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Hey,
today i have seen a video of the new HTC Hero with the HTC Sense GUI.
I also read that the new Windows Mobile Phones will have this GUI.
Does one of the seniors know if this GUI can be portet to Touch Diamond?
Hear a little promo video;-)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCodXvFrz5E
Greetz
if htc would release it on wm ....
in this case sense runs on android...so we have to wait ..maybe it will be released on wm 6.5
Farcical question. Please have some self-respect. This is currently on Android.
First try and get Android ported, if you want it ported from Android. If you want a WM version, then let it at least release or leak before you can even contemplate such a question.
Looks very similar to the palm pre's os
I read that the new Windows Mobiles Phones will have HTC Sense to.
So if the Touch Diamond 2 will updated with Windows Mobile 6.5 and HTC Sense there will be no problem!?
nuke1 said:
Farcical question. Please have some self-respect. This is currently on Android.
First try and get Android ported, if you want it ported from Android. If you want a WM version, then let it at least release or leak before you can even contemplate such a question.
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Allright mate, calm down.
nuke1 said:
Farcical question. Please have some self-respect. This is currently on Android.
First try and get Android ported, if you want it ported from Android. If you want a WM version, then let it at least release or leak before you can even contemplate such a question.
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O come on!
I think HTC intend to have this interface on all of their new handsets, WinMo and Android both. There's also been some talk of it coming out on the Touch Diamond 2. No doubt some enterprising hacker from XDA-Devs will come up with an installable version for various phones.
I think the main problem might be if the phone assumes a Widescreen format (e.g. WVGA) rather than the diamond's VGA. I think the HTC Hero is actually lower-res than WVGA though so perhaps this won't be an issue.
The Hero is HVGA (320 x 480) resolution. HTC have said that the "Sense" interface will be available on "some" existing products. Best guess is that it'll only be available for those products that require minimal effort in porting. They have a vested interest in selling new phones, not propping up old ones
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O come on!
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I don't think so. Nuke1 was correct. How can we consider a porting job when the UI is released on another OS and on a resolution currently not used on our phones!
You guys bit down on him too hard. The original question is exceptionally far out. There is no software or evidence to even investigate into porting. It hasn't happened yet so there is no basis for an answer...?
blibble said:
The Hero is HVGA (320 x 480) resolution. HTC have said that the "Sense" interface will be available on "some" existing products. Best guess is that it'll only be available for those products that require minimal effort in porting. They have a vested interest in selling new phones, not propping up old ones
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And spot on. I'll put money on it that most phones coming from HTC will be WVGA so if/when Sense UI makes it's way to WM it will most likely be in that resolution. Which will equate to a porting job for VGA devices.
However there is no such software released in any resolution for WM at least, so as I said above, even considering porting it (at this stage) is simply impossible.
pablo11 said:
Allright mate, calm down.
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I just didn't see the point of this thread considering the Android version has barely leaked, and here we have a guy asking if a WM version can be ported, while there's still bugs in Manila 2.
If it was simply a question, then post it in the general Diamond section, not the ROM section, esp. at this early stage.
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]O come on!
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Come where?
Hello everyone. Can I have some expert opinion please? Do we think that the tilt 2 which was just released last Oct. and I just got mine last week, will be able to support windows mobile 7? Do we think that AT&T will upgrade the OS when it comes out? Being and owner of win mo phones since the 8125 first came out, I know how slow AT&T is to release updated OS's.
This is by no means an "expert" opinion. But the general consensus nowadays is that only the HD2 is confirmed to support WinMo7 and our TP2 will not.
But, consider this:
-WinMo 6.5 was not meant to be on the Touch Diamond.
-WinMo devices were not meant to run Android.
-Sense 2.5 was not meant to come to our TP2.
Yet all the above are happening thanks to the great minds of XDA developers...
I'm not an expert at all...
But it seems like it's one thing for W7 to be somehow cooked to run on the TP2, but another thing for it to run well, without excessive lag (for example).
ohyeahar said:
This is by no means an "expert" opinion. But the general consensus nowadays is that only the HD2 is confirmed to support WinMo7 and our TP2 will not.
But, consider this:
-WinMo 6.5 was not meant to be on the Touch Diamond.
-WinMo devices were not meant to run Android.
-Sense 2.5 was not meant to come to our TP2.
Yet all the above are happening thanks to the great minds of XDA developers...
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This is a great point. Whenever someone dares to mention WinMo7 on the TP2, you get flamed and the spec impossibilities yelled at your face. But exactly my point about what people said "couldn't" be done!
It definitely won't be easy, but as long as the OS is cook-able, somebody will take on the task.
What worries me is though, WM7 may not be WM at all! Several reports told something about Zune OS being used instead, and being incompatible with any of the old applications. I hope not
sukru said:
It definitely won't be easy, but as long as the OS is cook-able, somebody will take on the task.
What worries me is though, WM7 may not be WM at all! Several reports told something about Zune OS being used instead, and being incompatible with any of the old applications. I hope not
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The Zune OS is based off of the Windows CE kernel, which is also the base for Windows Mobile, so there wouldn't be complete incompatibility as some of the false rumors lead you to believe. There are a lot of blatantly false rumors floating around on even the most respected WM sites, so take every unconfirmed rumor you read about WM 7 with a grain of salt.
Though I would love Windows Mobile 7 on the Touch Pro2, I have to say that it's pretty unlikely it'll happen. First, to everyone who gives the example of WM6 running on WM5 devices and WM6.5 running on WM 6.x/5.x devices, the reason this is easy is because all these operating systems (WM5-WM6) run the same Windows CE 5.2 kernel. It's a lot easier to backport an OS when it uses the same kernel. Windows Mobile 7 is going to be based off Windows CE 6 or 7, and it'll likely take a hell of a lot of low-level work to get WM7 on the Pro2.
If you don't believe me, look in this thread at PPCGeeks, where some of the most technical people discuss this issue in more detail. It seems to me that we'll need a new everything, from the SPL and bootloader to new hardware drivers (since it's extremely unlikely that WM7 will support the Qualcomm MSM series considering the rumored WM 6.5.x and WM 7 coexistance scheme, where only 6.5 supports lower end devices and hardware like the MSM series).
I'm not saying I don't want WM 7 on the Rhodium, since I really do, but I am trying to be realistic here, so I'm gonna say it's likely no to WM 7 on the Pro2.
one guy from htc russia announced WM7 minimal requirements: 8Gb onboard, CPU1GHz,FM, 5Mpx,compass,G-sensor,3,6",WVGA.
but of course its not true
My Universal (2005) came with wm5!
Then upgraded to wm6, then to wm6.1 and I got it working with wm6.5
I´m sure the great chefs here will manage something so we can have wm7 for sure!
Did a quick search on the the forum and didnt find anythign..
Is this going to eventualy be able to be ported for the tilt2?
I have to say i am pissed on what it is looking like so far, I really liked windows mobile because it was different and had multaple devices that you could choese but I would like to try it at least.
I know it may be too early but thought I would see if someone knew
Windows 7
From what I have heard, All current wm 6 phones will not be able to upgrade to wm7. I beleive they are upgrading all phones that will have wm7 system with better, faster processors and the current phones dont have them and ultimately wm7 won't work on them. Consequently wm7 wont be coming out until well into 2011.....atleast the 3rd quarter.....as rumors have it that is....hope that helped.
also it is rumored wm7 requires capacitive touch screens, we have resistive with the tp2.
There will be NO WM7 for the TP2 .. Really I dont want it.. you wont be able to get all the COOL apps we have or do all the things we do to hack out phone as easy! all APPS will need to come through the app store like the apple iphone..
dahauss said:
There will be NO WM7 for the TP2 .. Really I dont want it.. you wont be able to get all the COOL apps we have or do all the things we do to hack out phone as easy! all APPS will need to come through the app store like the apple iphone..
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yep, you also have to use internet explorer, bing search, bing maps, zune marketplace. you get no real customization or third party apps. its horrible. htc sense looks better tbh. what youre gonna want running on your phone in a year is android.
brianmay27 said:
Did a quick search on the the forum and didnt find anythign..
Is this going to eventualy be able to be ported for the tilt2?
I have to say i am pissed on what it is looking like so far, I really liked windows mobile because it was different and had multaple devices that you could choese but I would like to try it at least.
I know it may be too early but thought I would see if someone knew
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I´m sure a great Chef will manage to port it in some way
Have a read on WP7 section to follow all details
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=605
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also it is rumored wm7 requires capacitive touch screens, we have resistive with the tp2.
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Considering the HD2 has a capacitive screen and they were able to port that over to the touch pro 2 I'm sure it IS doable. They also had said they the Sense 2.5 interface would run to slow on our phones and now its blazing fast.
That said.... odd's are it'll get ported to the HD2 well before the touch pro 2.
I have no doubt that it'll get ported though, buy that time though I'd be ready to upgrade my phone anyway
It's extremely doubtful at best that this device will ever see Windows Mobile 7. One problem lies in with the hardware. Windows Mobile 7 will not be made or compiled for the MSM7xxx series of processor, only the newer, faster chipsets like the Tegra and Snapdragon. I don't see any way around that unless we can get the source and compile it ourselves. Next is the kernel. Windows Mobile is designed in such a way that the kernel must fully support the device's hardware. Windows Mobile isn't designed like Windows for PC, where you can simply put it on and it does all the driver work. We need full drivers to run Windows Mobile 7, drivers I might add do not and will never exist unless we write them.
In addition, what about the bootloader? The bootloader will very likley need to be updated so it will boot Windows Mobile 7, but how to go about doing that? Porting a new version of Windows Mobile is a hell of a lot harder than porting Sense 2.5 or any other software. It's also going to be completely different (and more difficult) than porting Windows Mobile 6.5 to Windows Mobile 5 or 6 devices, since the kernel is totally different.
I think that the only way this device will ever get Windows Mobile 7 is if someone has a Windows Mobile 7 Rhodium test ROM for internal use by Microsoft, and it gets leaked here. Otherwise, we're probably out of luck.
It's not that I don't want Windows Mobile 7 on the Rhodium, since I really do, I'm just thinking realistically.
Just Got My HTC Desire (UNLOCKED)
and BTW loving every bit of it
was wondering that if in the future it would be possible to run Windows Phone 7 on HTC Desire??
or
[Poll] Whether anyone is interested to run windows phone 7 on Desire?
P.S. Just Learnt someone is working a port of andoid on the iphone (not )
Lol! That will take some effort to make.
It will be really good though, just depends on what future android releases are like.
Windows Phone can not be ported, cause it is closed source.
And why would you want that crap anyway?
I went with Desire cuz I didnt want to have a windows phone nor Symbian but had no money for an Iphone. lol. So thanks but no thanks.
lol the Desire is much better than the iPhone
You should be happy that you didn't have the money
That's like saying can iPhone OS be ported to the Desire.
Never gonna happen with a closed source OS.
shaundalglish said:
Windows Phone can not be ported, cause it is closed source.
And why would you want that crap anyway?
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you're calling it crap when it's not even out yet? 0.o
It might not be as good as android, but im sure it's not 'crap'
It's just my opinion, but yes, I call it crap.
i agree
I agree I had a windows phone everything was so complicated... windows stick to home pcs
Dualboot IMO
http://www.cnet.com.au/telstra-leak-shows-a-desire-to-range-htc-s-mozart-339304024.htm
looks just like htc desire but windows phone 7 .
maybe hardware specs r same as well
Android is open source, it can be configured to diffrent device configurations, windows phone isnt, as the most of the driver, sensors and hardware for the desire was written using the android open source project, they arnt compatible with windows phone full stop lol
If WP7 would ever be ported on Desire, I would probably just test it, to see what its all about. and then delete it...
It would be interesting to play with, but I doubt it would be possible
There's a project porting android to the iPhone, and it's proving very difficult even with Android being open source. So closed source, I don't think it would work..
Android is open source, it can be configured to diffrent device configurations, windows phone isnt, as the most of the driver, sensors and hardware for the desire was written using the android open source project, they arnt compatible with windows phone full stop lol
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If htc releases a phone with win phone 7 which hardware is equal to desire - might be a possibility.
But I can not imagine one dev wanting to do that
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If htc releases a phone with win phone 7 which hardware is equal to desire - might be a possibility.
But I can not imagine one dev wanting to do that
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i dont even think that would be possible, the sdk htc used to write the sensor and harware code isnt compatible with windows, on the other hand, android can be configured to run on hardware written to run on windows phone thats the problem lol
dexteral said:
http://www.cnet.com.au/telstra-leak-shows-a-desire-to-range-htc-s-mozart-339304024.htm
looks just like htc desire but windows phone 7 .
maybe hardware specs r same as well
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So umnmm.....did anyone actually READ the link?
Today's internet leak is brought to you by our friends at Adobe Photoshop and is apparently known as the HTC Mozart.
A leaked internal Telstra document is offering the first indication of when we might actually see a Windows Phone 7 device in stores and all but confirms that HTC will be one of the first manufacturers to launch a phone running Microsoft's overhauled OS.
We suggest you forget about the image, which is clearly just an HTC Desire with a WP7 home screen photoshopped onto the front of it. However, what is really interesting is the AU$49 per month price cap, Telstra's newest and lowest available Next G cap. Everyone who assumed that the first swell of WP7 phones would run at a premium cost (us included) were obviously mistaken.
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I would use it. The more I play with Windows Phone 7 the more I am sure it is going to be a serious player in the mobile world. I love the openess of Android, but I've been playing with several WP7 ui apps and I want more!
I would buy a WP7 phone as a secondary, but as of yet, I don't really like any of the hardware currently available with AT&T bands...
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WP7 has been ported to HTC HD2; maybe it was easier because WP7 is based on Windows CE 6, as winmo was.
See,the hardware of htc radar is so similar to desire hd,especially the CPU,they are totally same, as we all know htc radar is a mango device, so I've got a interesting question here :Is that possible for Desire hd get a mango? Sorry for my poor English ,wish you can understand me ,thank you~
Someone has to port it to the device.
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so..e...you mean there are possibilities?
You should've just bought the device which official runs the mango update then look for ports of android ROMs for the mango device which is more likely to happen compared to the other way around it which you mentioned on OP.
No
Never happened so far... possibility of it happening is very low, coz mango's proprietary, not open source like Android
but if is not open source, why it can be ported in the HTC HD2? and in the HD7 can be port the android??
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but if is not open source, why it can be ported in the HTC HD2? and in the HD7 can be port the android??
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#6 good question~!
renehd2 said:
but if is not open source, why it can be ported in the HTC HD2? and in the HD7 can be port the android??
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#6 good question~!
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No it isn't....it really isn't
The HD2 was originally designed to run Windows Phone OS, 6.0 i believe but correct me if im wrong.
It is in many ways similar to the DHD but they are NOT THE SAME DEVICE. It comes down to the source or WP7 being locked down, it is a MS piece of software, so you will be able to port it to compatible devices such as the HD2, but you would need access to the lowest level of source code in order to write for the DHD hardware (drivers, init etc blah)
This question has been asked so many time, just not about mango...Mods please close.
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No it isn't....it really isn't
The HD2 was originally designed to run Windows Phone OS, 6.0 i believe but correct me if im wrong.
It is in many ways similar to the DHD but they are NOT THE SAME DEVICE. It comes down to the source or WP7 being locked down, it is a MS piece of software, so you will be able to port it to compatible devices such as the HD2, but you would need access to the lowest level of source code in order to write for the DHD hardware (drivers, init etc blah)
This question has been asked so many time, just not about mango...Mods please close.
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But as far as i know windows mobile 6.5 is completely different from windows phone 7, and hd7 is a wp7 and can run android, so why not viceversa??
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But as far as i know windows mobile 6.5 is completely different from windows phone 7, and hd7 is a wp7 and can run android, so why not viceversa??
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The hd2 could run it due to a bootloader being made for it to run.
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Why would you want to run mango on your HTC anyways lol?
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renehd2 said:
But as far as i know windows mobile 6.5 is completely different from windows phone 7, and hd7 is a wp7 and can run android, so why not viceversa??
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I go back to my original point ITS STILL MICROSOFT CLOSED SOURCE
Who cares that the OS is different, Windows 95 is totally different from Windows 7 you try telling me that they are open source.
Yeesh, Why has this thread not been closed yet? We've had this question like a million times and we always trot out the same answer.