I've see much vids of Desire but none of them reveal the capabilities of the new joystick. What are its functions, is it more close to joystick or a trackpad?
its like the trackball of the other android devices, just optical -> u can slide over it....and if u hold your finger on the optic sensor u can klick with it, somebody said in a video that u'll get hardware feedback when using the optical joy
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLjsEP_D3Os&feature=related
Yeah I saw that vid. Simple swiping and clicking can be done with touch screen either. A demonstration of more precise operations is needed.
djet said:
Yeah I saw that vid. Simple swiping and clicking can be done with touch screen either. A demonstration of more precise operations is needed.
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What more precise operations?
Thats all you're going to do with it lol, swiping and clicking.
brummiesteven said:
What more precise operations?
Thats all you're going to do with it lol, swiping and clicking.
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A real joystick or a real trackpad allows much more than swiping and clicking.
For example, you can hold a joystick direction to trigger autorepeat or make really fast movements without taking finger off.
it's an optical trackball, for want of a better term.
In the same way that you get optical mice as opposed to a mouse with a ball in the bottom. The optical trackpad is simply an optical version of the scroll ball... in other words, same functions as the regular scroll ball without the moving parts.
djet said:
A real joystick or a real trackpad allows much more than swiping and clicking.
For example, you can hold a joystick direction to trigger autorepeat or make really fast movements without taking finger off.
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Would this be your first android device?
You don't really need to do that in android, I don't think I ever have on the G1
brummiesteven said:
Would this be your first android device?
You don't really need to do that in android, I don't think I ever have on the G1
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It would be usefull in some apps like games or emulators.
there may be an option to add shortcuts when clicking at home screen......like one tab go to appA two tabs go to appB...dunno some imagination
ClausG76 said:
It would be usefull in some apps like games or emulators.
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This is what I want too.
Dont want my big thumbs messing up the whole screen.
I look forward to the optical tracking system. I suppose it may be because I don't play action style games. I'm more of a puzzle/cards kind of guy. There are very few times I play phone games any how.
Actually i can't see the optical version making more sense, than the mechanical.
I personally almost never use it.
I believe its main uses would be as a hardware camera-button (that is, for taking the photo), and to scroll in text when typing.
Yep....Useless....I use my trackball about once every couple of days. Touch here and touch there is much faster... Oh wait I use it whenever I install a new ROM.. Just checking the threads trying to find something.
&RoidRage said:
Yep....Useless....I use my trackball about once every couple of days. Touch here and touch there is much faster... Oh wait I use it whenever I install a new ROM.. Just checking the threads trying to find something.
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That's why desire is good, no trackball sticking out! Nice and small button with optical tracking ;-)
Can it be used like the N1 trackball for missed calls and sms??
Blinking lights I mean
Just to answer a couple of questions:
1) There is no notification light on the optical trackpad.
2) I've tried this with the Nesoid emulator and while it works, it's pretty terrible to use for directional control, but maybe OK for any games that require 'swiping' motions.
jpxdude said:
Just to answer a couple of questions:
1) There is no notification light on the optical trackpad.
2) I've tried this with the Nesoid emulator and while it works, it's pretty terrible to use for directional control, but maybe OK for any games that require 'swiping' motions.
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does the onscreen pad and buttons support multitouch? you can use dpad while pressing A for example?
Gibbz1 said:
does the onscreen pad and buttons support multitouch? you can use dpad while pressing A for example?
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Hi There,
It does support Multitouch, but it is pretty fiddly, I think because the image of the onscreen d-pad and buttons to not line up exactly on the Desire with Nesoid. I have had more luck with the multitouch using Snesoid, which feels very good! (i.e, in Super Mario All-Stars I can run and jump at the same time)
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Hey everyone. I was using the camera app the other day, and it got me thinking that it would be incredibly convenient and practical to be able to use the volume rocker to take pictures instead of the optical trackpad. I've done a bit of searching, and I haven't seen anything about this in the Incredible forum, so if anyone has a solution or idea, feel free to let me know!
I agree. The optical jog is terrible. Almost impossible to hold the camera steady and use it.
marcmarshall said:
I agree. The optical jog is terrible. Almost impossible to hold the camera steady and use it.
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Ditto.
Maybe even be able to rotate the camera app so the volume buttons are in the traditional location of the shutter button.
its like one of three things i miss about my blackberry storm. the camera button, the way that profiles and settings were consolidated into one space, and batch actions for messages (delete all, mark all unread, etc)
i hope that someone comes up with something for this. especially allowing camera to rotate would be great.
Camera zoom fx
Check it out in the android market
It works great.
yujikaido79 said:
Check it out in the android market
It works great.
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Check what out?
mrlanrat said:
Check what out?
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its in the title of his post, which doesn't show up in most places except the main forum....camera zoom fx i think it was?
is there any on-screen virtual touchpad or trackball that would permanently dock at the bottom of the screen that would move a 'mouse' like pointer or selection area on-screen? with the evo having just a large touch screen, there's no way to 'highlight' things without just pressing it with your finger. Does this make sense?
the touch input htc keyboard has those 4 navigation arrows across the bottom of the keyboard, which i'd love to port to swype too, but the only way to use them is to open the full keyboard, which covers too much of the screen if you aren't typing something.
BTW - did everyone know if you hold down(long press) the menu button, you can toggle the keyboard anywhere you are, not just a text-input box? love it
you should really try searching the forums, there is already a thread on this idea.
younggunner said:
you should really try searching the forums, there is already a thread on this idea.
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gee, that was helpful... I was wondering the same thing, actually, and DID search the forums and found nothing. If someone happens to know which thread is being spoken of here, I'm sure a link would be appreciated...
i did try search
i also found nothing, thats why i posted.
wlpywd said:
i also found nothing, thats why i posted.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=730693
type3 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=730693
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that, I believe, is actually not what he's talking about. I believe you are looking for something along the lines of Virtual Trackball, version 1.2 is out
NOTE: i believe it requires ROOT, so make sure you're rooted.
onelovekir said:
that, I believe, is actually not what he's talking about. I believe you are looking for something along the lines of Virtual Trackball, version 1.2 is out
NOTE: i believe it requires ROOT, so make sure you're rooted.
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If you go all the way through the thread, it is about Virtual Trackball by the end of it. In the end, they wanted Virtual Trackball to use the touch sensitive area on the search button. The developer never really got back to them.
But the OP seems to want something like the CM6 mouse support without actually needing to use a mouse. Admittedly, this would be kind of cool. Ultimately though, you'd be using a portion of the touch input to control a mouse that is simulating using your finger. It's a little redundant seeming.
what are the best key mappings for nesoid and such youve experienced?? tryna decide whether the virtual keyboard is the best option or not. cant seem to press the right keys sometimes when using the physical keyboard???
sheltrack said:
what are the best key mappings for nesoid and such youve experienced?? tryna decide whether the virtual keyboard is the best option or not. cant seem to press the right keys sometimes when using the physical keyboard???
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WASZ for the D-pad and IJKM for the buttons
Flippy125 said:
WASZ for the D-pad and IJKM for the buttons
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Thats what I use, and initially, it felt strange but now its like a normal controller. I used WASZ for the d pad. In GBA, I use JK for a and b, in genesis its HJK and in psx4droid I use IJKM for triangle, square, circle, cross. I also use Q and O for L1/R1 respectively.
Initially, you will keep mispressing buttons, but as you keep playing, it will become second nature.
I'm going to get a Gnex soon, and one of the main things I will want to do play my old games. I heard the soft keys are not on screen when not used, so what do you do to bring up the soft keys? And if they were always there that would kind of ruin the experience for games and movies, wouldn't it? I plan to use bt and on screen controllers so if the keys were always on screen that could cause problems. Thanks for helping a noob.
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I'm going to get a Gnex soon, and one of the main things I will want to do play my old games. I heard the soft keys are not on screen when not used, so what do you do to bring up the soft keys? And if they were always there that would kind of ruin the experience for games and movies, wouldn't it? I plan to use bt and on screen controllers so if the keys were always on screen that could cause problems. Thanks for helping a noob.
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The soft keys turn into a dot, it will still be there.
The API for it is for videos, where you won't be touching your screen. Once you touch your screen, the button,s will pop back out, so the API won't work for games.
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The soft keys turn into a dot, it will still be there.
The API for it is for videos, where you won't be touching your screen. Once you touch your screen, the button,s will pop back out, so the API won't work for games.
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Thanks for the info. What does API mean? I Googled it but I couldn't figure it out. So on an emulator, the d-pad may be right next to the softkeys and possible to hit at any given time? Also, when outputting with HDMI to a TV, are the keys or dots on the tv? Thanks again.
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Thanks for the info. What does API mean? I Googled it but I couldn't figure it out. So on an emulator, the d-pad may be right next to the softkeys and possible to hit at any given time? Also, when outputting with HDMI to a TV, are the keys or dots on the screen? Thanks again.
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Nah, i did not hit the softkeys on accident while playing pokemon
Outputting on HDMI is basically mirroring your phone's display, so the softkeys will still be a dot.
API: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Application_programming_interface
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Nah, i did not hit the softkeys on accident while playing pokemon
Outputting on HDMI is basically mirroring your phone's display, so the softkeys will still be a dot.
API: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Application_programming_interface
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Cool thanks. Sounds good. I'm hoping for a price drop on Monday, and I'm still deciding about the gnex or an unlocked gs2 skyrocket. I'm a big fan of the gs2 aesthetically having used an epic 4g touch extensively.
the benifit of on-screen buttons is when your finger slides from the display area to the navbar, it knows and doesn't do anything (unless you lift your finger before pressing it)
so in games like osu it's so helpful (i have accidentally pressed the back button on my razr while playing)
You can always use a custom ROM that allows you to disable the buttons in the power menu. I know AOKP has it and it works flawlessly.
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Cool thats good information thanks for helping a noob
As the title says, does anyone use PIE/LMT instead of the onscreen buttons, how does it interfere with the fp reader if its activatable form the bottom?
thanks
"Instead of onscreen buttons"??? This device doesn't need onscreen buttons at all because it has hardware buttons!
Pie/LMT is anyway much inferior to using GMD Gesture Control which works much faster and more ergonomically. (Works just fine on the OP3.)
hasenbein1966 said:
"Instead of onscreen buttons"??? This device doesn't need onscreen buttons at all because it has hardware buttons!
Pie/LMT is anyway much inferior to using GMD Gesture Control which works much faster and more ergonomically. (Works just fine on the OP3.)
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Thanks for the reply, judging by some pictures on the internet on reviews i assumed it had on screen buttons: http://www.androidcentral.com/sites...s/2016/06/oneplus-3-display.jpg?itok=K8wUurJ5
whats GMD, only for OP3 or wider available? never heard of it.
you mean this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1535740 ?
Yup, that app.
It's really one of THE best Android apps, and I used it on ALL my devices since my first Android phone in 2011. Works perfectly, feels like an inbuilt Android feature.
hasenbein1966 said:
Yup, that app.
It's really one of THE best Android apps, and I used it on ALL my devices since my first Android phone in 2011. Works perfectly, feels like an inbuilt Android feature.
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but yeah the OP3 has physical home/back/task buttons?
yes, it has. case closed. period.
You can still use LMT. I use it on just about every phone I get...especially larger ones. I don't so much need it for home and back but it's super nice to have for a menu button...especially in chrome versus having to reach all the way to the top right (I hold my phone in my left hand usually). Anyway when mine arrives I plan on still using LMT on the sides.