but it was lacking a lot. Android 2.1 and 2.2 looks great. The HTC Desire is an awesome device (spec wise) and I will go pick myself up one next week or this weekend.
But I did have a question.
How's typing on it? I'm a very fast typer. Can the processor keep up? I've had devices that have lagged on typing. I'm fairly accurate and such, but will the device slow down while writing a long email or anything like that? My old android device had this issue. How's the on screen keyboard?
Thanks guys .

The on screen keypad is fast, no lagging at all and really accurate.
I can say 100% that even a fast typer will not be able to cause any lag. the only niggle is that the full stop is pretty close to the space bar
so.sometimes.i.type.like.this. but hey thats me not hitting the space bar.

Lol! Thanks I can't wait to get my desire . I hope it rocks! I'm looking to go away from Blackberry! Regardless, does double space introduce a full stop? on my BB it does, and on the iphone as well it does. I think HTC should implement that. It's a great fast way to put a period!

zkyevolved said:
Lol! Thanks I can't wait to get my desire . I hope it rocks! I'm looking to go away from Blackberry! Regardless, does double space introduce a full stop? on my BB it does, and on the iphone as well it does. I think HTC should implement that. It's a great fast way to put a period!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yep, double space does enter a period. BTW I'm sure you'll be really pleased with your Desire, it's a really awesome bit of tech.

Anybody jump ship from Touch Pro2 to Desire? How are you holding up? I know the specs are good but i'm only worried i cannot get used to the on screen typing....been a qwerty person since Palm Treo180
The shops here has stocks and i can just go out and grab one but i'm also looking on the development side and i have no idea what those guys are talking about I'm a first timer to Linux based so please be patient

Htc Desire or Htc HD2

Hi, I've got on past 3 days an Htc Desire ... but my first impressions it's seems for childreens and not profecional users and app...well I don't thing my presciors tomtom and ndrive for gps :S...
I see the HD2 but i'm afraid sell the desire and buy the htc hd2
camera...gps...memorie....etc...whats diferents?

RicardoPT said:
Hi, I've got on past 3 days an Htc Desire ... but my first impressions it's seems for childreens and not profecional users and app...well I don't thing my presciors tomtom and ndrive for gps :S...
I see the HD2 but i'm afraid sell the desire and buy the htc hd2
camera...gps...memorie....etc...whats diferents?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The hardware is the same as the desire, apart from the larger display (which is LCD not AMOLED). I have come from the HD2 to the Desire and use it for work as well as play. The HD2 was just too big for everyday use. The desire works fine for work applications - using Touchdown for corporate mail sync etc etc. I use Copilot for navigation, but there are other soutions including google.

Try this site for differences from a hardware perspective.
If you're not already sold on Android just being "better" than WinMo, go with the HD2. In a corporate environment, WinMo is probably just about a better choice than Android, but only barely and the gap can generally be covered by 3rd party applications. WinMo also has better support for multimedia (DivX etc), but again the gap is narrowing. In practically all other respects Android is a superior OS IMHO.
Regards,
Dave

for portugal not :S.....we pay alot for internet connection :S...I need a trust map like tomtom and ndrive...
I've already tried garmin and don't like it :S, just to much lag :S...and don't have my street loool
the camera is better then hd2 yes? In read the wm don't use very well the camera :S
Another thing I like to do a video call =/...on the desire it's not possible oO
hd2 can?
ps: thaks fot repply

NDrive is available for Android, but my preferred choice is Copilot because it works very well and is extremely well priced (and has offline maps).
Neither the Desire nor the HD2 have front facing cameras, so video calls are not possible.
Regards,
Dave

To be honest, I've been using touch diamond 2, and windows mobile for me is a little disappointing! Seriously.
Get the desire! It changed my life.
Sent from my HTC Desire

this help a litle bit man .....I will search on youtube...but I'm disapointed with android os :S
foxmeister said:
Try this site for differences from a hardware perspective.
If you're not already sold on Android just being "better" than WinMo, go with the HD2. In a corporate environment, WinMo is probably just about a better choice than Android, but only barely and the gap can generally be covered by 3rd party applications. WinMo also has better support for multimedia (DivX etc), but again the gap is narrowing. In practically all other respects Android is a superior OS IMHO.
Regards,
Dave
Click to expand...
Click to collapse

I'm coming from a WinMo 6.5.3 HTC Touch HD (HD1) and while I can't comment on the hardware of the HD2, I do miss a bit the larger screen, but otherwise I guess the Desire is better.
For the OS and software: android is sure more modern and oriented towards capacitive touchscreens, has better generic applications and games, but if I had to choose it purely for work I don't know what I would choose.
I sure as hell miss a solid email client and no aftermarket client on android comes close to Pocket Outlook integration, exchange, etc. That said, this is normal, since the desire pertains more to the consumer-oriented market, while winmo comes from the professional-oriented field. Besides if you only need it for work/emails/phone you could probably go with BB.

=/...man :S.....I don't know....
iphone 4g ??? looool much pay app =/...
soo...hd and desire don't have video call
whats is the best choise of the moment....I need a complete pda...and complete support like xda
I view reviews of the desire and I bought one....But i'm concern about this :S

RicardoPT said:
whats is the best choise of the moment....I need a complete pda...and complete support like xda
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You pays your money and you takes your choice! You're posting on a Desire forum, so you are going to get a lot of nods towards the Desire!
I view reviews of the desire and I bought one....But i'm concern about this :S
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Why not approach the problem from the other way round? If you have concerns about your Desire, tell us what they are!
Regards,
Dave

RicardoPT said:
but I'm disapointed with android os :S
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Coming myself from WinMo (which did the job), I'm must say I'm not at all disappointed with Android.
I only use it professionnally and I don't see what is your problem with it! Explain a wee bit!

I will try another roms and try this phone one more days...testing testing testing
my probleme is.....thats like a children phone
but its my thinking just for now

The major thing that makes me miss my Touch Hd is the lack of the stylus and absence of Transcriber and Handwriting recognition. For professional use, sometimes I need to write longer emails and the stylus plus handwriting recognition was great for that. However, the desire is much faster. I think HD 2 is very fast too. If it has a stylus and writing recognition amd you need it professionally I would recommend windows mobile
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

RicardoPT said:
my probleme is.....thats like a children phone
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Waouw, that's a convincing explanation!
I didn't know they made phones for children.

Nuntius said:
Waouw, that's a convincing explanation!
I didn't know they made phones for children.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Indeed - I think I'll take the advice that the OP has in his sig!
Regards,
Dave

bah...I don't like it at all......I want to sell it =/
I already put my sell in the markplace...350€ for I can buy one hd2

I've got an HD2 and it's been sat in its box for 7 months as the Desire is SO much better. WinMo is ancient now compared to Android and the only thing going for it is the screen. Even with my own ROM on it it's not as good as the Desire out the box!
I wouldn't go back to WinMo now unless WP7S is something special - which I doubt!!

Who would trade Android for Winmo !!!????
Winmo is just GARBISH ! after two HTC phone with WM , i should say that i hate it !
Android is So MUCH BETTER !
if u want to go to Win-mo so badly , and call a USER FRIENDLY INTERFACE => " CHILD PHONE " then go for it !
dunno why some people must have a hard time using their phones to feel Professionals ! so why not using MS-DOS instead of windows and feel a lot more Professional !
with a little search u would find that the most HATED MOBILE OS IS INDEED : WINDOWS MOBILE !
PS : as a suggestion w8 at least for Winmo7 !

The fact that MY HD2 is still sat on my desk is evidence enough that I'm not 100% convinced the Desire is the better option. I've stuck with the Desire for 3 weeks now getting to know it and flashing a few roms. I can cetainly see the appeal. I like the marktplace and I LOVE Rom Manager (100% the best feature for me) Browsing is nice, in fact MOST things are nice. I do feel Sat Nav is in a league of it's own on WinMob and I much prefer the bigger screen. The relative bulk of the phone doesn't put me off, I like it big in my hand (oo-er). If The Evo was out in the UK I would probably sell both and get one of them and wait patiently for Sat nav to get better on Android.

I've had a Desire for a couple of weeks now and the HD2 for much longer.
When I got the Desire my plan was to switch phones every couple of days while deciding which I preferred. It hasn't quite worked out that way, I use the HD2 for a week or so and the Desire for a day or two.
I haven't rooted the Desire, I have stock ROMs on both phones. Nervous I'll brick it I suppose and on the HD2 there are so many cabs available on XDA to change the appearance of icons, sliders, clockfaces etc that I haven't felt any real need to flash a new ROM
Desire - better interface, touch screen much more responsive, better selection of apps
HD2 - much more tweakable, much better screen size. With Cookie's home tab and the various cabs I have installed I feel my HD2 is unique. Still new to Desire, perhap I can get the same level of customisation if I root it first?
When it comes to apps I don't really have that many on either phone so the Desire's app range isn't that big an influence. The ones I use the most are file manager, registry editor, ebook reader, satnav, media player, mail and messaging. I've got Swype on both but on the HD2 it doesn't seem to be quite as accurate as on the Desire, but that'll be the HD2 screen.
On the apps front the HD2 really wins out in that I can run Secubox - this is an app I use every day (its like Truecrypt for Winmo), and there doesn't seem to be an equivalent on Android.
For Satnav I have TomTom on HD2 and am still just using Google maps on Desire. I may try Copilot though.
Anyway, I'm still undecided. I use the HD2 most often but when I do use the Desire I can't stop picking it up and playing with it ...... even if I prefer the HD2 in the end, there's nothing like an evening spent stroking my Desire
Oh and I almost forgot - being able to run the HD2 as a wireless router has come in handy a couple of times, don't seem to be able to do that with the Desire

Your desire wears off?

Tricky title?
I don't know if this is the correct subforum... if not, mods please transfer.
Anyway... As many of you probably did, I have had many phones. The thing is that with my previous devices, the desire for them got lost in like a week after I purchased the device. But with the HTC Desire, I have kinda different feeling. I mean, I purchased my Desire like a month now, and I am not a bit bored by it. It still looks fun to me, and I still find interesting things to do with it. So, what is your opinions about this? How long did you enjoyed your new "shiny" device, and for how long you have been (are) enjoying the Desire?

I know for me the fact I can mould the phone how I want has played a huge part in keeping me interested. I usually upgrade to nokia E class phone, the E71 was my last phone, but coming from a linux fanboy the Desire feels like -my- phone just like my laptop is moulded exactly how I want it.
The fact its the first phone I've owned that has yet to struggle with anything I throw at it helps a huge amount too
Sent from my HTC Desire using the XDA mobile application powered by Tapatalk

Longer then the HTC HD2, BlackBerry Bold
This device is amazing indeed. I still have moments that I look at it and think... wow And soon Froyo will come, which will give you another few weeks of 'new enjoyment'. Also I still hope that the Android Market is going to start filling with great quality apps soon :0) Angry Birds this summer is a must have game.
And in Q4, Android 3 may be released and we can start enjoying that. (probably not from HTC, but from XDA) There is lots going on in the Android World!

ljesh said:
Tricky title?
I don't know if this is the correct subforum... if not, mods please transfer.
Anyway... As many of you probably did, I have had many phones. The thing is that with my previous devices, the desire for them got lost in like a week after I purchased the device. But with the HTC Desire, I have kinda different feeling. I mean, I purchased my Desire like a month now, and I am not a bit bored by it. It still looks fun to me, and I still find interesting things to do with it. So, what is your opinions about this? How long did you enjoyed your new "shiny" device, and for how long you have been (are) enjoying the Desire?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm pretty much bored with it as I get with any phone once you do all with it you wanted. It becomes just another phone. The only difference with this one is that I'm hell angry on HTC for there build quality in general which covers everything from the poor UMTS reception to the stupid body design with button back light shining through micro holes under the screen.

Balos said:
The only difference with this one is that I'm hell angry on HTC for there build quality in general which covers everything from the poor UMTS reception to the stupid body design
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Been happy with my HTC phones since I opened up a box of Magics and knew I was buying one by the end of the day. I've now had a Magic, a Hero and now my Desire and I always find something new to do or try out every week and that's without having rooted the phone. Before this I've had a S.E. W950 and after an E71 and while I've had my Hero I've had an iPhone and I've got to say that the iPhone has nothing on the overall features and abilities of even my Hero.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

I have to agree with y'all. If it was not for the battery, this device would be absolutely perfect!
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App